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Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 26 2009, 01:55 AM
Serie A 2009
Sunday, 5 Apr 2009 21:00 CET
Week 30
Okay 9 games left. No excuses. We have to win.
Forza milan.
Line up:
4-3-2-1
Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Favalli-Janku-Beckham-Pirlo-Flamini-Kaka-Seedorf-Pato
score: Milan 5-1 Lecce
Posted by: MizNelson Mar 26 2009, 01:58 AM
4-3-2-1
Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Favalli-Janku-Beckham-Pirlo-Flamini-Kaka-Seedorf-Pato
score: Milan 5-1 Lecce
5-1 seems way too generous. With Slowdork in the starting lineup, we'll be lucky to get five shots on goal.
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 26 2009, 02:00 AM
Lecce are not that strong so its definetly an option. I think with kaka fit by then we'll be able to start playing good football.
Posted by: Darunia Mar 26 2009, 07:09 AM
At home vs. Lecce? Pippo-Pato should start. Seedorf on the bench.
Dida
Zambrotta Maldini Favalli Jankulovski
Beckham Pirlo Flamini
Kaka
Pato Pippo
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 26 2009, 04:54 PM
Dida
Zambrotta Maldini Favalli Jankulovski
Beckham Pirlo Flamini
Kaka
Pato Pippo
+1 Agree with you man. I just posted the line up that is most likely going to be played.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 26 2009, 05:17 PM
You guys are assuming Kaka will be fit to play?
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 26 2009, 05:22 PM
Yes he should be fit by then. Unless our medical staff trip, and stab him with a needle or something.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 26 2009, 05:30 PM
I was actually worried about him picking up an injury while on NT duty.
Posted by: Ry4n Mar 26 2009, 06:11 PM
I hope Dunga plays Ronaldinho instead of Kaka' , so he can have more time to get ready for Lecce
Posted by: amancik Mar 27 2009, 10:27 AM
It might be another a boring 1-0 win to Milan ...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Mar 27 2009, 01:45 PM
i think this match, we come back and Bwitch slap them 4-1
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 27 2009, 05:51 PM
Dont be so sure about thrashing Lecce. They just changed their manager (lamentably Beretta left) and so they may be more invigorated than they previously were
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Mar 27 2009, 07:16 PM
if the Lecce players had their blood removed and replaced with red bull, i would still fell Milan were gross favorites!
Let's just hope we play like the club were are
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 27 2009, 07:36 PM
Ha ha ha...
We'll win..I'm sure.
Posted by: MizNelson Mar 27 2009, 10:28 PM
Heh.
I'm not counting out a grind-out draw. Lest we forget, Lecce is a Small Team™ we're playing, and they've given us fits aplenty in the past.
Posted by: acid911 Mar 27 2009, 11:14 PM
Haha, no other like Miz.
Completely agree with your point here!
Posted by: MizNelson Mar 28 2009, 02:12 AM
Completely agree with your point here!ACID!!! *wraps in a bear hug*
You sure missed a lot in Didaland while you were gone.
Posted by: acid911 Mar 28 2009, 03:03 AM
You sure missed a lot in Didaland while you were gone.
Haha, thanks! Feels great to be back.
I see our man has got another lifeline after Abbiati's injury. Just heard it yesterday from my brother that Dida's starting in the XI in Serie A matches! In fact, I've been very much out of touch with football - missed the CL matches this month too. As for Dida, I may be wrong but I reckon he's been undefeated up till now (bar the Coppa Italia PK shootout). Won quite a bunch of matches, both in the league and UEFA Cup, drawn a few, but overall a much improved performance than the ghosts of last season.Fingers crossed for a good showing next month!
Forza Dida! Forza Milan!
Posted by: MizNelson Mar 28 2009, 03:41 AM
Unfortunately, there wasn't a PK shootout in the Coppa Italia; we stuffed up in extra time and lost 2-1. The only positive was that he was the man of the match, performing oodles of saves.
You also missed the, er, save of the week v. Napoli.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ajWIQtL8XE
Posted by: acid911 Mar 28 2009, 04:54 AM
Aha.
Unless I'm severely mistaken there was a penalty shootout with Dida in between the posts this season, right? Maybe not in Coppa Italia, but in some other tournament/match. Correct me if I'm wrong. This 2008-09 season has been one to forget - pity I forget it so soon! 
Bah!I missed a whole lot of things.
Paolo is at the twilight of his career, and I missed more than one match with him playing in the starting XI. I deserved to be crucified. LOL. Thanks for the video link, watching now.
Posted by: MizNelson Mar 29 2009, 12:18 AM
****, I totally forgot this was an international break. I didn't realize this game wasn't taking place until next week. International breaks suck.
Posted by: Zed.D Mar 30 2009, 03:35 PM
I see Miz can't wait to see Dida in another Serie A game
Posted by: MizNelson Mar 30 2009, 06:31 PM
I do need my Dida fix, you know. But mostly it's because the forums are comatose during international breaks. No pirates, fishdolls or anything.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 30 2009, 06:35 PM
Fishdoll was at a local pub watching games and partying with a group of crazy Turkish fans on Saturday, he admits. Was great fun though!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 1 2009, 09:32 PM
turks are aggressive lol.
