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Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 02:39 AM
All Winter Transfer information regarding Milan here.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Sep 1 2009, 02:50 AM
Can't wait huh? 
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 02:54 AM
haha, maybe I started it a little too soon but lets forget about the summer market. It was surely a depressing one with us spending so little in comparison to Juve and Inter.
Anyways lets move on what are some players you think we will sign?
I think there could be a dzeko arrival and borriello being shipped out if Wolfsburg don't make the cut.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 1 2009, 04:09 AM
such a big word
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 1 2009, 04:25 AM
Buffon, Alves, Sergio Ramos, Ashley Cole, Essien, Kaka', Ronaldo, Messi. After all these years of being tight, Silvio should have a spare £500m saved up for this lot.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 1 2009, 04:39 AM
We'll be lucky to get one fullback and one schoolkid. However a little part of me says Dzeko and Hernanes. I don't know any fullbacks.
To be honest, before deciding on the fullbacks, now that nothing can be done, till December I'd like to see Albertazzi given a run out. Decide his future.
Posted by: Darunia Sep 1 2009, 05:09 AM
Most likely we will sign the fullback we SHOULD have signed over the summer.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 1 2009, 05:14 AM
Gareth Bale..
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 1 2009, 05:50 AM
Good heavens to Murgatroyd!!
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 08:31 AM
Our Club's Information regarding Player values, whose been transfered, transfer records, rumours and any other information regarding Milan. All this is completely accurate:
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transfermarkt.de%2Fde%2Fverein%2F5%2Facmailand%2Ftransfers%2Fuebersicht.html
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 1 2009, 08:32 AM
We're such losers. we're the new Inter. Inter are the new Milan.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 08:44 AM
all player values currently. also its interesting that our foreign percentage is only 37! Its quite shocking.
Posted by: dst Sep 1 2009, 10:41 AM
We'll sign a couple of youngsters and we'll let go of the ones we just bough for free.
Posted by: pacang Sep 1 2009, 11:18 AM
with 1.5 mil, you can get a keeper and defender from milan..
interested? anyone?
is this accurate? Cardacio and Viudez on disposal list?
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 1 2009, 11:28 AM
interested? anyone?
is this accurate? Cardacio and Viudez on disposal list?
I think that Cardacio and Viudez are werry good players indead, i think that B&G terminate the contract coes in January we will sign 4-5 players (Dzeko, Hernanes, Rafhina (EU), Bale and big name like Fabregas).
I would trust this if our circus name wasent Onlly Fool (Leo) and Horses (B&G) XD
Posted by: han2503 Sep 1 2009, 11:29 AM
I'm sure some of those numbers are inacurate
Dinho surely is not worth that much, neither is Janku
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 1 2009, 11:41 AM
Dinho surely is not worth that much, neither is Janku
+1, in that case our most valued player would be 19yo Pato. that's sad for a club as great as Milan; but also shows how bad the management have done over the past 5 years or so in rebuilding (what rebuilding?...
) the squad.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 01:16 PM
Dinho surely is not worth that much, neither is Janku
The price is what we value them at.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 1 2009, 01:47 PM
Oh! No wonder... Since everyone in the management has gone delusional and/or senail
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 1 2009, 03:58 PM
all player values currently. also its interesting that our foreign percentage is only 37! Its quite shocking.
I think those market value prices are so off. Pirlo, Gattuso, Nesta, Zambrotta and Borriello would be lucky to go for half of their 'value'. Good to see our foreign percentage below 50% though, how it should be.
Posted by: Habitant Sep 1 2009, 04:21 PM
pato worth less than ronaldinho? i'd say he's worth double that
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 1 2009, 05:25 PM
Me thinks so
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 1 2009, 06:17 PM
I don't think does market prices reflect the true situation anyway...
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 09:18 PM
Those prices are what we think they are worth. Our management regards Ronaldinho our most valuable player.
However, In reality I'd say hes worth 15m max and Pato is worth 35-40 M.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 09:24 PM
TMW
Posted by: Tennie Sep 1 2009, 09:25 PM
I'm not sure it's the club valuation at all. I think it's a German website's valuation. And no, I don't think it's necessarily accurate.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 1 2009, 10:49 PM
I think they are pretty accurate when you think about it. Especially if these values are from our club.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 1 2009, 11:00 PM
They can't be right, I looked at the Villa ones to compare. Ashley Young £16m? We reportedly rejected an offer for £25m, so can't see us feeling he's worth £16m.
Pato should probably be our highest value given his current ability and potential, not Ronaldinho.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 1 2009, 11:08 PM
It's probably a list from Football Manager or something, that's how realistic it is.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 2 2009, 12:00 AM
How are they values from our club? I don't understand. How could I know if they are accurate or not anyway? How do you know?
Posted by: han2503 Sep 2 2009, 12:03 AM
I think they're estimations. Who made these depends on where blu got the piece from (link please)
And transfer values ar irrelevant, over inflated prices come into it, Pato would surely go for something like 50-60m if a rich club like Man City/Real/Chelsea really want him. Dinho wouldn't go for much unless there's another Man City on the horizon with a filthy rich owner who's trying to make a headline signing for a small club, then he would be willing to pay
Posted by: Tennie Sep 2 2009, 12:07 AM
The link's supplied a page or so back, han. It's a german site with some interesting info but I'm not seeing where they get it from. I'll also note that I'm going to be a little dubious about a site that includes a 'transfer rumor' section and has, on each player page, a note saying 'if you are <insert playername> and have information to add, email us'.
