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Rossoneri7
Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 04:07 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 4 2019, 03:53 PM) *
Again, Milan ain't Leeds. We have history and value, I think someone will come and pick us up soon enough.


That 7 CL bags on the side of the shirt isn't playing on the field. 5 of those CL titles were funded by Silvio. With FFP that is not possible even if an owner does come in.
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Posted on: Oct 8 2019, 04:56 PM


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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 8 2019, 05:20 PM) *
Yup. I can't honestly say I support this club any more. I follow its fortunes, but the soul was ripped out long ago and it's a total clusterf*ck of an operation now.

I enjoy the chat on here, but the Milan we all grew up with is gone, probably for good, and it's been replaced by a satirical tribute act.

With a f*ckme terrible shirt.


These baboons used to mock Silvio and Galliani... Now they are in management they need not try any harder they are doing a fine job of tarnishing their image in my eyes. The image of legendary players.

I can't stand this team, I'm actually disappointed at myself for renewing my subscription for Serie A this season.

I don't think I follow this team either, my heart is not in it anymore.
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Posted on: Oct 8 2019, 04:42 PM


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Apparently Pioli signed for Milan.

Can Milan go any lower?
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Posted on: Oct 8 2019, 02:00 PM


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Maldini and Boban = Clowns.

Milan into the abyss.
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Posted on: Oct 2 2019, 11:20 AM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 19 2019, 11:43 AM) *
So, Atalanta start by losing 4-0 to Dinamo. Shows you how weak Serie A actually is.


Then how weak is Real Madrid
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Posted on: Oct 1 2019, 06:03 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 1 2019, 05:53 PM) *
No, that was not what I meant. But out of the three Gazidis is the one with experience and he's the expensive acquisition. And right now his rule of signing youngsters and talents isn't exactly helping, especially in Serie A.

Why would anyone be motivated to target EL after this seasons decision to forfeit our spot? The same will probably happen next year as well.

Oh and don't get me even started on how superior the Galliani management was. Don't you see that this is exactly how we got here in the first place? Sorry, Milan becoming the club of today must be one of the biggest falls in football history for sure. In the last 20 years, perhaps even more.


Gazidis was brought in to make sure Milan are put on a path of self sustainability; his record at Arsenal speaks volumes as they are by far the best club in that regard.

The club forfeited EL in a settlement agreement with UEFA to wash away previous seasons FFP breaches. Doesn’t mean it is the flavor of the management to forfeit the same every season. And if it does happen next year as well, assuming Milan does qualify, then it will be as another settlement whereby Milan had breached FFP again.

Im sorry, Galliani to-date is the best director Milan had. FFP was introduced in 2011/12 season IIRC and was first brought to the attention of clubs for adherence in 2009. At that time Milan had been running losses year on year and its Revenues were on a constant decline. So if your memory of Galliani was from 2009 onwards then obviously you would view him in such negative light. Limited funds and an inflated transfer market dominated by free spending EPL clubs shoved Milan right out of competition to sign top players. My memory of Galliani was in constructing super teams, the ones that made us fall in love with the club.

How we got here in the first place? Well that is down to several factors. But the main culprit is FFP. Without FFP Milan would still be making losses but signed the best of the best.

Today the club is serious about self sustainability. But the onfield issues are Maldini and Bobans scope whom are doing a splendid job you say? But ofcourse its all Gallianis doing isnt it;/

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Posted on: Sep 30 2019, 03:56 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 30 2019, 12:29 PM) *
I don't think they necessarily have to be sacrificed. Switching Leonardo with Boban was a big mistake. Gazidis is also IMO very much responsible. IMO we should keep Maldini and Boban because they are both inexperienced and deserve a second chance under the conditions they work. What we need is another person with more experience. If only we could get Braida for that part.


So we fire Gazidis and keep Maldini and Boban?

Don't think Braida would be enough my friend.

On our chances for CL... Please let us stick to where the club is at right now, hovering above the relegation zone. EL seems a decent target, if the team manages to climb out of their arses and administer a comeback that is.

Before the season started I was convinced we'd be challenging. But now I'm convinced the club has no structure, just names (Maldini, Boban), a history almost covered in a foot of dust and an inclination to prove that the Galliani management was far superior (yes even in the dying years).

Oh how times have changed, this club used to be respected by its own players before its opponents. Nowadays the opponents respects the club before its players. Such a shame it has come down to this.
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Posted on: Sep 30 2019, 06:19 AM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 30 2019, 02:01 AM) *
I'm also sure Giampaolo won't go or be sacked. Which is yet another mistake.

The first and biggest responsibility lies on Maldini and Boban. As predicted, they did a terrible job during the summer. I a short period of a few months Fiorentina managed to advertise themselves as a ambitious "project" with good perspective and attract different kinds of players - and finally, Ribery. Milan on the other hand failed at the crucial targets (Correa, Veretout) and failed again in finding alternatives. The bad mix of players we tolerated last season and we knew reached their maximum was only weakened by the departure of players like Bakayoko or Abate (as a senator player), while Bennacer, Krunić and other such additions can and will do little in this dire position.