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 2 2009, 12:55 AM
Good bye lecce.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 2 2009, 03:14 PM
Here is Mediaset's projected lineup:
Milan-Lecce
Milan (4-3-1-2): Dida; Zambrotta, Favalli, Maldini, Jankulovski; Beckham, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà; Inzaghi, Pato. A disposizione: Kalac, Senderos, Ambrosini, Antonini, Flamini, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko. All. Ancelotti
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 2 2009, 03:54 PM
Take ratings from goal.com with a pinch of salt. They did after all give Cannavaro a higher mark than Chiellini and scorned Birghi who did nothing wrong really
Posted by: Darunia Apr 2 2009, 05:32 PM
What's wrong with Bonera, what injury does he have?
That lineup seems most likely, although I'd prefer to see Flamini get a start.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 2 2009, 10:01 PM
In the interest of accuracy, take away one point from each of Goal.com's player ratings every time.
Posted by: Habitant Apr 2 2009, 11:58 PM
that lineup is quite attacking considering it's carlo
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 3 2009, 12:05 AM
Unless emerson is fit, I dont think we have any other choice.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 3 2009, 12:09 PM
Stefano Farina will referee the game.
And it looks like Lecce will be without their striker, Tiribocci. He left training yesterday after injuring his knee.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 3 2009, 12:45 PM
i will prefer flamini to seedorf in midfield area
Posted by: Tennie Apr 3 2009, 04:19 PM
Standard training today with warmups, exercises (lots of guys went on a run through the woods) and practice game. Only really notable thing is that the Brazilians who'd been called up for their NT didn't train because the return flight they were on was delayed. They're in Milan but the delay was long enough that it didn't make sense for them to train.
At least they were on the plane. Unlike a certain striker for the cugini, who missed the flight entirely and who will probably get a massive fine.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 3 2009, 10:42 PM
He'll probably also be benched for their match against Udinese.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 3 2009, 10:59 PM
For those interested, the live radio commentary in Italian is available again for this game, from acmilan.com.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 4 2009, 02:38 PM
So a rather long prematch press conference today.
Here are the highlights relevant to players and who's likely to play against Lecce:
* Kaka has recoved completely.
* Those who weren't called up are fresher than those who weren't (?)
* Inzaghi is doing well and will play. After the last training, Ancelotti will decide how many forwards to field.
* Bonera's dealing with a groin injury but is close to a return and should be available against Chievo.
* Flamini is now showing why he was brought to Milan. It took him time to adapt but he's doing well and is a good alternative to Gattuso, Ambro and Pirlo.
* Borriello will remain at Milan and he is recuperating well.
* Emerson had a foot problem and may be available.
* Nesta is working on recuperation and we hope to have him available next season.
* Nice words about Pirlo.
* Ancelotti can't understand why Pato doesn't play more for Brazil.
* As regards Ronaldinho's condition, Ancelotti says that Dunga's never called to ask how he's doing as Lippi has with the various Italians.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 4 2009, 04:32 PM
If carlo doesn't play two forwards tomorrow he should pack his bags and go.
And neverson might be available for tomorrow but so am I
Posted by: Tennie Apr 4 2009, 05:05 PM
Call ups: Dida, Kalac, Antonini, Favalli, Jankulovski, Maldini, Senderos, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Beckham, Flamini, Pirlo, Inzaghi, Kakà, Pato, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho.
Giocatori indisponibili: Abbiati, Bonera, Kaladze, Nesta, Cardacio, Gattuso, Borriello.
Giocatori non convocati: Mattioni, Emerson
So, iross, does this mean you're not available either tomorrow?
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 4 2009, 05:09 PM
This one was so sad, it made me laugh hard...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 4 2009, 05:58 PM
Giocatori indisponibili: Abbiati, Bonera, Kaladze, Nesta, Cardacio, Gattuso, Borriello.
Giocatori non convocati: Mattioni, Emerson
So, iross, does this mean you're not available either tomorrow?
No, I have pulled a thigh muscle today and will be out for a couple of weeks
It's good to see neverson in his best position - the stands
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 4 2009, 06:56 PM
Well, with only nine matches to go and Nesta nowhere near complete game shape, Carlo's statement makes plenty of sense to me.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 4 2009, 08:12 PM
I don't get you, what's there to laugh?
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 4 2009, 10:14 PM
So i'm guessing its going to be:
(4-3-2-1) Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Senderos-Favalli-Beckham-Pirlo-Ambrosini-Kaka-Seedorf-Pato
If its that,
Then 1-0 Milan. If flamini and inzaghi are put in there instead. I"m going to say 5-1 milan.
Posted by: Darunia Apr 4 2009, 11:50 PM
Carlo doesn't really play Favalli at LB anymore...
anyways, Gazzetta predicts this lineup:
Dida, Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski, Flamini, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Pato, Inzaghi
as long as we see 4-3-1-2 and Flamini starts I'll be happy (provided we win too 
)
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 5 2009, 01:11 AM
anyways, Gazzetta predicts this lineup:
Dida, Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski, Flamini, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Pato, Inzaghi
as long as we see 4-3-1-2 and Flamini starts I'll be happy (provided we win too
)If this is the lineup, then 5-1 I predict.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 02:16 AM
Gah, I have gone for TWO whole weeks without any Dida, so he'd better play well tomorrow. 
