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AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 06/07 _ 29/07/06 - Pre-season - Lecco vs. Milan

Posted by: arivanjj Jul 26 2006, 09:53 AM

should be a nice game for Milan but who's playing?

Posted by: Portikins Jul 26 2006, 10:16 AM

Foggia, Gourcuff... ?

I want to see the 2nd one in action.

Posted by: han2503 Jul 26 2006, 05:48 PM

Wasn't this game cancelled??

I'm really disappointed I really wanted to see Gourcouff and Foggia play

EDIT!!!

Posted by: Portikins Jul 26 2006, 07:17 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 26 2006, 04:48 PM)
Wasn't this game cancelled??

I'm really disappointed I really wanted to see Garcouff and Foggia play
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Yep. It was cancelled. No match vs. Lecco. sad.gif

Btw dude, it's Gourcuff. wink.gif

Posted by: han2503 Jul 26 2006, 08:36 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Jul 26 2006, 06:17 PM)
Yep. It was cancelled. No match vs. Lecco.  sad.gif

Btw dude, it's Gourcuff.  wink.gif
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Fixed blush.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 26 2006, 10:58 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 26 2006, 07:48 PM)
Wasn't this game cancelled??

I'm really disappointed I really wanted to see Gourcouff and Foggia play

EDIT!!!
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reedit man it's Gourcuff!!!!!!!!!!! LOL tongue.gif

I hope he'll make us learn to spell his name correctly!!!! wink.gif

Posted by: han2503 Jul 26 2006, 11:26 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 26 2006, 09:58 PM)
reedit man it's Gourcuff!!!!!!!!!!! LOL  tongue.gif

I hope he'll make us learn to spell his name correctly!!!!  wink.gif
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MAAN I can't get his name right in this damn post. All players should have names like Kaka or Pirlo nothing with 2 vowels next to eachother, otherwise it gets all confusing

Posted by: milanista1899 Jul 27 2006, 07:52 PM

This match has now been put back to 2nd August at 20:30 Italian time, instead of being cancelled! YAY!!! biggrin.gif devil.gif

Posted by: han2503 Jul 27 2006, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jul 27 2006, 06:52 PM)
This match has now been put back to 2nd August at 20:30 Italian time, instead of being cancelled! YAY!!!  biggrin.gif  devil.gif
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YEESSS can't wait

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 28 2006, 05:50 AM

What's the point of this game ? Is it just a friendly or a tim cup thing ?!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 28 2006, 05:50 AM

What's the point of this game ? Is it just a friendly or a tim cup thing ?!

Posted by: han2503 Jul 28 2006, 03:10 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 28 2006, 04:50 AM)
What's the point of this game ? Is it just a friendly or a tim cup thing ?!
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It's a friendly

Posted by: YoungGun Aug 2 2006, 04:16 AM

How can we watch?

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 12:29 PM

QUOTE (YoungGun @ Aug 2 2006, 03:16 AM)
How can we watch?
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20.30: LECCO-MILAN AMICHEVOLE.
In diretta su Milan Channel dallo stadio Rigamonti-Ceppi di Lecco il primo test stagionale del Milan

Anyone... Milan channel?! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 08:07 PM

MILAN - 1st eleven : Dida; Brocchi, Favalli, Costacurta, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Gourcuff; Inzaghi, Gilardino

Using Favalli as a CB, and Brocchi RB?! huh.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 08:22 PM

Inzaghi has scored to make it 1-0 to Milan devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: YoungGun Aug 2 2006, 08:22 PM

Pls, update it Portugal!!!

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 08:25 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 07:22 PM)
Inzaghi has scored to make it 1-0 to Milan devilsmiley.gif
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Watching the match? I'm following from the italian version of the official site.

Was a good goal?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 2 2006, 07:25 PM)
Watching the match? I'm following from the italian version of the official site.

