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Posted by: Tennie Jul 27 2010, 06:23 PM

Rest of the world stuff here!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 1 2010, 07:37 PM

The Henry-Angel partnership made it's MLS debut last night in a 2-2 draw.

Angel scored twice, both Henry assists. Know your place Thierry.

Posted by: Linkman Aug 6 2010, 04:16 AM

Internacional just lost 2-1 to Sao Paulo and made it to the Libertadores final on away goals.

Oh and Santos won the Brazilian Cup, with their stellar team, including up and coming superstars Neymar, Ganso, André, and Robinho.

Posted by: Fishdoll Aug 8 2010, 04:32 AM

I am an amused fish.

Watching the LA Galaxy-Real Madrid friendly. It's halftime and the score is LA 2 - 0 Real.

Comic defending at a goalmouth scramble for the first goal. For the second, Drenthe decided to do a Nigel De Jong impression inside the penalty box right before halftime. Donovan converted the penalty.

(The commentators - same idiots who did the pbp for the Milan game yesterday - have been fawning like you wouldn't believe over Real. They were insistent that 'it's just a friendly' and 'Drenthe didn't mean it', etc etc. Drenthe got a yellow but really...should've been a straight red).

EDIT: So more of the A team has come on for Real in the second half. Higuain equalized (in the 50th and just now)pretty easily. It's now the 61st and this sleepy fish is going to bed.

Posted by: Dracoris Aug 8 2010, 05:09 AM

Beautiful third goal from Madrid. They don't need VDV!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 29 2010, 03:44 PM

Why don't we open up a french league topic as well? The league get's more and more interesting as time goes by?

Posted by: Fishdoll Aug 29 2010, 03:49 PM

Go for it. smile.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 19 2010, 04:10 AM

So that's 9 games played for Celtic/Rangers, 9 wins. They should just play each other every week and have a 2 team mini league between them, it'd be more interesting that way.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 21 2010, 04:17 AM

I just don't get why there's 10 more teams.

I mean none of them have ever won anything.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 21 2010, 09:45 AM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 21 2010, 05:17 AM) *
I just don't get why there's 10 more teams.

I mean none of them have ever won anything.

Wouldn't go that far. Aberdeen was a pretty good team back then.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 21 2010, 07:55 PM

Hearts are fairly respectable, I recall them finishing 2nd and winning the Scottish FA Cup in recent years. But the domination of the 2 Glasgow sides is just ridiculous, nearly 100 league titles between them, crazy.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 21 2010, 08:06 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2010/09/why_the_argentine_rollercoaste.html

What a totally strange league system to have, relegation decided by average points over the past 6 years? The cynic in me says it's just a fail safe in case a top club has a horrible season.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2010, 07:16 PM

Hmm. The Argentine first division has really gone down the crapper =/.

Posted by: vahid Oct 24 2010, 03:41 PM

PSV Eindhoven 10 - 0Feyenoord Rotterdam

WHAT THE HELL?

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 24 2010, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (vahid @ Oct 24 2010, 04:41 PM) *
PSV Eindhoven 10 - 0Feyenoord Rotterdam

WHAT THE HELL?


HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!! blink.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 24 2010, 04:42 PM

What ever happened to Feyenoord, who not so long ago was a respectable club?

Posted by: CHU-LIP Oct 24 2010, 05:25 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 24 2010, 05:42 PM) *
What ever happened to Feyenoord, who not so long ago was a respectable club?

They are (sort of) broke. They have been pretty awful some time now.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 24 2010, 06:23 PM

I knew Feyenoord have been poor for a few years now, but 10 goals is just... too much!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 24 2010, 06:25 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 24 2010, 06:25 PM) *
They are (sort of) broke. They have been pretty awful some time now.

I see. I've looked at the line-up...gee, de Cler is the only player I know, he was once with Ajax. The others...totally unknown to me. What can all happen in just a few years.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Oct 24 2010, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 24 2010, 07:23 PM) *
I knew Feyenoord have been poor for a few years now, but 10 goals is just... too much!

Well.. they played w/10 players after the 1-0.. unsure.gif

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 24 2010, 07:25 PM) *
I see. I've looked at the line-up...gee, de Cler is the only player I know, he was once with Ajax. The others...totally unknown to me. What can all happen in just a few years.

And De Cler is pretty awful nowadays..

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 6 2010, 07:57 PM

Celtic beat Aberdeen 9-0 with 10 men, 2 players got hat-tricks. Aberdeen also had 10 men and this was their record defeat.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2010, 11:09 PM



"Wah, wah, we want to cause controversy" What a lovely bunch, they were at it last year as well.

Oh well, Rule Britannia, Northern Ireland is ours, boo hoo.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Nov 8 2010, 11:22 PM

Suddenly, choosing a team in the SPL became much, much easier:


Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 9 2010, 07:21 AM

I don't get it. Honestly. What does Rangers have to do with Afghanistan,Iraq and Ireland?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 9 2010, 11:35 AM

They don't, but Rangers fans don't disrespect those that fought and died for our country, a small section of Celtic fans do. It's called being a retard I think. Those signs wouldn't even be wrote in English if it weren't for those dying at war.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 9 2010, 11:53 AM

So the Celtic placards were directed against which team?

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 9 2010, 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 9 2010, 01:53 PM) *
So the Celtic placards were directed against which team?

Does it matter? It's stupid either way.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 9 2010, 02:17 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 9 2010, 10:53 AM) *
So the Celtic placards were directed against which team?

They weren't directed at a team, they were directed to insult those that've died fighting for Great Britain.

Celtic have come out and said they're banning anyone involved.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 9 2010, 02:48 PM

Hmm....weird!

Posted by: Locke Lamora Nov 9 2010, 05:02 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 9 2010, 11:53 AM) *
So the Celtic placards were directed against which team?



You do know it's the week leading up to Remembrance Day, right? The Rangers picture I posted shows a Rangers scarf with an embroidered poppy... not shocking to see this from Celtic though, they've been sucking up to just about every murderous thug there is over the last few years.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 10 2010, 07:59 AM

I didn't know that bit about Remembrance day. I know about the day...not really when the date is and all. Thanks. It makes sense now.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 17 2010, 02:18 AM

NY have released their all-time top scorer so they can try and get a fancy name instead. Err.. Ok.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 16 2010, 06:02 AM

JPA has gone to LA.

Angel. Beckham. Donovan. Awesome.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 4 2011, 03:11 PM

Samaras beat Rangers 2-0 at the weekend. Though I don't actually care, the club is far from the one I liked the past decade.

Posted by: Danny Jan 4 2011, 11:48 PM

I'd have contributed much more to this thread had I been, pardon the pun, on the ball. I will now reply to some mystified posts to clarify a few things.

Posted by: Danny Jan 4 2011, 11:49 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 8 2010, 10:09 PM) *


"Wah, wah, we want to cause controversy" What a lovely bunch, they were at it last year as well.

Oh well, Rule Britannia, Northern Ireland is ours, boo hoo.


It's a sect, an extreme sect of their support called the Green Brigade which of course has been granted its own entire section in the ground. So thick though that they couldn't even spell 'bloodstained' correctly.

Posted by: Danny Jan 4 2011, 11:57 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 9 2010, 06:21 AM) *
I don't get it. Honestly. What does Rangers have to do with Afghanistan,Iraq and Ireland?


Afghani and Iraq, nothing. There's a sort of pro Israeli thing because Celtic have some bizarre affinity with Palestine. I think the Rangers thing goes back to some Israeli players we've had in the past like Bonni Ginzburg and Avi Cohen. So Celtic naturally take up the political opposite and leap on the bandwagon.

As for Ireland, Rangers are traditionally protestant to Celtic's catholic. This originated from the Irish catholics creating Celtic in Glasgow during the time of the potato famine, and the protestants attaching themselves to Rangers to counterbalance. And since then political and sectarian divisions such as the conflict in northern Ireland where Celtic's republican arm wants Northern Ireland to be part of Ireland and not Britain.

So Celtic fans are considered republican and pro IRA, and totally anti British army - which is why their extreme arm slagged off Remembrance as it honours the soldiers from the British army who have lost their lives or been injured.

The whole thing is quite poisonous. I accept Rangers have a problem with bigotry in our support, but Celtic glorify terrorism and are quite vile in their behaviour. A minority of them interrupted a minute's silence to commemorate the deaths of 66 Rangers fans during the Ibrox disaster 40 years ago.

Hope this ramble made some sort of sense.

Posted by: Danny Jan 4 2011, 11:58 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 4 2011, 02:11 PM) *
Samaras beat Rangers 2-0 at the weekend. Though I don't actually care, the club is far from the one I liked the past decade.


It's actually the same tbh. It's just getting more press now. The ugly side of the Scottish game has been highlighted more in the past 10 years than it used to be.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jan 5 2011, 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 5 2011, 02:57 AM) *
Afghani and Iraq, nothing. There's a sort of pro Israeli thing because Celtic have some bizarre affinity with Palestine. I think the Rangers thing goes back to some Israeli players we've had in the past like Bonni Ginzburg and Avi Cohen. So Celtic naturally take up the political opposite and leap on the bandwagon.

Don't they (Celtic) have some Israeli player right now in their team?

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jan 5 2011, 06:20 AM

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 5 2011, 04:27 AM) *
Afghani and Iraq, nothing. There's a sort of pro Israeli thing because Celtic have some bizarre affinity with Palestine. I think the Rangers thing goes back to some Israeli players we've had in the past like Bonni Ginzburg and Avi Cohen. So Celtic naturally take up the political opposite and leap on the bandwagon.

As for Ireland, Rangers are traditionally protestant to Celtic's catholic. This originated from the Irish catholics creating Celtic in Glasgow during the time of the potato famine, and the protestants attaching themselves to Rangers to counterbalance. And since then political and sectarian divisions such as the conflict in northern Ireland where Celtic's republican arm wants Northern Ireland to be part of Ireland and not Britain.

So Celtic fans are considered republican and pro IRA, and totally anti British army - which is why their extreme arm slagged off Remembrance as it honours the soldiers from the British army who have lost their lives or been injured.

The whole thing is quite poisonous. I accept Rangers have a problem with bigotry in our support, but Celtic glorify terrorism and are quite vile in their behaviour. A minority of them interrupted a minute's silence to commemorate the deaths of 66 Rangers fans during the Ibrox disaster 40 years ago.