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 02:31 AM
I've gone a whole season without Nesta.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 03:32 AM
Didafan hopes this will make you feel a little better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je1EzMiE3dI
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 5 2009, 04:00 AM
oh man i miss nesta too. It just doesn't feel the same without him in the centre. What a legend.
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 04:12 AM
I know right...A whole season without Nesta...Feels really weird!!!
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 04:20 AM
With Sandro's absence, there's definitely been a gaping hole in this team that a thousand Patos couldn't replace.
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 04:26 AM
Very very true...We must have a good offense but also a good defense...Defense wins games even in Basketball...I remember those days that we scored 1-0 and it will take the other team hell before they scored or didn't even score...Hopefully by next season, that gap would be completely filled
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 04:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je1EzMiE3dI
It does! (Fishdoll oy, now she's gone all cow-eyed and squealy.)
I really really hope we see him playing again.
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 5 2009, 04:52 AM
He can play till 40 i'm sure. If maldini can do it, then why not. Nesta is too good to hang up his boots right now.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:32 AM
I know... I've been hearing similar things about Nesta from Carlo since the start of the season. it's probably the tenth time that Carlo appoints a date (I know it's not his job, but he is the one who holds the press conferences and tells anything about the players' conditions) for Nesta's comeback, and when we reach that date, a new date is appointed. Nesta should've come back on the pitch 7 or 8 times by now.
Is Pato a defender? or Nesta an attacker? what on earth has Pato got to do with Nesta's absence? is he supposed to fill Nesta's empty place?
God...
Posted by: 6Best Apr 5 2009, 10:44 AM
It's good to see neverson in his best position - the stands
Very nice name .
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 10:44 AM
God...
I was talking more in terms of intangibles rather than on-pitch action.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 10:54 AM
(4-3-2-1) Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Senderos-Favalli-Beckham-Pirlo-Ambrosini-Kaka-Seedorf-Pato
If its that,
Then 1-0 Milan. If flamini and inzaghi are put in there instead. I"m going to say 5-1 milan.
No Seedorf in the trequartista role PLEASE for the love of god!!!
My choice would be
(4-3-2-1) Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Senderos-Favalli-Beckham-Pirlo-Flamini-Kaka-Ronaldinho-Pato
Becks and Seedorf to share the 90 minutes, Flamini is atm in far better form then Ambro has been in the past year and a half, so without question should be the one to start, and Ronnie should get the start instead of Seedorf next to Kaka since he is far better in that position then Seedorf will ever be.
But seeing as Carlo said that Pippo will most likely play I'm thinking he'll go for 4-3-1-2
Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Senderos-Favalli-Beckham-Pirlo-Flamini-Kaka-Inzaghi-Pato
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 11:08 AM
I really hope it's actually Dennis Farina reffing this game rather than Serie A's answer to Graham Poll.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 11:59 AM
han! Welcome back! Fishdoll has missed the penguins!
Here's Mediaset's updated lineup: Milan (4-3-1-2): Dida; Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski; Flamini, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà; Pato, Inzaghi
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 12:26 PM
Here's Mediaset's updated lineup: Milan (4-3-1-2): Dida; Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski; Flamini, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà; Pato, Inzaghi
Thanks
Have been way too busy to actually come on here these past few weeks, things have finally let up, thank god!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 5 2009, 06:35 PM
something wrong with my net today dont think will be able to watch the game today
Posted by: Ry4n Apr 5 2009, 06:57 PM
My prediction tonight is a 3-0 win with goals coming from Inzaghi and Pato !!
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 07:30 PM
good to have Kaka back hopefully a comfortable win i'd say 3-0
Posted by: vahid Apr 5 2009, 07:43 PM
MILAN : Dida; Zambrotta, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski; Flamini, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà; Inzaghi, Pato.
CHIEVO: Benussi; Polenghi, Esposito, Fabiano, Vives; Angelo, Giacomazzi, Munari, Ariatti; Caserta; Tiribocchi.
Good to see two strikers and Kaka behaind them.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 07:47 PM
Who switched Ancelotti with his evil twin? TWO strikers?!?!? Gosh.
Posted by: Ry4n Apr 5 2009, 07:50 PM
Sorry DP !
Posted by: Darunia Apr 5 2009, 07:52 PM
CHIEVO: Benussi; Polenghi, Esposito, Fabiano, Vives; Angelo, Giacomazzi, Munari, Ariatti; Caserta; Tiribocchi.
Good to see two strikers and Kaka behaind them.
The website thinks we're playing Chievo haha
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:03 PM
I don't even know if I should bother tuning in to the game on FSC. The past few Milan matches I've watched have literally either ended in draws or losses.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:06 PM
Some guy named Benussi is in goal for Lecce. Is he their regular starter?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 08:08 PM
Pippo almost!
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 08:10 PM
I think so, Miz. Don't pay a whole lot of attention to Lecce.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:14 PM
Lot of defensive heading by us going on here.
Note to FSC announcer: Dida is actually 35.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:18 PM
*yawn*...
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:21 PM
God down
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 08:22 PM
He should be okay..yeah, there he is coming back in. To applause.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:22 PM
Nice shot of our two overpriced show ponies sitting next to each other on the bench.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 08:25 PM
Which two?
