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Posted by: Portikins Feb 21 2007, 03:44 PM

After Glasgow, there's Samp next Sunday night. Flacchi, their best player is suspended for doping (cocaine).

Predictions? I'll go for 2-0.

Forza Milan!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 21 2007, 04:05 PM

Ronaldo must play next to Oli again. I think Gila lost all his sharpness that he had re-discovered before the winter brake and after that bad tackle on him in the Lazio match.

Although I don't want us to rely too much on Ronaldo since he won't be there to bail us out in the CL

Posted by: redbabies Feb 21 2007, 04:55 PM

I think Ronaldo should be used as much as possible in league matches. He is productive, he can score and assist, therefore Gila can rest sometimes and be more fresh in CH.L.
wow it's also at night - the time when Milan play better.
Prediction: 3-1 (Ronnie, Kaka, Pirlo-free kick)

Posted by: misha Feb 21 2007, 05:13 PM

Milan - Sampdoria

A re-born Milan will be trying to add three more vital points in their chase for a top four spot when they host an in-form Sampdoria in Week 25 on Sunday night. The Blucerchiati travel to Lombardy hoping to repeat their Week 6 display, when they unexpectedly stopped the Rossoneri 1-1.

In Week 24, Milan won 4-3 at Siena thanks to an injury-time goal by Massimo Ambrosini, while Sampdoria won 1-0 at Parma despite missing a penalty with Sergio Volpi. The Rossoneri are just two points behind Empoli, who are holding on to fourth place with 35. Doria with 30 points are aiming for a UEFA Cup position at the end of the season.

Milan visited Celtic in the Champions League on Tuesday and tactician Carlo Ancelotti is likely to make some changes to the starting XI. Former Messina goalkeeper Marco Storari should take the gloves after Ancelotti opted for Zeljko Kalac against Celtic. New-boy Massimo Oddo and Brazilian veteran Marcos Cafu are both right-back options, while Kakha Kaladze and Milan legend Paolo Maldini should play as central defenders.

French youngster Yoann Gourcuff should step in to replace playmaker Andrea Pirlo, who will be given a break by Ancelotti. After his winning goal against Siena, Ambrosini should be reconfirmed. Cristian Brocchi is suspended and Ancelotti may decide to leave Dutch attacking midfielder Clarence Seedorf on the bench give his knee problems.

Milan may have a ‘Made in Brazil’ attack with Kakà, Ronaldo – fresh from his brace at Siena – and Ricardo Oliveira up front.

Sampdoria’s Walter Novellino is satisfied with the team’s recent performances, but the injury list may concern the Coach. Winger Davide Franceschini will be out after getting a muscle injury against Parma. Uruguayan ace Ruben Olivera, veteran Gianluca Berti, towering defender Christian Terlizzi and tireless midfielder Gennaro Delvecchio will also be missing. Emiliano Bonazzoli and Francesco Flachi are not 100 per cent fit and may sit on the bench. Striker Fabio Bazzani should start with Doria’s top scorer Fabio Quagliarella.

Man on fire: Ronaldo (Milan) – The Brazilian ace was impressive against Siena, he scored twice and set up another for Ricardo Oliveira. The Milan No 99 has shown to both the fans and the pundits that he still has plenty to give. Il Fenomeno is back!

Last season: Milan 1-1 Sampdoria

Form guide: Milan (W D W W W) Sampdoria (D L L W W)

Milan (probable): Storari; Oddo, Kaladze, Maldini, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Gourcuff, Ambrosini; Kakà; Oliveira, Ronaldo

Sampdoria (probable): Castellazzi; Maggio, Falcone, Accardi, C.Zenoni; Quagliarella, Volpi, Palombo, Ziegler; Flachi, Bazzani

Football Italia

Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 21 2007, 06:47 PM

What I say is, let R99 and Oli play in Italy, score and get us through.

In CL, let Gila and Pippo play on 4-4-2 formation and thats it.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 22 2007, 12:43 AM

I think a lone striker is better, but maybe put Pippo in there witht he performance that Milan played against Celtic at Celtic Park, Pippo will deffinately score

But in this match, yeah R99 and Oliviera would be good

Posted by: dst Feb 22 2007, 01:12 AM

Let the fat boy work his magic and then practice the sad, CL-lone choice, 1 striker (Gila) when and if the game is secured!

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 22 2007, 01:55 AM

My line up:

-----------Kalac--------------
Oddo Bonera Maldini Janku
------------Pirlo--------------
-----Gattuso Gourcuff-------
-----------Kaka--------------
------Ronaldo Gilardino-----

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 22 2007, 07:04 AM

yeah nice.. i like that, even though i don't think Carlo will leave either Brocchi or Ambro out of his line-ups

and maybe Oli could come on for Gila near the 60th mark.

Posted by: dst Feb 22 2007, 10:45 AM

Brocchi is suspended anyway but I think Ambro is going to play.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 22 2007, 11:37 AM

ah yes, i forgot. then Ambro is starter!

Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 22 2007, 11:42 AM

I like too see that formation this weekend,Yoann should start efter that great perfomance he showed against Celtic.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 22 2007, 03:45 PM

Amen!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 22 2007, 04:04 PM

I would like to see Oli next to Ronaldo again, Gila seems to have lost all his sharpness again and doesn't look like scoring anytime soon

Posted by: armisse Feb 22 2007, 04:56 PM

where is pipo ? can he play sunday ?

Posted by: redbabies Feb 22 2007, 09:28 PM

i think he is not fit, still!

Posted by: ToNTZa Feb 23 2007, 12:04 PM

I agree cause they worked well together against Siena.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 23 2007, 04:36 PM

Recently we have had bad luck in facing sampdoria, but it seems like fate is favoring us nowadays

2-0 i say

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 23 2007, 10:55 PM

These last matches have made me realize Oli is not a player for Serie A. He's way too weak physically, and loses the ball every time he's being close-marked. His movements and class are something to admire, yes. But there's more than that that makes a player great. I think Oli fits in La Liga perfectly, that's where he should play and show everybody what he can really do. I don't think Serie A can be his home, it's too much for him. I know he's been improving a lot lately, but I highly doubt we'll see him with the Milan jersey for much longer. I wouldn't actually be surprised if we swapped him with Ronaldinho or Torres (+ cash) for next season. As for Gila, you can say whatever your hearts feels like saying, but I think he's a complete player, and in a couple of years, after he'll had gained the sufficient experience, he's going to be one hell of a striker. I personally wouldn't trade him with anybody in the world. I just love his chemistry with Kakà, it feels like they've been playing together since they were kids. Maybe you're angry at him for the goal occasions he wastes once in a while, but I think that's just part of the game. Gila is a team player, he plays for the team, he sacrifices his self for the team, unlike some needless dumbells like Messi, which all they want to do is show the world how great they are. He's also a great person, and that's another thing that counts a lot nowdays. This is my personal opinion, so feel free to contest me anytime.

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 23 2007, 11:01 PM

You have been officially contested by Max.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 23 2007, 11:04 PM

GREAT GREAT post. On both the points you made, both are spot on imo.

