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Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 06:41 PM

All the Spanish La Liga 2007/08 talk here!

Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 06:57 PM

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Real make Tevez contact

Real Madrid have been in contact about West Ham United striker Carlos Tevez, according to the Argentine's agent.

Tevez's future at Upton Park remains unclear following the row which landed The Hammers with a £5.5million fine and saw Sheffield United contest the punishment.

During the closing weeks of the season, Tevez was instrumental in keeping West Ham in the Premier League, but has yet to commit his future to the club.

He recently admitted it was 'time to join a big club', with Serie A champions Internazionale declaring an interest.

Newly-crowned Spanish champions Real have also been strongly linked with a £30million bid for the former Corinthians star.

Tevez's agent Adrian Ruocco has confirmed the interest from Real, but is refusing to rule out the possibility of the fans' hero staying at Upton Park.

"There's been contact with Real Madrid," Ruocco told the Sun.

"We've been patient, but if Real don't make a concrete offer then Carlos has a lot of options.

"He has offers from Europe's biggest clubs.

"But there's no need to rule out anything, including staying at West Ham where he is settled and wanted."


http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=472496&CPID=8&clid=21&lid=3&title=Real+make+Tevez+contact


I wish them total failure!! smile.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 07:07 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 18 2007, 06:57 PM)
I wish them total failure!! smile.gif
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I think he'll go to Inter or stay in England.

Although a Nistelrooy-Tévez would be nice to see. But Madrid, more than fowards... they need wingers.

Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 07:11 PM

Madrid need a respectable president and board in general! wink.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 18 2007, 07:13 PM

Hope Athletico Madrid can finally do something good like at least qualify for the CL.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 07:22 PM



The big questions of this Summer @ La Liga:

-Who will Madrid buy with their 100M to spend? A big name coming up?
-Barcelona need changes. They'll be active in this market.
-Valencia... selling one of their stars after this year's failure? David Villa, Joaquin, Vicente, Miguel, D.Silva?
-Sevilla... can they keep Daniel Alves?
-Atletico ... Fernando Torres's future after another season without Europe?

Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 07:25 PM

Was Valencia's season really a failure? unsure.gif I don't think so...

Anyway, I think the La Liga is going to be the most interesting league market-wise this summer.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 18 2007, 07:28 PM

Quick question: Didn't Atletico make the final UEFA Cup spot this year? If so, isn't Torres more likely to stay?

Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 07:30 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 18 2007, 07:25 PM)
Was Valencia's season really a failure? unsure.gif I don't think so...
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With a better team (overall) than Sevilla finish 4th... they should be fighting for the title with Madrid and Catalonia. Too many injuries too during the season.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 18 2007, 07:28 PM)
Quick question: Didn't Atletico make the final UEFA Cup spot this year? If so, isn't Torres more likely to stay?
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No. They finished 7th. Villarreal and Zaragoza in UEFA Cup.

Posted by: misha Jun 18 2007, 07:32 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 18 2007, 09:28 PM)
Quick question: Didn't Atletico make the final UEFA Cup spot this year? If so, isn't Torres more likely to stay?
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Intertoto

Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 18 2007, 09:30 PM)
With a better team (overall) than Sevilla finish 4th... they should be fighting for the title with Madrid and Catalonia. Too many injuries too during the season.
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I meant that, considering their bad luck, it wasn't such a bad season... and 3rd place wouldn't have made much of a difference.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 18 2007, 07:46 PM

This one's a bit surprising.

[Despite his hero status from last night's game against Majorca, Jose Antonio Reyes is ready to transfer to Atletico Madrid. According to 'Radio Marca' Reyes has no intention of returning to England, Madrid don't want to sign him permanently, and he's inclined to accept a move to Atletico in order to remain in Spain.]

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=all&a=46181

Atletico Madrid In arrivo Reyes

19:42 del 18 giugno

Nonostante sia stato il protagonista della rimonta sul Maiorca, che ha permesso al Real Madrid di vincere il titolo, Josè Antonio Reyes è pronto a passare all'Atletico Madrid. Secondo 'Radio Marca' Reyes, non ha intenzione di tornare in Inghilterra, il Real Madrid non sembra volerlo riscattare e, lui pur di restare in Spagna, è disposto ad andare con i colchoneros.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 07:48 PM

Hmmm Aguero, Torres and Reyes???

Unless Torres is being unloaded. Atletico still needs mid-fielders and defenders though.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 07:49 PM

Well... Reyes solved some Madrid problems. But I think he's no started for them. They need some class in the wings like Robben or Joaquin. Players that can make really the difference. Reyes is quality but just another squad player for them.

PS: Atletico have Petrov for the LW... can't understand this one. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 07:50 PM

Reyes also plays as striker Portyboy....which could mean a move on the cards for Torres.

Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 07:50 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 18 2007, 09:49 PM)
PS: Atletico have Petrov for the LW... can't understand this one.  rolleyes.gif
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They want to make him suffer for handing Real the title!

Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2007, 07:50 PM)
Reyes also plays as striker Portyboy....which could mean a move on the cards for Torres.
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Striker? You mean... SS (a foward, not the pure striker). But he's not as good as he is as LW. He's good on the wings. Quick and with tecnique.

Torres out for Reyes? It's a possibility...

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 07:55 PM

Ok..yeah not exactly ur upfront targetman is Reyes. I don't particularly think too highly of him in the wings. His crossing is a little suspect.

But if Torres moves, I suppose Liverpool is the only option.

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 18 2007, 08:03 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2007, 07:48 PM)
Hmmm Aguero, Torres and Reyes???

Unless Torres is being unloaded. Atletico still needs mid-fielders and defenders though.
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Didn't they already sign Raul Garcia of Osasuna? Really like that guy. He's the playmaker they need desperately.
Barcelona need a ball winning midfielder. They have a lot of creative players, but they lack someone like Rhino who can't play football ball has balls.
Real....well they're going to spend big. That's certain.Maybe they'll renew their interrest in Cristiano R., Fabregas....some young star.
I don't think Valencia will let any stars go, especially Villa.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 18 2007, 07:03 PM)
I don't think Valencia will let any stars go, especially Villa.
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Agreed. They've had quite a disappointing season, they were always that little bit of the pace of the top 3. But I think alot of their players would rather stay where they are, with a chance of winning the league next season.

About Athletico. The three UEFA Cup spots go to 5th, 6th and Copa Del Rey winner.
5th and 6th have been decided, let's just say Sevilla beat Getafe. Is it the same as FA Cup where the runner up gets the spot if the winner is in Europe. Or like the Carling Cup where if the winner is already in Europe it goes to 7th in the league?

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 18 2007, 10:07 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 09:45 PM)
Agreed. They've had quite a disappointing season, they were always that little bit of the pace of the top 3. But I think alot of their players would rather stay where they are, with a chance of winning the league next season.

About Athletico. The three UEFA Cup spots go to 5th, 6th and Copa Del Rey winner.
5th and 6th have been decided, let's just say Sevilla beat Getafe. Is it the same as FA Cup where the runner up gets the spot if the winner is in Europe. Or like the Carling Cup where if the winner is already in Europe it goes to 7th in the league?
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The spot will go to Getafe. It doesn't matter if they win it or loose it. If Sevilla wins, they'll take the spot, as you said, because Sevilla already qualified for the CL....and if Getafe wins...well they're of course in the UEFA Cup.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 18 2007, 09:07 PM)
The spot will go to Getafe. It doesn't matter if they win it or loose it. If Sevilla wins, they'll take the spot, as you said, because Sevilla already qualified for the CL....and if Getafe wins...well they're of course in the UEFA Cup.
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And I thought having Millwall in the UEFA Cup was funny. But Getafe? laugh.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 19 2007, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 10:11 PM)
And I thought having Millwall in the UEFA Cup was funny. But Getafe?  laugh.gif
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Thanks to Don Schuster who humiliated Barcelona.
Anyway, reports are suggesting Calderon will fire Capello and make Schuster reals new coach. IMO a bad decision. Firing the guy that led them to their first title in years...phhhh. Schuster is good but he has to build up the squad again. That can't be good for their success IMO.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 19 2007, 10:40 AM

Schuster is better than good. But you don't fire guys that win you titles. I'd prefer to see Capello resign than be fired. I'm not the biggest fan of Madrid, I only like them winning things because it means Barca obviously haven't, but they're pretty classless. Capello deserves much better.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 19 2007, 12:24 PM

Madrid needs a ofensive coach. With likes of Robinho, Nistelrooy, Higuaín, Raúl, Guti, Reyes, possibly more ofensive players, they shouldn't play so defensively like Capello like.

I know Capello is strict and it's important for them but again... they need a ofensive coach.

I think Schuster-thing is more than a done deal.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 19 2007, 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 19 2007, 02:24 PM)
Madrid needs a ofensive coach. With likes of Robinho, Nistelrooy, Higuaín, Raúl, Guti, Reyes, possibly more ofensive players, they shouldn't play so defensively like Capello like.

I know Capello is strict and it's important for them but again... they need a ofensive coach.

I think Schuster-thing is more than a done deal.
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Yeah .. Sadly though Don Fabio wont stay on, cuz Calderon is a stupid m2ther f0cker !!!

I mean, Capello is one of (if not..) the best coaches that have ever commanded a team. His triumph (post Saachi) with Milan, was one of the best moments in Milan's history. Everywhere he went, he brought success. Roma too king.gif

Schuster (If I am to take LaPalma's idea..) will need to build a team, unlike Don Fabio, he will need at least 2 years till Madrid see another title. Cuz buying players isn't everything, the Galacticos era proved that wink.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 22 2007, 10:02 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 19 2007, 02:05 PM)
Yeah .. Sadly though Don Fabio wont stay on, cuz Calderon is a stupid m2ther f0cker !!!

I mean, Capello is one of (if not..) the best coaches that have ever commanded a team. His triumph (post Saachi) with Milan, was one of the best moments in Milan's history. Everywhere he went, he brought success. Roma too king.gif

Schuster (If I am to take LaPalma's idea..) will need to build a team, unlike Don Fabio, he will need at least 2 years till Madrid see another title. Cuz buying players isn't everything, the Galacticos era proved that wink.gif
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Should Fabio Capello leave the newly crowned La Liga champions - as is expected now - and Schuster take over, then it is clear the new boss will look to bring in some of his own players in order to prepare for their title defence next season.

One name being mentioned is that of 33 year old Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Bernd Schneider. The Bayer captain had a good World Cup with Germany, and has just had another fantastic season in the Bundesliga.

According to Bayer Leverkusen Sports director Rudi Völler: “Schneider had a great second half to the season. For me he was the Player of the Year.”

He is a hard working right sided, who can provide a steady supply of quality crosses with both feet, and also double up as a full back if need be, and representative of the philosophy Schuster would want to impose on the club.

He lined up against Real Madrid in the 2002 Champions League final - won by that magical Zidane goal - and had admitted he will listen to an offer from Los Merengues.

“I have heard of Madrid’s interest and if they want me then I would have to listen,” he is quoted as saying in ‘Express'.

Bernd Schuster himself is on record as saying “Real Madrid are missing a player like him at the moment.”

If Schneider does indeed make the move to the Bernabeu, he would follow compatriot Christoph Metzelder, and also follow in the footsteps of greats such as Günther Netzer, Paul Breitner, Bernd Schuster, and Bodo Illgner.

Well...it seems that they're already working on their new team. Schneider IMO one of the most underestimated players on earth. Although he's 33 that guy is a freakin genius and my favourite german football player. It would be hard to see Schnixx leaving the Bundesliga.

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 22 2007, 10:07 AM

Sorry...double post cause of sever problems...

Posted by: Portikins Jun 22 2007, 07:00 PM



HENRY SIGNED FOR BARCELONA - 24 MILLION EUROS.

It's everywhere.
www.marca.com ; www.as.com ; www.sport.es ; www.elmundodeportivo.es

It's done. cool.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 22 2007, 07:08 PM

Wow.

Okay, so right now Barca have WAY too many world-class strikers to keep happy. Who're they getting rid of?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 22 2007, 07:08 PM

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Arsenal are seriously fvcked for next season! biggrin.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 22 2007, 07:09 PM

It's not a high price for him.

If they'll keep the big 3 like Laporta announced a few days ago and reinforce the defence (Chivu is close) and midfield they will have a very good team.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 22 2007, 07:12 PM

I'm very disappointed.

"Who're Milan going to get, R10? Eto'o? Henry?"

None, Barca get them all and we get Suazo. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 22 2007, 07:17 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 22 2007, 07:12 PM)
I'm very disappointed.