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:28 PM
Dinho and Becks.
(Didafan does not appreciate Fishdoll's cheekiness. She reminds him that the crab rangoons she had earlier were delicious.)
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 08:34 PM
Fishdoll hey, it was a half-serious question! He and his person are getting slightly different pictures. (Watching the game on RAI, not Fox).
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:34 PM
Oh my God, there's been a Kalac sighting!! I hope his cervix has fully healed.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:35 PM
Why do we always struggle against Lecce? that I wanna know!
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:36 PM
What a shot Pato!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 5 2009, 08:38 PM
Have we scored yet, or are Lecce waiting to rip us to pieces through a counter attack and completely humiliate us
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:39 PM
This is mighty boring. Lecce haven't had a lot of opportunities when they're not parking the bus in front of our goal.
C'mon, FSC, at least give me a close-up of Dida just to make this worthwhile.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 08:39 PM
Kaka has slipped at critical moments more then I can count, he needs to change those boots
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 08:41 PM
ohdear.
Maldini OUT, Senderos in.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:42 PM
What a shot by Pato. Had that been on target and Benussi batted that away, it'd have been the save of the year.
The amount of empty seats is piteous.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 5 2009, 08:42 PM
maldini subbed what happend to him
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 5 2009, 08:42 PM
maldini subbed what happend to him
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 5 2009, 08:43 PM
Maldini OUT, Senderos in.
Right, im not even gonna watch this match anymore. We will not win.
See you guys when the match is over
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:44 PM
Emerson is not on yet
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:44 PM
CMF, I think Maldini was hit in the face earlier. Maybe he's experiencing dizziness as a result.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:46 PM
Pato... damn. bad finish
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 5 2009, 08:47 PM
that is ok then better than some serious injury
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:48 PM
Hubba. Thanks, FSC.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:49 PM
HT. 0-0
One word: boring
(Who's wearing the armband?)
Posted by: Ry4n Apr 5 2009, 08:51 PM
Why did'nt he pass to Inzaghi
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 08:52 PM
Selfish play by Pato and he shoots wide.
I don't even know why I'm bothering here, seeing that FSC is five minutes behind.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 08:53 PM
Pirlo
I think Dinho would be a good choice for the second half, maybe instead of Pippo, we need someone that can actuallu create something in tight spaces. Lecee are really grinding this out and there is no way we're going to break through with our current system
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 08:54 PM
Milan is playing bad...Hardly any chance at all...We really need a CF
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 5 2009, 08:54 PM
I don't think this one is a boring match.
If Pato only could have found the strenght to pass the ball to Pippo...
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 08:57 PM
Why isn't anyone hustling? Immediate Lecce gets the ball back in their half we all start running back...We need to hustle and pressurize these people..That is what liverpool n Barca does..Gives little chance for them even to pass
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 08:57 PM
After the 1st half whistle the armband wasn't on his arm... are you sure?
He was running real fast, maybe he couldn't look up and find Pippo.
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 08:59 PM
tactical and technical are the words I'd use rather than boring...Lecce playing with a line of 3 in front of the back 4...gonna be hard work the 2nd half thats for sure
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 09:01 PM
I saw the armband on his arm after Maldini was subbed? Least I think I did.
Ronaldinho warming up.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 09:03 PM
Yep, I'm pretty sure I saw it on him after Paolo came off... Maybe someone else can confirm this?
That's why I suggested Dinho for the second half instead of Pippo, he's the only attacking player we have that can create opportunities in tight spaces, Pato and Kaka both are good at attacking space but not at operating in the tight spaces that Lecce are barely leaving us with, especially Kaka who looks off his game by a country mile. At this point having Pippo on is a waste if we're not going to give him good balls to work with
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 09:05 PM
It's after 1pm over here, so I'll be juggling between America's Next Top Model reruns and the match.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:12 PM
We're doing slightly better this half
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 09:13 PM
It sounds like the FSC announcer is saying "Tittybocchi" whenever he says Tiribocchi's name. It's annoying.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:13 PM
Seedorf out 
Carlo is changing
Posted by: elcordobez Apr 5 2009, 09:14 PM
similar to what Dunga did vs Peru
had Pato Kaka and R80 with another striker up front
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:14 PM
hee-hee!
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 09:17 PM
Much to no one's surprise, Clarence is pouting as he's being substituted.
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:17 PM
This guy Munari is in love with the San Siro turf... 
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:18 PM
Pato!!! close. ****
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:19 PM
Pato missed a dunk...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 09:19 PM
Glad to see Carlo finally show some b@lls
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:20 PM
Where is Kaka?!...
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:21 PM
It does not take balls to take Seedorf out, it takes... 3 seconds!
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:25 PM
God... Pato close again :|
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 09:29 PM
That stop by Fabiano is going to leave a mark.
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:29 PM
We have to beat this team, they're awful. 
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:33 PM
Pato again... what a move/shot
Pato's not having a great game, yet he's by far our most dangerous player...
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 5 2009, 09:34 PM
I just noticed that Emerson isnt on the bench, rejoice!
However it dosent cover up the fact that Favalli and Senderos are playing together, which is most unsettling, i seem to recall the last time this comedy duo played, we couldnt contain a poor Portsmouth squad
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:35 PM
Why don't the tifosi start singing instead of yelling every ****ing second!!?!??!