Was a good goal?
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I heard it was a little dink over the 'keeper. I think Gourcuff played the ball to Seedorf from the left and Seedorf played it through to Pippo.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 08:31 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 07:28 PM)
I heard it was a little dink over the 'keeper. I think Gourcuff played the ball to Seedorf from the left and Seedorf played it through to Pippo.
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Rete 4? Milanchannel?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 08:32 PM

I think Milanchannel is the only one showing it.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 08:35 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 07:32 PM)
I think Milanchannel is the only one showing it.
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Than you're a lucky bast@rd... tongue.gif

Sport TV (Portuguese Sports Channel) only shows Inter losing (vs. Monaco and Tottenham), Man Utd and Real Madrid.

It has the Lecco match, but it was cancelled b/c of the date. sad.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 08:36 PM

HT: 0-1 Inzaghi

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 2 2006, 07:35 PM)
Than you're a lucky bast@rd...  tongue.gif

Sport TV (Portuguese Sports Channel) only shows Inter losing (vs. Monaco and Tottenham), Man Utd and Real Madrid.

It has the Lecco match, but it was cancelled b/c of the date.  sad.gif
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I haven't got Milanchannel as I live in England sad.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 08:55 PM

Half time substitutions:
bonera
vogel
amoroso
foggia

out : Gilardino Inzaghi Gattuso Ambrosini

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 09:10 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 07:39 PM)
I haven't got Milanchannel as I live in England sad.gif
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So... you're following from the website?

Just because you annouce the Inzaghi goal before it appeared on the official (on my browser at least).

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 2 2006, 09:27 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 10:55 PM)
Half time substitutions:
bonera
vogel
amoroso
foggia

out : Gilardino Inzaghi Gattuso Ambrosini
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Hows the game so far? How is Bonera .. Did Gourcuff get his chanc to play (if so how was his performance)?

Posted by: han2503 Aug 2 2006, 09:31 PM

Is anybody actually watching the game live? I have to wait til midnight to see it on Rete 4, if so how are Gourcuff and Foggia doing?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 09:32 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 2 2006, 08:10 PM)
So... you're following from the website?

Just because you annouce the Inzaghi goal before it appeared on the official (on my browser at least).
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Trawl the web my friend, the answers are out there tongue.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 09:33 PM

It is now 2-0 to Milan as Borriello scored and Lecco missed a penalty(Costacurta's fault).

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 09:34 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 2 2006, 08:31 PM)
Is anybody actually watching the game live? I have to wait til midnight to see it on Rete 4, if so how are Gourcuff and Foggia doing?
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I heard Gourcuff did well in the first half but was fading towards the end of the half. Don't know about Foggia though.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 2 2006, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 08:33 PM)
It is now 2-0 to Milan as Borriello scored and Lecco missed a penalty(Costacurta's fault).
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Great, was Boriello's goal good (are you watching it live?)

EDIT asked the same question sry blush.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 09:37 PM

FT: Lecco 0-2 Milan (Inzaghi, Borriello)

PS: damned I_Rossoneri, you could have posted the stream... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: han2503 Aug 2 2006, 09:39 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 2 2006, 08:37 PM)
FT: Lecco 0-2 Milan (Inzaghi, Borriello)

PS: damned I_Rossoneri, you could have posted the stream...  rolleyes.gif
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There was a stream for this match??

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 09:41 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 2 2006, 08:39 PM)
There was a stream for this match??
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"Trawl the web my friend, the answers are out there"
- I_Rossoneri

Guess it was or something like a stream...

Posted by: han2503 Aug 2 2006, 09:47 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 2 2006, 08:41 PM)

"Trawl the web my friend, the answers are out there"
- I_Rossoneri

Guess it was or something like a stream...
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Hmm interesting, he might have been listening to a radio stream or found a livescore website that was covering the game.