About Oli, I think he can improve though, I think he's just accumstomed too much to playing in Spain, but Brazilians normally adjust to their serroundings quite well, not matter where they play (unless it's the EPL) I personally think that even R10 would struggle in Serie A if we ever bought him. You could see him against Liverpool the other day, he was finding it hard to free himself because Liverpool where playing a pressing game and where not allowing him space and time on the ball, just like every team would do to him, week in, week out in the Seria A.

Kaka for example doesn't have a very strong physical build, apart from being tall he is light weight also, but he got used to playing in the Serie A because that's where he is playing in his developing stage, Oli and R10 have played in the La Liga and French league during this time, so it will take time to adjust.

I think Oli can make it. He should work on his physique more then anything else, so as not to get knocked off the ball quite easily

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 23 2007, 11:27 PM

@han maybe X-Off can get you his phone number.

Posted by: m1ke Feb 23 2007, 11:33 PM

And it looks like it's continuing...



Typical!

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 23 2007, 11:36 PM

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 23 2007, 11:43 PM

Aaaaaaargh!! Cr@p..just when Pirlo is finding his feet back from his outer space trip. Just what we need.

And Rino too? And no Ambro? And no Brocchi either. And Yoann's sick too. Picture Perfect. We have no midfield.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 24 2007, 01:23 AM

WOOOAHHHH.. DAMN!!

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 24 2007, 01:31 AM

Serie A Preview: Milan-Sampdoria

BACKGROUND

Things just continue to get worse and worse for Italian football—the Calciopoli scandal, the horrifying violence in Catania which resulted in the death of a police officer, and now the suspension of Sampdoria striker Francesco Flachi after he tested positive for cocaine. This is just the latest in a long line of doping and drug scandals in Italy, but is nonetheless cause for concern.

He has long been a player admired by supporters of clubs around Italy. His work rate is good, and he displays quality skill against even the loftiest of opponents. Now, however, his skill set will not be what is critiqued, but the choices he makes in his personal life.

The Italian Serie A has been the standard bearer, unfortunately so, in recent seasons for what is wrong with football in general. Mass tossing of flares onto the pitch has become a problem of late, but other issues have for quite some time stained one of the top leagues in all of Europe. The club-wide doping scandal of Juventus in the 1990’s comes to mind, and individual suspensions of big-name players such as Fernando Couto (who was Lazio captain at the time) also dishearten those who enjoy calcio. Not to be forgotten, or course, is the case of Milan striker Marco Borriello, who has also been suspended for banned substances.

This is something which must be dealt with by the ruling bodies, as it continues to hurt the Italian game.

CURRENT FORM

Milan (W W W, 33 points, 6th place in Serie A) The Rossoneri are playing better right now than they have all season. Without having lost since November, they are beginning to show the form which was expected of them this term.

Sampdoria (L W W, 30 points, 9th place in Serie A)

‘Doria are also playing well at the moment, but will be hurt by the loss of Francesco Flachi for an as yet undetermined amount of time. They are only three points shy of a spot for the UEFA Cup next season, and that must remain their goal toward the end of the season.

TEAM NEWS

Milan again have numerous players out of the lineup, but not all through injury as is usually the case. Following the scoreless draw in Champions League play on Tuesday against Celtic in Glasgow, Scotland, there was a bit of a power shortage, which cut off the hot water supply to the locker rooms. As a result, four of Milan’s first-team players are suffering from flu-like symptoms. They are Yoann Gourcuff, Andrea Pirlo, Massimo Ambrosini, and Gennaro Gattuso. All four of these players are midfielders, and this is a huge hit to Milan. As far as injuries go, Serginho and Alessandro Nesta remain out, with Cristian Brocchi suspended. Filippo Inzaghi and Clarence Seedorf appear to have recovered for this encounter.

Sampdoria are also facing the prospect of fielding a less than full strength team. Emiliano Bonazzoli is not quite fit, while Ruben Olivera, Christian Terlizzi, Gianluca Berti, Gennaro Delvecchio, and Davide Franceschini are out.

PLAYERS TO WATCH

Ronaldo (Milan) – After his brace last weekend against Siena, he will be expected to keep banging in the goals. The trio of Ronaldo, Oliveira and Kakà is beginning to really look like something special.

Fabio Quagliarella (Sampdoria) – He is the club’s leading scorer this season, and was even a rumored transfer target for Milan during January. He will partner well up front with Fabio Bazzani, and they will give the Milan defense a stern test.

POSSIBLE STARTING XI’s

Milan (4-3-1-2): Storari; Oddo, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kakà; Oliveira, Ronaldo

Sampdoria (4-4-2): Castellazzi; Zenoni, Falcone, Accardi, Bastrini; Maggio, Volpi, Palombo, Zeigler; Quagliarella, Bazzani

PREDICTION

Milan will struggle with the sickness of their midfield players, and as a result, the attacking onus will be left up to Kakà. He should be up to the task, but Sampdoria have some weapons of their own.

Milan 2-1 Sampdoria


http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=241467

Posted by: m1ke Feb 24 2007, 01:44 PM

Why does that goal preview say that Pirlo, Ambro and Gattuso will most likely miss the game, yet include them in the starting 11 anyway?

Posted by: dst Feb 24 2007, 03:50 PM

So... we have no midfield??

I mean... WE HAVE NO MIDFIELD!!!!! NOTHING... 5 players out!! Arghh!!!!!!!!

Let's say none of those 5 gets to play... Should we expect this??

Oddo-XX-XX-Grimi
Cafu--Seedorf ( also not a certainty ) -- Janku
-------Kaka--------
--2R99-----Gila----

I say we'll concede 5 goals... I hope we can go for 6!!

That 3 year old again!

Posted by: dst Feb 24 2007, 05:10 PM

http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=41020

He says Simic and Bonera are going to play in defence (I've been waiting for this and think it's gonna be good!). Ronaldo will certainly play and but he's not sure who will be his partner in attack. Seedorf and Dida are available but Kalac will play if Dida is not 100% fit. Rino and Yoann have recovered (thank Paolo), Pirlo and Ambro not fully.

...

Posted by: han2503 Feb 24 2007, 05:54 PM

MILAN SQUAD FOR SAMPDORIA
2/24/2007
KEEPERS: Dida, Kalac, Storari;
DEFENDERS: Bonera, Cafu, Costacurta, Favalli, Grimi, Jankulovski, Oddo, Simic; MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf;
STRIKERS: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Ricardo Oliveira, Ronaldo

My team for tomorrow

Kalac If Dida is not ready in goal.

Oddo--Bonera--Simic--Janku
---Rino--Seedorf--Gourcuff--
-------------Kaka--------------
------Ronaldo--Oliveira-------

Now this formation is assuming Pirlo and Ambro are not ready (damn cold showers)

But if they are then I would play Pirlo inplace of the recovering Seedorf, and still leave Yoann there, he was great against Celtic and he will be great tomorrow also

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 24 2007, 05:58 PM

I don't know... A cold takes a lot out of a person...

Posted by: ToNTZa Feb 24 2007, 06:00 PM

Amen to that.
Wish those guys will get warm showers lest of the season, cause we don't need any more sick people.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 24 2007, 06:21 PM

It was probably a really mild one since Carlo said that they are fine now.

Posted by: dst Feb 24 2007, 06:49 PM

@han: Gila instead of Oli... and Seedord WILL play if he's fit, no doubt, no Yoann.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 24 2007, 07:10 PM

Gila played agains Celtic and didn't look too sharp, especially his first touch which was way off the other night.

