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Posted by: han2503 Apr 12 2017, 02:22 PM
Some key facts for this very important game
- This is the first time a Milan derby has ever been played at 12:30
- This could be the first game under the new ownership if everything goes according to schedule (which looks to be the case)
So all in all, it's an exciting time for Milan fans (or at least it should be). The enthusiasm has waned around this sale, considering all the delays and drama, but now that it looks like it's finally happening, I hope that the enthusiasm will come back, especially on this forum since it's dead quiet, even during match days
Winning here would also be huge for us since Atalanta face Roma later in the day
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 12 2017, 04:18 PM
We're screwed really. But oh well. I hope we get a creditable draw.
Posted by: Danny Apr 12 2017, 10:06 PM
Shows how far the Milan clubs have fallen that this gets the graveyard slot.
11:30 here in UK. Astonishing.
@Jack You know they just lost to Crotone while we managed 4-0. Optimism lad! At best, we both suck 
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 12 2017, 10:15 PM
11:30 here in UK. Astonishing.
@Jack You know they just lost to Crotone while we managed 4-0. Optimism lad! At best, we both suck
Think its more to do with having the game on at 6pm in China (12pm Italy). Guess that is part and parcel with promoting Milan in China. Otherwise there really isnt any serie A fixture this weekend as profilic as this one so...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2017, 03:19 PM
Yep 
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 13 2017, 11:20 PM
According to Mediaset, the game will have 862 million potential spectators around the globe, 566 million of which from Asia. It would be a record.
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/inter/serie-a-il-derby-cinese-vale-862-milioni-di-spettatori-160-_1148727-201702a.shtml
Posted by: han2503 Apr 14 2017, 08:53 AM
11:30 here in UK. Astonishing.
@Jack You know they just lost to Crotone while we managed 4-0. Optimism lad! At best, we both suck
It's all about marketing Danny. Both Inter and Milan now have interests in the far east, and as X-Off pointed out, this particular derby is anticipated to have the largest Serie A viewership in history, so we're about to be part of record breaking history.
So it's all good
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/inter/serie-a-il-derby-cinese-vale-862-milioni-di-spettatori-160-_1148727-201702a.shtml
Yep.
I think the marketing potential we're about to tap into will be limitless
Posted by: Danny Apr 14 2017, 02:48 PM
So it's all good
Yeah I forgot completely about the whole Chinese takeover angle tbh for both clubs. Makes total sense now.
And yes, this derby will be easily the biggest viewed ever simply because it's peak viewing for the biggest populated areas on earth.
We're talking an area with roughly 3B people in it.
It taps into a whole new market for Milan and we'll gain millions of new fans through this.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 14 2017, 03:43 PM
And yes, this derby will be easily the biggest viewed ever simply because it's peak viewing for the biggest populated areas on earth.
We're talking an area with roughly 3B people in it.
It taps into a whole new market for Milan and we'll gain millions of new fans through this.
And to add to this, going by what Fassone was talking about during the press conference, the Asian market is definitely one of the key points for the new business plan. It will be one of our biggest revenue streams along with the CL and a new stadium
Posted by: Danny Apr 14 2017, 08:33 PM
That's why we signed Honda.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 14 2017, 09:11 PM
One player isn't really going to make that much of an impact, sure he's currently our best shirt seller, but it's still just a dent in the grand scheme of things
I think the approach to getting into the Asian market and really exploiting it will be far more aggressive. Most likely we'll go there each summer in pre-season, I think once the Emerites deal ends a big Chinese company will definitely be our main sponsor, more opportunities for TV rights in the far east (especially if we have a heavy Chinese presence in our sponsorship list)
Posted by: Danny Apr 14 2017, 10:42 PM
Oh I was being a tad cynical - but as I explained in a post to Pippo when we signed Honda, it did open up a market of around 3B with him being one of the biggest sports stars in the Far East.
This is like that but times 100.
Think of all those Honda shirts sold in Japan, Indonesia, India (to an extent) and China and now Milan are one of the most high-profile clubs over there along with Inter and a dozen or so European clubs who tapped into that market a decade ago (Arsenal, Utd, Real, Bayern etc).
