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post Sep 14 2017, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2017, 05:49 PM) *
Agreed, we're now seeing the result of what this financial gap has created. All the games were walkovers. The fun has really been sucked out of this game


Liverpool held by Sevilla?

Porto losing at home to Besiktas?

Leipzig getting a point from Monaco?

This financial gap's 'relevance' is a fiction imo. Best team wins on the night. End of the day, plough 500M into a team and you still can't prevent a penalty from Kessie or an OG from whoever.

There's like PSG, Real, City perhaps and who else? Who else has boatloads of cash and has propelled themselves into an unfair European elite?

PS Feyenoord and the Dutch league is horrendous - any half decent UCL team could go there and get 3 points.

PPS Napoli are by no means poor and are on the verge of being a part of this 'gap' - yet got owned by Ukrainians?

There really wasn't a single artificial result over these two match days which presented an unfair gap. If Real play Apoel, they REALLY should tonk them. Not about money.
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post Sep 17 2017, 04:05 PM
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Ousmane Dembele is ruled out for up to four months. Poor Barcelona.
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post Sep 17 2017, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 17 2017, 04:05 PM) *
Ousmane Dembele is ruled out for up to four months. Poor Barcelona.


That is unfortunate.
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post Sep 17 2017, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 17 2017, 04:05 PM) *
Ousmane Dembele is ruled out for up to four months. Poor Barcelona.

They can't catch a break, poor them
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post Sep 17 2017, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 17 2017, 04:07 PM) *
That is unfortunate.


As unfortunate as Pro Evo 2018?
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post Sep 28 2017, 10:05 AM
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For those who care: Italy has surpassed Germany in the UEFA coefficient rankings.

Association club coefficients


Country Clubs Pts
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Spain 7/7 92.712

2
England 7/7 66.034

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Italy 6/6 64.082

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Germany 6/7 63.998
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Huh, I thought Germany was above England.
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post Sep 28 2017, 02:50 PM
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They were until this year -- the rolling average changed and the year where Bayern and Dortmund played in the CL final has rolled off.
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post Sep 30 2017, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Sep 28 2017, 10:05 AM) *
For those who care: Italy has surpassed Germany in the UEFA coefficient rankings.

Association club coefficients


Country Clubs Pts
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Spain 7/7 92.712

2
England 7/7 66.034

3
Italy 6/6 64.082

4
Germany 6/7 63.998

Huh, so just when UEFA give it to us by default, Italy manage to claw the spot back
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post Oct 1 2017, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 30 2017, 09:59 PM) *
Huh, so just when UEFA give it to us by default, Italy manage to claw the spot back


Indeed.
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post Oct 2 2017, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 1 2017, 04:06 PM) *
Indeed.


I admit Serie A's strength has massively grown the past 18 months. It is justifiably ahead now of Germany and is scraping its way back to being one of Europe's absolute best.

I guess the difference with the old days is back then the Milan clubs and Juve dominated the world through Catenaccio and everyone was scared to play them. Serie A was feared.

It isn't now - Barcelona, PSG and Real are the only teams now feared and even then, all of them can be vulnerable now and then.

And also Serie A's top teams as of right now are Juve, Napoli, Roma and Inter - none of whom play in the old school style.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 2 2017, 10:47 AM) *
I admit Serie A's strength has massively grown the past 18 months. It is justifiably ahead now of Germany and is scraping its way back to being one of Europe's absolute best.

I guess the difference with the old days is back then the Milan clubs and Juve dominated the world through Catenaccio and everyone was scared to play them. Serie A was feared.

It isn't now - Barcelona, PSG and Real are the only teams now feared and even then, all of them can be vulnerable now and then.

And also Serie A's top teams as of right now are Juve, Napoli, Roma and Inter - none of whom play in the old school style.

And none of them are exactly feared by anyone.

Roma and Napoli have been bad in the CL every time they've been given the chance to play in the competition. Juve have gotten to 2 finals and completely folded, while Inter have been in as bad a slump as we have in the last few years. A decent start to the season for them doesn't say much as they then tend to press the self-destruct button at some point during the season
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post Oct 7 2017, 03:09 PM
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To be frank, Juve have been unlucky in those finals as they've faced Barça and Madrid both in their best moments.
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post Oct 7 2017, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 7 2017, 03:09 PM) *
To be frank, Juve have been unlucky in those finals as they've faced Barça and Madrid both in their best moments.

Well that's the point of getting to the final, you're facing the best

Real or Barca have been present in the final of the CL for the last few years without fail. So they're the teams you have to beat to win it and Juve have shown to be big time chokers each time
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post Oct 7 2017, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 7 2017, 09:33 PM) *
Well that's the point of getting to the final, you're facing the best

Real or Barca have been present in the final of the CL for the last few years without fail. So they're the teams you have to beat to win it and Juve have shown to be big time chokers each time


We got Liverpool in 2007.
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