Yeah I guess Seedorf will play, but if Pirlo and Ambro are still not 100% after the cold then I would expect Seedorf to play in the middle and Yoan next to him

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 24 2007, 07:40 PM

That would be interesting to see...

Posted by: Darunia Feb 24 2007, 08:12 PM

I like the lineup, Pirlo should be rested since there is a wednesday game coming up too.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 24 2007, 10:01 PM

No PAOLO!!

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 24 2007, 10:45 PM

Yeah, what happened?

Posted by: han2503 Feb 24 2007, 11:11 PM

Pain in his knees again

Posted by: Bluesummers Feb 24 2007, 11:14 PM

nah the probable line up will be


Dida or kalac- oddo-simic-bonera-janku-gattuso-seedorf-pirlo-kaka-inzaghi-ronaldo


he will most likely not play gila or oli for the entire match.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 05:00 PM

Gazzetta's probable line up

Oddo--Bonera--Simic--Janku
----Rino---Pirlo---Seedorf----
------------Kaka---------------
-----------Oli---R9-------------

Posted by: Tennie Feb 25 2007, 07:41 PM

Official lineup:

MILAN-SAMPDORIA: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
25/02/2007
Milan (4-3-1-2): Dida; Oddo, Bonera, Simic, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf; Kakà; Ronaldo, Ricardo Oliveira.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 07:50 PM

I guess Pirlo didn't recover in time, and since the back 2 are untested next to eachother, it's smart to play Ambro in the middle

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 07:50 PM

why no Gila?? why are we persisting with oli because of the Brazilian connection?
And no pirlo just as he was finding some form again!!
Got a bad feeling about this game my friends!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 07:58 PM

Gila has been playing bad again ever since the Lazio game. On the contrary Oli seems to be finally settling in and picking form back up.

Him Kaka and Ronaldo where amazing with eachother last week. Gile shouldn't have even started against Celtic imo

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:02 PM

I think Pirlo is still recovering from the cold

Well we always struggle against Sampdoria so it's not just you that has a bad feeling about the game, last season they where the only team that held us to a draw at home

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 08:02 PM

i respect your opinion my friend and i hope your correct.
Coach Carlo has obviously something there to perhaps another Brazilian has helped Oli settle in and find some form

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:06 PM

And i respect yours, but Gila this season has been given a lot of chances and just as he was finally finding his best form again he got injured twice in a row, you could see that he lacked a lot of sharpness against Celtic. But the same cannot be said for Oli, out of him, Gila and Pippo, he has been given the least ammount of chances, and now that he seems to be finding hif feet Carlo will go for him.

Posted by: redbabies Feb 25 2007, 08:07 PM

not a bad line-up considering the injuries and form of other players.

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 08:09 PM

Unfortunately i didn't see the celtic game and yes your correct Gila has been given several chances but Oli hasn't inspired me this season so far, but after the Siena game perhaps he does deserve to keep his place after all he did score.
So i hope he and the others have a good game and we get 3 welcome points

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:11 PM

Let's hope so, this is an opportunity for us to climb another spot and be within touching distance of fourth spot, this is really a must win game, and not an easy one at that

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 25 2007, 08:13 PM

Oli is probably gonna have a good start and then fade away as time goes on like always...

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 08:14 PM

Now off to watch the game speak to you all later hopefully with 3 points and a great performance!!
FORZA MILAN

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 25 2007, 08:16 PM

BTW, great to see Dida guarding our goal.

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 08:17 PM

R99 is gonna score his first goal in San Siro (as Rossoneri) tonight.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 08:24 PM

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:25 PM

Let's hope so.

And let's also hope for the defence to keep it tight

Posted by: ToNTZa Feb 25 2007, 08:26 PM

No doubt.
And nice to see Dida back in action.

Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 25 2007, 08:27 PM

5-2 in Sicily with Inter

Lets Roll! Off to watch the game!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:29 PM

What did you expect from Catania, they are probably the worst defensive team in the leugue

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:29 PM

About to start

FORZA MILAN!!!!

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 08:33 PM

FORZA MILAN!!!! game under way!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:37 PM

Samp hit the post

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:41 PM

Oddo red

Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 25 2007, 08:41 PM

ODDOODODODOOODDO AND SiMIC!!!!!! YOU GUYS SUCK!!!! no wait.... that wasnt oddos fault, it was not his zone, oh yeah.. SIMIC YOU SUCK!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:41 PM

That was definately not a red!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:43 PM

Cafu on
Oli off

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 08:43 PM

ODDO NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:45 PM

Anyone think that should have been a red?

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 08:45 PM

It was yellow...obviously that was NO red card...
Cafu in Oli out...

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 08:45 PM

And when I thought we would have a confortable win...

Oli out. Cafu (nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooo) in.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 08:45 PM

It was under the merda league rules currently in the Serie A

Edit: Brocchi also sent off last week as well, I can see a pattern emerging

Posted by: ToNTZa Feb 25 2007, 08:45 PM

Nice jump from Bonazolli...
Oddo didn't even hit his legs...
2 reds in 2 games not good

Posted by: Minami Feb 25 2007, 08:46 PM

What was the reason for red????

Posted by: ToNTZa Feb 25 2007, 08:49 PM

Tackle from behind. But there was no contact so...
Nice freekick from Janku...

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 08:49 PM

Amazing. We just lost one of our best players for the trip to Palermo next week. Yey!

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 08:49 PM

an ugly foul on bonazzoli (?) awhos acting like he has been killed...

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 08:49 PM

sampdoria are diving all over the place and the referee isn't doing great

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:52 PM

If Oddo was red carded the samp player should have been the same for the tackle on ronaldo

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:52 PM

Kaka almost. Great shot

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 08:53 PM

f@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Cking red the ref is complete cr@p!

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 08:53 PM

hmm...foul on the fat one...not even a yellow card

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 08:54 PM

YOU FKKKKKKKKN M*************RRRRRRRRR!!!!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 08:55 PM

surprise surprise

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 08:55 PM

KAKAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 08:55 PM

our players are fired up FORZA MILAN!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 08:55 PM

What a save from Dida

Posted by: Mr Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 08:56 PM

hi guys quite new to this, just wondering where i can watch the match if i can on the internet?

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 08:57 PM

Great save by Dida! Good to see him back in the action.

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 08:58 PM

WTF IS SIMIC DOING LEAVING SAMP STRIKERS UNMARKED

we need Ministry of Defence that is Nesta

Dida truly back

FORZA MILAN!!!!

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 08:58 PM

www.myp2p.eu

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 08:59 PM

Try this link: http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4398

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 09:03 PM

Welcome !!

if you know how to use ppstreaming, you can watch them http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showforum=20

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 09:06 PM

R9 will get injured this game

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:06 PM

Bonera is leading the defensive line amazingly

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 09:07 PM

OH MY RONII!!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:07 PM

Samp are trying to kill Kaka and R9

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:08 PM

Kaka again great shot from a free-kick. Great save from Castelazzi

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:09 PM

Falcone RED!!!

FINALLYY!!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:09 PM

This ref is pure sh!t though

Posted by: Minami Feb 25 2007, 09:12 PM

You're totally right!!!!!

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 09:13 PM

actually Ruben Olivera

I agree with a red card finally though!