Hope this ramble made some sort of sense.


Thanks a million. Now watch me show off at the sports bar!! smoke.gif

Posted by: Danny Jan 5 2011, 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 5 2011, 12:07 AM) *
Don't they (Celtic) have some Israeli player right now in their team?


They've signed so many players in the past season I literally couldn't tell you who plays for them any more. A quick check on Wikipedia confirmed my suspicions about a guy called Kayal though - he's the Israeli you mentioned.

Yes, the bizarre politicial alliances aren't exactly held consistently. It's more a convenience thing - if this Kayal guy played for us he'd get booed.

Posted by: Danny Jan 5 2011, 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 5 2011, 05:20 AM) *
Thanks a million. Now watch me show off at the sports bar!! smoke.gif


Better take a printed copy tongue.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jan 5 2011, 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 5 2011, 03:35 PM) *
They've signed so many players in the past season I literally couldn't tell you who plays for them any more. A quick check on Wikipedia confirmed my suspicions about a guy called Kayal though - he's the Israeli you mentioned.

Yes, the bizarre politicial alliances aren't exactly held consistently. It's more a convenience thing - if this Kayal guy played for us he'd get booed.

Yeah, that's the guy. He played pretty good in the last game vs your team.

Posted by: Danny Jan 5 2011, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 5 2011, 04:04 PM) *
Yeah, that's the guy. He played pretty good in the last game vs your team.


We were hideous. The Eastbourne Zimmer Pub Select XI could have beaten us that day.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 7 2011, 05:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV8ozxliySQ&feature=player_embedded#!

Posted by: dst Jan 7 2011, 06:36 PM

ahaha! I had not seen that... oh the beauty of the Greek football leagues! I should be going to the circ... err... the stadium more often!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 27 2011, 12:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLLrZSaAvjk&feature=player_embedded

How much movement on the ball!?

Posted by: dst Feb 3 2011, 01:20 AM

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgv595_aek-pao-2-3-mitchel_sport... how is this... I mean... come on man... for ****'s sake... he should ask them to terminate his contract... this is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in football, it does not get more embarrassing!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 3 2011, 01:42 AM

Don't tell me this was Galinovic?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 4 2011, 10:05 PM

Why were they defending so deep as well? Crazy.

Posted by: dst Feb 24 2011, 06:01 PM

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh6k26_autoagression_sport#from=embed

you can't be serious! laugh.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 24 2011, 06:04 PM

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Mar 17 2011, 01:09 PM

What's that Kenneth Zohore like? Saw him come on against Chelsea last night, he's only just turned 17 and has amazing physical credentials for that age. Heard he had failed trials with Chelsea/Inter when he was younger though.

Just with all the stupid money thrown around for strikers these days is he one worth taking a gamble on?

Posted by: Danny Mar 30 2011, 04:47 PM

Rangers supposedly on the verge of finally being taken over by new ownership. It would wipe out the debt and give funds to the new manager Ally McCoist in the summer to bring in some badly needed quality.

Problem is I've heard it a 100 times before and nothing's ever transpired.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 2 2011, 05:39 PM

I don't think you do need a new owner. The only team you're competing with has an awful side too, so it's not like you are in deserpate need of money to challenge. Though in saying that, seems you well and truly ballsed it up recently, you were miles clear last I chekced.

Posted by: Danny Apr 2 2011, 10:33 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 2 2011, 05:39 PM) *
I don't think you do need a new owner. The only team you're competing with has an awful side too, so it's not like you are in deserpate need of money to challenge. Though in saying that, seems you well and truly ballsed it up recently, you were miles clear last I chekced.


We ballsed it up because we have a threadbare squad DESPERATE for investment - we're owned not by a man but by the bank, Lloyds TSB to be exact. We have debts around 30M and the taxman wants his bill paid.

Our majority shareholder David Murray won't put in any more money to the club, and that's why we need a new owner who will.

Today we could only name 5 substitutes and 3 of them were youth players. We lost 2-3 at home.

This club desperately needs a new owner.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 2 2011, 10:36 PM

Are you paying too much on wages? Failing attendances? It amazes me how a team who regularly makes the CL can be in that much debt when they never seem to spend big on players. blink.gif

Posted by: Danny Apr 2 2011, 11:53 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 2 2011, 10:36 PM) *
Are you paying too much on wages? Failing attendances? It amazes me how a team who regularly makes the CL can be in that much debt when they never seem to spend big on players. blink.gif


It's because we spent beyond our means in the past. **** Advocaat spent £72M in 1998/2000 and Walter Smith spent about £30M when he returned.

We spent money we simply didn't have and it meant borrowing from the bank.

We make the CL because we win the SPL which means either qualifying stages of the CL or group stage outright.

As for wages, no, highest paid players are no more than about £20K a week.

Basically we did what Real Madrid get away with doing - spending money they don't have - but their government subsidises and bails them out. We don't have that luxury so the bank wants its money back.

Posted by: Danny Apr 25 2011, 06:46 PM

After numerous parcel bombs and the generally worst off-pitch season of my lifetime, the SPL nears an end. Celtic have the advantage after a 0-0 draw at Ibrox. They have a game in hand and the league in their own control. They can only lose it now.

But what a horror season it's been outside football.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 25 2011, 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 25 2011, 06:46 PM) *
But what a horror season it's been outside football.

What's been so bad?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 26 2011, 05:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOTxkVDjyc

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Apr 26 2011, 12:38 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 25 2011, 06:46 PM) *
But what a horror season it's been outside football.

Neil Lennon is a class-a cu**. I mean, after all what's happened what he did at the end of the game walking around with his hands behind his ears.

Is he still mad because of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQiEdkD4CdE laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Danny Apr 26 2011, 02:43 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 25 2011, 07:54 PM) *
What's been so bad?


Hard to articulate but it's just been shambolic. Refereeing strikes, messy club takeovers, bigotry, sectarianism, death threats, parcel bombs... it's just been such a mess.

Posted by: Danny Apr 26 2011, 02:43 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Apr 26 2011, 12:38 PM) *
Neil Lennon is a class-a cu**. I mean, after all what's happened what he did at the end of the game walking around with his hands behind his ears.


Apparently it was 'just a bit of fun' and we all lack a sense of humour.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Apr 26 2011, 03:11 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 26 2011, 02:43 PM) *
Apparently it was 'just a bit of fun' and we all lack a sense of humour.

It's stupid behaviour, that just winds people up, no wonder people are sending him bombs.

Posted by: dst Apr 26 2011, 05:11 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 26 2011, 07:17 AM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOTxkVDjyc

are you kidding me? what the f___ was that guy doing? send him home for a couple of seasons, maybe he'll realize he's a total idiot!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 26 2011, 05:26 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 26 2011, 02:43 PM) *
sectarianism, death threats, parcel bombs

Well, they are "Irish"..

(this is a joke, I'm not suggesting all people for ROI are terrorists!)

QUOTE (dst @ Apr 26 2011, 05:11 PM) *
are you kidding me? what the f___ was that guy doing? send him home for a couple of seasons, maybe he'll realize he's a total idiot!

First time I saw it it didn't look a bad tackle because it looked like both feet were pretty much on the ground. But it really is bad, you can't jump in like that. Your whole body weight going into someone's leg like that is never going to end well.

Posted by: Danny May 15 2011, 05:31 PM

A wonderful double on a personal note. Milan won the Scudetto and today Rangers wrapped up the SPL. It's turned out a good season smile.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 15 2011, 06:53 PM

Ajax won the Dutch League today - first time in years. Seems like De Boer was a good pick after all.

Posted by: Jack Bauer May 15 2011, 09:27 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 15 2011, 08:53 PM) *
Ajax won the Dutch League today - first time in years. Seems like De Boer was a good pick after all.

First time since 2004 - jsut like us.

Posted by: Danny Jun 18 2011, 07:36 PM



Promises to be an eventful time at Rangers this summer.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2011, 07:56 PM

Does the new guy have money? I know you've struggled with a bit of debt recent years.

Posted by: Danny Jun 18 2011, 08:04 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2011, 07:56 PM) *
Does the new guy have money? I know you've struggled with a bit of debt recent years.


There are funds in place to sign players. We're not exactly being bankrolled by a Russian sugardaddy or owt, but we're much more stable now, and our debt with Lloyds TSB has been cleared.

Still need to be careful, but if the right players can be found, we'll pay hard cash.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 25 2011, 08:53 PM

So, what's happening in Greek football right now? I hear Olympiakos could face relegation?

Posted by: Kazdoodle Jun 25 2011, 09:17 PM

Heard that not only is it been a shock to see deportivo and monaco go down but apparently river plate in Argentina might get relegated too

more bout the greek league stuff

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13914118

Posted by: dst Jun 25 2011, 11:40 PM

my guess, the main culprit will get a sentence which he will buy out, a couple of players won't play for the Greek NT again and everything else will be covered up.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jun 26 2011, 09:03 PM

River Plate, one of the biggest South American clubs, relegated for the first time ever.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 26 2011, 09:13 PM

What a pity.

Posted by: acid911 Jun 26 2011, 09:17 PM

This season sure is the "Season of Unexpected Relegation". sad.gif All over the world, from Italy to Timbuktu.

Posted by: dst Jun 26 2011, 10:58 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 26 2011, 11:17 PM) *
This season sure is the "Season of Unexpected Relegation". sad.gif All over the world, from Italy to Timbuktu.

nah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malien_Premiere_Division did not suffer from this.

Posted by: acid911 Jun 27 2011, 06:10 AM

biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif Okay. But a whole bunch of teams (in other leagues) that I never expected to, did go down.

Posted by: Danny Jun 27 2011, 11:31 AM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jun 26 2011, 09:03 PM) *
River Plate, one of the biggest South American clubs, relegated for the first time ever.


Their match which sealed their fate had a riot or two and was effectively abandoned.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 28 2011, 02:24 AM

Hoping for Inter next season.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 28 2011, 08:26 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 28 2011, 03:24 AM) *
Hoping for Inter next season.

That would be great. A dream come true - Moratti in Serie B.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 28 2011, 08:34 PM

And then they would stop calling us BBilan.

Posted by: dst Jun 28 2011, 08:37 PM

I don't care, I just tell them how Maldini has as many CL titles as they have together with Juventus... biggrin.gif

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 29 2011, 04:42 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 27 2011, 09:24 PM) *
Hoping for Inter next season.