"Who're Milan going to get, R10? Eto'o? Henry?"

None, Barca get them all and we get Suazo.  rolleyes.gif
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Still... 70 days to close the market. rolleyes.gif Just relax.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 22 2007, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 22 2007, 06:17 PM)
Still... 70 days to close the market.  rolleyes.gif Just relax.
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There are very few top class forwards now available. Unless one of R10 and Eto'o does actually leave. But I think they'll ship out Godjohnsson and Saviola instead.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 22 2007, 07:50 PM

Where's Locke_Lamora? wink.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 22 2007, 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 22 2007, 09:50 PM)
Where's Locke_Lamora?  wink.gif
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He needs time to digest it smile.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 22 2007, 08:01 PM

I don't think all the big names will stay. Not even Rijkaard is fool enough to consider starting them all and I can't see any of 'em being happy with being benched.

Posted by: mchanna Jun 22 2007, 09:27 PM

I see Gudjohnsen definitely leaving.

WHY DIDNT ANYFUCKINGBODY TELL ME mad.gif

Posted by: Locke Lamora Jun 22 2007, 10:17 PM

Don't kick a man who's already down...
But, I have to say it. Thank you for 220+ goals, Thierry, thank you for 2 championships, three FA-cups and our first CL-final. Thank you.
I wish you luck at Barcelona, and I hope youl'l finally win the CL there.

Thank you.

Posted by: arivanjj Jun 23 2007, 12:51 AM

surely R10 or Eto' must leave... it just doesn't work!

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 23 2007, 08:36 AM

Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Messi will all be playing for Barca next season. Even if Henry deal goes through.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 23 2007, 12:36 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 23 2007, 08:36 AM)
Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Messi will all be playing for Barca next season. Even if Henry deal goes through.
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I thought Henry was coming to Milan. wink.gif

Anyway...



Reports in Spain says Liverpool will probably sign Torres next week for 36M/euros or less but with a player (Garcia or Cisse) in the deal.

Posted by: misha Jun 23 2007, 02:42 PM

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Henry: Why I Left Arsenal For Barcelona

Thierry Henry has revealed that he quit Arsenal to join Barcelona because he could not face life at the Emirates Stadium without David Dein and Arsene Wenger.

Former vice-chairman Dein has already left the club and Wenger has yet to start negotiations over extending his contract which expires next summer.

A £16 million fee for Henry has been agreed with Barcelona, and the Frenchman will have a medical with the club on Monday.

In an open letter to fans published in The Sun, he said: "Arsene has been part of my life for as long as I can remember.

"Unfortunately and understandably he has said that at this moment he will not commit to the club past the expiration of his current deal which finishes at the end of the coming season.

"I respect his decision and his honesty but I will be 31 at the end of next season and I cannot take the chance to be there without Arsene Wenger and David Dein.

"This is solely my decision, no-one has forced me to do anything and I will represent myself in this transaction. I feel it is something I just had to do."

Henry, who has agreed a four-year deal, added: "Barcelona are a wonderful club steeped in tradition and play beautiful football. I'm sure I will be very happy there.

"But I will miss the Arsenal fans dearly, they have supported me through thick and thin.

"They will always be in my heart, as will all the fans who make the game here so special. I will always have a special bond with Arsenal Football Club.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 23 2007, 02:57 PM

I get the feeling this isnt the only player the catalans are gonna sign

Posted by: Portikins Jun 23 2007, 03:14 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 23 2007, 02:57 PM)
I get the feeling this isnt the only player the catalans are gonna sign
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Yaya Toure and Chivu are almost done deals for them.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 23 2007, 03:15 PM

Oh, almost certainly not. Barca management types were in Rome yesterday meeting with the Sensi family to discuss Chivu's transfer. Especially with the injury to Puyol, they REALLY need defenders. They're apparently offering rather a lot for Chivu too. (12 m euros + a player)

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 23 2007, 03:47 PM

Barca will have quite a lethal attacking force consisting of Messi, Henry and Eto'o, but if Berlusconi has anything to say, so do we, or more we will do

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 24 2007, 01:40 AM

I know it's more of an 06/07 thing but..

Sevilla beat Getafe earlier today 1-0 in the Copa Del Rey.

Kanoute scored the only goal of the game after 11 minutes, getting sent off for retaliating to a foul in the dying minutes.

European Super Cup
UEFA Cup
Copa Del Rey

Quite a year for my Sevilla. cool.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 24 2007, 08:41 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 24 2007, 03:40 AM)
Quite a year for my Sevilla.  cool.gif
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Milan will give them a beating in the Super cup devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 24 2007, 10:19 AM

Hmm...I wonder if Sevilla are buying anyone. Reyes is looking good for them.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 24 2007, 01:36 PM

Calciomercato is reporting that Chivu will go to Barca for 12 million + Giuly.

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=all&a=46720

They're also reporting that because of Van Nistlerooy's injury, Madrid are looking for another striker. (Could we give them Oliveira for someone?)

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=all&a=46729

Posted by: dst Jun 24 2007, 01:56 PM

Oliveira + cash for Gago!!!

Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...

Posted by: weeeow Jun 24 2007, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 24 2007, 01:56 PM)
Oliveira + cash for Gago!!!

Good deal for Barcelona! And better for us that he's not going Inter...
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Amen to that!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 24 2007, 10:02 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 24 2007, 09:19 AM)
Hmm...I wonder if Sevilla are buying anyone. Reyes is looking good for them.
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I think Reyes is a good player, but he left us against our will to move on to bigger and better things. He can forget it. dry.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 26 2007, 12:06 AM

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Atletico Madrid have denied reports that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Fernando Torres.

Reports over the last few days have suggested Liverpool were planning a move for the Spanish international.

It had been claimed Liverpool were ready to break their transfer record to sign Torres in a £25million deal.

Torres' future at Atletico is up in the air after another disappointing campaign at the Vicente Calderon last season.

The 23-year-old is believed to be considering moving on for a new challenge, but Atletico president Enrique Cerezo says they have received no offers for the talented forward.

"We've received no offer from Liverpool or any other club or player," said Cerezo.

"There is nothing linking Torres with any team. He's on holidays, he's resting and he'll return to work on July 9.

"All the players have a (buy-out) clause in their contract and in that case we would not be able to do anything, but I repeat that there has been nothing about Torres from any team.

"We are now working to create a good team for the coming year."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=473781&CPID=23&clid=175&lid=2&title=Atletico+deny+Torres+rumours&channel=football_home&

If he's got a buy out clause, that's not as ridiculous as Messi's, then he's a goner.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 26 2007, 12:10 AM

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Barcelona have announced the signing of Yaya Toure from Monaco.
Toure arrived in Barcelona for talks on Sunday and he has agreed personal terms and passed a medical at Camp Nou.

Barca have been chasing Toure for some time and they are believed to have paid €12million (£8million) for the Ivory Coast international.

Toure, who is the younger brother of Arsenal's Kolo, is regarded as one of the best young players in Europe.

The 24-year-old is Barca's second signing of the summer following the high-profile capture of Thierry Henry.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=473845&CPID=23&clid=178&lid=10&title=Barca+tie+up+Toure+deal

Don't really know what to say. He was decent at the World Cup, that's all I've seen.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 26 2007, 12:29 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 26 2007, 12:06 AM)
If he's got a buy out clause, that's not as ridiculous as Messi's, then he's a goner.
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40 million euros. rolleyes.gif

(Yeah... only 40M for a 23 yo amazing star + european + class)

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 26 2007, 01:49 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 25 2007, 05:29 PM)
40 million euros.  rolleyes.gif

(Yeah... only 40M for a 23 yo amazing star + european + class)
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cool.gif

I hope to God he goes to Man U though.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 26 2007, 12:55 PM

From the club website:
COMUNICATO UFFICIALE A.C. MILAN
26/06/2007
MILANO - L'A.C. Milan comunica di aver ceduto a titolo temporaneo il calciatore Christian Abbiati all'Atletico Madrid fino al 30 giugno 2008.

[Abbiati is going to Atletico Madrid for a year.]

Posted by: dst Jun 26 2007, 01:20 PM

Abbiati will be loaned to Atletico or what?

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 26 2007, 02:10 AM)
Don't really know what to say. He was decent at the World Cup, that's all I've seen.
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He's very good!

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 03:49 AM)
I hope to God he goes to Man U though.
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??

Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?

Posted by: Tennie Jun 26 2007, 01:35 PM

Yep, it's a 1 year loan to Atletico for Abbiati. I'm a little surprised; I'd thought he would stay at Torino.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 26 2007, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 01:20 PM)
??

Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
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I think pKill meant... "if not Milan" then M.United.

TBH I think Torres would fit better in Liverpool as they'd have the spanish community and friends (already know them, from the NT) there.

Posted by: dst Jun 26 2007, 05:56 PM

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I Will Take Every Cent Madrid Owe Me - Capello 

Fabio Capello has insisted that if Real Madrid sack him, they will have to pay every cent of his salary for the next two years.

"It is a hypothesis that could become true," he admitted, speaking to AS during an interview, when asked about a possible sack.

"I am going on vacation. I will be in Tibet and China, and I am sure I will have plenty of time to think about my future."

"The president can decide whatever he wants," he continued. "If he has chosen Schuster, that is his business.

"As far as I know, I am going to respect my three year contract.

"I they sack me, they will have to pay me, and I will make sure I take the last cent."

Asked to comment on Ramon Calderon's performance, he chose to bite his lip, though.

"The judgement on Calderon, I will pass when I return from my long vacations."

It is expected that Capello will be given the sack in the coming days, as soon as Bernd Schuster wriggles out of his Getafe contract. Comments from Don Fabio seem to suggest that he himself is resigned to his fate.


http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=337005


You deserve it Fabio! smile.gif

Don't you ever give them a title again though cause I'm gonna hate you!

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 26 2007, 06:48 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 06:20 AM)
Why? Wouldn't you want him at Milan? Do you think he wouldn't make it?
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Yes, just name me one Spanish player who made it big in Serie A. I think he just fits Man U better than any other team. Liverpool do have a lot of Spanish players, but they play horrible football. Torres is a player who enjoy his football. He is very fast and very technical and he would fit in very well with the likes of Ronaldo, Rooney and Giggs in Man U. But there is a part of me that would still give an arm to see him play for us... wub.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 26 2007, 06:58 PM

Random thought during lunch: rumor has it that Barca are getting rid of Deco this transfer season. They've signed Henry, Toure, (probably) Chivu, etc. But no playmakers.

I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.

Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 26 2007, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 26 2007, 11:58 AM)
Random thought during lunch: rumor has it that Barca are getting rid of Deco this transfer season. They've signed Henry, Toure, (probably) Chivu, etc. But no playmakers.

I think that this may be a serious mistake. Deco is very important to Barca -- he's the one who dictates play and who gets the ball forward to the big guns. When he doesn't play well, the whole team looks off. Having no Deco (even an off-form one) next year along with all those strikers...makes me wonder wtf the Barca leadership are thinking.

Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
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They will be trying to give first team play to the very very talented Iniesta. Plus Ronaldinho will concentrate more on play-making now that Barca have Henry and Eto'o together. There is always Xavi too who is finding his form again. They'll be more than fin attacking/ creating-wise. But they still don't have a decent defensive midfielder and that's gonna hurt them unless they sign someone.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 26 2007, 07:42 PM

I always liked Torres, and i reiterate my desire to get him

But can he adapt to Serie A? Only one way to find out

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 26 2007, 08:57 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 26 2007, 09:42 PM)
I always liked Torres, and i reiterate my desire to get him

But can he adapt to Serie A? Only one way to find out
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Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club ..

Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.

In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 26 2007, 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 26 2007, 01:57 PM)
Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club ..

Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.

In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
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That's my concern too. But don't you ever bring Oli and Jose Mari in the same sentence as him... Torres is simply class. Much better than Villa. Just watch him move with the ball. His elegance, leadership and maturity kind of remind of.... I don't wanna say!! ohmy.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 26 2007, 09:30 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 08:48 PM)
Yes, just name me one Spanish player who made it big in Serie A.
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I don't think a Spanish player of his qualities has ever stepped foot on, as channel4 like to say, the peninsula...

He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ...

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 26 2007, 08:58 PM)
Am I making sense? Or am I a few fries short of a Happy Meal?
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I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 26 2007, 09:32 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 02:30 PM)
I don't think a Spanish player of his qualities has ever stepped foot on, as channel4 like to say, the peninsula...

