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Posted by: Danny Sep 28 2017, 02:13 PM
If our owners have any sense they will fire Montella and sign the new-available Carlo Ancelotti.
/the end.
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Sep 28 2017, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 28 2017, 04:13 PM) 
If our owners have any sense they will fire Montella and sign the new-available Carlo Ancelotti.
/the end.
/the end.
I agree.
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 28 2017, 02:28 PM
Totally.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 28 2017, 02:29 PM
Umm. I dunno. Hopefully he's still available in the winter. This isn't the sort of team Carlo can do much with. Can't recall the last time, Carlo worked with a team under construction.
Posted by: Danny Sep 28 2017, 02:39 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 28 2017, 02:29 PM)
Umm. I dunno. Hopefully he's still available in the winter. This isn't the sort of team Carlo can do much with. Can't recall the last time, Carlo worked with a team under construction.
I'd be willing to give him a year or two. That honour only goes to those who have earned it.
Bayern's loss would be our gain, big time.
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 28 2017, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 28 2017, 02:29 PM)
Umm. I dunno. Hopefully he's still available in the winter. This isn't the sort of team Carlo can do much with. Can't recall the last time, Carlo worked with a team under construction.
"Ancelotti was appointed Milan manager on 5 November 2001, after Fatih Terim was sacked due to poor results"
He managed to get us 4th that season.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 28 2017, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 28 2017, 02:29 PM)
Umm. I dunno. Hopefully he's still available in the winter. This isn't the sort of team Carlo can do much with. Can't recall the last time, Carlo worked with a team under construction.
Well when he took us on we were sort of under construction. We had a lot of pieces that he put together and made them work.
Seedorf, Pirlo and Rino were his tactical brilliance and no one else's
But again, I feel like he wouldn't be the right man for the job atm. For me, the ideal man for the job would be Conte, everyone else is miles behind
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 28 2017, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2017, 07:20 PM)
Well when he took us on we were sort of under construction. We had a lot of pieces that he put together and made them work.
Seedorf, Pirlo and Rino were his tactical brilliance and no one else's
But again, I feel like he wouldn't be the right man for the job atm. For me, the ideal man for the job would be Conte, everyone else is miles behind
Seedorf, Pirlo and Rino were his tactical brilliance and no one else's
But again, I feel like he wouldn't be the right man for the job atm. For me, the ideal man for the job would be Conte, everyone else is miles behind
Conti is unreachable. Between Montella and Carlo, I'd choose the latter without thinking twice.
Posted by: Danny Sep 29 2017, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 28 2017, 07:22 PM)
Conti is unreachable. Between Montella and Carlo, I'd choose the latter without thinking twice.
I don't want Conte. Carlo is the man. The only guy capable of dragging us out of this pit.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 30 2017, 03:09 PM
My only point in favour of Carlo is that he could probably fix our midfield that we haven't managed to make work for nearly 5 years now.
Other than that, I wonder if he's a bit behind the times tactically now. The game has moved on a lot now. This high pressing, aggressive tactics are what seems to be in at the moment.
Posted by: Danny Oct 1 2017, 11:30 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 30 2017, 03:09 PM)
My only point in favour of Carlo is that he could probably fix our midfield that we haven't managed to make work for nearly 5 years now.
Other than that, I wonder if he's a bit behind the times tactically now. The game has moved on a lot now. This high pressing, aggressive tactics are what seems to be in at the moment.
Other than that, I wonder if he's a bit behind the times tactically now. The game has moved on a lot now. This high pressing, aggressive tactics are what seems to be in at the moment.
Won the Bundesliga by 15 points and was denied by a borderline cheating Real in the UCL.
Yeah, he's definitely past it
Posted by: han2503 Oct 1 2017, 02:52 PM
QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 1 2017, 11:30 AM)
Won the Bundesliga by 15 points and was denied by a borderline cheating Real in the UCL.
Yeah, he's definitely past it
Yeah, he's definitely past it
I think coaches have a sell-by-date just as much as players.
Carlo is a great coach, one of the best, but he isn't a modern coach either. With Bayern he didn't have much competition for the league plus he has a top class side at his disposal.