+1

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 28 2011, 03:26 PM) *
That would be great. A dream come true - Moratti in Serie B.

+!

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 28 2011, 03:34 PM) *
And then they would stop calling us BBilan.

BBilan ?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 29 2011, 06:26 AM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 29 2011, 04:42 AM) *
BBilan ?

Because we've been in Serie B twice.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 29 2011, 06:48 AM

Ohh.

How lame! (...that nickname)

Posted by: arivanjj Jun 30 2011, 03:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YzarzhJj4M


Ronaldinho in good form smile.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 30 2011, 05:05 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 30 2011, 04:14 PM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YzarzhJj4M


Ronaldinho in good form smile.gif


Strange, his fans were booing him until last week. wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 23 2011, 09:13 PM

So the SPL has started already, seems a very early start. Maybe they want some rest before Euro 2012 starts. laugh.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jul 23 2011, 10:34 PM

Schalke won the supercup after beating Dortmund on penalties.

Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 10:38 PM

A season to remember for Schalke.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 24 2011, 12:41 AM

There is a German thread.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jul 24 2011, 08:32 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 23 2011, 09:13 PM) *
So the SPL has started already, seems a very early start. Maybe they want some rest before Euro 2012 starts. laugh.gif

Yeah, I thought that. Still, at least its competitive football back on the TV pre-seasons just don't do it for me and the Copa America has been 20% entertainment, 80% disappointment.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 25 2011, 06:11 PM

So Danny, any idea what the hold up on the Cuellar deal is? Seems to be taking forever.

Posted by: Danny Jul 26 2011, 12:22 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 25 2011, 06:11 PM) *
So Danny, any idea what the hold up on the Cuellar deal is? Seems to be taking forever.


Word is our boy Cuellar isn't overly thrilled about the loss of wages, and is waiting for Villa to grant him a pay off to make up for it. Which they haven't committed to.

Other theories, less believable, are that he's waiting for other clubs to make a move - Espanyol have been mentioned.

tbh, it's taken so long, I've actually stopped caring a bit. We've got Goian now, we're trying to bring in a few other defenders.

As Ally McCoist put it, it's 'kicking along' but Cuellar is not an immediate priority. Given he's injured and not available till September anyway.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 26 2011, 08:41 PM

We've had a problem getting rid of a few players. That's the downside of MON. While he's a very good manager, he seems to put players on big wages and then we struggle to shift them bcause nobody else will pay it.

QUOTE
Argentinian league to change

The Argentinian Football Association are to implement a radical change to the country's domestic competition with the top two divisions combining to make a 38-team tournament from 2012-13.

The motion, put forward by AFA president Julio Humberto Grondona, has been passed by 15 of the 20 top-flight teams.

The new competition will see the teams split into two zones of 19. Traditional rivals like River Plate and Boca Juniors will be kept apart but would then face each other in 'inter-zone' matches.

The top five teams in each zone will advance to the Championship Stage, to define the league winners, while the other 28 will play to avoid relegation.

It means River, who suffered relegation for the first time in their illustrious history in the recently-completed Clausura season, will spend just one season in the second tier before the new format comes into play.

That's really sad. River go down so they completely change their entire league. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Danny Jul 27 2011, 12:53 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 26 2011, 08:41 PM) *
We've had a problem getting rid of a few players. That's the downside of MON. While he's a very good manager, he seems to put players on big wages and then we struggle to shift them bcause nobody else will pay it.


In England £40k is about normal for a good defender isn't it? We could only afford £25k at the absolute most.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 27 2011, 01:01 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 27 2011, 12:53 PM) *
In England £40k is about normal for a good defender isn't it? We could only afford £25k at the absolute most.

Depends how you look at it. At the time Ashley Young was our top earner on £50k a week. So there really shouldn't have been many players on £40k.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jul 28 2011, 04:05 PM

http://youtu.be/OJZJnr5E3MI

Nice.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 28 2011, 06:55 PM

Quite the goal.

Good to see Brazil still have low scoreing, defensive, games.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jul 28 2011, 07:10 PM

BTW Ronaldinho scored a hat-trick in this game.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jul 28 2011, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jul 28 2011, 07:10 PM) *
BTW Ronaldinho scored a hat-trick in thsi game.

Just as I was about to give Neymar credit laugh.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 2 2011, 08:25 AM

http://www.sportpost.com/video/view/Worst+dive++Peter+Wisgerhof+Ajax+v+FC+Twente

Posted by: CHU-LIP Aug 2 2011, 09:04 AM

Without clicking I assume it's Peter Wisgerhof. He's a great defender though. I've always rated him.

Posted by: Danny Aug 2 2011, 01:43 PM

laugh.gif liked it.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 2 2011, 03:22 PM

I don't think he did it on purpose. He was afraid the Ajax player would tackle him. It's a natural reaction. You can see he didn't fake an injury or refer to the referee anything in particular, but he went directly to the Ajax player.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 13 2011, 02:18 PM

Watching ICT-Rangers at the moment. I'm struggling to believe refereeing can be this bad. Brilliant tackle in the box, Rangers get a penalty and the player is sent off. No contact in the box, Rangers get a 2nd penalty.

And as I type Naismith goes through and pokes one wide. Poor player!

Posted by: Danny Aug 14 2011, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 13 2011, 02:18 PM) *
Watching ICT-Rangers at the moment. I'm struggling to believe refereeing can be this bad. Brilliant tackle in the box, Rangers get a penalty and the player is sent off. No contact in the box, Rangers get a 2nd penalty.


It wasn't a red, but it was a penalty. He didn't touch the ball. And sorry, but Goian was clipped from behind.
I find it interesting that you've ignored the 3 blatant handballs from Caley.

QUOTE
And as I type Naismith goes through and pokes one wide. Poor player!


Did you make this comment specifically to rile me? Imagine I said the same about Darren Bent. Oh yeah, I did, and you were annoyed as hell.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 14 2011, 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 14 2011, 01:45 PM) *
It wasn't a red, but it was a penalty. He didn't touch the ball. And sorry, but Goian was clipped from behind.
I find it interesting that you've ignored the 3 blatant handballs from Caley.

Sorry Danny, but you're way off on the first penalty. http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/inverness-rangers-14957201/ - Quite obviously the ball is taken and that's why the ball goes off towards the right. The 2nd penalty there was barely any contact at all. There were tonnes of handballs at either end, I'll give you that.


QUOTE
Did you make this comment specifically to rile me? Imagine I said the same about Darren Bent. Oh yeah, I did, and you were annoyed as hell.

I believe I mentioned before how bad he was and you agreed with me.

Posted by: Danny Aug 14 2011, 02:21 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 14 2011, 02:05 PM) *
Sorry Danny, but you're way off on the first penalty. http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/inverness-rangers-14957201/ - Quite obviously the ball is taken and that's why the ball goes off towards the right. The 2nd penalty there was barely any contact at all. There were tonnes of handballs at either end, I'll give you that.


I am going to politely disagree with everything you just said and agree on one thing - the refereeing was poor.

QUOTE
I believe I mentioned before how bad he was and you agreed with me.


I said he had a poor pre-season and had started the season poorly, following the previous season of being our POTY. He's now getting up to speed and looking much better.

You would have been fairer saying 'poor miss' rather than poor player.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 26 2011, 01:29 AM

So, all Scotish teams are out of european competitions and we are still in August. Pretty embarrassing.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 26 2011, 01:52 AM

They're in huge danger of dropping down quite a few places in the co-efficient rankings after this season.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 26 2011, 11:27 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 26 2011, 01:52 AM) *
They're in huge danger of dropping down quite a few places in the co-efficient rankings after this season.

Especially with the teams they went out too in all respect, at least for Rangers/Celtic anyway.

Posted by: Danny Aug 26 2011, 02:32 PM

Abysmal. Going backwards. We're miles behind similar sized countries.

It's ridiculous.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 26 2011, 02:58 PM

This is why Scotland are in big trouble.

This is there 07/08 co-efficient, that will be lost next season, and the total 5 year co-efficients. So basically Scotland are going to lose over half of their points for next season whilst alot of countries below them are only losing 2/3 points on average. They could literally drop 10 places. It won't change their European places, but it looks like they'll never get 2 CL spots back. Unless the league champions get through to the last 16 in the CL or one of the teams does the same in the UEFA Cup, they're pretty much going to earn no points every season.

Scotland - 10.250 - 19.516
Israel - 2.375 - 19.250
Czech - 5.125 - 19.100
Croatia - 3.666 - 18.874
Belarus - 1.833 - 17.708
Romania - 2.600 - 16.657
Poland - 1.666 - 16.166
Sweden - 5.400 - 15.700
Norway - 5.400 - 14.675
Slovakia - 2.166 - 14.624
Serbia - 2.625 - 14.250
Bulgaria - 2.750 - 14.250

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 26 2011, 03:20 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 26 2011, 02:32 PM) *
Abysmal. Going backwards. We're miles behind similar sized countries.

It's ridiculous.

Is McCoist under pressure now? I know he's a fan favourite and all but still. Being in the CL qualifiers and ending up not even reaching the 1st round of the EL is not good. Especially to the teams you lost out to (I'm not trying to p you off, but I think you'd agree with me that these are teams you should not be losing to).

Posted by: Danny Aug 26 2011, 04:17 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Aug 26 2011, 03:20 PM) *
Is McCoist under pressure now? I know he's a fan favourite and all but still. Being in the CL qualifiers and ending up not even reaching the 1st round of the EL is not good. Especially to the teams you lost out to (I'm not trying to p you off, but I think you'd agree with me that these are teams you should not be losing to).


Of course they're not, I already described Maribor as the bowels of European football. So what does that make us?

I don't know if Ally's under extra pressure now, because the squad he inherited was bloody poor and he seems to have been given very little money to buy new players. Add to that the players we REALLY wanted have mostly been missed out on, plus the fact the players we HAVE bought are by and large no better than what we already have.

You really do get what you pay for if you buy a £500k 28 year old Spanish winger from a relegated side.

Posted by: Danny Aug 26 2011, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 26 2011, 02:58 PM) *
This is why Scotland are in big trouble.