Someone better versed in the reliability of various german sites (La Palma? Fillipo?) may be better able to say how trustworthy it is.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 2 2009, 12:14 AM
Someone better versed in the reliability of various german sites (La Palma? Fillipo?) may be better able to say how trustworthy it is.
Thanks didn't notice the link
Posted by: LaPalma Sep 2 2009, 09:33 AM
I think it's a decent site and I check it regularly. Though I have to admit it's much more accurate for the Bundesliga than it is with other leagues since most of the users are from Germany. And they "make up" those sums.
Posted by: ganney Sep 2 2009, 09:45 AM
Pato should probably be our highest value given his current ability and potential, not Ronaldinho.
ronnie's value is higher then pato's not dor footballing reasons but based on his profile&commercial value
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 2 2009, 09:46 AM
I think they are quite accurate as well. They make sense to me. These are what the players are worth to the market. Obviously Ronaldo was not worth 80M pounds in the market but United did not want to sell him so they went to the highest price possible.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 2 2009, 09:47 AM
I'm pretty sure most teams could care less about the commercial value and would rather have Pato, then having to carry Dinho just so he could sell some shirts.
Fact is Pato could go for minimum 60m imo if a team is desperate to get him. While we would probably get less then 15 for Dinho. Unless its some crazy English club with a lot of cash that want to make a headline/commercial signing
Posted by: han2503 Sep 2 2009, 09:48 AM
Agreed, the inflated prices being paid is what really ruins the actual market values of the players
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 2 2009, 09:50 AM
Fact is Pato could go for minimum 60m imo if a team is desperate to get him. While we would probably get less then 15 for Dinho. Unless its some crazy English club with a lot of cash that want to make a headline/commercial signing
agreed.
The only english club that might even consider paying ronaldinho's market value is mancity. No one else is that stupid.
Posted by: ganney Sep 2 2009, 10:10 AM
We'll be lucky to get one fullback and one schoolkid. However a little part of me says Dzeko and Hernanes. I don't know any fullbacks.
To be honest, before deciding on the fullbacks, now that nothing can be done, till December I'd like to see Albertazzi given a run out. Decide his future.
hernanes, dzeko?......
more like ....
beckham(free loan spell till may2010)
adriano(can sign for an european team for free in january, galliani's probably sucking up to his agent to make milan his client's choice)
fullbacks( they'll sign any experienced guy with his contract expiring in january) .......you'll see!
Posted by: Habitant Sep 2 2009, 07:04 PM
neverson on a free
Posted by: Habitant Sep 2 2009, 07:05 PM
actually no, sevilla sign him first, then we dish out 8m in jan to sign him on 13 month trial.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 2 2009, 07:20 PM
who?
Posted by: Habitant Sep 2 2009, 07:31 PM
mount. everson
Posted by: dst Sep 2 2009, 07:31 PM
Emerson.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 2 2009, 11:39 PM
Emerson.
Lol BRILLIANT buy back
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 2 2009, 11:39 PM
i thought we were talking bout adriano
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 3 2009, 12:20 AM
The Rossoneri are after the young Welsh international...
Sep 2, 2009 9:59:55 PM
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According to English newspaper the London Times, AC Milan and Tottenham Hotspur are negotiating a deal that would see Marek Jankulovski and Gareth Bale swap clubs.
The Rossoneri are willing to give the Spurs the Czech international plus an additional €5 million for the services of the Welsh starlet during the winter transfer window that opens in January.
The 20-year-old has a boatload of potential and can also play as a left midfielder similar to Jankulovski. The report insists that negotiations are already well advanced.
Bale made 30 appearances in all competitions for Tottenham last season, but with the excellent form of Benoit Assou-Ekotto he may have a tough time breaking into the starting XI.
Meanwhile, Jankulovski has been a first team member of the Rossoneri since 2005.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 3 2009, 12:30 AM
I'm not sure what our scouts actually do, but do they not realise Bale spent a large portion of last season playing at left wing, because Bale can't defend? It doesn't make sense, it'd be like saying you hate the Sun when you live in Egypt, so you move to Australia. If this happens, I really have to question to the sanity of the staff at this club on a serious level!
Posted by: Habitant Sep 3 2009, 12:35 AM
problem is marek doesnt attack well either or deliver good crosses.
bale on the other hand, has lots of potential, altough he wouldnt solve our lb problem.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 3 2009, 01:29 AM
bale on the other hand, has lots of potential, altough he wouldnt solve our lb problem.
i would disagree he is great in the other half of field but his Uselessness playing defense has gotten out of hand
Posted by: Protagonist Sep 3 2009, 01:43 AM
With all the above, it certainly will be a non-eu player coming in, since Galliani had already said on acmilan.com:
"Viudez's contract rescission? Certainly, not only for this operation but also for others, Milan now have a free place for a non-EU player to buy during the January transfer window."
Hence, it is clear that a non-eu player will come in and I think it will be just one player that is coming in and not more. Now whether that is for a left back position or not, is all up in the air, but I think Kaladze will be playing on the left when he is back to fitness.
Posted by: Dracoris Sep 3 2009, 02:15 AM
I would bet it'll be Hernanes. We were linked with him a lot in the beginning of the sumer window then it cooled down. I'd bet that he told them he wanted to come, but he wanted to stay and finish the Brazilian league. He seems like the kinda guy that would do that, based just off some of the interviews I've read.
Posted by: ganney Sep 3 2009, 11:58 AM
goal.com........