Pato drives by defenders as if he's in a video game using cheat codes...
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:36 PM
Kaka, Janku, Dinho, Zambro.. all have been awful tonight
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:37 PM
Yes Kaka for Sheva that's what I was thinking! What's wrong with Carlo!??! 
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:39 PM
This was by far Kaka's worst performance in Milan shirt. at least as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 5 2009, 09:40 PM
Three strikers on the pitch...at the same time?
Are we playing Ajax in the Quarter Finals of the CL?
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 09:40 PM
Why not? Kaka has been more invisible than Casper the Friendly Ghost tonight.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:43 PM
Oh my heart! Lecce nearly
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:43 PM
I'm not surprised at Kaka coming out I'm surprised at Carlo paying attention... when was the last time he was fair and brought off our worst performers?
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:45 PM
OMG, someone shoot Dinho!!
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 09:46 PM
Heh, Shev dribbling up the pitch and a Lecce defender just kicks it across the field as if he were swatting a fly.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:50 PM
SENDEROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:51 PM
Finally!!! We've managed to turn Senderos into a hero...
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 09:51 PM
ZOMG. Fishdoll is shocked. GOAL SENDEROS.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 5 2009, 09:52 PM
buy him
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 5 2009, 09:53 PM
SENDEROS SCORED?!?!?!?!
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 09:53 PM
PIPPO! 2-0!!!
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 09:53 PM
Now lets not get carried over!!! No, i don't want us to buy him
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 09:54 PM
Inzaghi! again, one moment is enough.
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:54 PM
And now Shevchenko remembers he's still a footballer and serves a beautiful goal to Pippo... who manages to injure himself while celebrating...
Posted by: han2503 Apr 5 2009, 09:54 PM
What the hell
I'm still at 0-0 on FSC
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 5 2009, 09:55 PM
good cross by sheva
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 5 2009, 09:55 PM
I think he was being sarcastic
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 09:55 PM
Senderos > Pato !!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 5 2009, 09:56 PM
This was like old times. The gold numbers (ik), the Sheva-Pippo duo, the typicall Sheva cross,...
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 09:56 PM
they're giving the 1st goal to R80 by the way...tactical and technical just like i said but a win is what we deserved and what we got
FORZA MILAN!
Posted by: weeeow Apr 5 2009, 09:57 PM
...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 5 2009, 09:57 PM
Sorry pal, we didn't shoot him, and he scored 1 and made 1 up.
Posted by: Ry4n Apr 5 2009, 09:58 PM
FORZA SENDEROS + INZAGHI 
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:00 PM
I personally wouldn't mind at all if Senderos stayed as our fourth CB...
Ugly, ugly performance by the team. we didn't deserve to win IMO. with the exception of Pato, Flamini, Favalli and Pippo, no one did well IMO.
Posted by: amancik Apr 5 2009, 10:00 PM
Yes! Winning late like this is priceless...Pato deserves a goal though...
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 10:01 PM
Dida didn't have much to do, zeddie. What he did was okay too. So was Il Capitano.
Fishdoll +1 cookie to zeddie for recognizing Favster's good play.
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 10:03 PM
I think I just figured out something...The key to Sheva's success is his long hair...
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:04 PM
Senderos scored the 1st goal.
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 10:05 PM
Lecce are by far the worst team that has come to San Siro this season and it'd be a shame if we had not beaten them. Just look at how many times we beat them in the air... we won as many aerial battles as we had won so far through the whole season...
It's sad that the young one did not score. He did not have a very good game but he still was our best player and had many chances to score especially that header... I hate it when he does not score!
Carlo brought See out and he made a good change with Sheva in Kaka's place but he'll go to hell anyway for making that first substitution...
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 10:05 PM
Doesn't change my opinion of wanting Senderos gone after the season, though.
Did you see Benussi after Pippo scored? He was absolutely livid and got in Konan's face immediately afterward. Lecce's defending was nonexistent on that goal.
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 10:06 PM
Ugly, ugly performance by the team. we didn't deserve to win IMO. with the exception of Pato, Flamini, Favalli and Pippo, no one did well IMO.
couldn't disagree more...we were the only team after a result, ugly or not we wanted to win unlike Lecce who had a formation at time of 6-3-1....they made the game ugly and i think we throughly deserved the 3 points
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 10:07 PM
Did I mention I'm happy to see Seedorf getting subbed!?
Shut up!
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:07 PM
So was Il Capitano.Dida wasn't tested. he might have made a blunder had Lecce pressured us.
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 10:07 PM
they're giving it to R80 as he had the last touch and the flight of the ball changed
Posted by: amancik Apr 5 2009, 10:07 PM
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 5 2009, 10:08 PM
I disagree too..He should go back....
Posted by: dst Apr 5 2009, 10:09 PM
Certainly. We should have done MUCH better but still deserved the 3 points.
I'm still shocked at how bad Lecce played... they had one good chance in the whole game and we were playing with Senderos at the back...
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 10:10 PM
Senderos headed the ball, and it went off of Dinho's head and in. Therefore, it's Dinho's goal.
Sigh...
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:10 PM
A good team should be able to play football against any side, lecce's included. we're far away from that.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:12 PM
Then they should give his Napoli goal to Denis.