This is there 07/08 co-efficient, that will be lost next season, and the total 5 year co-efficients. So basically Scotland are going to lose over half of their points for next season whilst alot of countries below them are only losing 2/3 points on average. They could literally drop 10 places. It won't change their European places, but it looks like they'll never get 2 CL spots back. Unless the league champions get through to the last 16 in the CL or one of the teams does the same in the UEFA Cup, they're pretty much going to earn no points every season.

Scotland - 10.250 - 19.516
Israel - 2.375 - 19.250
Czech - 5.125 - 19.100
Croatia - 3.666 - 18.874
Belarus - 1.833 - 17.708
Romania - 2.600 - 16.657
Poland - 1.666 - 16.166
Sweden - 5.400 - 15.700
Norway - 5.400 - 14.675
Slovakia - 2.166 - 14.624
Serbia - 2.625 - 14.250
Bulgaria - 2.750 - 14.250


The easiest way of looking at it is that the champions of Scotland lost to the minnows that are Maribor. Sorry Maribor, you're rubbish. And yes, that makes us even worse. The second placed team, Celtic, got horsed by mediocrity from Switzerland. And Hearts lost by an embarrassing amount to their English equivalent Spurs.

Scotland is struggling to perform, and it's bloody depressing.

I'll be amazed if a Scottish team gets back into the CL at all now, given we've lost our automatic place and have to go through qualifiers now.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 27 2011, 07:52 PM

Eto'o scored his first goal in Russia: http://youtu.be/hYbdjC0JDuU

Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 29 2011, 07:20 PM

Ganso's goal vs São Paulo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U45LgHLEG2Y&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: Danny Aug 30 2011, 04:43 PM

Rangers in talks to sign some Greek striker who's barely younger than me.

What a completely shite window this has been.

So much for the new owner splashing the cash on a serious reinvestment in the squad.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2011, 05:35 PM

Rangers reject £6.5m from Leicester for Nikica Jelavic.

Posted by: Danny Aug 31 2011, 02:56 PM

He's in poor form but he is one of our prized assets and we'll only let him go for 'silly money'.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 2 2011, 09:04 PM

Anzhi Makhachkala narrowly missed out on signing Porto forward Hulk for an €87 million fee on transfer deadline day, Goal.com can reveal.

However, just two hours after agreeing on an €87m fee, Porto president Pinto da Costa asked Anzhi to raise their initial bid to €90m [£78.9m], a request that ultimately brought a premature end to the talks.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2885/europe/2011/09/02/2648033/anzhi-makhachkala-miss-out-on-762m-deadline-day-signing-of

He's good but not that good. Not a smart move there by a Porto president, if true.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 2 2011, 09:18 PM

Really, did somebody care to check FC Anzhi financial accounts? realmad.gif Where are they getting all this money to spend on purchasing players at over-inflated prices. I mean, they are leaving Manchester City in the dust with this. Hulk's not even worth a third that, really. Good player, not worth a dime more than €30 million.

Boy, I sure do hope this Goal.com story is fabricated. Insanely fabricated.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 2 2011, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 2 2011, 11:18 PM) *
Where are they getting all this money to spend on purchasing players at over-inflated prices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleyman_Kerimov

Posted by: acid911 Sep 2 2011, 09:28 PM

Dandy. smile.gif I hope he's not one of those Russians that made their wealth as black money.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 2 2011, 10:20 PM

No, he's a Dagestan business wonder rolleyes.gif

Posted by: acid911 Sep 2 2011, 10:27 PM

Oh, I figured him all wrong then. My bad! tongue.gif Most of these billionaires, they're really...

Posted by: Danny Oct 2 2011, 03:50 PM

Celtic lose to Hearts and now the gap between Rangers and them is 10 points. They have a game in hand but it's not looking good for the green men.

Posted by: Danny Oct 18 2011, 08:18 PM

Rangers withdraw all cooperation with the BBC.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 18 2011, 08:25 PM

Why is that?

Surely if they have any contracts with the BBC that will leave them in financial ruin?

Posted by: Danny Oct 18 2011, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 18 2011, 08:25 PM) *
Why is that?

Surely if they have any contracts with the BBC that will leave them in financial ruin?


The club believes the BBC is biased against them.

And no, the contract the BBC has is with the SPL I believe, not Rangers.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 18 2011, 08:59 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 18 2011, 08:28 PM) *
The club believes the BBC is biased against them.

And no, the contract the BBC has is with the SPL I believe, not Rangers.

Fair enough on both counts then.

What was actually said to believe bias? Or is it just the sum of a number of things?

Posted by: Danny Oct 19 2011, 12:18 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 18 2011, 08:59 PM) *
Fair enough on both counts then.

What was actually said to believe bias? Or is it just the sum of a number of things?


Well there's a documentary coming up which the club believes is a 'muckraking' exercise.

There was also an apology a while ago when the BBC made Ally McCoist look like he was laughing at sectarianism.

Personally it bothers me because it now means Radio Scotland and BBC Scotland won't cover Rangers games on radio or TV - and that isolates thousands of fans.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 22 2011, 11:03 PM

Only just came accross Seydou Doumbia this week after seeing him in the CL for CSKA. He looks an outstanding player and I've looked him up and his scoring record in both Switzerland and Russia is superb. Will be interesting to see how he does over the next few years as he's still only 23. Another year like this and I imagine he'll move to a big western/central European club.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 31 2011, 10:07 PM

So Ole Solskjaer of Man United fame took the job at Molde FK this season. It was their centenary year and they'd never won a title in their history. Ole goes and wins it at first attempt. That's pretty amazing.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 1 2011, 06:56 AM

Yes...read about it. Very impressive.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Nov 23 2011, 07:36 AM

Montreal to get either Adu, Anelka or
john Rooney in the expansion draft according to local press. I doubt Anelka would come but Adu i can see joining...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 6 2011, 07:02 PM

I watched Dundee United-Celtic at the weekend instead of the live early FA Cup game. I have to say I don't think the quality was that bad at all. Forest (I think that's his name?) looks a decent player, made some really nice passes and has a very good first touch.

Saw extended highlights of the Rangers game and there was 1 move in the 2nd half that was outstanding. Some very good passing on the edge of the box, good close control and first touch between Jelavic, Lafferty, Edu and someone else I believe.

Posted by: Danny Dec 7 2011, 02:34 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 6 2011, 06:02 PM) *
I watched Dundee United-Celtic at the weekend instead of the live early FA Cup game. I have to say I don't think the quality was that bad at all. Forest (I think that's his name?) looks a decent player, made some really nice passes and has a very good first touch.

Saw extended highlights of the Rangers game and there was 1 move in the 2nd half that was outstanding. Some very good passing on the edge of the box, good close control and first touch between Jelavic, Lafferty, Edu and someone else I believe.


Other sides are now in for Forest, yeah that's his name. Can't remember the exact move you describe in the second half, after a bright first half we faded horribly in the second.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 19 2011, 10:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgdzMDrngt8

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 19 2011, 11:00 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 19 2011, 10:55 PM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgdzMDrngt8


Holy Moly! laugh.gif

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Dec 20 2011, 12:00 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 6 2011, 01:02 PM) *
I watched Dundee United-Celtic at the weekend instead of the live early FA Cup game. I have to say I don't think the quality was that bad at all. Forest (I think that's his name?) looks a decent player, made some really nice passes and has a very good first touch.

Saw extended highlights of the Rangers game and there was 1 move in the 2nd half that was outstanding. Some very good passing on the edge of the box, good close control and first touch between Jelavic, Lafferty, Edu and someone else I believe.

forrest caused Udinese's back line some trouble in the EL tie, he was, along with the keeper, their best player.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 22 2011, 09:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vJJRc1CN1U

How stupid. Only problem is he didnt kick enough sense into the 'fan'.

Posted by: William405 Dec 22 2011, 10:12 PM

Agreed.

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 22 2011, 10:15 PM

Good decision by the AZ coach to abandon the game. I hate it when the referee tries to act like a wiseass.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 23 2011, 07:52 AM

Sorry, gotta disagree. It would be an improper message - responding to violence with even more violence and then getting away with it.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 23 2011, 07:59 AM

I'm all about deterent personally. The fan knew that if he attacked the keeper he was going to end up in trouble whether the keeper reacted or not. NOT punishing the keeper, means they are allowing (unpunished) self defense. If I am going to attack someone now, knowing they can fight back without worry about how they will be punished would make me think twice about doing it because I could end up getting a beating as a result. Whereas if he was going to be punished, he'd be an easy target as he might not want to fight back and face punishment himself.

Disagree with the red card, but I agree with how they've handled it in not charging the keeper.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Dec 23 2011, 08:32 AM

Why did he get sent-off?! This has nothing to do with football, he was defending himself, the 2nd kick was a bit unnecessary but this is above football.

I guess everyone's forgot about the Seles incident.

Posted by: William405 Dec 23 2011, 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 23 2011, 08:52 AM) *
Sorry, gotta disagree. It would be an improper message - responding to violence with even more violence and then getting away with it.


So,if someone hits you,you just don't react to him?

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 23 2011, 03:03 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 23 2011, 12:00 PM) *
So,if someone hits you,you just don't react to him?


Exactly. Unlike precedent cases, the fan went straight to the goalie with the intention of kicking him. It's only natural he'd react that way, though I agree with Ash that the second kick was unnecessary.

Anyway, the Dutch FA has discarded the red card. And Ajax has banned the fan from the stadium for life. Goalie wins!

Posted by: han2503 Dec 23 2011, 04:12 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 22 2011, 10:15 PM) *
Good decision by the AZ coach to abandon the game. I hate it when the referee tries to act like a wiseass.

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Dec 23 2011, 08:32 AM) *
Why did he get sent-off?! This has nothing to do with football, he was defending himself, the 2nd kick was a bit unnecessary but this is above football.

I guess everyone's forgot about the Seles incident.

If he was defending himself he would have kicked him to the ground and be done with it. The fact that he kept on kicking him after the man went to the ground, and you can really see that the keeper wanted to get him real good, than the red is justified imo.

Push him to the ground in self defence but let the stewards handle the rest, I've seen players do this countless times when an invader goes directly for them. Going for multiple kicks after the guy was already subdued and on the ground was pointless

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 23 2011, 05:59 PM

Agreed han.

Posted by: William405 Dec 23 2011, 11:43 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 23 2011, 05:12 PM) *
If he was defending himself he would have kicked him to the ground and be done with it. The fact that he kept on kicking him after the man went to the ground, and you can really see that the keeper wanted to get him real good, than the red is justified imo.