He would be great in my opinion. I think he has just as many possibilities to succeed in Serie A as every other player out there... including our targets R20, Eto'o, ...
I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
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Stop it! You are breaking my heart... I want to justify him not coming somehow... cry.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 26 2007, 09:55 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 26 2007, 11:32 PM)
Stop it! You are breaking my heart... I want to justify him not coming somehow... cry.gif
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Who? Torres? Serie A is certainly not the place for him! He should better stay away...


... tongue.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 26 2007, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 02:55 PM)
Who? Torres? Serie A is certainly not the place for him! He should better stay away...
...  tongue.gif
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I feel better already. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 26 2007, 10:12 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 26 2007, 09:30 PM)
I agree. Deco is for Barcelona one of the, if not the, greatest cogs in their machine. The others are doing the tricks, he's doing the hard work. They wouldn't have done it so good if he wasn't there!
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And if they sell Deco to go for Lampard or so... I'd say it's a huge mistake. Lampard is nowhere near Deco in tecnique and in "diving" (important in La Liga).

Anyway... I hope so. biggrin.gif Just hope too that Deco does not join Inter.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 26 2007, 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 26 2007, 07:57 PM)
Can we afford having another Oliveira or Jose Mari incedent ?! I think after waiting on Gilardino to become consistent .. The club should look for someone with a bit more experience at playing at a top club ..

Though I still regard Torres as a high quality player .. There are ONLY two cons to bringing him, they are; him being Spanish and him being at an average club.

In this case .. I would rather go with at the very least Shevchenko. At least he has proven what he can do.
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Getting him would be risky as there could be a million reasons why he can fail

On the other side he does have qualties needed and there is a good chance he can succeed

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 26 2007, 11:54 PM

Your right about that .. And believe me, I really see a future for Torres at top club level. But at the same time, I think about it, then think of Gilardino .. I mean, I think what we need to challenge for all 5 competitions next season is someone who can put on his scoring boots and gets down to business, the closest there is to that is Shevchenko. But this is my assumption, and Torres could very well be a solution for our attack as much as he can be a liability just as Gilardino. This is what I ment ..

In anycase, I wouldn't mind Torres in a Milan shirt. I have always been a fan, just a bit skeptical ont he issue 'if he can adapt..'

Posted by: Tennie Jun 27 2007, 12:08 AM

I like Torres too. But...well, my concern is that he'll have the same sort of adaptation problems to Serie A that Oliveira had. The styles of play between Serie A and La Liga are different, especially for the strikers. I'm just not sure he could make the transition. sad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 27 2007, 01:41 AM

I have noticed that English, Spanish and Italian strikers generally only play well in their home league. Just look at the NTs of these three countries. 90% of the players are home based.

They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.

Maybe that's me that thinks that. huh.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 27 2007, 01:56 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 03:41 AM)
They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.

Maybe that's me that thinks that.  huh.gif
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Not many world class players from the 'big 3' are trying to move. Why should they? They are already playing in a big league, big teams and it's close to home.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 27 2007, 02:06 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 12:56 AM)
Not many world class players from the 'big 3' are trying to move. Why should they? They are already playing in a big league, big teams and it's close to home.
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No, I know what you're saying. Those that have don't end up too great though. Here's a few examples: (They're not all stars, but you get the idea.)

Robbie Keane: Premiership player, tried his luck with Inter. Failed miserably.
Fernando Morientes: Prolific with both Madrid and Valencia, couldn't buy a goal at Liverpool.
Bernardo Corradi: He was decent enough at Parma and Lazio, but went abroad with Valencia (Spain) and Man City (England) and didn't really hit it off.

I find Dutch players seem to have the best 'adaptability', they have players doing very well in Spain/England/Germany/Italy. I'd like to see us enter the Dutch market, Huntelaar inparticular. Highly doubt we will though. sad.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 27 2007, 02:34 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 04:06 AM)
Here's a few examples: (They're not all stars, but you get the idea.)
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Morientes is a good player, Corradi and Keane are sh!t.

Becham did o.k, Owen never got the opportunity, Mcmanaman played good only in his first season. Alonso is great (and the rest Spanish colony in Pool are o.k), Viery was superb in his only season in Spain. Also Vialli, Zola Ravanelli (spelling) were good. Cannavaro was average ... There are another few examples but not enough to tell something specific.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 27 2007, 02:40 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 01:34 AM)
Morientes is a good player, Corradi and Keane are sh!t.

Becham did o.k, Owen never got the opportunity, Mcmanaman played good only in his first season. Alonso is great (and the rest Spanish colony in Pool are o.k), Viery was superb in his only season in Spain. Also Vialli, Zola Ravanelli (spelling) were good. Cannavaro was average ... There are another few examples but not enough to tell something specific.
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I suppose you're right. Though I believe a truly great player can go anywhere, regardless of how their team/opponents play.

Ruud van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo are the two guys I'd pick at the moment, they've scored a shed load of goals wherever they've gone.

Posted by: misha Jun 27 2007, 02:50 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 04:40 AM)
I suppose you're right. Though I believe a truly great player can go anywhere, regardless of how their team/opponents play.
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It depends on so many things. For example no one can say that Sheva or Henry aren't a great players, but sometimes, for different reasons, some things go wrong.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 27 2007, 12:02 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 01:41 AM)
They all find it equally hard to adapt to each others league. Which is why Torres may prosper in Liverpool, since it's half Spanish anyways.

Maybe that's me that thinks that.  huh.gif
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Half Spanish? How so? huh.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 27 2007, 12:52 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 11:02 AM)
Half Spanish? How so? huh.gif
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Well, the manager, and most of the players are Spanish and/or Spanish speaking.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 27 2007, 11:46 PM

Marca announced tonight that Capello and his staff were fired.

Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 27 2007, 11:50 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 10:46 PM)
Marca announced tonight that Capello and his staff were fired.

Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
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Well that's just dumb. They've lost Becks and Capello, how're they going ti win a league title now? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 12:05 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 27 2007, 11:50 PM)
Well that's just dumb. They've lost Becks and Capello, how're they going ti win a league title now?  rolleyes.gif
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With Robben and Dani Alves. wink.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 28 2007, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 02:05 AM)
With Robben and Dani Alves.  wink.gif
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Not enough I'm affraid .. They lost Beckham - a well experienced player. And bring in Robben, a 23 year old. They need an experienced player more than anymore young players. But that is just me rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 28 2007, 12:57 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 01:46 AM)
Marca announced tonight that Capello and his staff were fired.

Tomorrow official. Schuster to be presented on the next days.
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That's just show you how pathetic they are.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 28 2007, 12:16 AM)
Not enough I'm affraid .. They lost Beckham - a well experienced player. And bring in Robben, a 23 year old. They need an experienced player more than anymore young players. But that is just me rolleyes.gif
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Imagine...


---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------


With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.

Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 28 2007, 12:57 AM)
That's just show you how pathetic they are.
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They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 28 2007, 01:21 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 27 2007, 07:16 PM)
Imagine...
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.

Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
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marcelo is their replacement for R.carlos... i dunno why would they get drenth?

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 01:27 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 28 2007, 01:21 AM)
marcelo is their replacement for R.carlos... i dunno why would they get drenth?
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Drenthe it's a recent rumour. Marcelo could be loaned, he's still very young. 18 I think... so it's difficult for him to play in such a big club.

Drenthe is 20 and more agressive than Marcelo. Just like him, the dutch can play as left-wing. Not just LB.

But... fvck me. Robben and Dani Alves on the wings would run any defense crazy.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 28 2007, 01:28 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM)
Imagine...
---------------- Nistelrooy------------------
-Robben--------Robinho-------D.Alves---
-------------Diarra-----Gago--------------
Drenthe-Cannavaro-Metzelder-S.Ramos
-------------------Casillas------------------
With Robben, Alves and Drenthe (80M/euros max in all of them). Sorry but this is a fvckin' great side.

Of course I'm just making this team up looking at the rumours (the 3 players above).
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
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I can imagine that .. As it does seem like a brilliant attacking formation wink.gif

But look at the players, only Casillas, Nistelrooy and Cannavaro bring the experience to the side (Though there is Raul and co. .. I am going by what Carlos said, that Madrid are getting rid of the experienced players and replacing them with younger players). I mean, knowing Madrid, I wouldn't be surprised if they did sign those 3 players, as rumored. But they need more than those 3, they need experience, if they can sign one or two experienced players, they will be all set to become eventual rivals for the CL ..

Robben's transfer would make Calderon stop nagging about Kaka' .. Obviouslly I am for this move. biggrin.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 28 2007, 01:29 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM)
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
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They did it to Del Bosque and haven't won a title in 4 yaers after that.

I wasn't talking about that. I mean this kinda thing you won't see at Milan. He got them a title after a long drought and they just throw him out like that? Total lack of respect and professionalism. Because his footbal wasn't attractive enough? Please... They are only thinking about money and have no values. The won't ever be like Milan (no matter how CL they won).

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 01:30 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 28 2007, 01:28 AM)
Robben's transfer would make Calderon stop nagging about Kaka' .. Obviouslly I am for this move.  biggrin.gif
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I really hope they go for Robben (20? 30? 40M?) and D.Alves (30M?). That means no Kaka' this Summer... wink.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 28 2007, 01:30 AM

*perk* Drenthe can play left back AND left wing? Er. Someone should tell Fester!

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 01:33 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 28 2007, 01:30 AM)
*perk* Drenthe can play left back AND left wing? Er. Someone should tell Fester!
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Errr... Drenthe is 20. Not 30. wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 28 2007, 01:33 AM

Can anybody say Arsenal?

Top proven striker, very young team. Doomed to fail.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 01:36 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 28 2007, 01:33 AM)
Can anybody say Arsenal?

Top proven striker, very young team. Doomed to fail.
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Comparing Arsenal to Madrid?

Water and wine... like Lazio to Milan.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 28 2007, 03:11 AM

I don't think it matters who they sign.

Without Beckham they wouldn't have come close to winning the league, he made about 6 assists in the last 3 games. rolleyes.gif

People always think Madrid need an attacking coach to match their attacking payers, that's a big mistake. You need a defensive coach, you're attacking players are going to do what's naturel to them anyways and go forward. At least with a defensive coach you're going to set up and equipped better to defend.

Just like it worked with Capello both times, it's no coincidence. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 28 2007, 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 03:16 AM)
They did in 97 and dominated Europe on the following years.
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And??

It won't happen again!

Posted by: Portikins Jun 28 2007, 11:54 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 28 2007, 11:45 AM)
And??

It won't happen again!
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You never know. Just look how we won this year's CL... after Calciocaos, after Shevchenko departure, without Ronaldo... when nobody expected. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 28 2007, 11:55 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 01:54 PM)
You never know. Just look how we won this year's CL... after Calciocaos, after Shevchenko departure, without Ronaldo... when nobody expected.  rolleyes.gif
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It wouldn't be unexpected for Real to win the CL next season... especially if they make some good transfers this summer.

You'd really like to see the whole thing repeated... I myself hope they fail miserably!

Posted by: m1ke Jun 28 2007, 01:41 PM

I wonder if he annoyed the board by suggesting that Real could never get Kaka whilst under contract to Milan cool.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Jun 28 2007, 01:55 PM

Capello axed by Real!

Real Madrid have parted company with Fabio Capello less than a fortnight after he led them to their first La Liga title in four years.

The news comes as little surprise after weeks of speculation in the Spanish Press, but it still seems a strange move by the European giants after their League success last term.

Bernd Schuster seems almost certain to replace the ex-Juve tactician after being released from his contract with Getafe yesterday.

In spite of his eventual success at the Bernabeu, Capello failed to win the hearts of the fans due to his brand of pragmatic football and he had several public spats with President Ramon Calderon.

Today’s announcement was vague as to the reason for the first dismissal of Don Fabio’s impressive career.

“The directors at Real Madrid are grateful for all that has been achieved over the past season, but have decided not to continue with Capello as Coach,” director of sport Pedja Mijatovic explained.

“We don’t think that he is the right person to continue our project.”

Capello’s future remains unclear, but he has suggested in recent weeks that the Real Madrid job may be his last in management.


http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun28h.html

Posted by: Tennie Jun 28 2007, 02:05 PM

Hrm. Madrid have also gotten rid of Franco Baldini. (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=64896)

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Posted by: Tennie Jun 28 2007, 04:58 PM

The Spanish press is reporting that Villareal has sold Riquelme & Forlan to Atletico.

Looks like El Nino will be learning Scouse. smile.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 28 2007, 05:06 PM

Bad for him!! I can't wish him to fail cause that would annoy Max so I just wish he scores a lot... but he doesn't win anything!