I might seem like I'm contradicting myself because I'm praising him in one post and doubting him in the next but that's just a reflection of how I feel about him coming back. On the one hand I regard him as a top coach, because he's achieved great things all around Europe, we have that nostalgia factor going on as well because he was the last really successful coach we had and he's also a great man manager which is something we need. But on the other hand I don't see him as the right man for job with the group we have now
Posted by: X-Offender Oct 1 2017, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 1 2017, 02:52 PM)
I think coaches have a sell-by-date just as much as players.
Carlo is a great coach, one of the best, but he isn't a modern coach either. With Bayern he didn't have much competition for the league plus he has a top class side at his disposal.
I might seem like I'm contradicting myself because I'm praising him in one post and doubting him in the next but that's just a reflection of how I feel about him coming back. On the one hand I regard him as a top coach, because he's achieved great things all around Europe, we have that nostalgia factor going on as well because he was the last really successful coach we had and he's also a great man manager which is something we need. But on the other hand I don't see him as the right man for job with the group we have now
Carlo is a great coach, one of the best, but he isn't a modern coach either. With Bayern he didn't have much competition for the league plus he has a top class side at his disposal.
I might seem like I'm contradicting myself because I'm praising him in one post and doubting him in the next but that's just a reflection of how I feel about him coming back. On the one hand I regard him as a top coach, because he's achieved great things all around Europe, we have that nostalgia factor going on as well because he was the last really successful coach we had and he's also a great man manager which is something we need. But on the other hand I don't see him as the right man for job with the group we have now
You're making Carlo look like Dino Zoff or something. He's still a very capable coach at the prime of his game. Why isn't he a modern coach? What makes a coach modern in the first place?
Posted by: Danny Oct 2 2017, 02:25 PM
Speaking of Carlo and what he was good at, I just won the Champions League on my first attempt with Pro Evo 18 as Milan.
Leonardo Bonucci finally got to hold the trophy 
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 3 2017, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 2 2017, 03:25 PM)
Speaking of Carlo and what he was good at, I just won the Champions League on my first attempt with Pro Evo 18 as Milan.
Leonardo Bonucci finally got to hold the trophy
Leonardo Bonucci finally got to hold the trophy
I play online divisions, last 12 games one draw and 11 losses.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 3 2017, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 1 2017, 04:52 PM)
I think coaches have a sell-by-date just as much as players.
Carlo is a great coach, one of the best, but he isn't a modern coach either. With Bayern he didn't have much competition for the league plus he has a top class side at his disposal.
I might seem like I'm contradicting myself because I'm praising him in one post and doubting him in the next but that's just a reflection of how I feel about him coming back. On the one hand I regard him as a top coach, because he's achieved great things all around Europe, we have that nostalgia factor going on as well because he was the last really successful coach we had and he's also a great man manager which is something we need. But on the other hand I don't see him as the right man for job with the group we have now
Carlo is a great coach, one of the best, but he isn't a modern coach either. With Bayern he didn't have much competition for the league plus he has a top class side at his disposal.
I might seem like I'm contradicting myself because I'm praising him in one post and doubting him in the next but that's just a reflection of how I feel about him coming back. On the one hand I regard him as a top coach, because he's achieved great things all around Europe, we have that nostalgia factor going on as well because he was the last really successful coach we had and he's also a great man manager which is something we need. But on the other hand I don't see him as the right man for job with the group we have now
But in fact, only a few coaches play "moder" or "up-to-date" football. Take Guardiola (who IMO destroys football teams with his tactics), Enrique, Zidane, Klopp, Conte and Simeone. Who you got left? Allegri? Is he really that modern? Or Spaletti? Bosz? Mourinho? I don't think so.
The one thing we would get with Ancelotti is a seasoned coach with experience, intelligence and a brand of football his teams play. We haven't had such a coach in a long time - from the moment Ancelotti departed.
I really think we gotta build around an experienced coach who has actually won something in his life. All the other options right now are much much worse then Ancelotti, so there's really no debate to it IMO.
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