And that's BEFORE this takeover. This is like a massive amplifier.
Let's hope the future is as bright as it looks on paper. It would be good to have a Milan to be proud of again.
That said, look at Utd - they're in the same boat as us right now in terms of the table, but they HAVE spent the big money and got the Hollywood manager.
It will take a while and we should NOT expect a title challenge next season even if we suddenly sign the squad this summer to do it.
I know fine well it takes longer. Look at aforementioned Utd, City, Chelsea, PSG, Monaco - big shiny expensive takeovers and they spent BIG but didn't get overnight results. Rangers also signed SPL winning-quality players last summer yet languish a distant third 35 points behind Celtic.
So let us keep our hopes tempered.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 09:49 AM
This is like that but times 100.
Think of all those Honda shirts sold in Japan, Indonesia, India (to an extent) and China and now Milan are one of the most high-profile clubs over there along with Inter and a dozen or so European clubs who tapped into that market a decade ago (Arsenal, Utd, Real, Bayern etc).
And that's BEFORE this takeover. This is like a massive amplifier.
Let's hope the future is as bright as it looks on paper. It would be good to have a Milan to be proud of again.
That said, look at Utd - they're in the same boat as us right now in terms of the table, but they HAVE spent the big money and got the Hollywood manager.
It will take a while and we should NOT expect a title challenge next season even if we suddenly sign the squad this summer to do it.
I know fine well it takes longer. Look at aforementioned Utd, City, Chelsea, PSG, Monaco - big shiny expensive takeovers and they spent BIG but didn't get overnight results. Rangers also signed SPL winning-quality players last summer yet languish a distant third 35 points behind Celtic.
So let us keep our hopes tempered.
Ah, I thought you were serious because I do think we'll bring in one or two Chinese players for marketing purposes
As for United, I think their problem is mostly in selection, plus they have an awful defence that not even Mourinho can fix. So why they keep signing attackers when their defence is in that state is beyond me. Add to that their midfield beside Pogba is questionable at best, Herrera, Fellaini, sorry but that's not going to cut it, no matter how much you spend in other areas. So I think had they made better and smarter choices in the way they spent their money, they would definitely be competing now
As for City, Chelse, PSG, etc their situation is a bit different because they started from nothing. It wasn't just about the squad with them. PSG signed great players pretty much instantly and won their league within a year or 2. So if you're aggressive and are ready to shell out cold hard cash, the players will come. It's just a matter of making the right choices. For instance I think PSG went about their choices much better than Man City. Leonardo raided Serie A for the best players he could get and it worked out
As for Rangers, I think the fact that you were relegated is a major factor. Juve didn't come up from Serie B and instantly start winning the league either, it was a long process and it took them time, not to mention finding the perfect coach to bring out the best in them
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 10:06 AM
Btw, for the first time since as long as I can remember, we'll be wearing our white away kits today in the derby
Which I think is a good thing since last time we played them I was about to go cross-eyed due to the overly black styling in both kits
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2017, 10:25 AM
Well. I'd rather the world watch us in our prime kits, but yes - I get your point.
Lineups anyone?
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 11:27 AM
Lineups anyone?
Kucka--Sosa--Mati
Suso--Bacca-Deulofeu
Would have preferred Lacatelli instead of Mati as he puts in a good defensive shift
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 11:33 AM
Is the take over now official ?
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 11:35 AM
What a chance ...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 11:36 AM
Yes!
And so close!!
Deu took too long there
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 11:40 AM
Watching this in the morning makes it feel like an oddly tense summer friendly
Just so weird
Icardi close now
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 11:48 AM
Quite an interesting match actually
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 11:50 AM
Yep, both sides have a goal in them
Mostly due to them both making mistakes in defence, our passing out of defence has been worrying
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:02 PM
Mostly due to them both making mistakes in defence, our passing out of defence has been worrying
Delo really needs to pass more and quicker. Always goes for the dribble...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:08 PM
Man Deulofeu! Pass the ball FFS!!!