Good deal for Atlético (Riquelme & Forlán)! If Agüero also develops as expected then they'll have a decent squad next season!! smile.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 28 2007, 05:10 PM

Villa's summer is going even better than Milan's.

Hughes, Samuel, McCann out.

Forlan, Sneijder, Drenthe, Reo-Coker, Nugent, Barton and Babel have all either been sold or won't come. What's the point of having a billionnaire owner if no one will join you. sad.gif

Great news for Athletico though. They're going to have some serious players in an attacking sense. Forlan, Aguero, Petrov, Maxi, Riquelme. ohmy.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 29 2007, 12:07 AM

Abidal is almost a Barcelona player... could that mean Zambrotta's way out is now open?? I hope so... and I hope Milan get him if that's really the case!

Getafe say Schuster has not been released as reported earlier today... unsure.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 29 2007, 12:26 AM

QUOTE
Barcelona Confirm Abidal Capture

FC Barcelona have announced that they have agreed to sign Éric Abidal from Olympique Lyonnais as their summer rebuilding programme continues at full tilt.

The French international revealed that he will complete his medical tomorrow, before signing a four year contract, after the club had stated that a deal had been reached.

After spending several days in the Catalan capital, Abidal will become the Blaugrana's third signing of the summer after Thierry Henry and Yaya Touré were presented earlier this week.

The 27-year-old said officially that he was on holiday in Barcelona, but in reality he was waiting for negotiations with Lyon to be resolved and a deal to be announced.

"The negotiations have been long but now it's done and I'm very happy to play for Barcelona," he told Barça TV.

"Tomorrow morning (Friday) I will undergo a medical and then sign for the club.

"I have spent the last few days in Barcelona on holiday This has allowed me to familiarise myself with the city, the character of the place and the culture of the people."

Abidal won three consecutive French league titles with Lyon following his move from Lille in 2004 and he is an established member of the national team.

Barça have been long-time admirers of the full-back and lengthy negotiations saw the Catalan giants force the fee down.

Lyon originally wanted around €20m, while Barça opened with a bid of €12m before the two sides reached a deal this week.

Posted by: misha Jun 29 2007, 12:29 AM

QUOTE
The 27-year-old said officially that he was on holiday in Barcelona, but in reality he was waiting for negotiations with Lyon to be resolved and a deal to be announced.

"I have spent the last few days in Barcelona on holiday This has allowed me to familiarise myself with the city, the character of the place and the culture of the people

R10 doing the same ? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 29 2007, 12:44 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 29 2007, 12:07 AM)
Abidal is almost a Barcelona player... could that mean Zambrotta's way out is now open?? I hope so... and I hope Milan get him if that's really the case!

Hum. Zambrotta's agent denied any Milan or Roma link so I doubt.

-------------------------------------------
Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------

If you take out Valdes biggrin.gif ... you'll have a strong defensive side.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 29 2007, 02:26 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 11:44 PM)
Hum. Zambrotta's agent denied any Milan or Roma link so I doubt.

-------------------------------------------
Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------

If you take out Valdes  biggrin.gif ... you'll have a strong defensive side.
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Abidal? huh.gif

I thought he was the weak link at the World Cup for France, I'd put him in the 'awful' category myself. unsure.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 29 2007, 02:44 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 04:26 AM)
Abidal?  huh.gif

I thought he was the weak link at the World Cup for France, I'd put him in the 'awful' category myself.  unsure.gif
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Actually Abidal is one of the best lb around. Good buy for Barca

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 29 2007, 02:49 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 27 2007, 07:29 PM)
They did it to Del Bosque and haven't won a title in 4 yaers after that.

I wasn't talking about that. I mean this kinda thing you won't see at Milan. He got them a title after a long drought and they just throw him out like that? Total lack of respect and professionalism. Because his footbal wasn't attractive enough? Please... They are only thinking about money and have no values. The won't ever be like Milan (no matter how CL they won).
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they did it with hierro too :rolleyes.... what a bunch of dirty ingrates puke.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 29 2007, 02:51 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 28 2007, 06:44 PM)
Hum. Zambrotta's agent denied any Milan or Roma link so I doubt.

-------------------------------------------
Abidal - Marquez - Puyol - Zambrotta
---------------- Valdes -----------------

If you take out Valdes  biggrin.gif ... you'll have a strong defensive side.
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it's more like

Abidal - Chivu - Puyol - Zambrotta

and a guy like marquez as a sub ... pretty damn good

Posted by: misha Jun 29 2007, 02:55 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 29 2007, 04:49 AM)
they did it with hierro too :rolleyes.... what a bunch of dirty ingrates puke.gif
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Yeah, that was low too. Another thing that won't happen at Milan.

Posted by: dst Jun 29 2007, 01:30 PM

QUOTE
Real join Chivu race 
Friday 29 June, 2007

Real Madrid are reportedly ready to present an £11m offer to snatch Roma defender Cristian Chivu away from Barcelona.

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 29 2007, 04:55 PM

QUOTE
Kevin-Prince Boateng hat bestätigt, dass er beim spanischen Pokalsieger und UEFA-Cup-Gewinner FC Sevilla auf der Wunschliste steht, und scheint einem Wechsel nicht abgeneigt. "Es gibt Interesse vom FC Sevilla", sagte Herthas Mittelfeldspieler am Freitagnachmittag kicker online. "Dieser Klub ist eine Top-Adresse in Europa."

by http://www.kicker.de/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/367257/
It says that Maresca is set to leave Sevilla to to go back to Italy. And that Sevilla wants to sign Kevin Prince Boateng (German U21 international) of Hertha BSC Berlin. IMO a very talented player. I dunno if it's already enough for Sevilla but he's defintely more talented than Maresca (not a better player though).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 29 2007, 04:56 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 29 2007, 03:55 PM)
by http://www.kicker.de/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/367257/
It says that Maresca is set to leave Sevilla to to go back to Italy. And that Sevilla wants to sign Kevin Prince Boateng (German U21 international) of Hertha BSC Berlin. IMO a very talented player. I dunno if it's already enough for Sevilla but he's defintely more talented than Maresca (not a better player though).
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I'm assuming he plays the same sort of role as Enzo?

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 29 2007, 05:08 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 04:56 PM)
I'm assuming he plays the same sort of role as Enzo?
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Yap. He can play almost every position in the central midfield. As DM, CM and OM.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 29 2007, 05:10 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 29 2007, 04:08 PM)
Yap. He can play almost every position in the central midfield. As DM, CM and OM.
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Good, good. smile.gif

Maresca's been pretty key for us over the last few years, I think it was inevitable he was going to return to Italy at some point. At least We've lined up a replacement immediately. cool.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 30 2007, 02:20 PM

Forlan (Villarreal) just signed for Atletico Madrid - 21M/euros.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 30 2007, 02:24 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 30 2007, 01:20 PM)
Forlan (Villarreal) just signed for Atletico Madrid - 21M/euros.
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Good signing, Forlan warned Athletico he wouldn't move there to be a 'Torres backup'.

So that just about confirms Torres' exit.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 30 2007, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 30 2007, 02:24 PM)
Good signing, Forlan warned Athletico he wouldn't move there to be a 'Torres backup'.

So that just about confirms Torres' exit.
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Not yet... not yet. wink.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 30 2007, 04:08 PM

That is a ridiculous price (of Forlan)! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 30 2007, 05:08 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 30 2007, 04:08 PM)
That is a ridiculous price (of Forlan)!  ohmy.gif
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He's sh!t IMO but in Spain he scored lot of goals. The numbers are there. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 30 2007, 05:15 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 30 2007, 06:08 PM)
That is a ridiculous price (of Forlan)!  ohmy.gif
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It's more than that. It's an outrages price. 21mil? What the f@ck were they thinking?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 30 2007, 06:51 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 30 2007, 04:15 PM)
It's more than that. It's an outrages price. 21mil? What the f@ck were they thinking?
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Well, I'm not sure how correct this is, but Villa were interested in him and Villarreal were not exactly keen on selling him. If I remember correctly he had a buy-out clause of just under £15m (E21m = £14m) so it could be the case. Maybe Forlan was they guy they saw who could replace Torres' goal haul per season. So maybe he left Villarreal, who were unwilling to sell, with Athletico activating this clause?

They probably wanted somebody proven in Spain, there aren't many others, especially with Kanoute commiting to Sevilla. king.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 30 2007, 07:10 PM

I have to say I really admire Torres' own approach of the whole sage, he has rarely come out to say anything that could complicate things! smile.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 1 2007, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 30 2007, 09:10 PM)
I have to say I really admire Torres' own approach of the whole sage, he has rarely come out to say anything that could complicate things! smile.gif
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And he has not lied wink.gif

Though the Atletico fans see him more of the Maldini or their team rather than the Shevchenko of their team, if u get what I mean rolleyes.gif He is everything to the Atletico fans cool.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 2 2007, 07:29 PM

QUOTE
Inter And Madrid Set For Diarra-Adriano Talks

The Corriere dello Sport are reporting that Inter Milan and Real Madrid are ready to begin discussions over a swap deal involving Adriano and Mahamadou Diarra.

Following’s Suazo signing, Inter are now focusing on finalising Cristian Chivu’s transfer, so that they can move on and focus on strengthening the midfield department.

The idea is that if Inter would not manage to net a playmaker who could substitute Figo, then president Moratti would follow coach Roberto Mancini’s advice to chase Real Madrid’s Mahamadou Diarria.

It is understood that Real Madrid could be willing to sell him, only on the condition that Inter would offer Adriano in return.

In fact, the Merengues are in search for a striker would could make up for Van Nistelrooy, who is currently out injured.

The Dutchman will miss the pre-season, and return only just in time for the start of the La Liga season, and the doctors have advised against playing him twice a week at least until October, if not November.

Inter and Real Madrid officials are set to meet soon in order to discuss the transfer.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 2 2007, 07:47 PM

Haha Corriere! laugh.gif

After Makelele-mistake, I doubt Real Madrid will sell the best defensive midfielder in the world.

Posted by: dst Jul 2 2007, 07:55 PM

Why... is he a selling any jerseys?? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 2 2007, 08:06 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 2 2007, 07:55 PM)
Why... is he a selling any jerseys??  rolleyes.gif
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The new Real Madrid kit is so ugly that not even Robben would sell a shirt. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 2 2007, 08:09 PM

So they're not getting Robben!? biggrin.gif What about Kaka? Could he sell some? rolleyes.gif

By the way... how ugly can it be, it's white!? unsure.gif Do you have a picture of it?

Posted by: Portikins Jul 2 2007, 10:00 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 2 2007, 08:09 PM)
So they're not getting Robben!? biggrin.gif What about Kaka? Could he sell some?  rolleyes.gif

By the way... how ugly can it be, it's white!? unsure.gif Do you have a picture of it?
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Last year was WAY better.

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http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/1012242.html

Marca says Madrid is about to hijack Chivu from Inter and Barcelona. I'll laugh really loud if this happens since 5 days ago Moratti said "Chivu - 50% in Inter". (http://www.repubblica.it/2007/06/sezioni/sport/calcio/calciomercato-28-giu/calciomercato-28-giu/calciomercato-28-giu.html)

Posted by: dst Jul 2 2007, 10:07 PM

Blue stripes? That could be my country's shirt... wtf!?

Well... Moratti said 50%... that means the chance was even... let's not laugh at him even when he actually thinks before he speaks! biggrin.gif

ps You can now burn that thing above! dry.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jul 2 2007, 10:11 PM

That Madrid shirt looks more a Greece shirt

Robben, is too ugly to sell anything.

And has Garcia moved to Athletico yet

Posted by: Portikins Jul 2 2007, 10:13 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jul 2 2007, 10:11 PM)
And has Garcia moved to Athletico yet
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His agent said it will be official by tomorrow or so.

L.Garcia (I didn't know he's 29 ohmy.gif ) in Atletico and Fernando Torres in Liverpool to be official in some hours/days. Done deals.

Posted by: misha Jul 3 2007, 09:36 PM

QUOTE
Bronzetti Reveals Roma-Madrid Agreement Over Chivu

Fifa agent Ernesto Bronzetti, who was a part of the negotiations between AS Roma and Real Madrid, has claimed that the two parties have reached an agreement.

An 18 million euro deal had reportedly been agreed this morning before Pedja Mijatovic decided to cloud the issue by claiming that the Merengue club yet had made no official offer.

"The two clubs will have to hold more talks," Mijatovic had said. "There is still nothing more now though.

"We may need another meeting, I do not know.