Uruguayan striker Tabare Viudez rescinded his contract with Serie A giants Milan by mutual consent last week, allowing the Rossoneri to raid the South American market during the January transfer window to fill their vacant non-EU place, as confirmed by chief executive Adriano Galliani yesterday.
“Yes, we have a spot for a non-EU player due to Viudez’s rescission,” Galliani smiled during a press conference, as if suggesting that something will happen in the Calciomercato after the turn of the year.
Rossoneri fans are disillusioned following the Derby della Madonnina thrashing at the hands of Inter, and, despite Galliani’s reassurances that the setback has not dented their title aspirations, the club will presumably look for reinforcements in January.
All indications seem to point to Sao Paulo and Brazil midfielder Hernanes, who was previously courted by the Via Turati directors this summer when Andrea Pirlo seemed on his way out of the San Siro to reunite with former boss Carlo Ancelotti at Chelsea.
Coach Leonardo also reportedly wants to have a new left-back come in after the Aly Cissokho fiasco, but Galliani is adamant they have a ready-made solution in the squad.
Galliani explained, “We have asked [Kakha] Kaladze if he was willing to return to the left-back role and he said, 'Yes.'”
Marek Jankulovski failed to impress in that position during last Saturday’s derby, and it has also been suggested that ‘Leo’ could move Gianluca Zambrotta to the left side of defence with Ignazio Abate stepping in at right-back.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 3 2009, 12:20 PM
Those quotes are more or less accurate -- they appear in Italian on acmilan.com's homepage. Telelombardia has an opinion piece today pointing out that the discussion of having a non-EU place for january this soon after the summer window is essentially a mea culpa about the complete failure of the summer transfer campaign.
Posted by: dst Sep 3 2009, 12:44 PM
What if we had loaned Viudez, would he still take up a place of a non-EU? I still can't believe we simply let him go, especially since we don't seem to be in a position where even E1m can be disregarded.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 3 2009, 01:05 PM
They're right!
I hope it's not the usual Galliani BS and they're actually working on bringing a good player or two in the winter transfer window.
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 3 2009, 02:18 PM
I hope it's not the usual Galliani BS and they're actually working on bringing a good player or two in the winter transfer window.
I think that folowing players will come to January :
Dzeko - 20 Mil €
Hernanes - 10 Mil €
Bale - Exchange Janku + €
Fabregas - I PRAY
Posted by: Tennie Sep 3 2009, 02:20 PM
A couple of things to keep in mind regarding the signing of players:
1. We have ONE non-EU spot
2. People being cup-tied in UEFA competition. After January, we can bring field one guy who played in Europa League but nobody who played CL --- assuming we're still in the competition.
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 3 2009, 02:23 PM
FIFA have banned the club from dealing for the next two transfer windows...
Chelsea have been found guilty of breaking rules by inducing a player to break his contract and as a result have been banned from signing players until 2011.
The breach of rules revolves around former Lens player Gael Kakuta who was adjudged to have breached his contract with the French club when he signed for Chelsea.
FIFA published a statement on their own website that announced the decision of their Dispute Resolution Chamber which announced huge punishments for both the club and player.
The statement read, "The DRC found that the player had indeed breached a contract signed with the French club. Equally, the DRC deemed it to be established that the English club induced the player to such a breach.
"As a result the player was condemned to pay compensation in the amount of EUR 780,000, for which the club, Chelsea, are jointly and severally liable, and sporting sanctions were imposed on both the player and Chelsea in accordance with art. 17 par. 3 and 4 of the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
"A restriction of four months on his eligibility to play in official matches has been imposed on Kakuta. Chelsea are banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for the two next entire and consecutive registration periods following the notification of the present decision.
"Furthermore, the club, Chelsea, have to pay Lens training compensation in the amount of EUR 130,000."
The Premier League outfit will not be able to sign any players until January 2011 and the player himself, who is yet to feature in the first team, has also received a ban of four months.
Kakuta, just eighteen-years-old was voted Chelsea's Academy Scholar of the Year by staff and peers, and enjoyed an eye-catching first year after signing on with the Blues.
Poor CARLITO HAHAH
Posted by: Tennie Sep 3 2009, 02:29 PM
The Chelsea thing is being discussed in the EPL thread.
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 3 2009, 02:31 PM
Dang srry
can u replace it
Posted by: Tennie Sep 3 2009, 02:38 PM
Not to worry, Dzeko. it was just a note that there's already stuff posted in the EPL thread and discussion might be more appropriate there.
Posted by: dst Sep 3 2009, 02:59 PM
Dzeko - 20 Mil €
Hernanes - 10 Mil €
Bale - Exchange Janku + €
Fabregas - I PRAY
You can't seriously expect that to happen. I doubt we'll spend more than 15, if at all.
1. We have ONE non-EU spot
2. People being cup-tied in UEFA competition. After January, we can bring field one guy who played in Europa League but nobody who played CL --- assuming we're still in the competition.
I think we're more concerned about reaching at least 4th place in Serie A so I doubt the second reason will be a major factor this season.
Do you have any idea if a loaned non-EU player still takes a non-EU spot in the team he is loaned from?
Posted by: Habitant Sep 3 2009, 03:24 PM
i think chelsea just gave fester a brilliant idea
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 3 2009, 03:34 PM
Hahahah
u are right +1
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 3 2009, 03:51 PM
The Rossoneri opted not to sign the Mali international...
AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has revealed that the club had the chance to sign defensive midfielder Mahamadou Diarra from Real Madrid this summer, but that coach Leonardo felt it would have been an unnecessary expenditure.