Push him to the ground in self defence but let the stewards handle the rest, I've seen players do this countless times when an invader goes directly for them. Going for multiple kicks after the guy was already subdued and on the ground was pointless


Come on,stop being unrealistic.Everyone gets angry,you can't expect everyone to react the way you would....

Posted by: han2503 Dec 24 2011, 09:57 AM

QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 23 2011, 11:43 PM) *
Come on,stop being unrealistic.Everyone gets angry,you can't expect everyone to react the way you would....

I'm not saying that I would react differently, but I wouldn't go crying and stomping my foot if I got a red card for it. That is what I feel was justified. The fact that he lost it and started kicking him while he was down on the floor is why I feel that the ref was justified in showing the card. I'm not judging him because he did that, but the reaction towards the ref sending him off is what I'm judging. If he didn't want to suffer any consequences than he shouldn't have done that, simple imo.

You can't expect that you'll get off free for doing something like that simply because you weren't the instigator

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 24 2011, 10:49 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 24 2011, 09:57 AM) *
I'm not saying that I would react differently, but I wouldn't go crying and stomping my foot if I got a red card for it. That is what I feel was justified. The fact that he lost it and started kicking him while he was down on the floor is why I feel that the ref was justified in showing the card. I'm not judging him because he did that, but the reaction towards the ref sending him off is what I'm judging. If he didn't want to suffer any consequences than he shouldn't have done that, simple imo.

You can't expect that you'll get off free for doing something like that simply because you weren't the instigator


The FA could have punished him, his own club could have too. But the ref had absolutely no right in showing him the red card.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 24 2011, 10:58 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 24 2011, 10:49 AM) *
The FA could have punished him, his own club could have too. But the ref had absolutely no right in showing him the red card.

He was on the pitch during a game, I would think that the ref had every right to do so. And it really did not look like the club had any problem with him kicking the sh!t out of the guy

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 24 2011, 11:02 AM

Does it say in the regulation that the ref can ban a player for reasons not related to the game?

Posted by: William405 Dec 24 2011, 11:58 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 24 2011, 10:57 AM) *
I'm not saying that I would react differently, but I wouldn't go crying and stomping my foot if I got a red card for it. That is what I feel was justified. The fact that he lost it and started kicking him while he was down on the floor is why I feel that the ref was justified in showing the card. I'm not judging him because he did that, but the reaction towards the ref sending him off is what I'm judging. If he didn't want to suffer any consequences than he shouldn't have done that, simple imo.

You can't expect that you'll get off free for doing something like that simply because you weren't the instigator


To be fair I didn't see the reaction of the goalkeeper.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 24 2011, 12:07 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 24 2011, 11:02 AM) *
Does it say in the regulation that the ref can ban a player for reasons not related to the game?

He was still on the pitch during a game, and behaved like a total idiot. Imo what the ref did was just.

QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 24 2011, 11:58 AM) *
To be fair I didn't see the reaction of the goalkeeper.

He practically tried to attack the ref, and only didn't manage it because he was held back by others.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 24 2011, 08:46 PM

Well, the red card has been taken away and the goalie has not been punishied by the police. The Dutch are 100% right in their final decisions because the goalie did nothing wrong. Fortunately law appreciates that we are human and have emotion. If you're talking about a robot han, I agree completely. But I think being attacked like that, the reaction of the goalie was both understandable and expected.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 24 2011, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 24 2011, 08:46 PM) *
Well, the red card has been taken away and the goalie has not been punishied by the police. The Dutch are 100% right in their final decisions because the goalie did nothing wrong. Fortunately law appreciates that we are human and have emotion. If you're talking about a robot han, I agree completely. But I think being attacked like that, the reaction of the goalie was both understandable and expected.

Like I said, I never said that he shouldn't have hit out at the guy, but don't lose your sh!t when you get punished for it. Imo, the way he reacted was excessive. Giving him the initial kick to defend yourself is all well and good, but the 2nd 3rd and 4th kicks were nothing short of excessive violence. But again, we're human so reacting in such a way is not something that can be ruled out, but if you're punished for such behaviour, than accept it.

I don't think it was right for the FA not to punish him, maybe not for the red card directly, but that kind of behaviour shouldn't be acceptable. How many times have we seen pitch invadors going straight for a player? Usually they just get him subdued and let the correct people take care of it. Yes the invader was also guilty and should be punished, but imo excusing the player for those actions because he didn't start it is also un-just

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 24 2011, 11:08 PM

What do you want him to do? Hold him down? What if the guy has a knife? He did what he thought was necessary to keep the guy on the floor. If you stop kicking, he gets back up and attacks you again.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 26 2011, 01:30 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 24 2011, 11:08 PM) *
What do you want him to do? Hold him down? What if the guy has a knife? He did what he thought was necessary to keep the guy on the floor. If you stop kicking, he gets back up and attacks you again.

Oh come on! If he had a knife he probably would have gotten a good piece of the goalie on impact. He'd already had him good with the first kick, as the guy was on the floor while the goalie wasn't. I really don't see any justifcations for it. Heis reaction was only human as you say but not being punished for it is a kop out from the FA who didn't want to deal with any more trouble than necassary for the club. Removing the red card was probably alright, but upon revieweing the video evidence of what happened he at least should have been fined

So 8 games for Suarez is barely enough for saying "negro", while this goalie kicking the sh!t out of someone is more than ok because it's only human to react in such a manner. But Suarez has to make sure to follow the English ways and not say such words, even if in his own culture there is nothing wrong with it.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 27 2011, 12:49 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 26 2011, 12:30 PM) *
So 8 games for Suarez is barely enough for saying "negro", while this goalie kicking the sh!t out of someone is more than ok because it's only human to react in such a manner. But Suarez has to make sure to follow the English ways and not say such words, even if in his own culture there is nothing wrong with it.

I can only assume the following 2 things: Self defense is not a crime in Holland. Racism is a crime in England. Anyway I'm not getting into the Suarez thing again!

Big game in Scotland tomorrow night. 1 point seperates Rangers and Celtic after 20 games and they play at Celtic.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 27 2011, 01:05 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 27 2011, 12:49 PM) *
I can only assume the following 2 things: Self defense is not a crime in Holland. Racism is a crime in England. Anyway I'm not getting into the Suarez thing again!

Big game in Scotland tomorrow night. 1 point seperates Rangers and Celtic after 20 games and they play at Celtic.

I'm sorry but I don't think those extra kicks had anything to do with self defense.

Posted by: Danny Dec 27 2011, 03:27 PM

Old Firm (that's Rangers V Celtic to the lesser informed) tomorrow.

Celtic aren't exactly on fire, but Rangers have been really struggling recently. It's at Celtic Park so I'll take a draw before the match even starts.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Dec 28 2011, 11:15 PM

Celtic won 1-0.

From minus 13 to plus 2 biggrin.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 29 2011, 12:45 AM

That's pretty awful. Still think Rangers will take the title personally.

Posted by: Danny Dec 29 2011, 01:52 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 28 2011, 11:45 PM) *
That's pretty awful. Still think Rangers will take the title personally.


Can't see it but hope you're right.

Posted by: Danny Dec 30 2011, 12:47 PM

Ancelotti to be unveiled as new PSG manager.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Dec 30 2011, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 30 2011, 02:47 PM) *
Ancelotti to be unveiled as new PSG manager.

Official. We'll meet him in 5 days (a friendly in Dubai).

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 30 2011, 08:26 PM

Happy for Carletto. king.gif

Posted by: William405 Dec 30 2011, 09:13 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 30 2011, 09:26 PM) *
Happy for Carletto. king.gif


Same biggrin.gif

PSG has a good future for sure.A great coach,with some quality players...and more to be bought.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 30 2011, 09:27 PM

Yep, it's a nice little Milanesque gathering there.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 31 2011, 11:19 AM

QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 30 2011, 09:13 PM) *
Same biggrin.gif

PSG has a good future for sure.A great coach,with some quality players...and more to be bought.

I don't see what future they can really have, they'll just take over from Lyon in winning consecutive titles and picking up all the good players in the league

Posted by: William405 Dec 31 2011, 12:24 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 31 2011, 12:19 PM) *
I don't see what future they can really have, they'll just take over from Lyon in winning consecutive titles and picking up all the good players in the league


But they have a proven CL coach biggrin.gif.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 31 2011, 12:30 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 31 2011, 12:24 PM) *
But they have a proven CL coach biggrin.gif.

One man can only do so much. He still needs to have a top side to compete in Europe, teams like Barca, Real, even Bayern are still imo head and shoulders above the rest atm

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 31 2011, 05:32 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 31 2011, 11:19 AM) *
I don't see what future they can really have, they'll just take over from Lyon in winning consecutive titles and picking up all the good players in the league


They'll build a good enough team to compete for the CL.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 31 2011, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 31 2011, 12:30 PM) *
One man can only do so much. He still needs to have a top side to compete in Europe, teams like Barca, Real, even Bayern are still imo head and shoulders above the rest atm

Yes they are, but why compare them with something even Chelsea or City fail to achieve? I think they are building, investing, signing. Sure, there ain't there yet, but it's a good direction.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 31 2011, 07:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 31 2011, 05:32 PM) *
They'll build a good enough team to compete for the CL.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 31 2011, 06:33 PM) *
Yes they are, but why compare them with something even Chelsea or City fail to achieve? I think they are building, investing, signing. Sure, there ain't there yet, but it's a good direction.

I agree with both of you. However there are certain ristrictions that they have. Chelsea and City are in the strongest league around, Cheslea were a penalty away from actually winning it, while City are a very new team and like Chelsea, they have to be a dominant force in their domestic league before they can actually do anything of note in the CL.

While PSG imo are in a league which will hold them back in the long run, like Lyon, even when they were at their best and won a gazillion consecutive league titles, they only managed to go so far in the CL.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 31 2011, 09:54 PM

...because Lyon was restricted in a financial matter. They reached however the CL semi finals which isn't bad either. PSG will have the financial and tactical edge, so, I do think they have the chance of going further.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 31 2011, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 31 2011, 09:54 PM) *
...because Lyon was restricted in a financial matter. They reached however the CL semi finals which isn't bad either. PSG will have the financial and tactical edge, so, I do think they have the chance of going further.