"Chivu is a great player and there a quite a few teams that are interested. We will have to see what happens.

"There has been no offer, though."

However, Bronzetti has just confirmed that a deal has indeed been struck, and the transfer will go ahead if Chivu gives the nod.

"Real Madrid and Roma have agreed that Chivu will be sold for 18 million euros," he said. "Now it is for Chivu to decide."

Posted by: Portikins Jul 3 2007, 09:39 PM

Time for Chivu "do a Suazo". rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 09:40 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 08:39 PM)
Time for Chivu "do a Suazo".  rolleyes.gif
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I think Chivu is a great player and would love to see him stay in Italy. Even if it means seeing him wearing Blue and Black next season.

Posted by: dst Jul 3 2007, 09:46 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 11:40 PM)
I think Chivu is a great player and would love to see him stay in Italy. Even if it means seeing him wearing Blue and Black next season.
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Do you want Milan to win the Scudetto or not?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 09:49 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 3 2007, 08:46 PM)
Do you want Milan to win the Scudetto or not?
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I don't see it changing anything.

What they gain defensively with Chivu, they'll lose offensively with Grosso.

Posted by: dst Jul 3 2007, 09:52 PM

That is if Grosso goes... but it's not just that. Chivu is a world-class defender, much better than anyone else Inter have (better than your lovely dumb_ss!) and Roma will be left with Mexes and Juan... they're both good (the Brazilian is much better IMO) but I think the combination of the two won't be a big success...

Posted by: Portikins Jul 3 2007, 09:56 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 09:49 PM)
I don't see it changing anything.

What they gain defensively with Chivu, they'll lose offensively with Grosso.
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Grosso is sh!t. The most overrated player I know. Even more than Lampard.

The guy simply sucks. Would be benched in Porto or Benfica.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 08:56 PM)
Grosso is sh!t. The most overrated player I know. Even more than Lampard.

The guy simply sucks. Would be benched in Porto or Benfica.
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Grosso is probably hyped a little because of the World Cup, Lampard is not over-rated and what about Paolo Ferreira, don't think you think he's more over-rated anyways? tongue.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 3 2007, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 4 2007, 12:03 AM)
Grosso is probably hyped a little because of the World Cup, Lampard is not over-rated and what about Paolo Ferreira, don't think you think he's more over-rated anyways?  tongue.gif
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Honestly speaking, I was neutral when comparing Gerrard to Lampard and the whole debate about Gerrard - Lampard in one team (i.e. England) .. But then when I started hearing about all these clubs wanting Lampard and they made him look like a super star player .. It hit me .. Lampard is no play maker like Gerrard, he can't defend even his own ball like Gerrard .. What the f@ck will he provide Juve with ?!

Lampard is just a shadow when you want to compare the two scousers wink.gif

The ONLY reason he is linked to Juventus, is Claudio Ranieri cool.gif

p.s. Maybe in the EPL, he can be a spectacle, but in Italy, you need guts wink.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 3 2007, 10:20 PM

I actually think Lampard would play better in Italy!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 10:22 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 3 2007, 09:18 PM)
Lampard is just a shadow when you want to compare the two scousers wink.gif

The ONLY reason he is linked to Juventus, is Claudio Ranieri  cool.gif

p.s. Maybe in the EPL, he can be a spectacle, but in Italy, you need guts wink.gif
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Gerrard's a scouser, Lampard's a cockney.

I agree with you, though. Gerrard has more to his game that Frank does and the only reason he was linked with Juve is because Ranieri. But definsively Lampard is very effective, it's just that he's not known for it. He did make more tackles than Essien this season, after all.

I don't like comparing different leagues in certain ways, though. They're played too differently.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 3 2007, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 10:03 PM)
Grosso is probably hyped a little because of the World Cup, Lampard is not over-rated and what about Paolo Ferreira, don't think you think he's more over-rated anyways?  tongue.gif
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Ferreira is pathetic. It was the deal of the century for Porto. 20M/euros... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
The guy is not even worth 3M. In Portugal everybody makes fun of him.

Miguel, from Valencia is like 34890348324934090932403293204934290 times better than him.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 10:33 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 09:30 PM)
Ferreira is pathetic. It was the deal of the century for Porto. 20M/euros...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
The guy is not even worth 3M. In Portugal everybody makes fun of him.

Miguel, from Valencia is like 34890348324934090932403293204934290 times better than him.
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 3 2007, 10:40 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 4 2007, 12:22 AM)
Gerrard's a scouser, Lampard's a cockney.
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My bad .. I forgot smile.gif

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 4 2007, 12:22 AM)
I agree with you, though. Gerrard has more to his game that Frank does and the only reason he was linked with Juve is because Ranieri. But definsively Lampard is very effective, it's just that he's not known for it. He did make more tackles than Essien this season, after all.

I don't like comparing different leagues in certain ways, though. They're played too differently.
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Well .. I am not comparing the two leagues .. I am telling you, Lampard wont succeed in Italy .. I am just putting more emphasis on his game. In England he plays the perfect game that suits the EPL. But at another level, he would need to have tactical attributes (here is where Gerrard comes in).

On this subject .. I think that England without Lampard in the first XI would play even better wink.gif

You say he is effective in the EPL, defensively he was better than Essian ? Ok, I never disareed there wink.gif I think in the EPL he is great, but in Italy he wont be as effective as he is in the EPL. But Gerrard rolleyes.gif Now you are talking about a brilliant footballer king.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 10:43 PM

Gotcha. wink.gif

In reply to the 'England would do better without Lampard' I think you're probably right, I'd like to see us change things round in an unimportant game of some sorts, see how we fare without him/Gerrard.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 3 2007, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 4 2007, 12:43 AM)
Gotcha.  wink.gif

In reply to the 'England would do better without Lampard' I think you're probably right, I'd like to see us change things round in an unimportant game of some sorts, see how we fare without him/Gerrard.
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They should try it out without Lampard ... Who knows, you might win Euro 08 rolleyes.gif

Cuz England have the team .. They just need to find the organization and a Goal Keeper tongue.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 3 2007, 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 4 2007, 12:40 AM)
But Gerrard  rolleyes.gif Now you are talking about a brilliant footballer king.gif
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puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 3 2007, 11:25 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2007, 01:04 AM)
puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif
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u know Denial isn't just a river in Africa rolleyes.gif


*runs away and hides behind big m1ke*

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 3 2007, 11:28 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 3 2007, 10:25 PM)
u know Denial isn't just a river in Africa rolleyes.gif
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laugh.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 3 2007, 11:42 PM

Of course I admit Gerrard is a fine player (although his style certainly sucks! He walks and runs like a broken puppet...) I just feel the need to state how much I hate him every single time I hear his name!

Did I say his name!?? puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 3 2007, 11:43 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 4 2007, 01:42 AM)
I just feel the need to state how much I hate him every single time I hear his name!

Did I say his name!??  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif  puke.gif
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That is fine ... I feel the same way about Lump it Lampard rolleyes.gif

Posted by: IoRDanCHo Jul 4 2007, 02:41 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 3 2007, 10:43 PM)
That is fine ... I feel the same way about Lump it Lampard rolleyes.gif
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Both Frank and Steven, can play ****! They just can do the wedding shots! That means that they shoot with full power like an idiot who never saw a ball in his life!
But Steven is more lucky, that's why people say he is better! Insted of that, they can't do anything at all! Absolute LOOSERS!

P.S. EPL Sucks! Manchester do, Chelsea do, L'pool do, only Arsenal does not!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 4 2007, 09:37 AM

QUOTE (IoRDanCHo @ Jul 4 2007, 01:41 AM)
Both Frank and Steven, can play ****! They just can do the wedding shots! That means that they shoot with full power like an idiot who never saw a ball in his life!
But Steven is more lucky, that's why people say he is better! Insted of that, they can't do anything at all! Absolute LOOSERS!

P.S. EPL Sucks! Manchester do, Chelsea do, L'pool do, only Arsenal does not!
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huh.gif

I'm really starting to get bored of this whole anti England and all their players thing. rolleyes.gif

Gerrard and Lampard are very good players, there are not many that can do both attacking and defensive work to such a success. They both can lead a team well and as for 'hitting it as hard as they can'. I don't think it's fluke, you don't score 20 goals a season like that. rolleyes.gif

Who do you think's a midfielder that attacks well then? Ballack? laugh.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 8 2007, 07:33 PM

QUOTE
Ronaldo ‘key’ in Real victory

Real Madrid President Ramon Calderon has launched a sensational attack on Milan ace Ronaldo. “We won the championship because he left,” he noted.

The Spanish giants sold the Brazilian in January for around £5.5m and sacrificing him has been hailed by Calderon as a significant piece of business.

“How much did the decision to sell him influence Real’s title win? A lot,” Calderon said to Spanish newspaper El Pais.

"It was vital that we recovered the habit of hard work and sacrifice – and Ronaldo didn't collaborate," he continued.

"I've enjoyed watching him, but we had to change the atmosphere in the dressing room and he wasn't helping."

The Madrid masters were four points behind leaders Barcelona in third when the former Golden Ball winner was shown the door.

They ended the campaign on level terms with the Nou Camp giants but lifted the title due to their better head-to-head record.

The transfer did seem to benefit everybody involved, though, as the former Inter star proved to be an inspired Rossoneri capture.

The Milan giants were struggling in mid-table before his arrival and his seven goals in 14 League matches helped them to finish in the top four.

rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 8 2007, 07:42 PM

This is what Real give an ex-player of theirs... pretty cool!! rolleyes.gif

Once again Madrid, well done!

Posted by: Portikins Jul 10 2007, 05:12 PM



Madrid just signed Pepe, FC Porto center-back, for 30M/euros.

He's tall, he's quick, with tecnique, strong... 24 yo. Everything to suceed at a big club. His dream was Real and he did it.

With this sign I believe Sergio Ramos will definately go to the right-back place, where he plays better.

Posted by: Tennie Jul 10 2007, 05:15 PM

(Is Porto going to have a team left at this point?)

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 10 2007, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 10 2007, 07:15 PM)
(Is Porto going to have a team left at this point?)
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I think the Portugues teams will come up with other great players .. They seem to be just like to dutch, in bringing out these players. So to answer ur question, I think they will always have a team biggrin.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 10 2007, 05:34 PM

E30m!!!! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 10 2007, 09:30 PM

It's the same price we paid for Nesta.

Posted by: dst Jul 11 2007, 12:15 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 10 2007, 11:30 PM)
It's the same price we paid for Nesta.
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And Nesta was then wanted by every single big team?? Who is Pepe for f@ck's sake?? Is this money laundry or what?? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 11 2007, 12:32 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 11 2007, 02:15 PM)
And Nesta was then wanted by every single big team?? Who is Pepe for f@ck's sake?? Is this money laundry or what??  rolleyes.gif
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It's Real Madrid so I wouldn't be surprised rolleyes.gif

What I meant is, if you pay that much for a CB, he better be a Nesta quality...

Posted by: dst Jul 11 2007, 12:42 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 11 2007, 02:32 PM)
What I meant is, if you pay that much for a CB, he better be a Nesta quality...
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I've seen him a couple of times and he was very good... but he will never reach Nesta's level... Alessandro was THE CAPTAIN of a great Lazio side AT 21!! smile.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 11 2007, 12:52 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 11 2007, 12:42 PM)
I've seen him a couple of times and he was very good... but he will never reach Nesta's level... Alessandro was THE CAPTAIN of a great Lazio side AT 21!!  smile.gif
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Obviously you can't compare him to Nesta.
Alessandro is just the best CB in the world.

Pepe was the best Porto player last season, along with Quaresma and Lucho. But his influence was incredible for a CB. He's very good. We'll see if he proves himself in Madrid.