FORZA MILAN!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:13 PM

OMG Seedorf almost but offside!!!

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 09:13 PM

wan't Olivera?!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:14 PM

At first he showed the red to Falcone, then he changed his mind.

As I said he is pure sh!t.

Posted by: Darunia Feb 25 2007, 09:14 PM

what did Ruben Oliviera do?

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:14 PM

Clipped Kaka from behind

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:16 PM

WHAT IN THE F@CKING HELL IS THE REF DOING????!!!!!

Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 25 2007, 09:17 PM

What again?

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 25 2007, 09:19 PM

I'm not seeing this match, but from what I hear, it sounds like the ref wanted to put things on an even keel.

Gulp! Cafu against Palermo??!!! We should think of playing Brocchi as RB.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 09:20 PM

HALF TIME

Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 25 2007, 09:20 PM

What again?

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 09:20 PM

HT 0-0. No goals, lot of cards and a stupid ref.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:21 PM

I can already feel it that this ref will cost us the 3 points.

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 09:22 PM

Against Palermo Cafu will be enough IMO, they're playing like sh!t at the moment...

The ref is a joke, oh and does Samp want to kill every single Milan player?

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:24 PM

Ronaldo and Kaka have been hacked down on numerous times.

I knew that this match would be difficuilt, now with 10 men it has gotten twice as hard. That was clearly not a red for Oddo, he didn't even tough his legs. And why wasn't Simic marking his man, Oddo had to go for that challenge because Simic was sleeping

Posted by: Diavolo Feb 25 2007, 09:25 PM

Well one problem I can see is that Cafu will have to play 2 games in 4 days, because our game against Palermo is on Wednesday.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:27 PM

Cafu has looked great in this match. He has had a lot of time to rest I think he can handle it. If not, we play Brocchi as RB

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 09:29 PM

Gila for Ronaldo and Gourcuff for Ambrosini. If Carlo makes those moves we'll win the match easily. But we all know he won't. As for the match, I don't know how to describe it. Weird would be a proper word. I have a bad feeling about this, hopefully Kakà will prove me wrong. He's been the best on the field so far.

FORZA MILAN!

Posted by: milanistar Feb 25 2007, 09:29 PM

Actually I fear more Simic than the ref!!!

Anyway, even with 10 men la Samp. looks more dangerous than us
I hope Carlo takes Maxou off, cause playing with him and Gattuso is worst than Rino-Brocchi, put Yoann in at least we'll have some reativity cause we're going nowhere with that midfield!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:30 PM

Gourcuff definately now that Samp are also in 10 men, but R9 is better at playing in this position so he will link up with the midfield better. Gila will get marked out easily

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 09:31 PM

Carlo is so predictable *shakeshead*
thats one thing why we are doing so bad

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:31 PM

I thought we were pretty much all over Samp even with 10 men, their best chance came from something like 30 meters out when they hit the post.

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 25 2007, 09:32 PM

Oddo red card was deserved. He didn't make any contact with the ball and, although unintentionally, fouled Bonazzoli from behind in a 1 on 1 situation.

The ref IS an idiot though.

Ruben Oliviera's sneding off was unjust, unless I missed something or he cussed the ref...

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 09:33 PM

I haven't seen Ronaldo run for the entire match. He seems tired (God knows why) plus he's been tackled a lot. With Samp's tight defense you need movements. And Ronaldo sure isn't one that can move a lot. Gila proved he's in good form against Celtic, he was present in every of our actions and I'm pretty sure he would give us a better hand than Ronnie. Still, that's up to Carlo. I just hope we get the 3 points...

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:33 PM

How can you blame Carlo for this, we have been playing with 10 men for more then half an hour now.

Anyway, 2nd half just about to start

LET'S GO!! FORZA MILAN

Posted by: Darunia Feb 25 2007, 09:33 PM

Gila is not on the bench, so Inzaghi is the only other striker option.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:35 PM

I don't think it was a red, Simic was still there. it wasn't a last man challenge imo.

Olivera's red wasn't straight I think he was carded before, his second yellow was deserved for clipping Kaka from behind



Let's see. I think R9 can make more difference

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 25 2007, 09:35 PM

I agree.

We're doing great despite being one man down. Ronaldo is missing a partner in attack.

Seedorf needs to link up with Janku more often.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 09:35 PM

Olivera's sending was correct. It was his second yellow, as he got the first while entering the pitch without the referee's permission. You get booked if you do so while you're injured or changing your boots (which was Olivera's case) outside the field.

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 09:36 PM

I don't blame Carlo for the Redcard or whatever xD
It's just that he is predictable.
pippo will get 20 minutes with ronaldo subbed out.
lately he always makes late-subs.

maybe ronaldo is tired from adrianos party lol

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:37 PM

This game has a draw written all over it.

Samp with a corner now

@hanna, I don't think there's anything worng with Carlo's tactics. We''l see how he plays his cards later

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 09:38 PM

Take out Simic....one of his mistakes will cost us the match for sure...

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:39 PM

GREAT play. We almost got it, R9 couldn't get to the ball. Ambro with follow up but too high

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:41 PM

Kaka looking sharp

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 09:42 PM

Great run by Cafu he still has it....at least for one match....

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 09:42 PM

I want Pirlo + Gourcuff in

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:43 PM

That will kill us, we need only one of them to come on.

Pippo looks to be warming up

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:44 PM

R9 is really dropping deep

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 09:44 PM

pippo? what did I say...

pirlo and gourcuff have allegedly flu...

bring on the frenchkid.

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 09:45 PM

I don't agree - Pirlo will take the FKs we get from the edge of the area, and they will both link up well.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:47 PM

We need to mark better giving them a free header from a corner

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 09:48 PM

Well, Carletto has little options. Gila recently played REALLY bad, so Pippo is his only option for the attack...
I don#t think Pirlo will play. He needs to rest. Bringing him on now wouldn't help us...

Posted by: Warchant Feb 25 2007, 09:51 PM

we need a goal....

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:53 PM

Pirlo on

Seedorf off

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 09:54 PM

how about subbing Seedorf out and Gourcuff in?

//edit: okay Pirlo's also good, his play at Celtic was brilliant
I just fear the flue xDDD

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:54 PM

R9 needs some help in attack, I think Kaka should push up a bit more

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:57 PM

24 minutes to go, we REALLY need to find a goal

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 09:58 PM

Bonera yellow

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:00 PM

Ronaldo off

Pippo on

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:01 PM

FORZA MILAN!!!!!

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:04 PM

Pirlo doing well, could've been 2 penalties!

FORZA PIRLO!!!

FORZA MILAN!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:04 PM

This will be a draw. We can't seem to score or create any openings, we had 3 decent penalty shouts but nothing

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:09 PM

dissapointing to see Ronaldo off, but i think he's still struggling.. bad match for him

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 10:09 PM

That's what I think too...

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:10 PM

In these sorts of games I wish Sheva was here

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 10:11 PM

Cmon ragazzi! Just 1 feckin' goal.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:12 PM

i wish Van Basten was here

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:12 PM

another dive

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:12 PM

I don't think Sheva could have done anything.

We've been playing with ten men from the first 15 minutes and we really suffered because R9 was forced to play really deep and at times we seemed like we where playing without any strikers

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:13 PM

Doesn't look l;ike it's gonna happen friend.

