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han2503
post May 21 2023, 03:40 PM
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And once again, I want to reiterate that we did not fluke anything last season

We were the best side points wise, we got the most points against the top 6 sides and we had a near perfect 2022. That is not fluking anything.

What we did do is follow up that Scudetto with a straight shot to the foot by not improving the squad and losing a player that made up the backbone of the team


@Fillipo re Kalulu. Let's see. I think a lot of our players are suffering from a hangover following the league win. No one has been up to standard imo.

Kalulu is having a tough time finding his rhythm again following his injury.
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post May 22 2023, 02:29 PM
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Yes, there sure is plently of time to see about Kalulu.

But what about Pioli? Do you guys think we should keep him if we fail to reach 4th spot?
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post May 22 2023, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 21 2023, 03:40 PM) *
And once again, I want to reiterate that we did not fluke anything last season

We were the best side points wise, we got the most points against the top 6 sides and we had a near perfect 2022. That is not fluking anything.


According to you we did fluke in 2011. Just because you hate Allegri.

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post May 22 2023, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2023, 02:29 PM) *
Yes, there sure is plently of time to see about Kalulu.

But what about Pioli? Do you guys think we should keep him if we fail to reach 4th spot?


No, if we want to grow as a club and brand we need an experienced winning manager.
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post May 22 2023, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 22 2023, 06:04 PM) *
According to you we did fluke in 2011. Just because you hate Allegri.

What?
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post May 22 2023, 08:46 PM
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Juve deducted 10 points and currently losing 2-0 to Empoli. Looking good for us.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 21 2023, 03:40 PM) *
And once again, I want to reiterate that we did not fluke anything last season

We were the best side points wise, we got the most points against the top 6 sides and we had a near perfect 2022. That is not fluking anything.

What we did do is follow up that Scudetto with a straight shot to the foot by not improving the squad and losing a player that made up the backbone of the team


@Fillipo re Kalulu. Let's see. I think a lot of our players are suffering from a hangover following the league win. No one has been up to standard imo.

Kalulu is having a tough time finding his rhythm again following his injury.


Last season we overachieved. Nobody can deny it. But we should have used the opportunity as a stepping stone to build a more competitive team. We failed. Spending only 50m in the whole summer, 70% of that amount going into a single player who's had perhaps the worst first season of any important signing in our history.
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post May 23 2023, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2023, 07:11 PM) *
What?


He gave our club zero credit for the Scudetto claiming it was due to every other side in the league being absolutely terrible. Which is what I said about last season and he mocked the idea.
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post May 24 2023, 08:33 PM
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Juve deducted points, while Milan have a game with Juve in a couple of days, this is THE most important fixture of the calendar at the moment. As if Milan wins, Milan can cement 4th place with a final game against Verona.

On the assessment side; the season was not great, but not bad either. This team has a core which works. A core that won the Scudetto and went touching distance to the CL trophy. I am inclined to state that from next season Milan need an assault on the Scudetto, while the CL needs to be kept on ice and taken on a game per game basis.

Its been a long journey lads, since Berlusconi sold the club, one which left a lot to be desired. But alas, finally us fans have something to look forward to.

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post May 27 2023, 09:26 PM
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Inter beating Atalanta basically securing the Champions league spot for Milan? We just need a draw against Juve.

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post May 27 2023, 10:07 PM
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This was a strange old season. Milan lack the soul of the club we all grew up with, not unlike my own Rangers with both clubs' fates mirroring each other identically.

Both Rangers and Milan back in the UCL for the first time in an age this season, but Milan punched miles above their weight while Rangers were horrible.

But domestically both were terribly poor and felt very lightweight.

Funnily enough, both suffer with a substandard RB who also happens to be captain.

Milan need major investment, but that's not really coming is it? The age of the Milan we knew is well gone and we're a bit of a slimline version now.

Our biggest signing this summer would be keeping Leao if he actually wants to stay.
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post May 28 2023, 09:31 PM
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We are not able to hold possession for last few minutes now. Lets hope we stay strong defensively
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post May 28 2023, 09:42 PM
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Thanks to juve's court appointment every now and then we have qualified for next year's UCL.. 1-0 WIN... Will be a relaxed finale now for us
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 22 2023, 02:29 PM) *
Yes, there sure is plently of time to see about Kalulu.

But what about Pioli? Do you guys think we should keep him if we fail to reach 4th spot?

No, he should go.

Grateful for all he's done, but this team has out-grown him

What was previously an exciting high press system has turned into a stale, static mess.

I'll always hold him in high regard as he is the one who turned this rag-tag bunch of players into champions, but he's reached the limit of what he can give to this team imo. If we keep him next season I fear it will get even worse

We've just made CL, this is a golden opportunity. We have massive revenues which came in from the CL this season, we know we have at the least the group stage money in the bag for next season. We can use this and finally take a step forward. Sign some quality players and bring in a coach who can take us to the next level.

QUOTE (Danny @ May 22 2023, 04:04 PM) *
According to you we did fluke in 2011. Just because you hate Allegri.

We didn't fluke anything in 2011 either. I always said that title was mostly down to individual brilliance. We had top top players in that squad. Ibra especially was a difference maker practically every week. For me, last season was much more of a collective effort. Yes, we at time rely on Leao's brilliance. But his numbers are no where near what Ibra used to pull off during that Scudetto winning season. Not to mention other players like Nesta, Thiago Silva, Pirlo, Seedorf, Robinho, Ronaldinho, Pato, etc. That team was stacked. We have a good first 11 now but no where near that kind of quality, especially off the bench

QUOTE (Danny @ May 22 2023, 04:04 PM) *
No, if we want to grow as a club and brand we need an experienced winning manager.

Agreed!

QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 22 2023, 08:49 PM) *
Last season we overachieved. Nobody can deny it. But we should have used the opportunity as a stepping stone to build a more competitive team. We failed. Spending only 50m in the whole summer, 70% of that amount going into a single player who's had perhaps the worst first season of any important signing in our history.

Yes, we were ahead of schedule for sure. I didn't think we'd be anywhere near title contention within the first 5 seasons of the takeover.

But you cannot deny that it was a great collective effort, with the best defense in the league, and a near perfect record against the best sides in the league with only 3 draws marring that nearly perfect record. We were there in all the big and important moments and never faltered mentally.

QUOTE (Danny @ May 23 2023, 11:30 PM) *
He gave our club zero credit for the Scudetto claiming it was due to every other side in the league being absolutely terrible. Which is what I said about last season and he mocked the idea.

Don't think I've ever said that. Just don't credit Allegri with much for that win. He relied solely on his star players to win games.
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post May 28 2023, 09:58 PM
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Anyway, back in the CL for next season. Truly undeserved, but I will take it off the back of Juve. The least we deserve for that Muntari ghost goal.

A season to forget aside from 4 games in the CL.


Serious reflection needs to be done in the summer. And all while so much work needs to be done with the squad.
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