Posted by: arivanjj Jul 14 2007, 01:55 AM


bwin rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 14 2007, 08:15 AM

^^^ Very ugly shirt.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 14 2007, 11:20 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 14 2007, 08:15 AM)
^^^ Very ugly shirt.
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Yup. Back to purple. Last season's jersey was better.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jul 15 2007, 05:05 AM

OFFICIAL: BARCELONA sign COLIN FARRELL! ohmy.gif

*he will play along side deco LOL



hahah don't they look exactly the same?!?!? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 15 2007, 01:08 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jul 15 2007, 05:05 AM)
OFFICIAL: BARCELONA sign COLIN FARRELL! ohmy.gif

*he will play along side deco LOL



hahah don't they look exactly the same?!?!? biggrin.gif
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Deco looks like a guy from Malaysia/China. Farrell no. biggrin.gif

Posted by: IoRDanCHo Jul 15 2007, 08:03 PM

Deco is ugly as hell!!! And Colin is definitely not.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 17 2007, 12:00 AM

David Villa panna on Daniel Alves biggrin.gif :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLyqEXP05mA&NR=1

R7 translate the commentator please: "hellyoum Villa hellyoum!" laugh.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 17 2007, 08:11 AM

laugh.gif laugh.gif

means: "Today is Villa's day .. Today is Villa's day" tongue.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 17 2007, 01:43 PM

Yeah?? I thought it was more along the lines of well played Villa...well played

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 17 2007, 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 17 2007, 03:43 PM)
Yeah?? I thought it was more along the lines of well played Villa...well played
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He said that too .. Gut I thought porty meant ilyoum .. not hiloo tongue.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 17 2007, 02:05 PM

I envy you both. I wish I speak arab... sad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 17 2007, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 01:05 PM)
I envy you both. I wish I speak arab...  sad.gif
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Don't be greedy now! You speak about 4 more languages than me! In fact, you're better at English than me. tongue.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 17 2007, 04:50 PM

I speask as much arabic as you speak French. I watch enough Arab commentary to get the idea though. wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 17 2007, 08:07 PM

Hellyoum Hellyoum! biggrin.gif

QUOTE
Robben al Real nelle prossime ore

17.07.2007 20.37 di Ilario Imparato    articolo letto 493 volte

Il Real Madrid potrebbe ufficializzare l'olandese Robben nelle prossime ore.
Come annunciato da TMW in giornata l'accordo economico dovrebbe essere intorno ai 23 milioni di euro.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=67928


Reports in Italy, Spain and Holland saying that Robben will be officially a Real Madrid player on the next hours.

Amazing add for Madrid. Big lost for Chelsea, if confirmed.

Posted by: misha Jul 17 2007, 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 10:07 PM)
Amazing add for Madrid. Big lost for Chelsea, if confirmed.
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Not so big. Malouda is a good replacement. At least he won't be that much injured.

Posted by: dst Jul 17 2007, 08:23 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 10:07 PM)
Amazing add for Madrid. Big lost for Chelsea, if confirmed.
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In theory! He did not contribute that much...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 17 2007, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 17 2007, 10:23 PM)
In theory! He did not contribute that much...
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And we can conclude most rumors of Kaka-Calderon for this summer king.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 17 2007, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 17 2007, 08:21 PM)
Not so big. Malouda is a good replacement. At least he won't be that much injured.
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Malouda is not half of the player Robben is (in-form and without injuries).

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 17 2007, 08:23 PM)
In theory! He did not contribute that much...
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Nah... he's just the best LW is the world. Just that. laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

He solved many matches. I remember Porto for example. Wigan too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HHbpe4PIgI

In a 1 on 1... he's the best player in Chelsea by far.

Posted by: dst Jul 17 2007, 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 17 2007, 11:25 PM)
He solved many matches. I remember Porto for example. Wigan too.
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Can you name any other games!?? rolleyes.gif

I'm with you, he's great! I'm just saying that because of him being injured all the time he has not helped Chelsea that much. At least not last season!

Posted by: Portikins Jul 17 2007, 09:37 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 17 2007, 09:30 PM)
At least not last season!
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Not a surprise since Mourinho played on a 4-4-2 diamond most of the time... rolleyes.gif Unlike the past seasons when he did the Duff|Robben on the wings with Drogba in the center.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 17 2007, 09:39 PM

The only way I look at it is..

Robben played more games in his first two years at Chelsea than he did last season. They won the league in his first two years, they didn't last year.

Just shows how big he is to the team, they'll miss him. Malouda, while good, will not be enough in my opinion.

Posted by: dst Jul 17 2007, 09:41 PM

I don't think they'll miss him. Not after last season... Mourinho now knows!

Posted by: Portikins Jul 17 2007, 09:55 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 17 2007, 09:41 PM)
I don't think they'll miss him. Not after last season... Mourinho now knows!
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It depends how Mourinho will play. If it's the 4-4-2 diamond, Malouda is better since he can play in the center too. If it's the 4-3-3... then Robben should stay.

He's just 23. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 18 2007, 02:33 PM

QUOTE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6904044.stm



Robben agrees terms with Madrid

Chelsea winger Arjen Robben has agreed personal terms over a move to Real Madrid, reports BBC Radio Five Live.

The clubs are yet to agree a fee, which is understood to be about £15m, but Robben, 23, is due to fly to the Spanish capital on Friday.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 19 2007, 02:57 PM

@Porty: Not a bad fee for someone with his age and quality, superb signing for them.

Posted by: KillerMax Jul 20 2007, 02:59 PM

So, how is this gonna work now for Real?

-------Raul--Nistelrooy---------
Robinho----------------Robben---

eh?

Posted by: Portikins Jul 20 2007, 04:03 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2007, 02:59 PM)
So, how is this gonna work now for Real?

-------Raul--Nistelrooy---------
Robinho----------------Robben---

eh?
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Seems pretty strong. With dst's love Gago and Diarra in the center-midfield.
Although Robinho can play on the right and Robben on the left. (exchange places)

But the transfer is not yet confirmed. Reports in England say Abramovich won't let Robben quit Chelsea.

On the other hand... they signed Dudek for Casillas sub.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 20 2007, 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 20 2007, 06:03 PM)
But the transfer is not yet confirmed. Reports in England say Abramovich won't let Robben quit Chelsea.
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I think that is to drive the price higher ... Cuz, Robben wasn't first team player last season .. And with Malouda and Shevchenko, Robben is a gonner IMO

Posted by: Portikins Jul 20 2007, 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 20 2007, 07:35 PM)
I think that is to drive the price higher ... Cuz, Robben wasn't first team player last season .. And with Malouda and Shevchenko, Robben is a gonner IMO
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Yup. Malouda is more Mourinho's type.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 21 2007, 01:33 AM



Hey mishale, as Israeli... do you know anything about Barcelona's young gun Gai Assulin.

He's known in La Masia as one of the best prospects out there along with Bojan Krkic, Thiago, Giovani dos Santos and Iago Falqué.

Damn, I really envy Barcelona in this field. Along with Arsenal they're the best out there. Although R.Madrid, Roma, Inter, Sporting Lisbon, Auxerre and Liverpool have some good talents too.

Posted by: KillerMax Jul 21 2007, 12:48 PM

We have Facchin!!! He is fucckin great!

Posted by: misha Jul 21 2007, 04:22 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 21 2007, 03:33 AM)
Hey mishale, as Israeli... do you know anything about Barcelona's young gun Gai Assulin.

He's known in La Masia as one of the best prospects out there along with Bojan Krkic, Thiago, Giovani dos Santos and Iago Falqué.

Damn, I really envy Barcelona in this field. Along with Arsenal they're the best out there. Although R.Madrid, Roma, Inter, Sporting Lisbon, Auxerre and Liverpool have some good talents too.
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He's only 16, very fast, great technique, can play as AM and SS and considered as huge potential. He's already has a fan site : http://www.gaiassulin.com/ . A year ago Arsenal tried to sign him (wanted to do a 'Fabregas' smile.gif ), and a month ago United and Chelsea tried to convince his parents and him to move to England.

Barca's scouting system is very effective. They are signing 11-12-13 y.o talented kids from all over the world, and it's very worth while in a long term. We should do this too. It's not only for a 'small' clubs.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 21 2007, 06:08 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 21 2007, 04:22 PM)
He's only 16, very fast, great technique, can play as AM and SS and considered as huge potential. He's already has a fan site : http://www.gaiassulin.com/ . A year ago Arsenal tried to sign him (wanted to do a 'Fabregas'  smile.gif ), and a month ago United and Chelsea tried to convince his parents and him to move to England.

Barca's scouting system is very effective. They are signing 11-12-13 y.o talented kids from all over the world, and it's very worth while in a long term. We should do this too. It's not only for a 'small' clubs.
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It's Gai or Guy? I've seen in both ways.



BTW: Valencia just signed Helguera. There goes their defense. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 21 2007, 06:19 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 21 2007, 08:08 PM)
It's Gai or Guy? I've seen in both ways.
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It's free translation from Hebrew so it can go both ways.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 22 2007, 02:52 AM

I want dst RIGHT NOW over here. Greek info needed.

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Seria/fantastico/poder/jugar/lado/Guti/dasftb/20070722dasdaiftb_30/Tes/



This greek kid, Sotiris Ninis, it's said he is one of the best (if not the #1) European youngster born in 1990.

Spanish papers already interviewed him and Real Madrid is really looking foward to him.
He's compared to Messi. A great... great talent.

Any informaton dst? Do you know this kid from Panathinaikos?

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 22 2007, 05:10 AM

^^^

He's probably even hit on the kid already...our dst wink.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Jul 23 2007, 01:35 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 21 2007, 07:52 PM)
I want dst RIGHT NOW over here.
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Now didn't you regret telling him that last time?

Posted by: Portikins Jul 23 2007, 06:51 PM

AS is really a damn good paper. This guys... I mean, not even Madrid and Chelsea announced the deal and they already put Robben on Real Madrid roster for the next season:

http://www.as.com/futbol/primera/jugadores/?idj=12575

I know AS/Marca are like Real Madrid paper, but still...

What if Robben renew with Chelsea? laugh.gif It would be bad for him but still... would embarass AS.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jul 23 2007, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 23 2007, 05:51 PM)
AS is really a damn good paper. This guys... I mean, not even Madrid and Chelsea announced the deal and they already put Robben on Real Madrid roster for the next season:

http://www.as.com/futbol/primera/jugadores/?idj=12575

I know AS/Marca are like Real Madrid paper, but still...

What if Robben renew with Chelsea?  laugh.gif It would be bad for him but still... would embarass AS.
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Thats almost desperation rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 23 2007, 07:47 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Jul 23 2007, 07:08 PM)
Thats almost desperation rolleyes.gif
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I think AS knows probably something we don't. When it comes to Madrid, usually AS is better (at the moment). More reliable.

Marca in the other hand are more famous, and tradicionally the leading paper in the country, but at the moment that goes to AS.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jul 23 2007, 08:31 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 23 2007, 06:47 PM)
I think AS knows probably something we don't. When it comes to Madrid, usually AS is better (at the moment). More reliable.

Marca in the other hand are more famous, and tradicionally the leading paper in the country, but at the moment that goes to AS.
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Robben wasn't in the squad so maybe they do know, but they have been wrong on many occasions wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 26 2007, 10:01 PM

FT Dundee United 0-1 Barcelona - Henry '90

The score was not right, in my opinion, yet another fixed game.

R10, Iniesta, Deco, Henry were all awful in this game, they were showed up by a poor Scottish team. In the '85 minute Dundee had a completely fair goal disallowed, the referee then gave a ridiculous penalty for a dive by that Giovani. Heny took the penalty and had it saved ( laugh.gif ) then put in the rebound.

R10, Henry, Giovani and co. were AWFUL, nothing more. If I was a Barca fan I'd be a little worried, yes it was only a friendly, but all of these supposed top young players that had got owned by a Scottish team, as did their senior players. laugh.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Jul 27 2007, 02:30 AM

Priceless. biggrin.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Jul 27 2007, 07:14 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 27 2007, 07:01 AM)
R10, Iniesta, Deco, Henry were all awful in this game, they were showed up by a poor Scottish team. In the '85 minute Dundee had a completely fair goal disallowed, the referee then gave a ridiculous penalty for a dive by that Giovani. Heny took the penalty and had it saved ( laugh.gif ) then put in the rebound.

laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 27 2007, 07:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESyg8MYNVAg

Class goal by Raul in the first pre-season match for Real Madrid.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 27 2007, 07:51 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 27 2007, 06:34 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESyg8MYNVAg

Class goal by Raul in the first pre-season match for Real Madrid.
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Stoke! laugh.gif

Nice move and finish by Raul.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 28 2007, 04:44 PM

40'... Hearts 1-2 Barcelona

2 goals by Ronaldinho. A penalty (as always rolleyes.gif ) an a header.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jul 28 2007, 05:17 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 28 2007, 03:44 PM)
40'... Hearts 1-2 Barcelona

2 goals by Ronaldinho. A penalty (as always rolleyes.gif ) an a header.
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I never knew Ronnie could head the ball

Posted by: Portikins Jul 28 2007, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jul 28 2007, 05:17 PM)
I never knew Ronnie could head the ball
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Yup. Just like the goal vs. Sevilla last season. Really good header.