The game has already been killed imo

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:14 PM

the game was killed by the ref

Pierluigi Collina's retirement was a great low point for the refereeing situation

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:15 PM

yep... and i'm not worried about today, next match is gonna be a disaster against Palermo away!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:15 PM

The only thing Samp are doing is punting the ball up the field

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:15 PM

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:16 PM

If we manage to stay with 11 men for the entire 90 minutes I think we'll be ok

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 10:16 PM

Usual... this season.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:17 PM

GOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:17 PM

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

Posted by: Warchant Feb 25 2007, 10:17 PM

YYYYYYEEEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:18 PM

AMBROSINI!!!!

We better hold on

PLEASE GOD HELP US

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:18 PM

AMBRO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: RED&BLACK Milan Feb 25 2007, 10:18 PM

Finally !!!!!!!!!!! 2 weeks in a row for AMBROSINI !!

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:18 PM

BLOND ANGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: armisse Feb 25 2007, 10:19 PM

come on every body ,


viva milan

viva ambro
man of late minutes

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:19 PM

ok there's still time for Samp to do a turn-over

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 10:19 PM

I knew it... I knew it.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:19 PM

That was not Ambro, Gourcuff aimed the ball at the Siena defender's @ss and it went in

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:20 PM

FT Milan 1 - 0 Samp

3 points

Porto I like it when you are so sure of things they usually all turn out to happen

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 10:20 PM

FT 3 points baby.

NEXT!

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 10:21 PM

AMBROOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again he saved our @sses!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Warchant Feb 25 2007, 10:21 PM

man...we really needed these 3 points!

inching closer and closer to the CL qualification!

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 25 2007, 10:21 PM

yeah well "next" ain't gonna be pretty!

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 10:22 PM

thank you ambro!!!
May we play better the next game!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:24 PM

The team that are next are playing like sh!t. As I said if the ref's let us stay with 10 men for the whole 90 I think we'll be fine.

Ronaldo was being forced to practically play in midfield, so the chances never really came, because there was no one in the box. And when he was starting to shift gears and accelerate with the ball he was being tackled just like Kaka

Plus the Sampdoria curse is finally broken, we haven't been able to win against those f@ckers since 05

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 10:24 PM

I know. But... today = 3 pts. That's what matters.

Anyway:

Posted by: m1ke Feb 25 2007, 10:25 PM

Ref was useless. Samp were very organised. I thought we were pretty poor - lacked the final ball. I'm very happy with the 3 points

Posted by: mchanna Feb 25 2007, 10:26 PM

still... I remember the games where **** teams looked like God playing against us...

Posted by: weeeow Feb 25 2007, 10:27 PM

IMO Pirlo was the difference. He provided some through balls and accurate passes and his determinism showed. Pirlo caused havoc for Samp's defence with Pippo chasing his lob through balls. Andrea shined, and Ambro's goal was worth its weight in gold.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:28 PM

There was no final ball because Ronaldo was practically playing in midfield, for example at one point he started a move from nearly the centre circle with a gret pass to Cafu who was on the right but when Cafu went to cross there was no one in the box because R9 was still coming up from midfield.

I think R9 did very well to sacrifice himself for the team, so to speak, he was helping out in defense also.

Kaka imo was brilliant and is finally looking like the guy from before the xmas break.

Shame that Oli had to go off in the first 10 minutes I really wanted to see what the brazilian tri ould do in attack today.

Posted by: milanistar Feb 25 2007, 10:28 PM

No comment!

I hate that Carlo and his pathetic, empty and boring Milan!!!!!!!
Bouhhhhhhhhhhh @sshole

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 10:29 PM

AMBROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I LOVE YOU! You saved our @ss once again. Just like against Lazio 3 years ago, just like PSV 2 years ago, you're the MAN! This was practically the most boring match we've assisted this season so far. Thank God the blonde angel was there once again. What a header, and what a pinpoint cross from Marek! FORZA MILAN!

Yeah, and put Costacurta instead?



Haha, nicely put.

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 25 2007, 10:32 PM

You're right. This is not the Palermo we faced in San Siro last year. I'm quite convinced that they won't even be able to secure the 4th place. Anyway it won't be an easy match, as this one also wasn't easy.
Kaká was playing really good, but I missed the awesome passes he provided against Celtic. Ronaldo didn't do very much, but he faced a defense that wanted to kill him, and he played alone upfront. Cafu was a little bit back to his old self, though I still would have prefered Oddo. As already said, the ref was/is a joke.
And in the end 3 points is everything that matters

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 10:32 PM

Hmmmm, where to start.
Bonera looked superb tonight and generally our midfield looked good.
Ronaldo looks short of match fitness and lacked work-rate and it really showed tonight because the rest of the team worked very hard. Cafu looked good and defended well when needed, Clarence had a poor game and his passing was a little off, as for the next game Palermo are in awful form so 3 points are very much available.
Pippo should get a start and play instead of Ronaldo as wednesday may be a bit to quick for him. So another step closer to 4th place

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 25 2007, 10:32 PM

I thought Gourcuff was the next Zidane. Looks more like he's the next Lampard.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:32 PM

Yeah but that was our low point of the season, we have been constantly improving. And players are finally getting back into for, mainly Pirlo who imo is the brain of the whole team and when he isn't functioning, Milan don't function


Yep exactly. Seedorf imo had a pretty good game also, didn't slow up the midfield, but wasn't sharp, Pirlo is getting back to his best and it really shows.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 10:32 PM

Haha, Julius Cesar wants to see his empire shine again. Be happy with the three points man, that's what really counts this season.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 10:33 PM

3 points were vital and we got them, but from what I heard we struggle to score yet again.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 10:35 PM

That's cause we were playing with only one striker, and that was Ronaldo. So go figure out...

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 10:36 PM

we did but when you have to sub a striker after 10 mins the odds are against you but we battled are and ambro was are savorier so bring on Palermo!!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 10:36 PM

I think you will get your wish in the summer when carlo leaves

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 10:38 PM

will probably after next season as he has a contract until 2008 and galliani has said he will be there until the end

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 10:38 PM

So only strikers score? Please get a grip!

Posted by: milanistar Feb 25 2007, 10:39 PM

Sure, it's the only good thing that came out from this day!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 10:39 PM

And you believe Galliani?

Posted by: milanistar Feb 25 2007, 10:40 PM

Sure, it's the only good thing that came out from this day!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 10:41 PM

Why thankyou


Yep exactly, Kaka and Ronaldo where getting manhandled out there, everytime they where about to accelerate with the ball to start an attack they would get hacked down.

The ref was the problem in this match imo, not Carlo's tactics and not the way the players played






We struggle becuase of the fact we where down to ten men, as I've previously said, R9 was forced to play really deep and at times we had no one in the box, we looked like Arsenal when they play Henry alone upfront.

Also Kaka and R9 where getting fouled everytime they had the ball.

Samp are a very organised side and we always find it hard against them, in fact we haven't been able to beat them for quite some time now.

As I said, the problem in this game was the ref, That was never a red for oddo, if we had stayed with 11 men for the entire match I'm pretty sure we would have scored earlier.