I think when you play in a league where competition only goes up to a certain level, and week in week out you're playing at that level, and then going out every fouthnight or sometimes even longer than that and face the biggest clubs in Europe who play at a higher level week in week out in their harder leagues, than that could have a huge affect. Of course you can't say, Porto won it a couple years ago, never say never and all that jazz, but atm, the CL is pretty much un-attainable to most clubs given the strength of a select few clubs

As for the tactical edge, I have a feeling that PSG is a stop gap for Carlo until the Roma bench in free for him. It's his dream, and right now with the project Roma are building is the best time for Carlo, of course if he starts winning with PSG you can never say if he might decide to stay, having a top class coach is a key factor in going far in a competition like the CL, not just the names on the team sheet

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 1 2012, 04:21 PM

Hmh, I see it differently then. I can't really tell that the league's strength means that much. You had Porto and Monaco in the finals, and teams like PSV, Ajax, Lyon reaching the semis or going on far. Is Barcelona playing on a high level week after week in the Primera? The Spanish league is a big joke, I must say it's not that big of a quality difference between Santader, Deportivo or Bordeaux and Montpellier.

As for Carletto, we really can't tell. I think Roma will hold on to Enrique as much as possible. I see Ancelotti more of a Italian NT coach then anything else, after Prandelli gets the boot.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Jan 2 2012, 09:52 PM

Mamadou Sakho: "Milan is my favorite team. Every weekend I check the Serie A results to see how Milan did"

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 2 2012, 10:56 PM

Sakho is a good defender. He'd be an ideal signing to replace the aging Yepes and incapable Bonera.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jan 3 2012, 07:51 AM

I dunno. Defenders in the French league? unsure.gif After Taiwo ? unsure.gif

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jan 3 2012, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jan 3 2012, 01:51 AM) *
I dunno. Defenders in the French league? unsure.gif After Taiwo ? unsure.gif

Sakho is on a whole new plateau of awesome!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jan 3 2012, 08:59 AM

Ok...I don't want plateaus. We already tried that with dhorassoo and taiwo. tongue.gif Only peaks of awesomeness please.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 3 2012, 11:53 AM

Just think of Desailly wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 30 2012, 09:35 PM

Former 'Ger Kris Boyd signs for MLS side Portland Timber. He will do well over there.

Posted by: Danny Feb 1 2012, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 30 2012, 08:35 PM) *
Former 'Ger Kris Boyd signs for MLS side Portland Timber. He will do well over there.


MLS is stronger than the SPL. Boyd has failed horribly since leaving Ibrox. Unless you're being sarcastic, what makes you think he'll succeed in the MLS?

Posted by: Danny Feb 1 2012, 03:05 PM

As an aside, Nikica Jelavic completed a last minute deal and is now an Everton player.

Glad the saga's over and we can move on.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 1 2012, 05:08 PM

Thiago Motta: "I've always followed PSG" biggrin.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 1 2012, 05:21 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 1 2012, 02:04 PM) *
MLS is stronger than the SPL. Boyd has failed horribly since leaving Ibrox. Unless you're being sarcastic, what makes you think he'll succeed in the MLS?

Defending for the most part is really poor over there. I think someone whos game is basically just a finisher and nothing else will be alright.

But yeah, his failings in the Championship is not really a great advert for the SPL.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Feb 1 2012, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 1 2012, 04:08 PM) *
Thiago Motta: "I've always followed PSG" biggrin.gif

Ah, he must be related to Robbie Keane.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Feb 1 2012, 11:02 PM

Just hearing about the Egypt football trouble. ohmy.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 1 2012, 11:25 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 1 2012, 10:02 PM) *
Just hearing about the Egypt football trouble. ohmy.gif


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16845841

Very sad news indeed, seems the police just left them to it! unsure.gif

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Feb 1 2012, 11:27 PM

73 dead, absolute madness.

What the hell kind of security even goes on here, none I'm presuming.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2012, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 1 2012, 10:27 PM) *
73 dead, absolute madness.

What the hell kind of security even goes on here, none I'm presuming.

And to think people had the nerve to criticise FIFA for giving a World Cup to that part of the World.

Posted by: acid911 Feb 2 2012, 08:41 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 2 2012, 12:05 PM) *
And to think people had the nerve to criticise FIFA for giving a World Cup to that part of the World.

Um, that's not that part of the world. unsure.gif huh.gif Egypt is something else entirely, and Middle East is a totally different animal. Qatar will (and should) do absolutely fine with security, if not the total package. There's also the issue of the recent revolution and broken down system in Egypt.

I'm sure as the World Cup 2022 approaches, Qatar will get more coverage by the media. All will be evident then.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2012, 10:45 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 2 2012, 07:41 AM) *
Um, that's not that part of the world. unsure.gif huh.gif

I was always under the impression Egypt was part of the Arabic World to be honest. The continent it happens to fall in means nothing.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 2 2012, 01:09 PM

Yeah...but that would be like comparing the deaths in Eastern Europe due to the cold wave and saying that France/Germany have horrible infrastructure.

Posted by: acid911 Feb 2 2012, 02:08 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 2 2012, 02:45 PM) *
I was always under the impression Egypt was part of the Arabic World to be honest. The continent it happens to fall in means nothing.

It is, and they speak the same language, but blimey if there are another countries the Arabs hate more than the Egyptians. And well the feeling is mutual. sleep.gif The three most disliked countries/civilizations in the Arabic World are Egypt, Iran and Turkey. In fact, Egyptians aren't that well liked in the rest of Africa (the black part), either.

Truth be told, the rest of Africa don't even consider the Northern countries African - Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Morocco. If they had their way, these countries probably wouldn't be in African Cup of Nations. Of course, this would mean the other countries would have more of a chance at winning the ACN. Team Egypt is just too good.

And this is ground knowledge, intelligence I gathered over the years. From my knowledge it's of no fault of their own, the hate just stems from a lot of different factors, including history, military might, and well Egypt was practically socially/economically well off before oil was discovered in the Middle East. wink.gif And just as well, most of the African continent is still quite poor and backwards.

I'd say the only country Egypt can be directly compared somewhat is Algeria - and that is their direct rival.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 2 2012, 05:09 PM) *
Yeah...but that would be like comparing the deaths in Eastern Europe due to the cold wave and saying that France/Germany have horrible infrastructure.

Exactly. smile.gif Good analogy, Captain!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2012, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 2 2012, 01:08 PM) *
In fact, Egyptians aren't that well liked in the rest of Africa (the black part), either.

Now you mention it, I'm sure I've heard commentators during the ACN mention that Egypt are much disliked by the rest of Africa.

I had no idea the countries were so different. From what I read and stuff, I always got the impression the difference between African-Arabic countries and Asian-Arabic countries was very little, that the people were similar.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2012, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 1 2012, 10:27 PM) *
73 dead, absolute madness.

What the hell kind of security even goes on here, none I'm presuming.

I'm reading that it's politically motivated. Al Ahly fans are supposedly very against Maburak and the police/army are loyal to him, apparently they saw no reason to protect them.

Posted by: William405 Feb 2 2012, 09:37 PM

Ofcourse,it's about politics.Did you think this was over a football match?xD

Egyptians have made fools of themselves too much.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 2 2012, 10:27 PM

Egypt is a bit crazy yeah.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2012, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 2 2012, 08:37 PM) *
Did you think this was over a football match?xD

What, you've never heard of football violence between rivals? unsure.gif

Posted by: William405 Feb 2 2012, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 2 2012, 11:31 PM) *
What, you've never heard of football violence between rivals? unsure.gif


Not at that scale no tongue.gif
If,this was about football match,then people are more stupid then I've presumed.(Not that fighting over politics is any better,it sounds more pathatic though).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2012, 10:40 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM) *
Not at that scale no tongue.gif
If,this was about football match,then people are more stupid then I've presumed.(Not that fighting over politics is any better,it sounds more pathatic though).

Retards will fight over anything.

Posted by: William405 Feb 2 2012, 10:58 PM

I guess you're correct,it's just I've never hurd of 79 people dying for a simple leauge game ?!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 3 2012, 02:02 AM

Nah, never to that extent, but there's still been crazy incidents in games where there wasn't even rivalries, like Heylsey for example.

Posted by: acid911 Feb 3 2012, 03:03 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 3 2012, 12:30 AM) *
Now you mention it, I'm sure I've heard commentators during the ACN mention that Egypt are much disliked by the rest of Africa.

Yup, and it's not exactly hate, just pure dislike. sad.gif Surely not racist or xenophobic, it's just that the most of Africa is black and well, African (as in traditions, lifestyle and economically not as secure as the Northern countries), while Egypt and friends aren't really that, plus them being closer to Mediterranean, and even a bit like Asia.

I mean in the last ACN, Egypt went to the final and won, and the displeasure was clearly evident on the commentators and African analysts' faces. You could see they were rolling with the flow, and no one was really happy.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 3 2012, 12:30 AM) *
I had no idea the countries were so different. From what I read and stuff, I always got the impression the difference between African-Arabic countries and Asian-Arabic countries was very little, that the people were similar.

Oh man, it's very different. laugh.gif You go from Egypt to Saudi Arabia to Iran, and then Pakistan (well we're as multi-cultural as it gets, anyway), and over to say Burma, Philippines, and Japan, it gets very different. Even staying in Arabian or African countries, there are similarities, but more than enough difference in culture and lifestyle.

You can say almost twice the difference between say England, France and Germany. I mean these countries are similar in many ways, and different in many others. Captain Jack's example of Eastern and Western Europe is a good enough fit here. Though there is a bit more of a difference (and friction) than say Albania vs England.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 3 2012, 01:18 AM) *
I'm reading that it's politically motivated. Al Ahly fans are supposedly very against Maburak and the police/army are loyal to him, apparently they saw no reason to protect them.

Yes, well that was my first impression. Things are quite messed up in Egypt. sad.gif That's why I said broken down system in Egypt, the country is practically upside down. Purely football violence at the scale of 73 dead and countless injured is not something one hears every now and then. Very sad.

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 3 2012, 02:03 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 3 2012, 10:02 AM) *
Nah, never to that extent, but there's still been crazy incidents in games where there wasn't even rivalries, like Heylsey for example.