Who knows the mystery of the week.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 2 2006, 10:08 PM

Alright, I watched the entire match on Milan Channel. In the first half it was raining crazy just like one year ago against Ascoli, so the match began with 15 minutes of delay. But in the second half the rain stoped. Anyway, I saw a good match, especially by Seedorf who was the padron of the midfield. Also, other players who impressed me were Jankulovski, Gourcuff and Borrielo. Jankulovski played as left defender, and was very active in both the defensive and attacking maneuvers. Gourcuff played a very good match, as left midfielder, but then during the match alternated in all the positions of the midfield. He kicked all the corners (which were very precise) and one thing that caught my attention was his ability with the ball. He was very elastic and fast, but also a bit fragile. So I think he'll have to improve in his physic potential. Borrielo, was very strong and impulsive, played as lone striker and scored a nice goal. Other players that did well were Favalli, Costacurta, Foggia and Amoroso (who gave the assist to Borrielo). Lecco also lost a penalty, kicked out. Dida played all the match and did good. Also, I don't think Brocchi as right back could work. I don't know, he didn't convince me.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 2 2006, 10:08 PM

It wasn't a stream I was looking through forums. If there was a stream I would have watched it myself.

Borriello took a pass from Amoroso and hit a left foot shot into the roof of the net.

Posted by: m1ke Aug 2 2006, 10:15 PM

Thanks for the summary X-Offender. I'll try and find the goals and post them in the video section...

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 10:18 PM

Yeah... the highlights would be good.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 2 2006, 10:27 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 2 2006, 09:08 PM)
Alright, I watched the entire match on Milan Channel. In the first half it was raining crazy just like one year ago against Ascoli, so the match began with 15 minutes of delay. But in the second half the rain stoped. Anyway, I saw a good match, especially by Seedorf who was the padron of the midfield. Also, other players who impressed me were Jankulovski, Gourcuff and Borrielo. Jankulovski played as left defender, and was very active in both the defensive and attacking maneuvers. Gourcuff played a very good match, as left midfielder, but then during the match alternated in all the positions of the midfield. He kicked all the corners (which were very precise) and one thing that caught my attention was his ability with the ball. He was very elastic and fast, but also a bit fragile. So I think he'll have to improve in his physic potential. Borrielo, was very strong and impulsive, played as lone striker and scored a nice goal. Other players that did well were Favalli, Costacurta, Foggia and Amoroso (who gave the assist to Borrielo). Lecco also lost a penalty, kicked out. Dida played all the match and did good. Also, I don't think Brocchi as right back could work. I don't know, he didn't convince me.
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Thanks for the recap, I'm glad that seedorf played well (he is the one who normally sleeps when playing small teams, I think he will try to prove something to the doubters this season) and I'm glad that Gourcuff and Foggia impressed you. I won't both of them to play against red star. Do you know what formation Carlo was using, I'm assuming he was experimanting a lot

Oh and if Boriello played well I might have to rethink my decision about if I agree with him going to Lazio to get Oddo. Hmm, it's a head scratcher

Posted by: han2503 Aug 2 2006, 10:27 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 2 2006, 09:08 PM)
It wasn't a stream I was looking through forums. If there was a stream I would have watched it myself.

Borriello took a pass from Amoroso and hit a left foot shot into the roof of the net.
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Well mystery over tongue.gif

That's why you said you where trawling around

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2006, 11:20 PM



I must say, again, I really like this seasons kit. Now in action, it's even better.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 3 2006, 01:11 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 2 2006, 10:27 PM)
Do you know what formation Carlo was using, I'm assuming he was experimanting a lot
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In the beginning he used the 4-3-1-2 scheme with Ambrosini as defensive midfielder, Gattuso on the right, Gourcuff on the left and Seedorf as attacking midfielder. But then he changed a lot.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 3 2006, 01:51 AM

Just got back from watching the match, I've got to say that Gourcuff really impressed me in the first half, he was everywhere and seemed to be involved in all of the plays, plus his linking up with Seedorf was amazing it was like they had been playing together for a few years already, but in the 2nd half he kind of faded away, but I noticed that Carlo was playing him really deep in the 2nd half, almost like Pirlo.

