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post Sep 4 2015, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 4 2015, 06:15 PM) *
Imaging how I feel when I see the hacks that play for Brazil these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And the fudgers that coach them, that always give preferential treatment to players from big clubs in Europe, instead of of those with talent, effort and local fan following behind them.

Point being, Italy may be in a bad state right now, but Brazil is worse.


Brazil have some glorious talent in there but it's been painfully badly managed. Last year's world cup (sure there was pressure too, but these guys can handle it) saw world class players like Silva, Alves, Oscar, Neymar - and the truth is Scolari, like he did with Chelsea, disgustingly mismanaged them.

To not take Moura was just a f*ck up of monumental proportions, and hindsight is easy but he should have taken one old-timer like Kaka to inspire them.

Instead it was just a disgrace. Brazil are a much better team than their current status suggests, but something is badly wrong with how they're being managed now.
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post Sep 6 2015, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 4 2015, 06:15 PM) *
Imaging how I feel when I see the hacks that play for Brazil these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And the fudgers that coach them, that always give preferential treatment to players from big clubs in Europe, instead of of those with talent, effort and local fan following behind them.

Point being, Italy may be in a bad state right now, but Brazil is worse.

At least Brazil has a huge talent pool to pick from, with new players always emerging. The talent pool in Italy has dried up nowadays, with barely a handful of world class players to pick from

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 4 2015, 08:22 PM) *
Brazil have some glorious talent in there but it's been painfully badly managed. Last year's world cup (sure there was pressure too, but these guys can handle it) saw world class players like Silva, Alves, Oscar, Neymar - and the truth is Scolari, like he did with Chelsea, disgustingly mismanaged them.

To not take Moura was just a f*ck up of monumental proportions, and hindsight is easy but he should have taken one old-timer like Kaka to inspire them.

Instead it was just a disgrace. Brazil are a much better team than their current status suggests, but something is badly wrong with how they're being managed now.

Agreed
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post Sep 6 2015, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 4 2015, 09:15 PM) *
Imaging how I feel when I see the hacks that play for Brazil these days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And the fudgers that coach them, that always give preferential treatment to players from big clubs in Europe, instead of of those with talent, effort and local fan following behind them.

Point being, Italy may be in a bad state right now, but Brazil is worse.


An Arab proverb "if it was always with others, you would never have received its benefit'. Somethings are lost in translation, but the idea is; had Madrid always won the European cup Milan and co would not have gotten a chance.

Hence, life is a cycle of ups and downs. same goes for Italy, Brazil and the state of our Milan today. (Or Serie A as a whole)

I like it that way, it gives flavor to the good times. That's my opinion at least (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 6 2015, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 7 2015, 04:10 AM) *
An Arab proverb "if it was always with others, you would never have received its benefit'. Somethings are lost in translation, but the idea is; had Madrid always won the European cup Milan and co would not have gotten a chance.

In Arabic or it didn't happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Besides, I read Arabic much better than I speak it, so if it is possible for you, then write the proverb here, and I'll see if something is lost in translation or not.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 7 2015, 04:10 AM) *
I like it that way, it gives flavor to the good times. That's my opinion at least

You're right in that sense, but I always want the National Team coaches to put out the best possible players they can in all matches. I don't know about others, but these matches are a matter of prestige, maybe even more than club football. Partly because it's yearly, and major tournaments are few and far between.

But when I see politics, and NT coaches playing favorites, that's just bad man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I don't quite see that happening in Italy to that extent, as to what's going on in Brazil right now. Win or lose is another matter entirely, but fielding players that have not earned the call, ahead of those that deserve it, that's just painful. For me, it is.
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post Sep 6 2015, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 7 2015, 02:32 AM) *
In Arabic or it didn't happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Besides, I read Arabic much better than I speak it, so if it is possible for you, then write the proverb here, and I'll see if something is lost in translation or not.


You're right in that sense, but I always want the National Team coaches to put out the best possible players they can in all matches. I don't know about others, but these matches are a matter of prestige, maybe even more than club football. Partly because it's yearly, and major tournaments are few and far between.

But when I see politics, and NT coaches playing favorites, that's just bad man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I don't quite see that happening in Italy to that extent, as to what's going on in Brazil right now. Win or lose is another matter entirely, but fielding players that have not earned the call, ahead of those that deserve it, that's just painful. For me, it is.


لو دامت لغيرك ما اتصلت إليك (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I didn't know you read Arabic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 7 2015, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 7 2015, 04:49 AM) *
لو دامت لغيرك ما اتصلت إليك

Neat proverb! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/friends.gif) Got it nice and fine. Thanks for the share!

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 7 2015, 04:49 AM) *
I didn't know you read Arabic

Oh, but I do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Lots and lots of it. In fact, I'm good with a number of languages, in varying quality (some in reading comprehension, others I can converse in, and a couple that I just barely find my way through). Arabic and Farsi (Persion) I'm pretty decent in, partly because both make up the majority of Urdu.

And plus, I've spent two decades and regularly visit the Middle East.
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post Sep 12 2015, 08:19 PM
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Juve are losing 1-0 against Chievo..knew these massive changes will have a bad effect on the team. Didn't think it would be that bad though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Sep 12 2015, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 12 2015, 08:19 PM) *
Juve are losing 1-0 against Chievo..knew these massive changes will have a bad effect on the team. Didn't think it would be that bad though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Just tuned in, watch them score now that I'm watching...

Btw, the power of Allegri is strong here!
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post Sep 12 2015, 09:22 PM
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lol, penalty for them

Knew it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 12 2015, 09:35 PM
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1-1

Can this now be the time for Juve to panic? 3 matchdays in with only Roma being the biggest obstacle and they just have one point...
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post Sep 12 2015, 09:37 PM
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Cuadrado is a cheating tw@t. No way that was a penalty. He threw himself.
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post Sep 12 2015, 09:37 PM
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Should have had none. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 12 2015, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 12 2015, 09:37 PM) *
Cuadrado is a cheating tw@t. No way that was a penalty. He threw himself.

Well technically speaking I think it was because the Chievo player got all man, no ball.

But Cuadrado obviously played for it and going for the dive was the only thing on his mind as he really had no where to go there.

I mostly blame the Chievo player for lunging, should have just ushered him out of play or blocked the eventual hopeful cross Cuadrado would have tried to play across goal
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post Sep 13 2015, 02:10 AM
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Wow. Three matches played, Juventus with 1 point. Couldn't get any better.
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post Sep 13 2015, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 13 2015, 02:10 AM) *
Wow. Three matches played, Juventus with 1 point. Couldn't get any better.

I think they'll struggle these first 2 months. Allegri doesn't have the Conte core to rely on anymore so it will be difficult for them when things are not working out.

And I was reading a bit of comments from other forums from Juve fans and even they are worried now since they don't have Tevez to bail them out as they freely admit that there were games last season where they were terrible and Tevez got them the points from a moment of brilliance (basically same thing we had with Ibra)

The problem is that I don't think there'll be any team who's consistent enough throughout the season who will be able to de-throne Juve. Roma usually start really well but then falter after Christmas. Napoli are just inconsistent - period. And us and Inter imo are not good enough to make a proper challenge
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