"There was a chance to take Diarra from Real Madrid, but Leonardo told us that we were already OK in midfield," he said, according to Goal.com Italia.
The 28-year-old was widely expected to depart the Bernabeu this summer after the arrival of Xabi Alonso, but has remained at the club after being sidelined for a majority of last season with a knee injury.
Meanwhile, he also discussed left-back Aly Cissokho, who nearly joined the club this summer from Porto before failing a medical due to a dental problem.
"The excellent performance of Cissokho at Lyon shows that we were right [to try and sign him]."
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 3 2009, 04:06 PM
Posted by: vnata001 Sep 3 2009, 06:26 PM
The Rossoneri opted not to sign the Mali international...
AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has revealed that the club had the chance to sign defensive midfielder Mahamadou Diarra from Real Madrid this summer, but that coach Leonardo felt it would have been an unnecessary expenditure.
"There was a chance to take Diarra from Real Madrid, but Leonardo told us that we were already OK in midfield," he said, according to Goal.com Italia.
The 28-year-old was widely expected to depart the Bernabeu this summer after the arrival of Xabi Alonso, but has remained at the club after being sidelined for a majority of last season with a knee injury.
Meanwhile, he also discussed left-back Aly Cissokho, who nearly joined the club this summer from Porto before failing a medical due to a dental problem.
"The excellent performance of Cissokho at Lyon shows that we were right [to try and sign him]."
if we were ready to sign a 4th defensive midfielder for leonardo, Diarra - who probably would have costed around 10 million euros AT LEAST, then WHY THE F*** couldn't we have shelled out 6 for De Silvestri or 10 for Rafinha!!!!!!
and i can't believe that galliani has the audacity to even mention the Aly Cissokho transfer saga! yea, you were right galliani! you went ahead and bought him from porto without berlu's blessing, had him come here and take a medical, give a little "i love milan" soundbite, go on vacation, and then without even telling him pull out of the agreement leaving Cissokho embarrassed and forever embittered towards us. So right you were fester!
galliani, you're stupid.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 3 2009, 06:31 PM
The Rossoneri chief executive has reiterated that they could look at the South American market in January in the hope of unearthing a new Kaka - .
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani hinted yesterday that the non-EU spot vacated by Tabare Viudez, who has mutually rescinded his contract with the club, will be filled again during the January transfer window and further elaborated on the topic this morning as he stepped into the Lega Calcio headquarters.
“We have a free non-EU place, which is something we could not boast last season. We’ll see…” he told the assembled media pack.
A similar situation presented itself in 2003 when Milan released Nigerian striker Aliyu Datti and consequently signed a certain Kaka…
“I want to remind everyone that Aliyu is the player that was sold to Standard Liege and allowed us to free up a non-EU spot for Kaka,” he smiled.
“Who will be the next Kaka? It’s hard to say, but we are working on it.”
Milan sold the Brazilian international to Spanish giants Real Madrid earlier this summer for a reported €67.5 million.
Goal
Posted by: dst Sep 3 2009, 06:38 PM
I refuse to believe he said this! Please Tennie if you see this in an Italian site can't you make an exact translation? That's just stupid, the guy has lost it. No SERIOUSLY, the guys has lost it, this is not just a mad reaction. This is completely idiotic, one of the worst I've heard, he clearly does not know what's he saying anymore and judging from the results I guess he does not know what he's doing either.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 3 2009, 06:47 PM
LOL i was thinking the same thing.
the cherry on the top would have been a statement like
"I see that Messi is very good and that is why I should be sporting director at Milan "
Posted by: dst Sep 3 2009, 06:55 PM
"I knew that Zidane would become great! Up yours Juve and Real!"
Posted by: Tennie Sep 3 2009, 07:13 PM
Here's acmilan.com's translation of what he said:
http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=89815
That's how the Italian reads too.
Posted by: ganney Sep 3 2009, 10:28 PM
all this talk about finding the new kaka almost guarantees that its a south american midfield player that'll be signed.. ..
hernanes maybe?
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 3 2009, 11:48 PM
The Swiss midfielder is thankful to be back in the top flight of Italian football...
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Parma snapped up hot property Blerim Dzemaili from Torino in the closing stages of the transfer window and the 23-year-old has expressed his delight at the move.
"I'm very happy to be at Parma. I thank the president [Tommaso] Ghirardi and sporting director [Pietro] Leonardo for what they have done for me and bringing me to Parma," he told the club's official website.
"I hope to have a better season than in the past, even if they have been positive."
The player excelled in a deep-lying playmaker role for the Granata, where he attracted interest from Napoli, Palermo, Fiorentina, and Lazio, but after ending up with the Gialloblu his role on the pitch could change.
"To me it makes no difference, I can play in all midfield roles," he continued.
"I haven't spoken with coach [Francesco] Guidolin. However, if he wants me to stand in front of the defence as a screen then that's fine by me. I did it for three years and would be happy to play that role again."
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We fail yet again, this guy almost single handedly beat us last year in one of our encounters with torino, i remember looking him up after the game
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 4 2009, 04:16 AM
Meh. There's a reason this guy played for Bolton. Well, I say played, he didn't make one league appearance. That says alot.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 4 2009, 06:34 AM
I hope in the quest for a new Kaka, we don't ignore any other obvious talents. It is not necessary that it has to be an AM/SS who needs to be brought in. I'll take the next Garrincha as well.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 4 2009, 08:30 AM
hernanes maybe?
I would say so, we also freed up a non-eu spot, so that player is probably not European. unless we're going to sign 2 players, one of them from South America.