Giampaolo was a bad decision and they're now making it worse by prolonging the inevitable decision. By not sacking him after a row of defeats just shows you where Milan is right now. We've lost is completely, no winning mentality, no big club thinking, not even acting like a big club anymore.


Yes sir, Maldini and Boban were legends on the pitch, but as directors they did a piss poor job. The coach, the team and the philosophy on the pitch was down to the directors.

There is a lot of room for improvement, but not enough time or tolerance at Milan. These guys need to exit Milan as soon as possible.

The sooner they hand in their resignations the better. I like to remember the days they played for the club, not the days they made bad decisions on behalf of the club.

Such bullshit.
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Posted on: Sep 26 2019, 06:33 AM


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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 26 2019, 02:31 AM) *
Equally though I can't support those who appointed him.

I only support those who do the right things for the club - and few are right now.


This sums it up for me. The directors are the ones to blame, after all this was orchestrated by them.
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Posted on: Sep 23 2019, 04:47 PM


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Yes we are fans, but we are not privy to the teams training sessions. So we pass judgment on the games we see.

But let's be fair here, you can hate Giampaolo, Piantek, Suso and Donna that's your preference and your liking and your taste... However saying the coach is not up to par because he didn't play Biglia or Cala or Leo, that is subject to their condition in training. That is all I am saying here:)
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Posted on: Sep 23 2019, 06:17 AM


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I understand frustration and disappointment. But in all fairness its easy to judge the team or coach from weekend to the next, while the whole week of training we are in the dark.

The team that goes on the pitch is one that went through training and proved capable (amongst the others) to start.

Maybe as spectators we desire a certain method or player or tactic etc, however and barring hindsight the one that was applied during the game is the one the team was most effective in.

P. S. It's too early in the season to start downgrading players/coach. If anything I'd shoulder the blame on the novice directors rather than the coach or team.
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Posted on: Sep 22 2019, 07:37 AM


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Again, inter are a well equipped team and have an experienced coach. Milan started off with glimpses of hope however left gaps that inter exploited.

It is only the fourth round of Serie A, not the end of the world.
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Posted on: Sep 18 2019, 08:19 AM


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It will be tough for Milan, inter are a well equipped team and their coach is hands down top three in Serie A.

Their last result in Europe should not dictate how good they are. But if Milan step on the field with grinta and the right mindset Milan could cause a shock.

For a Milan!
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Posted on: Sep 7 2019, 09:53 PM


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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2019, 07:23 PM) *
I still wonder what really went down between Silva and Monaco.

Had that gone through, I believe we'd be looking at a completely different transfer market

All in all, with the resources we had, I think we did good. But yes, the Leao move is still baffling to this day considering how much they wanted Correa. I mean logic states that you first go after your top target. Just doesn't make sense how we spent all the Cutrone money on a shot in the dark when we were desperate for a profile like Correa


They were looking for a player to complement Piantek is all I could think of
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Posted on: Aug 31 2019, 09:56 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 31 2019, 09:59 PM) *
You mean avoiding relegation? Yes, probably.


Is this team really that bad?
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Posted on: Aug 31 2019, 11:28 AM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 31 2019, 01:14 PM) *
Good job? I disagree. Have we offloaded the problematic players? No. We rescinded a contract and loaned out a player for peanuts. Are we closer to Europe? Last season we were a 2 points short of CL football. This season it could be a double digit deficit.


Elliott only took over last summer, they took over a club which was in breach of FFP for years (compounded legacy issues) and they inherited a squad which was assembled by Li and which did not serve the economical viability of the club.

Giving up Europe to clean out the FFP slate was a bold move that only the future will tell if it was the right thing to do. Cutting the squad either by rescinding the contracts or sale of higher earning/unqualified players is a task that was mandated by the top and for which Maldini said it was the focus of their summer plans.

If they were not able to profit from the sale of players or if Silva was unattractive to other clubs, how is that the management's fault?

Think this squad is good enough for Serie A and only time will tell
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Posted on: Aug 31 2019, 10:08 AM


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CR is eligible for the Beckham Law, as it stands by January 2020 he would have been at Juve for only a year and a half and as such the clubs wage tab on his salary would be reduced as a gross while CR would receive the same net salary.

Sarri on the other hand has only been out of Italy for a year so taxes on his wage does not count. While Conti was out of Italy for two years so his club would make a saving there.

Why hasn't Milan attracted top plauers/coaches for this season. Mainly attributed to CL football, as the same gives players incentive to join and additionally the extra income the club makes at the offset as well as the potential income from participation.

A lot is being said here of the management being run by Maldini and Boban. When in reality it is Gazidis along with Elliott who run the show. Their plan is clear, clean the legacy FFP slate, unwind the unnecessary wages and offload the players the club does not want/need. Once the club reaches Europe it will be in a position to add the right quality players that fit the system of play going forward.