If Senderos's header was on target (which I think it was), the goal is definitely his.
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 10:13 PM
i thought at times we did play some good football, moved the ball around well and spread the play the unfortunate fact is to many players were below par hence the struggle to win the game
Posted by: mishie Apr 5 2009, 10:15 PM
If Senderos's header was on target (which I think it was), the goal is definitely his.
well they didn't they gave it to R80 and as stated in my previous post doesn't matter if it was on target the fact R80 altered the flight of the ball so they will give it to him
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:18 PM
@ mishie
Senderos saved our ***, not Dinho. that's my point.
Posted by: amancik Apr 5 2009, 10:18 PM
I wouldn't say our performance was bad, it wasn't excellent but there were times when I was quite impressed with the pace of the game. Although, our players' ball control and passing weren't fluid, they were moving the ball faster than usual.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 10:20 PM
Think you're a little harsh on Dida, zeddie. He DIDN'T make any mistakes even if he wasn't tested all that much.
Definitely not the best Milan game I've seen but hey. 3 points is 3 points and the Gobbi drew at the weekend, so we're 2 points closer to 2nd.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 5 2009, 10:23 PM
I don't think so. Lecce had two or three shots (not dangerous ones) on our goal. so I can't say Dida was good, because he wasn't involved.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 10:42 PM
He's been pretty much mistake-free and has done his job in the past two matches since taking over for Abs, and we have two clean sheets. That's all that matters.
Posted by: Rivaldo Apr 5 2009, 11:41 PM
Carletto's victory.... 
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 5 2009, 11:45 PM
Obscenely bloated ratings by Goal.com for today's match. Never mind that we sucked until extra time.
Zambrotta – 8.0: The Italian international was dominant on the right flank all match, especially in attack, as he sent in a countless number of balls into the area on a consistent basis.
Maldini – 6.5: The captain of the Rossoneri was forced from the field with injury after just 40 minutes of play, and prior to that taking place, he did everything that was required of him.
Favalli – 7.0: The veteran defender was fairly solid defensively, and despite a shaky start, in which he allowed Tiribocchi to get in behind him and threaten Dida in goal on two occasions, Favalli got better as the match wore on.
Jankulovski – 7.5: Similar to Zambrotta, the Czech international was up and down the left flank all match, providing great services to his attacking team-mates up front.
Flamini – 7.5: The Frenchman was very impressive at times tonight. He did well to get himself into shooting positions on a number of occasions, and he was unfortunate not to see at least one of his efforts beat Benussi.
Pirlo – 8.0: Continued the impressive form he showed in Italy’s two recent world cup qualifiers, as his passing and creativity was very good once again tonight. His ball into the area is what resulted in the opening goal to Ronaldinho on 91 minutes.
Seedorf – 5.5: The under fire Dutchman will come under further scrutiny after tonight’s performance, as his impact was minimal yet again, leading to him being replaced just eight minutes into the second half by Ronaldinho.
Kaka – 7.0: Made a welcomed return to the starting XI, and despite taking some time to impose himself in the match, he got better as it wore on; especially following the inclusion of Ronaldinho in the second half.
Pato – 8.5: Without doubt the most dominant player on the pitch tonight. He gave the Lecce back four an extremely tough time every time he was in possession of the ball. He had a number of opportunities to break the deadlock throughout, including a glorious effort on 34 minutes that had Benussi beaten, an incredible solo effort on 44 minutes that deserved more, and a header on 59 minutes from a Zambrotta cross.
Inzaghi – 7.5: Worked as hard as always tonight, after earning yet another start in Rossoneri colours. He managed to score the second goal on 93 minutes, with a header from a Shevchenko cross.
Subs: Senderos 7.5, Ronaldinho 8.0, Shevchenko 7.0
No way do most of these players deserve to crack 7 territory. Ridiculous.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 5 2009, 11:51 PM
+1
LOL
I myself wasn't thrilled to see Il Capitano come off either, for Senderos at that too... Atleast he helped us atain a win.
+1
Sheva was successful long before his long hair era, this has nothing to do with his assist today!
Shevchenko has gotten older, and a lack of regualr football over the past few 'YEARS' has caused a need for change in his approach to the game. This isn't getting to be acted upon, since he isn't in form and we can't wait for him to adapt at the moment. All in all, Shevchenko screwed up his playing career (unfortunately) from the time he signed for chelsea. Sad that he hasn't be able to get back to his best since this. It is a damn shame, who knows what more he could have accomplished by now had he not made that MISTAKE!
Anyway - no use crying over the past, just need to look foward.
Regardless of what else transpires in the 'story of Shevchenko' he will always be a Legend in my eyes. (He became one before even leaving Milan) ...And Legends - Don't Die! (figuratively speaking obviously)
Milan has certainly changed from what we have once known and loved it for being (hopefully it will get back to its best really soon - the wait was been long and torturous
), its no where near the likes of what Milan used to be, but putting that aside, today's performance wasn't really 'bash' worthy. Surely a draw today against Lecce would have been a great disappointment, and we somehow managed to get the win late in the end (thank goodness). We weren't at our best today, that for sure is damn certain (we actually haven't seen Milan at their best for quite some on a regualr basis), but today we were also FAR from our worst.Posted by: Tennie Apr 5 2009, 11:58 PM
By way of comparison with the ratings on the Website Not To Be Named, here are Datasport's ratings:
Dida 6 Paraticamente inoperoso per tutta la gara ma suda freddo su un tiro di Tiribocchi che termina di poco a lato.