Anyone thinks signing Yoann is an option?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 4 2009, 09:17 AM
We'd easily have to pay twice what we sold him for. By the way how has he been performing in the new season?
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 4 2009, 11:50 AM
Milan is a "planet" he can lost, above all after the pressing of his family: his sons, Piersilvio and Marina, are not interested to get Milan, above all for the economical efforts that need.
Berlusconi so would be starting polls for yield the club and during a travel in Libia, he could had the first real contacts, maybe Central Bank of Lybia, Lybian Investment Authority or Lybian Foreign Bank.
The idea is to yield the company little by little, avoiding so a sadden change of property. Milan have still ready an investment of 300 million euros for build the new house of Rossoneri, but the project has been stopped.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 4 2009, 12:36 PM
Source?
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 4 2009, 03:20 PM
That is evrywhere Calciomerato, etc etc
Posted by: Tennie Sep 4 2009, 03:26 PM
Okay. Please remember in the future to cite the source of the articles you cut/paste here. Thanks.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Sep 4 2009, 03:57 PM
He is presently top scorer with four goals.
He also has 2 assists (tied for 2nd with many other at this point - still early in the league) - 1st only has 3.
And has lead his team to the top of their league thus far (even though its on G.D.)
CLUB GP W L D Pts GD
Bordeaux 4 3 0 1 10 8
Paris S.G. 4 3 0 1 10 6
Lyon 4 3 0 1 10 6
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Sep 4 2009, 03:58 PM
Silvio to sell Milan...?? What What??! 
Guess he isn't that interested after all? 
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 4 2009, 04:14 PM
If we are sold, it should be to an Italian, not a Libyan dictator
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 4 2009, 11:43 PM
As calls for his exit continue to mount, Silvio Berlusconi is reportedly ready to sell Milan to Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.
You know, I've seen FI pull some bullsh¡t stories out of their asses before, but this has to be among the all-time worst.
I won't even dignify this fecal material by posting the entire article. Dig it up yourselves.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 5 2009, 06:22 AM
Bah...it's already been refuted.
Word on the wire is Silvio plans to disinvest. He's placed in a situation where Finninvest is not allowing any more funds to be ploughed in. As a result he wishes to sell some of his shares, in a bid to bring in some much needed money. Silvio still retains control though.
Hence the meetings with Libyan Bank, Dubai Sheikh etc etc.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 6 2009, 01:24 PM
^^ Telelombardia has a piece stating that the club is essentially up for sale, in part because none of Silvio's kids want to run it.
Tuttomercatoweb has a story suggesting that Milan will go for a striker in the January window (hah!). The names suggested are Luis Fabiano or Paloschi (with Borriello departing). Tuttomercatoweb also seems to think Milan is still looking at Palermo's Simon Kjaer.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 6 2009, 03:14 PM
He also has 2 assists (tied for 2nd with many other at this point - still early in the league) - 1st only has 3.
And has lead his team to the top of their league thus far (even though its on G.D.)
CLUB GP W L D Pts GD
Bordeaux 4 3 0 1 10 8
Paris S.G. 4 3 0 1 10 6
Lyon 4 3 0 1 10 6
Why did we lose him like that. losing both him and Kaka in one transfer window was too hard to take. Yoann would have filled Kaka's empty place much better than Dinho, I'm sure!+1
I want Ferrero!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 6 2009, 04:02 PM
Tuttomercatoweb has a story suggesting that Milan will go for a striker in the January window (hah!). The names suggested are Luis Fabiano or Paloschi (with Borriello departing). Tuttomercatoweb also seems to think Milan is still looking at Palermo's Simon Kjaer.
I cant see Parma willing to depart with their star striker half way through the season. We wont buy anyone in the January window, save for an obscure 17 year old who plays for Pescara
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 6 2009, 07:55 PM
FORZA PESCARA
Posted by: ganney Sep 6 2009, 09:01 PM
u never know, we might have a buy back option.... time will tell
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 6 2009, 09:06 PM
Galliani's too dumb for that
Posted by: ganney Sep 6 2009, 09:46 PM
lol....... he only understands co-ownership deals
Posted by: Patinho Sep 6 2009, 11:30 PM
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=46&a=141140
new kaka!
Posted by: dst Sep 7 2009, 11:34 AM
I thought all of these rumors were false but I actually now believe they're true... just literally true... we do look at these players only in a "hey look it's Simon Kjaer" way...
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 7 2009, 01:19 PM
priceless!
Posted by: Tennie Sep 7 2009, 02:05 PM
Telelombardia has another story about selling the club. This time, they're saying that 35% of the club may be on sale to...someone. They're not sure who but mention that Gaddafi is a possibility.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 7 2009, 02:07 PM
Ha...I knew it. I know the management better than anyone else!
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 7 2009, 03:24 PM
Yeah? what did you know?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 7 2009, 03:38 PM
That there is smoke behind the fire...and that a partial sale would happen if it did. I even posted it.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 7 2009, 04:24 PM
The Rossoneri are planning to move for three of their objectives in January...
Milan are already planning for their winter transfer market, and coach Leonardo will, once again, try his hand for Schalke's Rafinha, Tottenham Hotspur's Gareth Bale, as well as bringing back David Beckham.
According to Il Corriere Dello Sport, the Rossoneri have not successfully answered the left-back question following Paolo Maldini's departure. Marek Jankulovski has been less than perfect, leaving Leonardo with few options.
The report suggests Bale has been highlighted as the next objective, and he could be lured in as part of a swap deal with Jankulovski.