Anyway, Giovani dos Santos scored on the 2nd half: 3-1 FT
Henry, Deco, Xavi and co were good. Krkic was the best in the pitch.

Posted by: dst Jul 28 2007, 08:35 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 22 2007, 04:52 AM)
I want dst RIGHT NOW over here
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You're never full! cool.gif

I've already talked about him in the http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4379 thread!! But you were not paying attention!!! You are certainly going to get some spanking now!!!!

Anyway... he's good, very good!! He was good at the U19 championship but he wasn't at 100% because he's been playing non-stop in Panathinaiko's starting XI since December when he only had "primavera" experience and training... he was awfully tired in these matches but he still showed some signs of brilliance! And yes, your team are following him for quite some time now!! I hope they won't snatch him... cause I like him! wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 31 2007, 08:19 PM

Villarreal just signed Giuseppe Rossi for 10M/euros.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 31 2007, 08:22 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 07:19 PM)
Villarreal just signed Giuseppe Rossi for 10M/euros.
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And that value is based on what? Doing nothing at United, even less at Newcastle and having an average Euro u-21? Surely he can't be worth that much JUST for his Parma performances. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 31 2007, 09:17 PM

Hannover 3-0 Real Madrid laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
What's pathetic is that both teams had +/- the same number of chances. Higuain and Raul missed 4 or 5 sitters.

OK, OK... Nistelrooy, Robinho, Robben (most probably), and many others didn't play, but still...

Schuster will be insulted by every single paper in Madrid tomorrow. laugh.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jul 31 2007, 09:29 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 04:17 PM)
Schuster will be insulted by every single paper in Madrid tomorrow.  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I can't wait.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 31 2007, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 31 2007, 09:29 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
I can't wait.
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Well, if we played Darmian, Aubameyang, Grimi and 3 or 4 Primavera guys... we'd get killed by any team too.

Sh!t happens. They got 8 clear chances. Hannover 6 and scored 3.

---------v.Nistelrooy--------
Robben--------------Robinho

With this trio, it would have been different. wink.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jul 31 2007, 11:14 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 09:17 PM)
Hannover 3-0 Real Madrid  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
What's pathetic is that both teams had +/- the same number of chances. Higuain and Raul missed 4 or 5 sitters.

OK, OK... Nistelrooy, Robinho, Robben (most probably), and many others didn't play, but still...

Schuster will be insulted by every single paper in Madrid tomorrow.  laugh.gif
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I've seen the match. Madrid wasn't impressing at all, I was a bit disapointed. Nice goals by Hannover. Higuain could have scored 3 goals easily, but he didn't manage to get past Enke or missed the open goal laugh.gif
Well, in the end we all know Madrid would have won it easily if it was not a friendly.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 31 2007, 11:49 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 31 2007, 11:14 PM)
I've seen the match. Madrid wasn't impressing at all, I was a bit disapointed. Nice goals by Hannover. Higuain could have scored 3 goals easily, but he didn't manage to get past Enke or missed the open goal laugh.gif
Well, in the end we all know Madrid would have won it easily if it was not a friendly.
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I've noticed that Higuain has a serious problem: the finishing. I mean... he did everything right 2 or 3 times, usually the hardest part of a foward, and then misses an open-goal. rolleyes.gif

Well, still young.

Posted by: dst Aug 1 2007, 12:43 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 31 2007, 10:22 PM)
And that value is based on what? Doing nothing at United, even less at Newcastle and having an average Euro u-21? Surely he can't be worth that much JUST for his Parma performances.  rolleyes.gif
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Come on... you like Iaquinta... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 11:17 PM)
Hannover 3-0 Real Madrid  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
What's pathetic is that both teams had +/- the same number of chances. Higuain and Raul missed 4 or 5 sitters.

OK, OK... Nistelrooy, Robinho, Robben (most probably), and many others didn't play, but still...

Schuster will be insulted by every single paper in Madrid tomorrow.  laugh.gif
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Oh, you're enjoying it!?? rolleyes.gif ... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 1 2007, 02:26 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 1 2007, 12:43 PM)
Oh, you're enjoying it!?? rolleyes.gif ...  biggrin.gif
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No. sad.gif

Well, it's pre-season but this year with Schuster... even with Robben they miss many things.

Barcelona, if they play, 51% of what they know... they'll be Champ. Unless they self-destruct like last year. Or something out of this world happens until the end of August.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 1 2007, 08:02 PM

QUOTE
Or something out of this world happens until the end of August.


It's called the biggest transfer in football history. Involves a buck toothed fellow. That's all I can tell you at the moment. wink.gif king.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 2 2007, 01:03 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 1 2007, 11:43 AM)
Come on... you like Iaquinta...  rolleyes.gif
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Iaquinta single handedly put Udinese into the CL, where he bagged a hat-trick in the first game. He also scored at the World Cup and picked up a winners medal, he's not too bad in big competition, his league form isn't bad either.

After all, Juventus signed him. wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2007, 01:07 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 2 2007, 01:03 AM)
Iaquinta single handedly put Udinese into the CL, where he bagged a hat-trick in the first game. He also scored at the World Cup and picked up a winners medal, he's not too bad in big competition, his league form isn't bad either.

After all, Juventus signed him.  wink.gif
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Did you see Newcastle-Juventus the other day? Oh my god. He got a prize: -the worst striker in Juventus on the last decade. laugh.gif

He's good for Udinese. Nothing more. Pure crap.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 2 2007, 01:21 AM

I agree with Porty about Iaquinta. As a box striker, he's got all the agility of a bull in a china shop and about as much charm as Pippo has in his little finger. He's good for a mid-table team but not for someone like Juve (or Milan). I was surprised to see him in the WC squad, to be honest (he didn't actually start any of the WC games).

Then again, maybe I should be glad he signed for the Zebras and not, say, for Milan.....

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 2 2007, 01:23 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 2 2007, 12:07 AM)
Did you see Newcastle-Juventus the other day? Oh my god. He got a prize: -the worst striker in Juventus on the last decade.  laugh.gif

He's good for Udinese. Nothing more. Pure crap.
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So he's the worst striker ever because of one friendly?

Kaka' and R10 were made to look ametuer against England, was only after they went off that Brazil got back in the game, are they crap? wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 2 2007, 02:01 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 2 2007, 01:23 AM)
So he's the worst striker ever because of one friendly?

Kaka' and R10 were made to look ametuer against England, was only after they went off that Brazil got back in the game, are they crap?  wink.gif
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Nop. I always said Iaquinta is good but NOT for a top-team.

One thing is if a player is not interested in a friendly and don't even run or so. Other thing is if the player trying to get a place in the first 11 and simply... he's sh!t. He tried but he's not good enough.

I mean, it was not 1, 2 or 3 times during the match. It was pathetic really.

Anyway, I think he'll be benched as Del Piero and Trezeguet are still there. And those... are world-class.

Posted by: mchanna Aug 3 2007, 09:50 PM

allegedly Real Madrid signed Ballack & Robben for 40m (both)
http://www.as.com/articulo/Futbol/Robben/Ballack/llegarian/millones/dasftb/20070803dasdasftb_31/Tes/
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/1023596.html

Posted by: Tennie Aug 3 2007, 10:18 PM

My Spanish isn't the best, but does it maybe say that Madrid have offered 40m for the two players instead of saying that they've signed them?

Posted by: Portikins Aug 4 2007, 02:13 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 3 2007, 10:18 PM)
My Spanish isn't the best, but does it maybe say that Madrid have offered 40m for the two players instead of saying that they've signed them?
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Yup. No confirmation yet.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 4 2007, 02:32 PM

Hopefully they'll have no need for Ricky now! wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 4 2007, 03:56 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Aug 4 2007, 02:32 PM)
Hopefully they'll have no need for Ricky now! wink.gif
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Do you really think Ballack will leave Chelsea? Robben I think it will but Ballack? Humm... only if Mourinho is looking for Deco. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 9 2007, 02:59 AM

Tonight in a Spanish radio:

"Robben and Drenthe are done. They'll be officially Real Madrid players on the next hours/days."

We're here to see. cool.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 9 2007, 07:45 PM

OFFICIAL: Drenthe is a Real Madrid player - http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/comunicado_oficial_41728.htm



Top-talent there. Still very young but very agressive IMHO.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 10 2007, 05:13 PM

Barcelona's market seems to be close but in Madrid the thing is wide open.

Rumours today about Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Quaresma + the usual Robben-talk.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 10 2007, 05:19 PM

QUOTE
Ajax Reveal Madrid Bid For Sneijder 

Ajax have confirmed that they have received a bid for Wesley Sneijder from Real Madrid and are beginning to prepare for life without their star player.


The 23-year-old has been a target for the Spanish giants all summer and have now made an official offer of €24m for his services.

Martin Van Geel, the Amsterdam-based club's technical director, confirmed that they had received the bid and were ready to talk.

"Wesley has not gone yet, but we cannot deny that we are seriously thinking that he is going to go to Real Madrid," he told Dutch publication Sportweek.

"Sneijder told us that he would be very pleased to make the move."

Coach Henk ten Cate is realistic about the news, but clearly unhappy about the prospect of losing such influential player from his squad.

"I am already thinking about life without him," he said. "If he goes that would be a great shame, a really great pity."

Madrid have already signed another Dutchman after prising Royston Drenthe away from Feyennord and are hot on the trail of two others.

Talks with Chelsea about Arjen Robben are ongoing, while the Spanish outfit are said to have opened negotiations with Hamburg over a move for Rafael van der vaart.

LB


Must say that I'd love to see Sneijder in Milan. One of my favourite center-midfielders.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 10 2007, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 10 2007, 04:19 PM)
Must say that I'd love to see Sneijder in Milan. One of my favourite center-midfielders.
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Agreed.

He'd really suit us too, in my opinion. If we only signed him, I'd be happy with that. Won't happen though. sad.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 11 2007, 10:58 PM



Spanish SuperCup - 1st leg: Sevilla 1-0 R.Madrid

A penalty by Luis Fabiano solved the 1st leg. Next week in Bernabeu is the 2nd one.

PS: Schuster lineup was awful. Balboa in the first 11? Raul as striker?! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 11 2007, 11:42 PM

biggrin.gif Nice!!

I won't be all bad... I have to say I like Madrid's away shirt! tongue.gif

Alves was amazing as usual, Boulahrouz and Dragutinović combined perfectly and Sevilla as a whole defended Fabiano's goal surprisingly well! Keita was Sevilla's best in my view... and it was only his first official game!! He's (probably) gonna be Sevilla's next big thing... very good signing!

As for Real... well, they were bad, Real bad! That was an awful performance... still, Schuster's effect on the team is obvious; he's taught his players to cry like b!tches for every decision given against them!! rolleyes.gif Baptista... he can't be Brazilian... really... he's fake... I can't see how a joke of a player like him can play for Real Madrid!! And Robinho... as usual; dribbling and diving! The moment he learns about passing (wow! never heard that before, have you?) he will become a good player... and he might even trouble teams better than Chile! rolleyes.gif Sadly enough, Gago was bad too! sad.gif On the contrary, Pepe amazed me!! That was a magnificent performance by him tonight!

Anyway... it was only normal that Sevilla would play better. They're better prepared as they play the CL preliminary 1st leg in a week (against AEK Athens)! I wanna see Real's line-up in two months... with Sneijder, Drenthe (possibly Robben)...

Posted by: Portikins Aug 11 2007, 11:50 PM

QUOTE
Sneijder Move In Doldrums As Ajax Demand 27M 

After almost having reached an agreement over the transfer of Wesley Sneijder, Real Madrid and Ajax have once again drifted apart.

There were reports this morning that an agreement has been reached over a 25 million euro move.

However, it has since emerged that Real Madrid and Ajax are still separated by 3 million euros.

Los Merengues' final offer of 24 million euros has been turned down, with Ajax demanding 27m in order to let their star midfielder go.

Ajax coach Henk Ten Cate is wary of losing another key player after selling Ryan Babel to Liverpool, and is keen to ensure that if he does, he makes good money out of the move.

Interestingly, though, Babel was sold for around 17-18 million euros, and Sneijder has been priced at 27m. Yet another instance of clubs pricing their players exclusively for Real Madrid?

Of course, Real Madrid have set the standards themselves with a 30 million offer for Pepe, even though they are not too keen on a repeat.

The latest on the move is that both sides have put their feet down, and the deal has been put in the freezer.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=379883


So, Sneijder is staying? Stupid Madrid. They can give 24 but not 27? A team that have 100M/euros to spend? rolleyes.gif

We'll see what happens and if Sneijder plays the CL 3rd pre next Tuesday or Wednesday with Ajax. If he does, he'll stay in Ajax.