Finally a mention for the guy who is the future of our defence. Bonera Again what a class performance, he was practically a one man show dealing with Quagliarella and co. Simic wasn't doing enough to help him and imo oddo got sent off mostly becuase he was cought sleeping

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 10:49 PM

Before we all get carried away about playing in ten men, let us not forget that Samp also were playing in ten men for a very long time also...

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 10:49 PM

Agree with everything you say han except it was a red for oddo

Posted by: m1ke Feb 25 2007, 10:49 PM

He had a great game, and didn't deserve the yellow card.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 10:51 PM

You misunderstood me. What I meant was we were playing with only one striker, and that was Ronaldo. But seeing his weight, he sure isn't someone who can run all day like Gila or Pippo would do. He was there walking all the time. Sure, he helped a lot collecting balls from midfield and advancing forward, but his pace is still to improve. Ho he was just too slow. Like han mentioned in one post above, when Cafu was about to cross one moment, there was no one in the area. You didn't watch the match, but when Pippo entered the field, we began to play better because Samp's defenders understood there was no walking around anymore, and that Pippo is someone to mark straight if you don't wanna get caught by his sneaky intuition. And what's why everyone was marking Pippo on our goal, and completely forgot about Ambro, who scored. That's what I really meant.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 25 2007, 10:53 PM

I see, my apologies. I thought you were trying to make excuses.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 10:58 PM

It's alright, I forgive you.

Posted by: milanistar Feb 25 2007, 10:58 PM

Is this a joke!!! You think we played like sh!t because of the ref? Are serious or stone man? This is b/s!!!!!!!

Carlo is the main reason of this mess, he didn't play to win but not to lose!
Just the fact that he played with Rino and Maxou is enough to struggle, especially when you have only one playmaker (Seedorf/Pirlo)!
We had no creativity and no occasions, we were playing as if we were in Genoa not in Milan (At least they were playing with 2 strikers!) and we won because the god of football were with us tonight!

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 25 2007, 11:05 PM

But we still got the 3 points.

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 11:06 PM

another objective and considered post
we played with rino and ambro because pirlo,gourcoff and seedorf had all been ill brocchi was suspended, seedorf was the only 1 to be considered fit enough to start and did fade in the 2nd half. sure samp played with 2 strikers but they aren't the quality of ronaldo or pippo and to be fair didn't really bother us and i don't think we played like s**t to be honest and we won because we kept working hard and had a slice of luck but we've had some bad luck so all in all things evened them selves out

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 25 2007, 11:26 PM

I think that it's the first time ever that I agree with you.

Posted by: milanistar Feb 25 2007, 11:30 PM

Actually I wasn't talking about changing a midfielder with another midfielder at all!!!

Pippo/Gourcuff should have came in for Ambro/Gattuso at least to give us more strench up front!

If you think Quagliarella and Bonazzoli/Bazzani aren't quality to score against Bonera/Simic or they are not equal to the threat that R9/Pippo was against their defense, that's your problem! I think they did better!

Oh, and I agree we kept working very hard to keep the scoreless draw!



To be honest I'm just stupid and dont kwon a sh!t about football.
Actually I like to bother others and creat confusion, there is a word for that but I'm so dumb that I can't recall it

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 25 2007, 11:33 PM

wow milan has some character to win a game that late with 9 men... just amazing but oli got a red? man this guy is pissing me off? what did he do to get a red?

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2007, 11:35 PM

Silvio Berlusconi was at San Siro this evening to watch Milan conquer the 3 pts.

In the end:

"Ronaldo? Excellent match. 3 points that make us more confortable.
"I'm confident for the Champions League.
"Dida's future? Talk about the present...

(I'll post the same in Dida's thread)

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 11:36 PM

oddo got a red it was ruben oliveria for samp who was sent off

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 25 2007, 11:37 PM

oh hahahaha k my mistake.k well a win is a win is a win.

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 11:43 PM

Oh dear someone forgot there tablets again

Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2007, 11:51 PM

We where playing with 10 men for 80 minutes, Samp where playing with 10 for 45 minutes.

So yes it does make a difference

If that was red for Oddo then the last man tackle on Ronaldo by Falcone was also a red. In fact the falcone tackle was much worce then the one Oddo made, when it was clear that the Samp player dived because oddo never even touched him.




Man you really need to chill. This isn't the time to be moaning about how we got the win, just be happy that we got it.

When I say it's because of the ref it's because of the undeserved red and the fact that he kept making stupid calls. We didn't play like sh!t, we were all over Samp when we where a man down in the first half, the only chance they had was that 30 meter snap shot. We were going for the win with 10 down and we had much better chances then them.

We played with 10 men for 80 minutes of the match while Samp only played the second half with ten men, that will take it's toll on the team, both phisacly and mentally.

The tactics where spot on, you really wanted to see the fiasco of a defence we had against Siena? Bonera and Simic haven't played with eachother before, so Carlo put in the 2 defensive mids because he didn't want to put them under unneccesary pressure.

Samp where the team that where trying to hold on to the draw not us.

And you've also got to understand that playing with ten men for nearly the entire match is no joke and therefore the team has to be more careful about what it does. Carlo made the rught subs at the right time. R9 was getting really tired because of all the work he put in so he subbed him for the slippery Pippo, Seedorf faided away in the 2nd half so he put on Pirlo who was the one that made all the differenc in the end.

Just get off the teams back. This isn't the time to be crying and whining about the perfromanc, be happy about the 3 pts.

Posted by: mishie Feb 25 2007, 11:54 PM

bravo han that's a great post
guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the red card situation but that's ok

Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2007, 12:03 AM

Thanks

But what did you think about the challenge on Ronaldo?

Becuase imo if that wasn't a red then neither should be the one on Oddo. All I ask is of some consistancy from the ref.

Posted by: Diavolo Feb 26 2007, 12:22 AM

Well put.
About that tackle on Ronaldo - yes it was made from behind (as the player Falcone was sliding to the ball), but I saw in replay that he got the ball first and then hit Ronaldo whit his knees, all in all he was the one who got to the ball faster so this was a good decision from the ref not to book him.
As for Oddo - it was more a yellow for him but let's just say that the ref made a 50 - 50 decision for which we can't blaim him too much (Oddo did slightly touch the player and the player had a clear path to the goal - this by rules is a red card).
Second yellow for Olivera also a good decision as he clearly tackled Kaka.
In my opinion the ref in this three occasions didn't made any unforgiven mistakes (I watched replys for many times).
But let's wait and see what ''experts'' will comment in tommorow newspapers.

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 26 2007, 12:23 AM

Did I mention how much I love Bonera? His tackles kinda remind of Maldini...

Posted by: milanistar Feb 26 2007, 12:27 AM

It's despairing!



I'm quite calm actually, oh and b!tches moan I dont



Then you and mishie probably saw the same match and I saw another one!
In the match I saw, la samp had more then one occasion and dida made a great save on quasomething's bicycle kick, they also were at least 5 time more dangerous than Milan, oh and Milan played like sh!t and defended most of the time like they were leading or something!



Sienna game had nothing to do with the tactic it was the players that didn't want to play!

I can understand that when they were 11 players on the field but after that IMO it was pure incompetence to keep playing with 2 DM, oh I mean 3 sorry



Whatever!