Foggia did good although he came on in the 2nd half and was getting into the game slowly.

But I've got to say our defense needs a lot of work, I can't imagine us playing against Red Star with that back line, they kept making mistakes, and the only reason we didn't concede was because we where playing a cr@ppy team.

Seedorf was my only surprise he was fantastic in the first half and was everywhere, and he normally is the one falling asleep when playing the small teams, so let's hope that that new number 10 on his back gives him extra motivation. Ambrosini, Gila and Pippo also did well. Gila seemed to be playing as a bit of a withdrawn striker but still did well and kept making those little back passes he usually does that lead to 2 chances for Pippo. And Ambrosini played some great through balls and was solid in the defensive midfielder role

All in all it was a really cagy game, everyone was having a hard time finding his feet and the game couldn't settle into a rythm in the beginning, the last part of the second half was Carlo giving a run out to the primavera players

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 3 2006, 02:13 AM

Glade to see Milan back in action .. Though the players seemed kind of lacking stamina, I think they will be good to face Red Star.

Btw, just got my new Milan Jersey (White) .. The bwin logo isn't that bad at all devil.gif

Posted by: adooooo Aug 3 2006, 10:28 AM

For those that haven´t seen the goals, here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQErk9IGqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ZBcBlCQDI

Enjoy!! biggrin.gif devil.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 3 2006, 05:47 PM

QUOTE (adooooo @ Aug 3 2006, 03:28 AM)
For those that haven´t seen the goals, here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQErk9IGqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ZBcBlCQDI

Enjoy!! biggrin.gif  devil.gif
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Thanks very much!
Two very good goals. smile.gif

Posted by: hashkal Aug 3 2006, 06:53 PM

Cheeerss Adoooooo....gd job mate. I dnt know about u guys but I cant wait to see milan in action especially now that we are sheva-less...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 3 2006, 07:20 PM

Super .. Thanks adooooo king.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 3 2006, 08:04 PM

Thanks adoooo! Burn Pippo Burn!! devil.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 3 2006, 08:25 PM

I need to see a Milan game or else I'm going to explode. It's like a drug to me

Posted by: acluda Aug 3 2006, 09:53 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 2 2006, 09:08 PM)
Gourcuff played a very good match, as left midfielder, but then during the match alternated in all the positions of the midfield. He kicked all the corners (which were very precise) and one thing that caught my attention was his ability with the ball. He was very elastic and fast, but also a bit fragile. So I think he'll have to improve in his physic potential.
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really? so basically he is lacking the physical presence to make an impact this year, hmmm..., how small is he really? like who does he compare to in size?

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 4 2006, 12:14 AM

QUOTE (acluda @ Aug 3 2006, 09:53 PM)
really? so basically he is lacking the physical presence to make an impact this year, hmmm..., how small is he really? like who does he compare to in size?
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No, it's not that he is small or something. He's 1.85 m, pretty tall. What I meant is that he should be more stable and balanced when defending the ball. You know, he seems a bit like Inzaghi when's controlling it. Well, at least that was my first impression. Hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 4 2006, 12:57 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 3 2006, 11:14 PM)
No, it's not that he is small or something. He's 1.85 m, pretty tall. What I meant is that he should be more stable and balanced when defending the ball. You know, he seems a bit like Inzaghi when's controlling it. Well, at least that was my first impression. Hope I'm wrong.
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Yes that's what I thought too, but let's not forget that he is a 19 year old kid, and he is tall, but I noticed that he can defend the ball pretty well when he has it not to mention that he also fights for it. I think he did very well last night, I was very impressed by what he did, he seemed to be involved in every play last night, not to mention his pin point passing, I think only one of his passes wheren't succesful.