96 people died in the Hillsborough tragedy. Liverpool doesn't have the brightest when it comes to their hooligans.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 3 2012, 04:16 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Feb 3 2012, 08:03 AM) *
96 people died in the Hillsborough tragedy. Liverpool doesn't have the brightest when it comes to their hooligans.

what was that again? I'm sorry i'm fully aware of my noobishness, but i am, perhaps one of the younger posters here and i never quite heard the full story.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 3 2012, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 3 2012, 04:16 PM) *
what was that again? I'm sorry i'm fully aware of my noobishness, but i am, perhaps one of the younger posters here and i never quite heard the full story.

Liverpool fans were crushed to death after an area of the ground was over crowded due to bad crowd control.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 3 2012, 05:42 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 3 2012, 03:37 PM) *
Liverpool fans were crushed to death after an area of the ground was over crowded due to bad crowd control.


No what happened was that as usual the scouse scum sayed in the pub getting pi55ed til the very last minute and then proceeded to storm Hillsborough crushing those that had already entered the stadium in time. At that time stadiums in Britain were fenced in so there was nowhere for the fans to go. Obviously the police were at fault for letting them stay in the pub rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Feb 3 2012, 06:22 PM

It's stuff like this that makes me dislike Liverpool as a club. It still amazes me how more on here hate United more, I guess that's down to success as oppose to reasons to really hate though.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 3 2012, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 3 2012, 05:22 PM) *
It's stuff like this that makes me dislike Liverpool as a club. It still amazes me how more on here hate United more, I guess that's down to success as oppose to reasons to really hate though.


There's many other examples as well, in Athens loads went over without tickets and broke fences to get in and take seats from those who had paid. The ones who paid were made to sit on the steps. There were also reports that some of those who had broken in were urinating over others who were sat in their seats.

To be fair to United their fans are usually very well behaved and respectful, IIRC when we beat them at San Siro they gave us a standing ovation. This is something I would never expect from Liverpool fans.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 3 2012, 11:21 PM

I do feel sympathy for the fans that died, it partly wasn't their fault, the policing was very poor. What I do hate is how they always play the victim card. I think United fans are a total disgrace and the majority aren't even real fans, but Liverpool fans are worse. For all the talk and stuff they do about Hillsborough and act like they've the best fans ever, they never mention the murderers of Heysel.

The Liverpool-United game recently is just stupid too. Why are they booing Evra? How dare he be the victim of racist abuse!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 3 2012, 11:52 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 3 2012, 10:21 PM) *
I do feel sympathy for the fans that died, it partly wasn't their fault, the policing was very poor. What I do hate is how they always play the victim card. I think United fans are a total disgrace and the majority aren't even real fans, but Liverpool fans are worse. For all the talk and stuff they do about Hillsborough and act like they've the best fans ever, they never mention the murderers of Heysel.

The Liverpool-United game recently is just stupid too. Why are they booing Evra? How dare he be the victim of racist abuse!


I think everyone has sympathy for the fans who died, but it was their fans who rushed in at the last minute and caused the tragedy. You can't really blame the police as if they're being rushed by a pi55ed up group what can they do? You can't play with fire and complain when you get burnt.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 4 2012, 12:39 AM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 3 2012, 05:42 PM) *
No what happened was that as usual the scouse scum sayed in the pub getting pi55ed til the very last minute and then proceeded to storm Hillsborough crushing those that had already entered the stadium in time. At that time stadiums in Britain were fenced in so there was nowhere for the fans to go. Obviously the police were at fault for letting them stay in the pub rolleyes.gif


From the documentaries that I've seen they made it seem as if the the real cause was the simple fact that an entry point was opened which lead to that particular area when it shouldn't have been. Thus leading to all those people rushing in at once in an already over crowded area.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 4 2012, 12:08 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 3 2012, 11:39 PM) *
From the documentaries that I've seen they made it seem as if the the real cause was the simple fact that an entry point was opened which lead to that particular area when it shouldn't have been. Thus leading to all those people rushing in at once in an already over crowded area.


Yes an entry point was opened because the fans had stayed in the pub until the last minute, which is the point i was trying to make. Had these fans arrived slightly earlier then they would have all got in safely. Of course it's easier to blame the authorities than look at ones self...

Posted by: Danny Feb 13 2012, 04:35 PM

Rangers look to be going into administration. Numb doesn't cover it right now for me.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 13 2012, 05:39 PM

How exactly do Rangers/Celtic get into this kind of position? Big attendance, CL football most years, win competitions, both have huge fan bases.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 13 2012, 05:57 PM

Yeah! Damn! End of the old firm??!!

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 17 2012, 05:30 PM

Guus Hiddink has signed an 18-month contract to manage wealthy Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 17 2012, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 17 2012, 05:30 PM) *
Guus Hiddink has signed an 18-month contract to manage wealthy Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala.


€10 million per season. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 17 2012, 07:20 PM

Montreal Impact sign Matteo Ferrari and are (still) looking into signing ADP...

Posted by: Danny Feb 22 2012, 05:31 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 13 2012, 04:39 PM) *
How exactly do Rangers/Celtic get into this kind of position? Big attendance, CL football most years, win competitions, both have huge fan bases.


We got into this position due to overspending from '98 onwards which led to us using an EBT - a scheme to avoid paying tax on wages and fees. That ended up being a 75M tax bill, but specifically HMRC forced us to go into admin because 9M in PAYE tax had not been received since Craig Whyte took over. Basically player income tax wasn't going to the tax man, the club kept it. And that forced HMRC's hand.

Posted by: Danny Feb 22 2012, 05:31 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 13 2012, 04:57 PM) *
Yeah! Damn! End of the old firm??!!


Administrators say Rangers should survive, but things will change.

Celtic couldn't cope without us tbh.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:32 PM

Ciro is deserving of another chance in Serie A, he has done a great job with the U21, I have heard alot of hype, but having seen only 2 U21 games i can safely say he is fielding a weaker team then we are used to having in the Italian U21s but is producing results nonetheless.

Posted by: Habitant Mar 11 2012, 03:55 AM

Montreal Impacts of the MLS Inaugural match vs. Vancouver Whitecaps. lost 2-0 on the road.
quite excited as a season ticket holder for the first home match next week biggrin.gif
For those thaat remember Matteo Ferrari hehe, milan were linked with him when his contract expired at roma, we also signed rivas, formally of inter. were also after corradi laugh.gif were after every washed up star of serie a!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 19 2012, 01:16 PM

QUOTE
Kilmarnock player Liam Kelly's father dies after cup final

The father of a Kilmarnock footballer has died of a suspected heart attack after watching his son's team beat Celtic in the League Cup final.

Midfielder Liam Kelly, 22, was seen running up the tunnel at Hampden after his father collapsed at the end of the club's 1-0 victory on Sunday.

Jack Kelly, 59, collapsed just before 17:00 near the Kilmarnock dug out. He died in hospital a short time later.

His son was told just before Kilmarnock lifted the trophy.

The rest of his team mates had collected their medals before learning of what had happened.

In the post-match press conference, Kilmarnock manager Kenny Shiels said: "The dressing room is very despondent and I don't know why the man above sends down these messages to us.

"We are thinking more about Liam than our triumphalism."

After the game, Kilmarnock goalkeeper Cammy Bell said: "I'm very close to Liam so it just puts things into perspective for me.

"If I could take away my performance I would, if Liam's dad was all right."

Bell and his team-mates had collected their medals before discovering the news.

"It was after getting the cup when I found out," Bell said.

"We were on the pitch and the kit man told me. The rest of the boys didn't realise."

Mr Kelly snr was treated at the scene by paramedics.

Police said he died just under an hour later at the Victoria Infirmary in Glasgow.

Awful thing to happen.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 20 2012, 02:19 PM

Chris Samba racially abused in Russia.

Should be an interesting WC. Great decision from FIFA, as always.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 20 2012, 03:07 PM

It's just that club I think. Lokomotiv? They have always had problems. They racially abuse their own damn players.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 22 2012, 01:20 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 20 2012, 02:19 PM) *
Chris Samba racially abused in Russia.

Should be an interesting WC. Great decision from FIFA, as always.

As far as I know, players were and still are racially abused in England as well?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 22 2012, 01:48 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 22 2012, 12:20 PM) *
As far as I know, players were and still are racially abused in England as well?

They are? I can only recall one incident in years. That was an individual person too.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 22 2012, 02:02 PM

Well, the Suárez-Evra thing, Jason Euell and Avram Gant come in mind almost immedeatly. I don't think it's avoidable, but it has to be punished, that's all. Don't see how such racial assaults should affect the WC host/organizer; every league has such problems, whether it is in England, Germany or Russia.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 22 2012, 02:26 PM

I think countries who have a history with large scale racism shouldn't be allowed. Surely the whole point is to reward a country? It's also why I don't think Spain should get it. And I hardly think a foreign player being racist should really be held against England.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 8 2012, 11:19 PM

X-Off will get a kick out of this, I'm sure. laugh.gif Ronaldinho's shocker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch527B3S81E

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 02:28 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 9 2012, 12:19 AM) *
X-Off will get a kick out of this, I'm sure. laugh.gif Ronaldinho's shocker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch527B3S81E


His co-national has been doing much worse, if you know who I'm referring to. wink.gif

Posted by: acid911 Apr 9 2012, 03:17 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 06:28 AM) *
His co-national has been doing much worse, if you know who I'm referring to.

I know. sad.gif I know, man, I know.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2012, 04:53 PM

Rangers have a buyer. Huge for Scottish football. A few Celtic fans I know are disappointed as they wanted Rangers gone. In reality, without Rangers, Celtic would end up the same way.

Posted by: Danny May 5 2012, 10:20 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 4 2012, 04:53 PM) *
Rangers have a buyer. Huge for Scottish football. A few Celtic fans I know are disappointed as they wanted Rangers gone. In reality, without Rangers, Celtic would end up the same way.


No, we have a preferred bidder. His name is Bill Miller and he now gets a 2 week period of exclusivity for due diligence, during which we hope his bid is acceptable and the transaction goes through.

Any tim who wanted Rangers dead...is the majority - and they're so stupid. Rangers cannot survive without Celtic and vice versa.

At least, not while in Scotland.

There's a minority of tims who were sensible enough to realise how crucial Rangers are to Celtic, and to Scottish football.

Without us, the SPL will die.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 9 2012, 07:30 AM

Emre racially abused Zokora in the past. This is what happens when they finally get on the same pitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5yDRAr1Beus

Posted by: Jack Bauer May 9 2012, 07:49 AM

And the ref gave him a yellow laugh.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 9 2012, 11:04 AM

Idiots. Both of them.