Rafinha, a right-back, is also linked with the Diavolo. The club tried but failed to bag him during the summer, reluctant to meet his €11 million price tag.
A return is also expected for David Beckham, following his spell at the San Siro last term. The voices surrounding Beckham come after La Gazzetta Dello Sport published an article claiming his return is already concrete. However, no official comment has been made on the subject.
The Lombardia-based club also want to secure the services of the 17-year-old striker from Empoli...
Atalanta have added themselves to the list of interested onlookers for Empoli bomber Riccardo Saponara.
The 17-year-old is also being watched very closely by a host of clubs, including league leaders Sampdoria and Italian giants Milan.
Saponara was signed to the Serie B side during the winter transfer market in January from Ravenna, and has managed to impress since his arrival.
Rick D'Andrea, Goal.com
The young Danish defender could be on his way to one of Italy’s most successful clubs.
Palermo’s Simon Kjaer was undoubtedly one of the revelations last season, as his consistent performances in the heart of defence for the Sicilians resulted in him being linked to a number of Italy’s top clubs, after just one year in the peninsula.
Despite this though, Kjaer opted to remain with the Rosanero for the time being, mainly because his club were not willing to offload a player that they consider to be a key to their success this term.
Unfortunately for their sake though, if the Danish starlet is to repeat his impressive form in the coming nine months of football, then this will be his final season in Sicily, as the likes of Juventus and Milan are currently waiting in the wings to pounce on the talented 20-year-old.
According to TuttoPalermo.net, the Bianconeri and the Rossoneri are determined to acquire the services of Kjaer next term, and they are both willing to offer an attractive amount of money for this to take place.
It may be an offer that will be too good to refuse for the Rosanero, however time will tell as the 2009/10 season has only recently got underway.
Adrian Del Monte, Goal.com
Goal.com
Posted by: ganney Sep 7 2009, 04:25 PM
yep, i said the same thing
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 7 2009, 04:33 PM
That's nothing new. People are always ripping my lines off. *sigh* The price of fame!!!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 8 2009, 01:22 PM
The Dutch legend is afraid Leonardo can only take the Rossoneri so far but insists Huntelaar will come good...
Marco van Basten returned to the Stadio San Siro last night as a selection of former Milan stars defeated the Real Madrid ‘veterans’ 2-0 in a charity match played in honour of Stefano Borgonovo, who is suffering from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
And van Basten could not shy away from commenting on the Diavoli’s poor start to the season and the difficulties that could lie ahead for new boss Leonardo.
“I must admit to being surprised by [Milan owner Silvio] Berlusconi’s policy,” he is quoted as saying in the Corriere dello Sport.
“I remember that Milan ruled the market twenty years ago. The truth is that if you don’t buy, improving the squad becomes difficult.
“If the club does not go back to spending, it’s hard to be competitive.”
Van Basten resigned his post as Ajax coach in May and many observers believe he is destined to lead the Rossoneri sometime in the future.
“I don’t know how to answer that at the moment,” he smiled.
“I don’t know what will happen in the future. But, if Leonardo will not win, it won’t be his fault.”
Milan have been conspicuously sluggish in the transfer market this summer, but did sign Dutch international striker Klaas Jan Huntelaar from Real Madrid., a move that his fellow countryman said would prove to be a success.
“He has always scored and I believe, and hope, he will do plenty here too,” said van Basten.
“After all, he is exactly what Milan need.”
Vince Masiello, Goal.com
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 8 2009, 01:31 PM
I guess that explains why he's not our coach!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 8 2009, 01:55 PM
lol yeah he didn't want to work with silvio's short pockets :S
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 8 2009, 04:18 PM
According to tuttomercatoweb, AC Milan have identified Fiorentina striker Stevan Jovetic as their next target and could make a move next summer for the player.
Despite words of encouragement for Ronaldinho in the past, president Silvio Berlusconi has reportedly deemed the player unable to carry the side on his shoulders in the same way as Kaka, who left for Real Madrid this summer.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 8 2009, 04:40 PM
If only that were to really happen. Jovetic is really developing and Fishdoll would love to see him at Milan.
Posted by: ganney Sep 8 2009, 05:44 PM
we won't hear the last of this anytime soon cos any AMF who has a decent game'll be dubbed the new kaka, jovetic is really good though
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 8 2009, 05:51 PM
Jovetic is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!1!!
Posted by: Tennie Sep 8 2009, 10:57 PM
Hrm. Here's a new one.
Tuttomercatoweb say AS is reporting that Milan management have been in contact with out-of-work coach Juande Ramos.
Probably a BS rumor meant to heat things up in advance of the CL games.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 9 2009, 01:30 AM
ok early news this week had us talking to Kjaer along with juventus. Now the player agent says JUVE havn't contacted palermo about Simon...read between the lines
Goal.com
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 9 2009, 02:00 AM
Ramos just shouldn't be out of work, he's a good coach. Football has too short a memory nowadays, his incredible success at Sevilla seems to have been forgotten based on his poor spell at Spurs (When he had a DoF interfere with everything all the time), his time in Madrid was even quite good.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 9 2009, 07:08 AM
Ramos is a coach who can do well with little. But I feel not enough of Sevilla's success is attributed to Del Nido. Now there's an awesome president. He's really put that whole infrastructure in place, which helped the team shine. The scouting, the pay scales everything. Sevilla is probably one of the best run clubs in the world.
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 9 2009, 08:24 AM
This is BS for a number of reasons. (It is TMW, after all.)
1. Fabiano has pretty much told us to go to hell several times ever since attempts at bringing him here were aborted by management.