Posted by: acluda Aug 4 2006, 04:58 PM

based on what you guys said, it looks like gourcuff is going to be a gem in the years to come, cant wait!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 4 2006, 08:36 PM

So anybody know what's Gourcuff's nickname?? Or are we allowed to do the honours?? I think I called him Zidaninho in an earlier post biggrin.gif

Posted by: amancik Aug 4 2006, 09:13 PM

I know he's a midfielder but what kind of style does he play? ...

1. Fast and can beat defenders like Kaka'
2. Skillful and lots of tricks like Ronaldinho
3. Great composure and long balls like Pirlo
4. Rhino (Gattuso)
or 5. no specific style (Seedorf) ....

can anyone tell me?

Posted by: han2503 Aug 5 2006, 02:56 AM

QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 4 2006, 08:13 PM)
I know he's a midfielder but what kind of style does he play? ...

1. Fast and can beat defenders like Kaka'
2. Skillful and lots of tricks like Ronaldinho
3. Great composure and long balls like Pirlo
4. Rhino (Gattuso)
or 5. no specific style (Seedorf) ....

can anyone tell me?
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1. I don't think he is fast (couldn't tell because the pitch they where playing in wasn't that big and there didn't seem to be any space for a lot of running with the ball not to mention that it was flodded with water in some areas and there wasa lot of heavy rain in the first half) but he can beat defenders like Kaka does, I opened a new thread for him in the players section and there are a few videos that can show you what I mean he does have a bit of Kaka in him.

2. I didn't see him do any tricks, I don't think he could have done a lot considering all the rain and water on the pitch but I don't think he's the Ronnie type of player

3. His passes amazed me really, they where all very precice (only one didn't make it to where it was supposed to go in a whole game). Agian in the thread I made about him I put up the footage of this games first goal and you could see his Pirlo type pass that went to Seedorf before he made his assist. I think he has a bit of Pirlo and Kaka in him.

4. He's definatley no a Rino style of player but I did see him steele the ball a few times, kind of like what Pirlo does also, he steeles the ball without having to make a big deal about it.

5. As for the "Seedorf" style, I don't know but he did play amazingly with Seedorf they seemed to have a very good understanding with eachother.

All in all, he's a very good player and I feel like we have something special on our hands

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 5 2006, 03:02 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 5 2006, 04:56 AM)
All in all, he's a very good player and I feel like we have something special on our hands
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I hope we do rolleyes.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 5 2006, 03:24 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 5 2006, 02:56 AM)
As for the "Seedorf" style, I don't know but he did play amazingly with Seedorf they seemed to have a very good understanding with eachother.
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Yep, I've got to agree on that. They played amazingly together, like they knew each other since a couple of years.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 5 2006, 03:32 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 5 2006, 02:24 AM)
Yep, I've got to agree on that. They played amazingly together, like they knew each other since a couple of years.
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Yep did you see those 1 2's they did with each other on the beginning of the match, simply amazing

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 5 2006, 03:36 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 5 2006, 03:32 AM)
Yep did you see those 1 2's they did with each other on the beginning of the match, simply amazing
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Yeah. I can't wait to watch Gourcuff again in action on wednesday. San Siro is no Lecco, so there will be no pitch-problems and he will show the best of himself.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 5 2006, 04:01 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 5 2006, 02:36 AM)
Yeah. I can't wait to watch Gourcuff again in action on wednesday. San Siro is no Lecco, so there will be no pitch-problems and he will show the best of himself.
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Me too, I hope that Carlo gives him the whole game to play, I also would like to see more of Foggia, I think that Carlo will definately use him on wednesday but only as a sub which is a shame because he is one of the most gifted players that have come up from the recent crop of Italian youth players

Posted by: m1ke Aug 5 2006, 06:15 PM

Sounds like a new star is being born cool.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 5 2006, 06:30 PM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Aug 5 2006, 08:15 PM)
Sounds like a new star is being born cool.gif
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Fact that Kaka came to us at a similar age and rocked the world of football, has given me faith in Milan's ability to pick the best of the best devil.gif

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