Posted by: Habitant Aug 4 2012, 08:40 PM

Going to montreal - phily mls game tonight.

montreal playing a back 3 of: ferrari - nesta - rivas

and a very strong possbility that i meet nesta after the game biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 4 2012, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Habitant @ Aug 4 2012, 09:40 PM) *
Going to montreal - phily mls game tonight.

montreal playing a back 3 of: ferrari - nesta - rivas

and a very strong possbility that i meet nesta after the game biggrin.gif

You are a lucky man smile.gif

Posted by: Habitant Aug 4 2012, 08:59 PM

i certainly consider myself to be!

my one regret is that i have nothing for him to sign besides a couple of milan scarves.

over the years i've bought at least a dozen milan jerseys and even tho nesta was always one of my favorties i'd normally go with either maldini or one of our star midfielders or forwards at the time.

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 7 2012, 11:15 PM

Have fun with that. And say hi. cool.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 13 2012, 10:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBS7r9XSTGg

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 13 2012, 10:23 PM

Red Bull Salzburg this season a real mess it seems.

Posted by: dst Sep 2 2012, 02:27 AM

a couple of beautiful goals in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4KXsnZ07c Greek Super League match from yesterday. The second one a bit on the ridiculous side.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 2 2012, 03:07 AM

Second one is amazing. Not just the finish, but that pass is inch perfect.

Posted by: dst Sep 2 2012, 11:47 AM

and yet the commentator is hardly impressed... we probably have the worst commentators I've heard with no exception, they make Joe Buck sound ecstatic!

the conceding team's fans applauded the scorer of the second goal too, that was great to see.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 2 2012, 12:36 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 2 2012, 04:47 PM) *
and yet the commentator is hardly impressed... we probably have the worst commentators I've heard with no exception, they make Joe Buck sound ecstatic!

Nope, the Chinese have the worst commentators when it comes to soccer. dry.gif They seem so uninterested and sound so unexcited, even when something great happens in a game, that I'd rather hear something that kills me.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 2 2012, 02:55 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 2 2012, 02:36 PM) *
Nope, the Chinese have the worst commentators when it comes to soccer. dry.gif They seem so uninterested and sound so unexcited, even when something great happens in a game, that I'd rather hear something that kills me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeMFKg4hyAE

laugh.gif

Posted by: acid911 Sep 2 2012, 05:51 PM

Well, exceptions do have a tendency to occur. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 3 2012, 06:50 PM

Del Piero is very close to signing with Olympiacos!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 3 2012, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 3 2012, 08:50 PM) *
Del Piero is very close to signing with Olympiacos!

I've heard he's on his way to Australia.

Posted by: dst Sep 3 2012, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 3 2012, 10:07 PM) *
I've heard he's on his way to Australia.

Olympiacos got in the middle but latest reports indicate he has chosen Sydney in the end.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 4 2012, 08:50 AM

Another casualty on the football field. sad.gif This time in Sweden. RIP.

QUOTE
Swedish player dies on pitch after scoring goal

A 29-year-old Swedish footballer collapsed and died of a suspected cardiac arrest minutes after giving his team the lead in a league match on Sunday.



Pitea player Victor Brannstrom had scored after just four minutes against Umedalen in their Division Two North clash when he suddenly sat down and slumped over, according to local newspaper Norrlandska Socialdemokraten.

A kit man and nurse immediately administered CPR to the player until three ambulances arrived and Brannstrom was taken to Pitea hospital, where he was pronounced dead shortly after 4 pm (2pm UK time).

"It is completely incomprehensible. It is so tragic. This is the hardest thing I have experienced," Pitea vice-chariman Christer Berglund said.

Brannstrom, who had previously played for Helsingborgs in Sweden's top flight, had retired from the sport in January following a similar collapse but returned to action when tests indicated he had no serious heart problems.

"That also feels so damn tough but we didn't persuade him to make a comeback - Victor wanted to play himself. He trained and it went well for him," Berglund added.

Pitea hospital said that the player's heart had stopped and that there would be a post-mortem to establish the exact cause of death.


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/swedish-player-dies-heart-attack-scoring-goal-093328274.html

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 4 2012, 12:16 PM

Awful. It now happens almost every year. R.I.P.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 4 2012, 01:09 PM

If this keeps up, I'd have a very hard time calling these 'games'. cry.gif Sports, yes, but events where people die on the field should not be called games in my opinion. Imagine a guy before a match, imagine his heart full of joy while on the ground, the chants and appreciation from the public in the stadium. And then sudden death!

This used to happen so very occasionally a couple of decades back, now I agree, it happens almost every year.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 17 2012, 03:52 PM

http://youtu.be/2tBnO-iOcKc

Like him or hate him, he's really talented.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 17 2012, 03:55 PM

He is good. Defending is so poor though it's not even right to call it professional. Only 1 player even tries to tackle him. laugh.gif

Not a fan of how he always has to be centre of attention, no celebrating with team mates.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 18 2012, 10:07 AM

He will sooner later be playing at a big European club and we'll see how good he is. there's a lot of things about him that I don't like. beside what you already mentioned, he's a show off, his hair looks ridiculous, etc. but I think he has the potential to become very good. the way he dribbles and breezes past defenders is one of the best I've seen since Messi.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 18 2012, 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 18 2012, 12:07 PM) *
He will sooner later be playing at a big European club and we'll see how good he is. there's a lot of things about him that I don't like. beside what you already mentioned, he's a show off, his hair looks ridiculous, etc. but I think he has the potential to become very good. the way he dribbles and breezes past defenders is one of the best I've seen since Messi.

Hair argument? 96.gif
Don't remember you making complains about our very own hair regiment tongue.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 18 2012, 01:34 PM

Yeah so? unsure.gif

I never said one is not allowed to express an opinion about someone's hair. I even said I don't like El Sha's hair myself. what I said was that people around these players (like Rino) have no right to tell them what to do with their hair or eyebrows. what does it matter if I or you say something about their hair in this forum?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 18 2012, 01:37 PM

It was a joke wink.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 18 2012, 01:47 PM

I thought it was half-joke, half-serious biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 18 2012, 01:49 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 18 2012, 03:47 PM) *
I thought it was half-joke, half-serious biggrin.gif

Every joke has some truth hidden in itself wink.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 18 2012, 01:57 PM

So I was right to not take it merely as a joke!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 18 2012, 02:01 PM

Haha, universally speaking.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 18 2012, 02:10 PM

Neymar is abnoxious, selfish and egotistical. He's struggle in any decent league imo. Party tricks and solo running are nice to watch and all but europe is not the Brazilian league where defending is seen as an afterthought

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 18 2012, 02:17 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 18 2012, 04:10 PM) *
Neymar is abnoxious, selfish and egotistical. He's struggle in any decent league imo. Party tricks and solo running are nice to watch and all but europe is not the Brazilian league where defending is seen as an afterthought

Nicely put biggrin.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 18 2012, 03:37 PM

First time he touches the ball here, he'd have something like this.


Posted by: Zed.D Sep 18 2012, 04:36 PM

I can't agree, han. Pato looked as impressive in the goals/tricks clips I used to watch before he came here. apart from injuries, you can't say he struggled in the Italian league, not technically. and maybe you haven't watched his clips as much I did, but he was a bit of a show off himself, doing tricks, trying to dribble everyone in his way, etc. basically being a Brazilian! you'e just letting your personal dislike of Neymar cloud your judgment IMO. not that I like him myself, but I think he's a very good player. time will tell.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 7 2012, 04:22 PM

Russian press talks about a possible Lavezzi-Hulk swap between PSG and Zenit in January.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/mercato/articoli/11787/pillole-di-calciomercato.shtml

LOL, what about all those millions they spent for them just a couple of months ago? I swear, hypocrisy in football nowadays goes beyond imagination.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Oct 7 2012, 05:47 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 18 2012, 12:36 PM) *
I can't agree, han. Pato looked as impressive in the goals/tricks clips I used to watch before he came here. apart from injuries, you can't say he struggled in the Italian league, not technically. and maybe you haven't watched his clips as much I did, but he was a bit of a show off himself, doing tricks, trying to dribble everyone in his way, etc. basically being a Brazilian! you'e just letting your personal dislike of Neymar cloud your judgment IMO. not that I like him myself, but I think he's a very good player. time will tell.

+1

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 7 2012, 07:43 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 7 2012, 06:22 PM) *
Russian press talks about a possible Lavezzi-Hulk swap between PSG and Zenit in January.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/mercato/articoli/11787/pillole-di-calciomercato.shtml

LOL, what about all those millions they spent for them just a couple of months ago? I swear, hypocrisy in football nowadays goes beyond imagination.

That sounds insane.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Oct 8 2012, 10:00 PM

http://youtu.be/HVNrioMOwmU

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 8 2012, 10:03 PM

Nice finish. Pass was better.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 8 2012, 11:27 PM

Great combination and finish overall.

Posted by: arivanjj Oct 13 2012, 12:13 PM

just went to see sydney play. saw del peiro score a nice free kick in front of me. and i never thought i'd say this but i also saw emile heskey score a goal too.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 13 2012, 03:21 PM

In a league which I'm sure doesn't need Heskey to have any kind of pace he'll actually be okay.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 18 2012, 09:26 AM

http://bbcsporf.lockerdome.com/articles/101580170

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 18 2012, 01:25 PM

He's only 20 and he's already played 200 professional games? Wow! And that was goal was... wow!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 18 2012, 07:18 PM

It's quite an incredible stat really. I think they play more games in South America though? He could easily have a career of 750+ games. IF he stays healthy, and that's a big if given he's been playing at a young age and he's a small build, he could do over 1000.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 18 2012, 11:23 PM

Btw. who's the player with most professional matches played ever?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 19 2012, 12:36 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 19 2012, 02:23 AM) *
Btw. who's the player with most professional matches played ever?


Romario? unsure.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Oct 19 2012, 02:25 AM

Probably someone from some small league.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 19 2012, 03:36 AM) *
Romario? unsure.gif

He has around 950 (teams + NT), Paolo had over 1000.

BTW, this is the guy with most NT caps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Hassan

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 19 2012, 03:21 AM

Shilton played 1352 club competitive + full Internationals. Or are we talking outfield players?

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