2. Kjaer is not going to suddenly ditch Palermo after six months and come flocking over here.
3. Paloschi is going to likely stay w/Parma all season, while Borriello, Galliani's wonder striker, won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 9 2009, 10:27 AM
He said he felt let down by us (which I understand) several times and that is different than telling us to go to hell!
Posted by: Tennie Sep 9 2009, 11:54 AM
The guys at 442.com must be drinking the good stuff. They say that Milan are going to make a bid for David Silva in the winter window after minority shares in the club are sold (for lots of money which will then be invested in new players).
Posted by: Tennie Sep 9 2009, 12:40 PM
So, the president of Parma is quoted in the Italian press (tuttomercatoweb, calciomercato, etc etc etc) that if Milan want Paloschi back, they'll have to pay dearly for it.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 9 2009, 12:47 PM
I'd rather wait until summer thankyou very much
Uhh!! Sometimes the stupidity of our management just baffles me beyond belief
Posted by: ganney Sep 9 2009, 01:19 PM
true story
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 9 2009, 01:56 PM
I loathe co-ownerships. we give them some good players and they in return give us this...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 9 2009, 04:13 PM
I don't even get It WTF like why would you make like 5M(don't know paloschi's numbers) one year if your going to lose 10M the next!!!!
It's not like we NEEDED parma's money in the Transfer market :S
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 9 2009, 04:18 PM
The Ajax gaffer has stated that he considers Suarez as one of the best attackers around and that he is bound to sign for a big club next summer...
Uruguayan international Luis Suarez has developed into an absolute star player at Dutch powerhouse Ajax since joining them from Groningen in the summer of 2007. Head coach Martin Jol is confident that the forward will keep getting better and join a big club in the not so distant future.
"Luis Suarez is one the best attacker around at the moment, but I am not sure whether he has what it takes to become the best in the world. He is the type of forward that does unexpected things from out of nowhere. He is not a typical striker though," said Jol to Sportweek.
"He is at his best as a support striker. We have not yet found the perfect position for him at Ajax, but I think he will be great together with Marko Pantelic. Luis and Marko will be a great striker-duo for us.
"Suarez can still get better as a player. The experience of being a key player at Ajax will only help him in his development. There were no big clubs after him this summer, because Luis revealed that he was not interested in leaving the club.
"However, it's impossible for Ajax to hold on to a player of his class. He will join a big club such as AC Milan, Inter or Olympique Lyon in the summer of 2010. Those clubs play in a perfect 4-4-2 formation for him. Clubs of a lower statute can not afford him."
Stefan Coerts, Goal.com
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 9 2009, 04:47 PM
Saw it coming. Personally i dont think Parma will let him go for less than 10m Euros, and to be honest we deserve it for our (the managements i should say) utter stupidity. We all knew that Palo would blosom, and co-owning him was a daft move.
You deserve to get ripped off over Paloschi you good for nothing, retarded management.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 9 2009, 04:49 PM
We're all assuming Paloschi will want to return to Milan. Will he?
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 9 2009, 06:00 PM
I would say fairly likely, moving back to Milan would make him a better player because of the better quality players surrounding him. However if he knows he wont get a game (which may be possible, because we buy 3 washed up strikers) then i dont think he would want to return.
I really hope Parma screw us over in this deal, it would be hilarious.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 9 2009, 07:05 PM
Suarez is a very good player IMO.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 9 2009, 07:27 PM
Actually.. Palo's the kind of player who'll get better the more he plays. In that respect (and considering we have a young Huntelaar)...I don't mind us waiting till the co-ownership agreement expires and then buying him in for a lesser price.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 9 2009, 07:31 PM
But we can't just buy him for a lesser price, surely Parma will have some say? I think Co-ownerships are too unfair, a loan is a much better option with no downside for either. Team A will be having one of their promising players getting experience who they will get back, Team B is getting a promising player for free. Win/win, none of this buying back rubbish.
Posted by: ganney Sep 9 2009, 08:39 PM
a simple loan would suffice but no! those idiots cudn't resist taking 2-3m from parma forgetting they'll ask for 10m in another year
Posted by: han2503 Sep 9 2009, 09:57 PM
Some people have the theory that becuase loan deals don't really benefit the smaller club that much aside from getting a potentially decent player for a year they might not feel inclined to play them, so the bigger clubs co-own the players with the smaller teams so that they play more regularly.
Usually its win win as most of the players that get loaned out/co-owned banish into the abyss of football never to be heard from again. But you get the occasional Boriellos/Palos. But this is where the stupidity of our management plays in.
I don't blame them for co-owning Boriello as I don't think he's really worth it, the fact that our management was stupid enough to pay Genoa 10m after 1 good season is what's ridiculous, so you're telling me that this guy is potentially worth 20m!! Stupidity at its best.
The Palo thing is another stupid deal that I would never understand, they knew he was good, and after the good season he had in Serie B they knew that he would continue to flourish, thus they knew that if they extended the co-own deal we'd end up having to pay serious money to buy back our half come the end of the season, but did our beloved management listen to reason?? NO... they went ahead extended the deal with Parma instead of taking him back and loaning him out again and now we'll have to pay the price to get him back, Big Time. If we had loaned him to any mid table team they would have had no choice but to play him as they know how good he is and can't afford to leave him on the bench for the sake of pride.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 9 2009, 10:02 PM
Your first point is surely even worse for smaller clubs though. What's worse than having a ptoentially decent player for a year (where he might not be good)? Having to pay to have him. I see no upside on co-ownerships at all, it causes too much trouble and makes one of the boards look like idiots. Loans are simple, development on one side, free player for a year on the other. I don't think managers decide to play players based on their status at a club, if you're good enough, you're good enough, the fact they're co-owned/loaned won't come into that.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 9 2009, 10:14 PM
Yes, but when ther smaller clubs get these players at first they only buy half of their contracts and they're getting unknow young players, They pay very little to get half of these player's contracts. Then they're inclined to play them because they payed for them and if they do work out for them they can sell back the half of the contract to the bigger club for a good sum of money, if they don't work out its only a small sum of money that has been lost. Look at how Genoa hit the Jackpot thanks to our stupid management, and how Parma will undoubtedly hit the Jackpot with Palo.