In that light Milan's management is doing a good job. The club needs to find the right balance between economics and sport, otherwise FFP scrutiny will be back again.
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Posted on: Aug 29 2019, 05:35 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2019, 04:23 PM) *
Is it FFP really? I question the whole decision making process this season.

Why have we left Europe? In order to sign Leao and Hernandez?

Oh and you seem disappointed. It was pretty obvious that we won't sign Correa. Perhaps there is still a little chance, but nah...


FFP was always going to bite. Milan for all its history is not generating income to match ambitions.

But all is not lost, Italian parliament passed the 'Beckham law' which takes effect in January 2020. It was implemented in 2005 in Spain and hence they got influx of quality players.

The Beckham law stipulates that any player/manager who comes from abroad (having spent at least two years outside of Italy) would be eligible for a tax break in salary. So the outlay that clubs pay players is less and hence are able to attract star players again. It has a different technical name but Google 'Beckham law' and you should get all the details.
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Posted on: Aug 17 2019, 10:16 PM


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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 18 2019, 12:59 AM) *
What I saw looked pretty mediocre. But then it's a mediocre squad with a mediocre manager so not really a shock.



Danny you nailed it my man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I watched the game while in transit at the airport and found something a little different. I focused my critic on the movement of the team ‘off the ball’ ... in that light I feel the team did rather well.

Let us not forget this is a new formation for ‘this’ squad and some of them might be disoriented at present, i feel by the time the season starts it will be a different Milan. Or else I hope so, as I have just subscribed to the new season via my cable provider (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Posted on: Aug 13 2019, 06:14 AM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 13 2019, 01:54 AM) *
70M based on one good season. Hmh,...


I’v noticed a lot of emphasis is on the middle of the park, which is one area Milan is definitely lacking in. Also it is something that needs to be reinforced if Giampaolo is going to make the 4-3-1-2 work.

On another note, this new Brazilian defender we got I just checked some of the youtube compilations and the kid definitely shows some promise. Also why do I sense this has Paolo Maldini ‘approved’ stamped on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Posted on: Aug 10 2019, 06:46 PM


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It seems Milan need to offload Kessie, Donna and/or Silva before any more signings happen. So although there might be developments behind the scenes, Milan need to raise funds and lower the wage tab.
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Posted on: Aug 8 2019, 09:16 AM


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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 8 2019, 06:53 AM) *
Kessie news is confusing me.
- Offer was made by Wolverhampton at 25.6M GBP (link)
- Offer was accepted by Milan at 25M EUR (link). I could find only the one source for this story, and on another fan site there is a claim this is "fake news".

We paid around 20M at the beginning of the market, not sure if that has been amortized. If I understand how FFP accounting works, I doubt Elliot would agree to sell unless there was a reasonable plusvalenza. Of course, I am an engineer, and never really understood accounting stuff. In any case, we find out tomorrow one way or another, as EPL market closes.

I still think Kessie has potential under Giampaolo (though I know some of you disagree :-)), and he has been one of our best performers in the last couple of years Not sure I am happy with him leaving, even if he helps fund other purchases.


The 8M the club paid for a two year loan was amortized over the two years, but the outright purchase for 24M paid last month is why Kessie is on sale. The club want to remove that dent from their P&L.

This management at Milan Gazides and the President have a mandate to turn the club into profitability and in line with FFP.

Li wanted a quick turnaround and did expensive purchases that never really helped in the turnaround.

Silvio and Galliani are why we all became Milan fans, let us not discount that please. In their last years at the helm yes Milan was not what it used to be, but that was down to changing times and FFP kicking in.

Anyways whats done is done, this is a club downsizing to its reality.
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Posted on: Aug 7 2019, 09:48 PM


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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 7 2019, 02:18 AM) *
True, but bear in mind with midfields and flanks being so dominant now, going two up front and sacrificing a man in midfield and the flanks makes us vulnerable.

It's not a good way to move forward.

In short, we'll be outnumbered.


Maybe we will be outnumbered and maybe well finish 10th place ... it all depends on the coach and how well the team jells.

I for one am optimistic and cant wait to see what this new season brings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Posted on: Aug 6 2019, 09:28 PM


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Milan was one of the toughest teams out there with a 4-3-1-2 (sometimes diamond and at times Christmas tree) formation-back in the day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ... it might be dated, but it is down to the coach and ultimately if the team jells to the formation.

Its reported Suso could move to France this summer ... I hope he does (along with Silva) and make way for a star player.

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Posted on: Aug 5 2019, 06:31 PM


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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 5 2019, 06:46 PM) *
Wow, give the trequartista nonsense a rest will ya! All of you. They don't exist in football any more!


None of the players we have nor the ones we are linked with are Trequesta material. That said, Giampaolo could create something similar with Paqueta or Suso in a 4-3-1-2 formation.

I can not say more on that, as it is Giampoalo that will decide how to proceed and who to employ in the slot behind the strikers.

CC han, I did say I'm not taking anything away from the usual suspects, but I do see Milan challenging for a 2nd or 3rd place finish. So much so that I am finally renewing my cable tv subscription for this seasons Serie A. I hope it will be a good omen.

Forza Milan!
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