Oh sure "I've got to understand", it seems to be the problem with me I relly dont understand
Give R9 a partner in the attack and you'll see who the tired one him or the defender!
Give him the occasion Pippo had when he left the ball behind him and you'll see!
Anyway, I think it's pointless since you seem to prefer waiting for the individual players to make the difference than make some godamn tactical changes, Mourinho this afternoon changed Makelele for Robben cause he was struggling, and you know what happened? Robben made an assist and Chelsea won!
Now tell me what Carlo did tonight to win the game, nothing he just waited for Kaka Pippo or Ambro to do something extraordinary, and thank God they did! Give me a break!



Crying yeah, I was commenting your post the one in where you said that it was the ref's fault and we played well, read my after match's post and then give it another try, pfffffffff!

Oh and please do me a favour and avoid those kind of comments "Just get off the teams back" in the future ok!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2007, 12:57 AM

He's been great lead the defensive line billiantly tonight


Then why does everyone seem to be agreeing with my post and only you aresn't. Ok so they had 2 good chances in the entire first half when they had a numerical advantage, big deal, Kaka had 2 great shots save, Jankulovski also has a great free kick saved and Ronaldo almost twice connected to crosses coming in but couldn't, and this was when we where with a man down.


Pirlo was not fit to start and neither was Yoann, Seedorf was the only playmaker available and he wasn't even 100% yet.

The Sienna game was sucha catastrophy in defence because we went all out in attack and where left vulnarable in defence. Playing 2 defensive mids while with 10 men and a patched up defence is not a big travisty, it's a smart move.
And in the end it was a defensive midfielder that got us the goal not a striker or another playmaker


Our goal didn't come from a piece of indidual brilliance, it came froma good team move, Pirlo (who was a sub btw) started the move by spotting Janku on a run and feeding him a long ball out to the flank and Janku crossed the ball and Ambro headed it in, I don't see how that's a piece of individual brilliance. In the end Sampdoria lost the game because they where the ones trying to sit on the draw and we kept trying to win the match.



I'm sorry but how old are you???

You really act like a small child especially when replying in this manner, and I never said we play bad because of the ref I said the ref nearly cost us the match, read my posts carefully before you reply please.

We won, be happy about it, end of story, I'm really done with this conversation with you because you really don't know how to discuss in an adult manner

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2007, 01:09 AM

I`ve just checked out the result...a great feeling to see us back in winning form at least..

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 01:37 AM

3 POINTS MY LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not a good game (story of 2006/2007 season) but 3 points!!

Simic-Bonera was worse than I expected but it was a million times better than Bonera on his own. Ermm... I mean Bonera with Kaladze!

This is what most people think about that kind of situations but it's wrong. The rule does not mention anything about any last man, it say a red card is been shown when a man in a clear goal position is brought down!!


a great low point for Giuve that is...


He-he!!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2007, 01:43 AM

Well, I`m a bit interested now...how was exactly Å imić`s play?

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 01:58 AM

Mediocre.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2007, 02:01 AM

Since we didn`t conceeded any...Å imić is pretty much all the time mediocre. It`s good to have someone like that on the bench..

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2007, 02:07 AM

Hey, has anyone a clip of that Ambro goal? I`d like to check it out...

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 02:18 AM

http://www.zshare.net/download/milan-v-sampdoria-zip.html

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2007, 02:23 AM

Thanx...That will keep me awake till the Oscar`s start..

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 02:27 AM

Good luck!

Posted by: milanistar Feb 26 2007, 03:57 AM

Cause 90% of MilanFan members lack football knowledge
What the f@ck are you talking about, do you call Yanku and Kakà freekicks occasions, I was talking about real goal opportunities, when either the GK makes a great save or the player lacks some luck/skills! And what did you say "R9 almost" that exactly what my young brother says when he sees the ball comes into the penalty area! Stupid!



Pointless!



Hopeless!



A smart move to keep the scoreless draw, yes.
Whatever!



I meant something inexpected, Kakà run, Pippo "lucky" goal or Ambro saving goal, but I think you're confusing something extraordinary and individual brilliance
Oh wait, now I think you're right cause that header from Ambro was an individual brilliance since the ball was a little behind him and he managed to put exactely where the keeper couldn't get it



Ok, I dont really know if I start to insult you right know or ignore your stupidness!
I think you're kind of senil, cause your forget what you say, hopefully you wrote it!



Let me see, from "the problem in this game was the ref" you ended to "I never said we play bad because of the ref I said the ref nearly cost us the match" amazing!
And I suppose that "I never said we play bad because of the ref" comes from this "I was commenting your post the one in where you said that it was the ref's fault" clearly you dont understand a sh!t!

All in all, be sure that this is the last replay you'll get from me, and since you're acting like I insulted you or something, here is my last 3 words for you in an adult manner of course F@CK YOU @SSHOLE

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 26 2007, 06:37 AM

You know you are a complete idiot when you call han an @sshole...

If I was a mod here, I would ban you from this wonderful community with all your horrible comments...

If I was a Milan player, I would have been discouraged by having a so called "fan" like you...

And last but not least, if I ever saw you in person, I'd beat the idiot out of you...

Posted by: milanistar Feb 26 2007, 10:54 AM

Indeed it could be great if we could meet and put an end to the question as men do jerk

Oh and you don’t have to be a mod, I’m off the forum for good!

Have fun!

Posted by: misha Feb 26 2007, 11:01 AM

@milanistar It's o.k to disagree. There is no reason to insult someone just because you have a different opinion about a game. In football there is always various opinions and we are here all supporting the same team.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2007, 04:38 PM

It's ok guys, the guy is calling me senile when he is the one acting like a child after every match that doesn't end with a goal fest and a clean sheet.

I'm not even going to reply to him, because I don't want to stoop to his level.

btw thanks for having my back Max I know we sometimes disagree on certain topics but we always discuss it in an adult and civilised manner not like 4 year old kids in a playground

Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2007, 04:42 PM

Ok, then I was wrong, but I still think that if that was a red for Oddo, then Falcone should have also seen red after he fouled Ronaldo when he had a CLEAR goalscoring opportunity

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 04:50 PM

IMO Oddo's was a clear red card while Falcone's was a clear tackle on the ball.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2007, 04:57 PM

I've watched the replay 10 times already, and I think it was more of foul on Ronaldo, Falcone might have intented to go for the ball but he still cought Ronaldo from behind. I think it was a foul.

Btw, that was a total dive by the Samp player when Oddo was given red.

Posted by: milanista1899 Feb 26 2007, 05:07 PM

It shouldn't have been a red for Oddo. Even if he didn't get the ball, I don't think it was a foul let alone a yellow or a red card offense. Falcone got the ball but also the player so I dunno if it's a foul or not. Anyway the ref was sh!t not even including them two decisions and it would've been an easier game had it been 11 vs. 11 (until Olivera was sent off) in which case it would've been even easier. We deserved the win no question. For me Bonera was man of the match (have we finally found a replacement for Baresi? ) Looking forward to playing Palermo, it won't be the same game as the last time we played them. Hopefully it'll be the other way around. FORZA MILAN!!!

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 26 2007, 05:17 PM

Pfff, you're acting like a real child here


I'm with mish on this. Couldn't have said it any better.

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 05:28 PM

Well OK, we just don't agree! But I suggest you find find a video with higher resolution than 12x12!