Literally trying to run it into the net
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 12:09 PM
Ouch! We concede.
And how was that a yellow, BTW? He fell on the ball.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:09 PM
FFS! 1-0
Too easy, DS letting him walk through him
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:10 PM
What a horrible defending ! Pathetic !!
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:11 PM
We easily could have scored at least twice...
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 12:13 PM
Almost let another in
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:13 PM
We are really giving it away now with those horrible passes.
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 12:17 PM
2-0
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:17 PM
Our defence....
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:18 PM
What a disgusting showing!
Totally listless in defence. DS has been a nightmare today. Does he want to leave this badly?
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 12:18 PM
Got up at 3:30 am to watch this, going back to bed ...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:20 PM
We're going to get absolutely burned on the counter now
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:21 PM
Totally listless in defence. DS has been a nightmare today. Does he want to leave this badly?
At least now our new owners know they have to invest big
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2017, 12:23 PM
Totally listless in defence. DS has been a nightmare today. Does he want to leave this badly?
Leave where? Cagliari and Crotone should be lining up after this newest performance. You know, Danny is right. The guy hasn't performed good for ages (especially consistently). I've been on his side for most of the years now, but I've had it. He's simply not cut for consistent good defending and adds up to nothing when attacking. Modern football has little use for such players.
Donnarumma with yet another let down game. Don't tell me he couldn't do anything with the conceded goals.
Midfield is terrible as well. Kucka needs to get out, Sosa preferably as well.
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:28 PM
All in all , we cant perform because we don't have the players.
I know I've been saying it for years but it's true. There is nothing on the field worth wearing a Milan shirt.
And to think it's the derby for crying out loud!!
Posted by: Danny Apr 15 2017, 12:29 PM
Donnarumma with yet another let down game. Don't tell me he couldn't do anything with the conceded goals.
Midfield is terrible as well. Kucka needs to get out, Sosa preferably as well.
You're not allowed to be critical of 'THE BEST GOALKEEPER IN THE WORLD' Pippo, didn't you know (!)
Our defence has been....absolutely horrific. MDS, Romagnoli and Gigi have simply let us down today. When Zapata is the best defender in the team you know you're in trouble.
Hopeless.
And we can't score for toffee either. No composure.
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:40 PM
I sit down for the second half and I see that crappy cross by Zapata ...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:42 PM
Fassone and co must be scratching their heads atm trying to think of where they're going to start fixing this mess
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2017, 12:46 PM
This could end up ugly.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:47 PM
Calabria also struggling a lot to contain Perisic
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:48 PM
Inter wants it more and actually can do more.
Almost 3-0 now... Wow
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:50 PM
Finally he takes off Kucka who has been awful
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 12:52 PM
Honestly sometimes I wonder why Bacca even bothers to come onto the pitch
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 12:55 PM
What a dive by Delo !!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2017, 01:10 PM
Bacca isn't the problem here though.
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 01:11 PM
My god Bacca...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:13 PM
He's part of it
He's become so slow, he was never a good dribbler but this is something else, he needs a lot of time to get the ball out from under his feet and it feels like we're a man down when he's playing because he can't even do simple hold-up play
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 15 2017, 01:15 PM
Goal!
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:15 PM
We're not even trying atm
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:16 PM
ROMAGNOLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 01:29 PM
Goaallllkklkl yeahhhhhhhhhhh 2-2 !!!!!
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 01:29 PM
2-2 !!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 15 2017, 01:29 PM
Goalll!
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:30 PM
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 01:30 PM
Thank you goal line technology !!!
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:31 PM
Now they know what it feels like!!
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:31 PM
FT!
Posted by: Nova Apr 15 2017, 01:31 PM
Inter punks trying to steal time . That's what you get !
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2017, 01:31 PM
Haha. Priceless.
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 01:35 PM
All in all, I think this was a good result for us, especially since we were down 2 for most of the game. Need to look at the schedule, but I think we have an easier time than some of the other teams competing for EL spots.
(Missed most of the game, but by the comments it sounds like I got spared a lot of grief.)