Jankulovski 6 Spinge davvero molto sulla fascia sinistra, sta bene fisicamente e i compagni ne approfittano.
Maldini 6 Gioca come può con un leggero problema agli adduttori della gamba sinistra. Sostituito a pochi minuti dalla fine del primo tempo.
Favalli 6.5 Ad inizio gara soffre la velocità di Tiribocchi, riesce a prendergli le misure giocando di anticipo.
Zambrotta 6.5 Sembra non risentire del doppio impegno con la Nazionale, corre moltissimo ma i suoi cross non sono precisi come al solito.
Senderos 6 Entra al posto dell'infortunato Maldini e gioca una buona gara. Il gol di Ronaldinho per poco nnon è suo visto che il brasiliano tocca il pallone involontariamente.
Flamini 6.5 Da qunado è iniziato il ritorno di campionato il francese ha offerto prestazioni sempre migliori. Un valido aiuto per la squadra, vista l'assenza di Gattuso e il non ancora pieno recupero di Ambrosini.
Pirlo 6.5 Il metronomo del centrocampo si diverte. I centrocampisti avversari non lo impensieriscono mai e lui può lanciare i compagni con tutta calma.
Kaka' 5 Cade sempre, forse ha sbagliato le scarpe. Se Dunga ha detto che è stato il suo staff a rimetterlo in piedi e questi sono i risultati non ci siamo proprio.
Seedorf 5.5 Cincischia molto. Con la palal tra i piedi è formidabile ma oggi non è incisivo.
Inzaghi 6.5 Praticamente inoperoso per tutta la gara si sveglianel finale con l'ingresso di Ronaldinho e Shevchenko che sanno come servirlo, difatti trova il raddoppio di testa su assistenza dell'ucraino.
Ronaldinho 6.5 Porta in vantaggio i rossoneri con un fortunoso colpo di testa. per la verità il tiro è di Senderos ma il brasiliano è sulla traiettoria e tocca il pallone.
Shevchenko 6.5 Era una vita che non lo si vedeva in campo e lui fa di tutto per mettersi in mostra. Suo l'assist del raddoppio di Inzaghi.
Pato 7 E' inutile nasconderlo. Questo ragazzo ha una marcia in più degli altri. Da rivedere la sua progresisone nel primo tempo o la sua conclusione dai trenta metri che si spegne di poco a lato. Un fenomeno.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 6 2009, 12:07 AM
[said ratings]
Those are much better. +1 piece of peppermint bark to Fishdoll.
Posted by: GATTUSO91 Apr 6 2009, 04:36 AM
what`s the final score in milan-lecce?
k can`t see the match and y want to know the score
Posted by: Darunia Apr 6 2009, 06:46 AM
2-0 Milan =D
Senderos/Ronaldinho scored and Pippo added the second.
Posted by: vahid Apr 6 2009, 09:53 AM
How is Maldini? is his injury serious or not? can he play next week?
Posted by: elcordobez Apr 6 2009, 11:00 AM
re:Pato
Yes in hindsight he could've been less selfish at certain times,but then again what if he scored?Then we'd be saying,thank god he was selfish at that moment.
Either way i'm sure he'll strike the right balance over time,whatever he chooses to do on the field at his age right or wrong is valuable experience for himself.
Another thing,judging primarily from replays,the body language from the team sometimes is quite negative when Pato screws up one of his runs but i hope behind closed doors they are supportive.
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 6 2009, 11:33 AM
Oh, I think they are. He's young and inexperienced, and just has a tendency to hold on to the ball too much and is surrounded by opposing defenders as a result.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 6 2009, 11:38 AM
Yes in hindsight he could've been less selfish at certain times,but then again what if he scored?Then we'd be saying,thank god he was selfish at that moment.
Either way i'm sure he'll strike the right balance over time,whatever he chooses to do on the field at his age right or wrong is valuable experience for himself.
Another thing,judging primarily from replays,the body language from the team sometimes is quite negative when Pato screws up one of his runs but i hope behind closed doors they are supportive.
+1
Exactly my thoughts (great minds think alike after all
)Had his finish been more accurate, it would've been a super goal (even better than his goal at the Olimpico). I for one don't complain he took his chance. he made it himself out of nothing.
As for some of his teammates' reactions, well, whenever they stopped playing like they don't give a hoot and actually played like a Milan player, then we'll talk. especially last night I saw an awful Kaka and to a lesser extent Seedorf, Janku, Zambro, etc.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 6 2009, 11:45 AM
I don't think he holds on to the ball too much; not anymore. Dinho and Seedorf do that.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 6 2009, 01:50 PM
A very good performance overall. Milan dominated from the very first minute of the game, controlling the whole field and constantly pouring the pressure on Lecce. Credit is due to Lecce for defending real well the whole match though.
Some notable comments on specific players from yesterday's match:
Out of the midfield players:
Pirlo is on top form .. What this player does with the ball at his feet is simply fantastic !