Posted by: arivanjj Aug 12 2007, 10:00 PM

Sneijder's Madrid Signing Confirmed Former Ajax man
Wesley Sneijder has penned a five year deal with Real Madrid, according to the club's official website...

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=380722

sleep.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 12 2007, 10:35 PM

Just like I was expecting... Madrid isn't stupid enough... just for 3M I found it weird they pulling out of the bid-thing.

Great add for them.

Posted by: mchanna Aug 13 2007, 01:18 AM

for 27m.... expensive, but he's quality.

I quite forgot that RM had Metzelder too!

Posted by: dst Aug 13 2007, 01:25 AM

This is sad! sleep.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Aug 13 2007, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (mchanna @ Aug 13 2007, 12:18 AM)
for 27m.... expensive, but he's quality.

I quite forgot that RM had Metzelder too!
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I thought I mis-read then but that's Euro's, when you think Man United bought Hargreaves for the same price, then this really isnt that bad of a deal.

A player I would have really liked to see in Rossoneri colours, another one... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 13 2007, 02:37 PM



Rumours in Spain that the Ballack-deal was almost done until Madrid president Calderon said "NO" because of their new policy in the transfer-window. Then they signed Wesley Sneijder.

Only buying young and quality players for the first 11. [Casillas, Marcelo, Pepe, Ramos, Adrián Gonzalez, Drenthe, Sneijder, Gago, Diarra, Higuain, Robinho, Soldado, Cicinho, Robben?!... ]

I think it's difficult to find another European club with such number of quality players under-25/26. Probably M.United?

Raúl, Guti, Emerson, Nistelrooy, Salgado and Cannavaro will be what? 2-3 years more with them? Probably just for the locker-room importance. Just like United with Gary Neville, Scholes, Giggs, etc.

Posted by: LaPalma Aug 13 2007, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 13 2007, 02:37 PM)


Rumours in Spain that the Ballack-deal was almost done until Madrid president Calderon said "NO" because of their new policy in the transfer-window. Then they signed Wesley Sneijder.

Only buying young and quality players for the first 11. [Casillas, Marcelo, Pepe, Ramos, Adrián Gonzalez, Drenthe, Sneijder, Gago, Diarra, Higuain, Robinho, Soldado, Cicinho, Robben?!... ]

I think it's difficult to find another European club with such number of quality players under-25/26. Probably M.United?

Raúl, Guti, Emerson, Nistelrooy, Salgado and Cannavaro will be what? 2-3 years more with them? Probably just for the locker-room importance. Just like United with Gary Neville, Scholes, Giggs, etc.
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Van Nistelrooy should be a very important player for them in the upcoming season. With his style he can score 20+ goals a season even when he's 33. The others...yes.

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 14 2007, 12:53 AM

When the hell did they buy soldado? ohmy.gif Man, only if we bought a couple players like that...

This squad would have been ideal for us this season:

Dida, Kalac, Fiori

Nesta, Bonera, Kaladze, Maldini, Barzagli, Simic, Oddo, Jankulovski, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, Darmian

Gattuso, Pirlo, Sneijder, Gourcuff, Kaka, Seedorf, Ambrosini, Brocchi

Ronaldo, Inzaghi, Gilardino, Quagliarella, Pato


Now that's a squad with just enough depth to compete in all competitions. And it's not even too much to ask. A normal transfer market should look like that. sad.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 14 2007, 01:08 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 14 2007, 12:53 AM)
When the hell did they buy soldado? ohmy.gif Man, only if we bought a couple players like that...


Soldado was always a Madrid player. He's from Madrid castilla (primavera) although he was on-loan to Osasuna I think.

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 14 2007, 02:25 AM

Yeah, I have seen him a couple times and he looked very impressive (In La Liga). Never knew he was a Madrid player.

Posted by: LaPalma Aug 14 2007, 08:40 AM

It seems that Rafael van der Vaart wants to talk himself to Valencia. They offered Hamburg 14M (way not enough IMO...he's worth as much as Sneijder at least) and he said things like "I absolutely want to leave. Valencia is a dream. It would would hurt me if I were to stay in Hamburg". Still hope he's not leaving...would be a big loss for the Bundesliga.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 14 2007, 07:33 PM

Dani Alvez has NOT been called up into Sevilla's squad for their European Cup qualifier. sad.gif

Juande Ramos says it's due to an injury. But I think it's pretty clear they don't want him cup-tied for when he moves. cry.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 14 2007, 09:57 PM

So Madrid sign Sneijder .. BIG deal rolleyes.gif

Now I am even more eager to see how Schuster will do this season cool.gif


And I hope we do meet in the Champions this year devilsmiley.gif I want my Milan to show those pampered babies how the Rossoneri take the pitch.

Remember the San Siro people .. Where all your dreams come true king.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 14 2007, 11:58 PM

Remember 1989. smile.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 15 2007, 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 15 2007, 01:58 AM)
Remember 1989. smile.gif
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wink.gif biggrin.gif .. Old timer tongue.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 16 2007, 12:06 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 14 2007, 07:33 PM)
Dani Alvez has NOT been called up into Sevilla's squad for their European Cup qualifier.  sad.gif

It's Alves, you dirty Villain. wink.gif tongue.gif

Alvez = Spanish (Spain, Colombia, Argentina, Chile, etc)
Alves = Portuguese (Brazil, Portugal, Angola, Mozambique, Macau, etc)

Daniel Alves. And it's said it's a done deal for Chelsea. Amazing full-backs: Cashley and Alves.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 16 2007, 01:33 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 15 2007, 11:06 PM)
It's Alves, you dirty Villain.  wink.gif  tongue.gif

Alvez = Spanish (Spain, Colombia, Argentina, Chile, etc)
Alves = Portuguese (Brazil, Portugal, Angola, Mozambique, Macau, etc)

Daniel Alves. And it's said it's a done deal for Chelsea. Amazing full-backs: Cashley and Alves.
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My excuse: He plays in Spain - I call him by the Spanish version of the name. ¬_¬

Paulo Ferreira (On his day) and Wayne Bridge can also be very good full-backs, could start on at least 50% of the teams in the EPL.. and they're just Chelsea's backups! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 16 2007, 01:50 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 16 2007, 01:33 AM)
My excuse: He plays in Spain - I call him by the Spanish version of the name. ¬_¬

Paulo Ferreira (On his day) and Wayne Bridge can also be very good full-backs, could start on at least 50% of the teams in the EPL.. and they're just Chelsea's backups!  ohmy.gif
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Ferreira is sh!t ffs. He's not even Villa quality. Everybody makes fun of him in here and how poor he is.

Miguel (Valencia) is 7 times what he is. Bridge yes - quality there.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 16 2007, 01:53 AM

Not even Villa quality?

Well, we have no right-back, not one. He can't be worse than nothing, surely? tongue.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 16 2007, 01:59 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 16 2007, 01:53 AM)
Not even Villa quality?

Well, we have no right-back, not one. He can't be worse than nothing, surely?  tongue.gif
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Seriously. He IS pathetic.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 09:22 PM

22' 2nd leg of the Spanish SuperCup: Real Madrid 0-1 Sevilla

Renato scored. So... 0-2 agg for Sevilla now.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 09:29 PM

Madrid equalize in Bernabeu. 1-1 Drenthe in his first official match.

Posted by: misha Aug 19 2007, 09:32 PM

Yes Yes Yes !!

1:2 to the good team cool.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 09:32 PM

1-2 Sevilla. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 09:36 PM

That Renato midfielder touched 2 times in the ball until now. 2 goals. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 19 2007, 09:37 PM

Torres sure played that one up. Yellow to Alves, not really deserved.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 19 2007, 09:37 PM)
Torres sure played that one up. Yellow to Alves, not really deserved.
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Stupid Schuster put Torres instead of Marcelo. Torres is completely out of form.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 19 2007, 09:41 PM

Has anyone opened book on how soon Schuster will be sacked yet? Madrid are getting spanked badly.

Posted by: misha Aug 19 2007, 09:41 PM

1:3. Priceless!! smile.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 19 2007, 09:44 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 19 2007, 11:41 PM)
Has anyone opened book on how soon Schuster will be sacked yet? Madrid are getting spanked badly.
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No matter who they bring, their defence are sh!t. It's like a rule.

My bet is: He won't finish this season.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 19 2007, 09:49 PM

Pretty goal from Cannavaro, header off of a set piece.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 09:49 PM

Canna 2-3.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 19 2007, 10:35 PM

Things are getting a little tense. Some harsh fouls and then a bad foul by Ramos on Dragutinovic that nearly led to a bench-clearer. I'm surprised that little episode ended only with Ramos getting a yellow.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 19 2007, 10:43 PM

And Ramos ties it up with a header. 3-3 in the 80th.

EDIT: And Kanoute answers with a goal of his own in the 83rd. Sevilla are back in the lead.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 10:50 PM

What a match. But NO TOP TEAM gets 4 at home... geez.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 19 2007, 10:56 PM

Wow. The Alien (Pepe) gets sent off and Kanoute scores another one. 5-3 Sevilla. The Madrid fans have gone so quiet I can hear the small contingent of Sevilla fans cheering.

Posted by: misha Aug 19 2007, 10:57 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 20 2007, 12:50 AM)
What a match. But NO TOP TEAM gets 4 at home... geez.
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make it 5 rolleyes.gif

FT 3:5 Congrats to Sevilla

Posted by: Portikins Aug 19 2007, 11:03 PM

There's a thing in Spain like: "Who win the SuperCup never win the League, the next season"... but still, geez.

Galacticos (defensive part)-ERA is back. 5 at home. Geez.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 19 2007, 11:52 PM

w00t!

Sevilla owned! king.gif

With Capello this would never happen. Offensive players + Defensive coach = Balanced team.

Offensive players + Offensive coach = No trophies, but entertaiing matches.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 20 2007, 12:12 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 20 2007, 01:52 AM)
w00t!

Sevilla owned!  king.gif

With Capello this would never happen. Offensive players + Defensive coach = Balanced team.

Offensive players + Offensive coach = No trophies, but entertaiing matches.
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3-5 Seems to look like an entertaining match .. But that is just for Sevilla biggrin.gif

Capello already opened his champaign bottle biggrin.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 20 2007, 12:13 AM

Ha-ha-ha!!!! laugh.gif

HUMILIATION!!!!

What a night! First Inter and then Madrid!! They conceded 5 at home!!!! At Bernabéu!!! biggrin.gif

And they showed the usual Madrid attitude... _ssholes! I only respect Raúl and Casillas from that bog! I'd hate to see Kaká play for them... he doesn't belong there!!

And Sevilla... they are undoubtedly Europe's most on form team of the past couple seasons!! Unstoppable, extraordinarily well-constructed... a true paradigm for every team of relative budget! If Alves stayed they could compete for the championship too! Dani owned stupid lil' Robinho every step of the way!!! biggrin.gif

Let's see how we will perform against those demons... we could see Ringhio vs Poulsen again!! biggrin.gif I can't wait!!

Baptista... this is as bad as seeing Brocchi playing for Milan! What a joke...

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 20 2007, 01:52 AM)
With Capello this would never happen.
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Serves them right! I like Capello and they've been disrespectful towards him... TWICE! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 20 2007, 12:43 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 19 2007, 11:13 PM)
Serves them right! I like Capello and they've been disrespectful towards him... TWICE! rolleyes.gif
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Yep. It's out of order really.

I hope they go another 5 or so years without another trophy for it.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 20 2007, 12:51 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 20 2007, 12:43 AM)
I hope they go another 5 or so years without another trophy for it.
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Barcelona will self-destruct again. cool.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 20 2007, 01:43 AM

IF I WAS A REAL MADRID FAN (dst will quote this sh!t I bet biggrin.gif ), I'd be happy with the result and this pathetic lost vs. Sevilla at home.

This will guarantee some more top-reinforcements to the team. I wouldn't be surprise if Madrid wasted some more 70M/euros or so in the market. Their directors are volatile so this could be the best news for them.

Posted by: dst Aug 20 2007, 07:11 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 20 2007, 03:43 AM)
This will guarantee some more top-reinforcements to the team. I wouldn't be surprise if Madrid wasted some more 70M/euros or so in the market. Their directors are volatile so this could be the best news for them.
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All the reinfircements they got are top-notch! They just need to take the moustached Gérard Depardieu off their bench... a straw man would be equally effective! rolleyes.gif

They'll come for Kaká again of course...

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