Posted by: Danny Apr 15 2017, 01:39 PM
For once let's just ignore the flaws, weaknesses, mistakes and c0ck ups in this match and enjoy a last second equaliser which absolutely killed Inter.
Happiest I've been after a Milan draw in a long time.
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 01:40 PM
Happiest I've been after a Milan draw in a long time.
+1
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 01:50 PM
Yep, I can see them complaining that added time was over but they wasted nearly two and a half minutes of the allotted added time
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 02:13 PM
(Missed most of the game, but by the comments it sounds like I got spared a lot of grief.)
Yep, we have the easier run in compared to Atalanta (who face Roma today), Inter and Lazio, so we need ton concentrate on that 4th spot which imo is in our grasp now
These are the fixtures left for the run in of the season
Happiest I've been after a Milan draw in a long time.
Agreed
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 02:15 PM
Oh and Lazio are currently losing to Genoa
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 15 2017, 02:30 PM
Damn straight it feels good! After what happened in the previous game.
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 03:00 PM
Apparently, the referee clearly stated that added time would start after the Inter sub, so the 91st minute. The corner kick was granted at the 96th. So no reason to complain.
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 03:06 PM
Banner shown by AC Milan fans at the game:
Roughly translates to: 'The flight of the Condor has really ended, finally you too are a "parametro zero"'. Priceless.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 03:48 PM
Roughly translates to: 'The flight of the Condor has really ended, finally you too are a "parametro zero"'. Priceless.
I sort of feel sorry for Galliani because I can imagine this is a tough time for him, but he did treat the fans like idiots at times so...
Montella: “I have a contract, we’ll meet in the coming days. I’m the Coach and I’m focused on the end of the season, in my head I know where the team can be improved, but those choices must be left to those who know more about the transfer market than me.
In his head he's probably screaming: MIDFIELD
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 04:00 PM
Damn, Lazio equalise in stoppages and Roma were held to the draw by Atalanta.
Technically it's still a great week of results since we drew in a difficult fixture and still didn't lose any ground on our rivals
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 15 2017, 04:05 PM
Would've been better if they both lost but I'll still take it.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 05:24 PM
Yep, we'd have gained a point in a week we all thought we could lose ground.
Still the fact that we kept our placing is a huge positive.
Inter play Fiorentina next week, so if we win and they drop points we could open up a bit of breathing room.
The next 2 matchdays before we face Roma will be crucial as Inter, Lazio and Atalanta have very difficult fixtures, so losing points in the next two games would be detrimental for us
Posted by: Danny Apr 15 2017, 07:31 PM
There was a LITTLE spot of lost opportunity here as we could have made major ground on Lazio and gone level with Ata, but it's still a decent weekend with the added bonus we got to break the hearts of Inter for good measure.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2017, 07:59 PM
Yeah, true, but I honestly wasn't expecting us to win today
We could have played much better in that first half though which made things tougher for us.
Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 15 2017, 11:00 PM
You feel sorry for Galliani? http://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/serie-a/roma/2017/04/14-24326393/maria_sensi_attacca_a_galliani_60_milioni_e_a_noi_quattro_lire.
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 16 2017, 12:42 AM
Nobody should feel sorry for Galliani.
Posted by: Danny Apr 16 2017, 12:21 PM
I feel sorry for Galliani
Posted by: han2503 Apr 16 2017, 02:11 PM
I retract my previous statement
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 16 2017, 08:37 PM
I gave this result time to sink in and I really can not but think of how the team pulled through with two of our center backs scoring. Suxh grinta.It all boils down to Montella, as he has proven throughout this season (injuries and the takeover dilemma) he has taken this squad and made a team out of it. He should be given the reigns to a new Milan, one built on the youth/italian foundation Silvio left behind.
I hope this result and the determination shown thought the season bears fruit at the end.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 17 2017, 12:45 PM
The Sensis are a bunch of egomaniacs, who wish to take credit for effort, results be damned. Screw them. They've been horrible since the old man died. And it gives us a clue as to what could have happened to Milan had the Berlusconis carried on post Silvio.
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