Flamini has really improved from when he first arrived, and I expect him to continue on this path.
On the attacking players:
Kaka' seemed to do well .. Not by his usual standards, but considering the persistent injuries that has kept him from producing his usual standards. Nevertheless, I am grateful that he is able to play.
Ronaldinho seems to find it difficult in finding spaces, as he is constantly being tackled whenever he gets the ball. Give him space and his creativity is what opened up the chance to score the second. He will come clean at the end.
Pato has show maturity and is cementing his presence in this team. I don't think I can add more, as he has been a consistent factor upfront
Shevchenko ... A banner on the Curva Sud last night read: "Carletto, show more respect to Shevchenko!" I hope he stays on.
3 points in the bag and 4 points a drift off 2nd place. Yet I think the season is over, inter got the Scudetto, Juve will have to get ready for next season and so will Milan.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 6 2009, 01:59 PM
Sheva's golden ball win was for his 03/04 season, that's when he had the cropped hair cut. I actually had to make a double take when I saw him with the long haor again, when I see his long hair the moment my mind automatically switches to was that CL goal against Inter, the curler with his left foot from the edge of the box. That was an unforgettable goal...
As for him playing well, I think he can never go back to what he was, but do I think he could be useful to us next season should he play more? Definately!! He's just been way off his game these past 2 seasons, imo, Sheva was mostly ruined for the 2006 world cup, he got injured in the last few games of the season with Milan, they pushed him into recovering and playing for the world cup, then he was off being paraded around the US with Chelsea in their summer tour, and after that he was constantly played as a winger in Mourinho's rigid system, after that first season at Chelsea it all went down hill for him, both with injuries and form.
As for the discussion of whether or not we deserved to win this game, I think we did based on the fact that we played decent, didn't even give Lecce a look in and for Carlo's positive subs. I think the subs alone to me were the highlight of my week not even the win, just because they proved to Carlo that if he is positive the results will come.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 6 2009, 07:36 PM
Some notable comments on specific players from yesterday's match:
Out of the midfield players:
Pirlo is on top form .. What this player does with the ball at his feet is simply fantastic !
Flamini has really improved from when he first arrived, and I expect him to continue on this path.
On the attacking players:
Kaka' seemed to do well .. Not by his usual standards, but considering the persistent injuries that has kept him from producing his usual standards. Nevertheless, I am grateful that he is able to play.
Ronaldinho seems to find it difficult in finding spaces, as he is constantly being tackled whenever he gets the ball. Give him space and his creativity is what opened up the chance to score the second. He will come clean at the end.
Pato has show maturity and is cementing his presence in this team. I don't think I can add more, as he has been a consistent factor upfront
Shevchenko ... A banner on the Curva Sud last night read: "Carletto, show more respect to Shevchenko!" I hope he stays on.
3 points in the bag and 4 points a drift off 2nd place. Yet I think the season is over, inter got the Scudetto, Juve will have to get ready for next season and so will Milan.
Very good post and agree with all but the Shevchenko part - IMO he is finished and has nothing else to offer.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 6 2009, 07:56 PM
Ugly, ugly performance by the team. we didn't deserve to win IMO. with the exception of Pato, Flamini, Favalli and Pippo, no one did well IMO.
Now, here's a new perspective,..
I mean...we didn't desereve a victory? Who did? Lecce? Seen 2nd half?
Naah, won't bother discuss,..yeah, we played like sh@t and deserved to loose.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 6 2009, 08:00 PM
i find Dinho's passing is SO UNDERRATTED.... just thought him and Pirlo put on a passing clinic
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 6 2009, 08:03 PM
If find Dinho's been threated very unfair. We have to give him more time and more chances. In his first season, he didn't do bad at all IMO.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 6 2009, 08:03 PM
Wow. Someone else noticed that Pirlo had a decent game. +1 gateau a mtl!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 6 2009, 08:14 PM
Lol merci bien Dizaine
Posted by: dst Apr 6 2009, 10:46 PM
A note about Ronaldinho; he controlled a long ball amazingly well at some point. I've seen him do that with harder to control balls while also surrounded by a couple of players and I'd honestly pay just to see him kick the ball up in the air and control it down. I've never seen anyone do that so beautifully and seamlessly.
If only he was a real professional...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 6 2009, 11:57 PM
Him playing Pirlo is AMAZING, he is better at doing that then to make Ronnie-runs
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 7 2009, 02:38 AM
+1 gateau a mtl!I won't a cookie to if this is the case!
Pirlo played well indeed, his movement and awareness on the pitch was really good.
He also kept on putting some nice long balls into the box. A pity we didn't make better use of them upfront.
His FK - needed some help though
(Guess thats what happens when u have Becks & Dinho taking them from time to time as well.)
Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 7 2009, 03:21 AM
Dzeko could very well make good use of Dinho's crosses...I hope we get him
Posted by: MizNelson Apr 7 2009, 05:11 AM
Why is it that Sheva publicly expresses his desire to stay at Milan only when he does something noteworthy in a game?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 7 2009, 05:25 AM
Probably because that's the only time they bother sticking a mic under his nose.
@i_d_mtl: You da man! +1. Forza the legion of ball passers
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 7 2009, 07:24 PM
Ha! smart answer, Jack.
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