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 26 2007, 06:41 PM

I don't believe Bonazzoli dove or anything like that... He was contacted by Oddo and he lost his balance. But I don't think Oddo fouled him intentionally, but that doesn't make a difference.

Falcone's tackle on Ronaldo looked bad cause Ronaldo weighs 500 kilos... I mean everytime he goes down you think he is done for good... But when you watch the replay, you can clearly see that Falcone cleared the ball first... And also clipped Ronaldo who was sprinting from his right... It was a clean tackle... It just looked bad...

On the other hand, Bonera's yellow was a bad decision by the red... Bonera was excellent throughout the whole match.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2007, 06:48 PM

Hey!? What`s going up here? Calm down,...just calm down. You can`t just attack han like that!!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 26 2007, 07:03 PM

This takes having somebody's back to a whole new level. Everybody loves han!!!!!

Btw the threat I think was directed at Max. I find this funny, Max is in danger of physical harm, and we're bothered about han being called an 'anal cavity'.

Sorry Max, guess fat men don't inspire sympathy. You ARE living the R9 story.

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2007, 07:13 PM

This han, is called High Definition!!




We all love han!

* Everybody loves han my as s... I'm going to kill that b!tch! *

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 26 2007, 08:04 PM

http://myspace-668.vo.llnwd.net/00951/86/68/951978668_l.png

Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2007, 08:54 PM

Actually I was watching it on Milan channel so the resolution was fine.

Anyway let's just agree to disagree on this one, but I think we all agree that Bonera didn't deserve a yellow since his tackle was clean as a whistle and he clearly got the ball

Man I can't wait to see Bonera and Nesta develop a partnership with eachother, I think they will be an amazing duo.

And I'de be really surprised if Donadoni doesn't call him up for the next Azzurri matches, especially when you compare his performances to those of Cannavaro and the other usual defenders he calls up

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 26 2007, 10:26 PM

IMO Bonera > Barzagli

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 26 2007, 10:41 PM

Are you crazy Bonera is COMPLETE sh!t !!! now i'm going to insult you and make threats because we have different opinions ....

Posted by: mishie Feb 26 2007, 11:03 PM

then i'll ban you aswell!!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 01:27 AM

On the pitch, this season ... I think Bonera has something better than Barzagli ... I think it has to do with playing along side Maldini

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 01:35 AM

He was also very good in the games he played without him but yeah I guess the "Maldini-effect" is always a booster!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 01:41 AM

@Milanstar .. Everyone has his own opinion, u dont need to assert something on anyone. There is nothing to prove if ur right or wrong, both cases the game was over and Milan took the 3 points. We didnt play so well ?! Tell me, has Milan been playing well this season ?! Can u compare them to last season ?!

All I'm saying is, u don't have to take things personally, cuz at the end of the day it's an internet forum ... WHO THE F@CK cares ?!

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Milan played a very tactical game and Carlo was spot on in pulling out Oli for Cafu (btw, he had a BIG game!!) ... I think Milan did well by controlling the game. Sure, no one likes a football match without goals and waiting till the '89 for Ambro to score isn't my cup of tea. But in the end, it is worth it, cuz in the end, Ambro has been out for so loooong and comes back with such a form. He is IN FACT a very critical player for us, when all hope is lost, Ambrosini puts Milan forward again.

R99 was marked heavily .. Kaka was Kaka .. Bonera - Simic ?! Simic, I didnt see except twice in the whole match .. Cafu was gREAT .. and Dida as always #1

Congrats ppl ... We rarely get 3 points against Sampadoria and if we do, it would be very tough

Posted by: MizNelson Feb 27 2007, 01:47 AM

In only a few weeks' time, Max has gone from a cripple to Last Minute Ambro, the king of comebacks.

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 01:53 AM

I do!


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Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 02:19 AM

of course u do ...

(didnt mean any offense to anyone by it .. Just wanted to fit f@ck in there )

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 02:20 AM

There's always room for f@ck!

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2007, 02:32 AM

Ok ok... That's not exactly a very recent picture...

But I have lost about 8 kilos and I have just a little more to go to be in my ideal shape again.

Off to the gym right now actually...

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 02:52 AM

That's how you welcome our new friend, Ambro??

Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2007, 02:55 AM

Simic left-leg when injuried (Cisséd) > Kaladze.

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 03:01 AM

No no no... Simic with no legs at all >>> Kaladze at his very best!

He would also run faster and tackle better! Who needs legs?? Forza Simic!!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 12:17 PM

U guys .. I don't know why u dont appreciate Kakha .. He has been a very important player for Milan for some time now .. If he wasnt any good, Milan would have got rid of him a long time ago

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 02:47 PM

He's still here cause he's Berlusconi's favorite. That's not a big secret or anything.

I couldn't confute the argument that I am biased towards some certain players nevertheless I can still see beyond my inequity and weigh up their worth and give them kudos for what they offer to the team. Just like I do with Serginho. I get frustrated by the LB Serginho cause he can't defend (the truth is that he plays cause he's also a Silvio favorite and if it wasn't for Carletto's reluctance to adopt a winger system or something then he would be of much bigger use) but that does not mean I don't appreciate what he provides to the attack.

But Kaladze is another issue. When he first he came to the team and played at LB and LMF I used to like him. I always thought that he would evolve into something big, he'd be our unexpected revelation. But he never did. He's already 28 and he's just where je started from. No evolutiion, no revelation, no nothing. He's had some very good games with the Milan shirt. I've seen him perform better than I expected in some occasions but still not what I initially thought I'd see from him. He may look good next to Nesta or Maldini but to be honest... who doesn't?

The thing is, I may be bashing him all the time but that is just to emphasize the fact that he shouldn't be there, not as a starting XI player... he would be a very important sub, I'd like to see him help coming off the bench. The important thing is to understand that this is not my opinion. It's proved by the fact that we all look at Bonera like he's our savior or something. Bonera is a very good player but so are most Serie A center-backs, I don't remember anyone jumping around when we signed him. We've never seen Kaladze do what Bonera does but I would expect nothing less from a Milan player. And Kaladze is something less...

Posted by: milanista1899 Feb 27 2007, 04:26 PM

So basically you mean he's not a bad player just not a great one? If so that's fair. Be nice to him it's his birthday today!

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 04:55 PM

I'm being nice! Otherwise...

Basically I mean that he should be a sub!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 06:49 PM

But Kakha is a sub ... He steps in when either Maldini or Nesta r injured. I get what ur saying .. When he first came ('99 I think) .. he played at left back ... He was good, but not Ashley Cole. In anycase, I dont believe he'll play ahead of Nesta or Maldini if they r fit. But when he is on the field, he really puts his heart out for this shirt. He's strong physically, a good header, and is a good marker. His tackles arent as precise as Nesta or Maldini, but thats okay .. He's a sub

So .. please cut him some slack, he has won alot with Milan and he was an integral part of the winning team

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2007, 09:00 PM

Kakha is a good header?? R7 I think I know now who stole my cocaine...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2007, 09:08 PM

Exactly - in Kaladze and Å imić Milan has two great subs who together cover the C and the wing positions, so practicall every defensive option. They are great to have them around for that purpose..

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2007, 09:15 PM

Well, against Inter, he was, remember??

Also, scored some important goals (like that one against Lazio years ago..). He is mediocre in every segment..

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 09:31 PM

But he *scored* against the merda !!!




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