I think the only losers in co-own deals is the big club.
Posted by: ganney Sep 9 2009, 11:00 PM
exactly, this is stupidity at its peak, i remember this guy had already been sent out on loan to at least 2serie A teams, wasn't doing too well& wasn't really scoring goals either
then genoa took the gamble, he gave them 19goals in return.
milan came calling with 10m
they called back milito who they had on LOAN at zaragoza, instant replacement!
they sold milito for good cash to inter
they got crespo on a bosman from inter.
comparing both managements by this just shows our really stupid ours are.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 10 2009, 12:14 AM
then genoa took the gamble, he gave them 19goals in return.
milan came calling with 10m
they called back milito who they had on LOAN at zaragoza, instant replacement!
they sold milito for good cash to inter
they got crespo on a bosnian from inter.
comparing both managements by this just shows our really stupid ours are.
bosnian?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 10 2009, 04:19 AM
He meant Bosman.
Posted by: Ry4n Sep 10 2009, 10:46 AM
I think he would love to come back after he has learnt his trade at Parma
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 10 2009, 01:37 PM
LOL thank you for mentioning Bosnia, new information about Dzeko i spoke with him, he don't feel werry good in Wolfsburg and he is sad coes the transfer with Milan colapsed, he hope Milan will come in January for him as he is crashed in his head...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 10 2009, 01:39 PM
You actually spoke with Edin? Are you guys like best friends or something?
Did he say anything about the new deal he's signed? If there's a get out clause or anything? Can he become a milanfan.com member, or will it be a contract issue? I'd gladly let him become mod. Oh wait...can he speak English?
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 10 2009, 02:02 PM
what's a bosman?
Posted by: han2503 Sep 10 2009, 02:29 PM
Free Agent
Posted by: Habitant Sep 10 2009, 04:44 PM
he was a player that took his team to court when his contract expired and they reduced his wages etc. it set a precedence, allowing players to sign with any team they want when they become free agents.
Posted by: dst Sep 10 2009, 08:00 PM
You make it sounds like Bosman is a word.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 10 2009, 08:53 PM
You make it sounds like Bosman is a word.Its what it means, the player is without a club, therefore he's free, therefore Galliani will sign him...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 11 2009, 04:26 AM
we are linked with Taddei
-TMW
Posted by: Darunia Sep 11 2009, 06:15 AM
Eww no thanks.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2009, 08:09 AM
-TMW
Not surprised... every Brazilian player on planet has to be linked with us at least once. it was Taddei's turn. who's next?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2009, 08:48 AM
Eduardo will probably be next, even if he was born in the very Croatian city of Rio de Janeiro.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2009, 08:53 AM
Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2009, 09:15 AM
LOL
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 11 2009, 09:29 AM
I know what you're trying to do kurt. But the funniest poster of MF award is won over the whole season. Not by these Ibra-like performances.
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 11 2009, 11:53 AM
Did he say anything about the new deal he's signed? If there's a get out clause or anything? Can he become a milanfan.com member, or will it be a contract issue? I'd gladly let him become mod.
Oh wait...can he speak English?No we are not best friends XD i have a lot of common things with Football Federation of BiH, especial with coach Ciro Blazevic so when National Team come to BiH im allways around
Any way Dzeko sign new deal with Wolfsburg in which he earn 3 Mil € per season, Milan were offering 2,5 Mil € but like he said beafore he would play for free for A.C. Milan
.There is get out clause 20 Mil €, there is problem in Wolfsburg too with Martins (seams like Veh adore him)so it's likley that Dzeko will leave Wolfsburg in January.
I don't think he will join Milanfan
but i can give u link to his profile at Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=523091882&ref=ts
He speak onlly German and Bosnia language
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2009, 11:58 AM
Bosnia has it's own language? I feel terrible that I didn't know that..
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2009, 02:03 PM
You should never feel terrible when you learn something new...
I didn't know that either!
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 11 2009, 03:24 PM
I didn't know that either!
Hahaha, Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian and Montenegero are same language :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language
BTW do u ppl know that Zlatan Ibrahimovic is Bosnian, that was problem with Bosnian Football Federation Zlatan wanted to play for our national team but they didn't alowe him so he started to play for Sweden...
New rumors about David Silva join Milan in the Januray TM, it's said that we are willing to offer 30 Mil € for him...
There is Gojko Kacar thing in media too it's reported that Herta will ask 10 Mil € for him.
Any one heard somthing about it..
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2009, 04:30 PM
I thought Croatians speak.. Croatian!? 
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David Silva to Milan? is he half Brazilian or something? bah.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 11 2009, 04:42 PM
(Someone made a mistake and thought that David Silva was Thiago's kid brother).
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 11 2009, 04:53 PM
We already take nepotism to the next level. Is Seedorf and Kaka's brothers still with the club?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 11 2009, 06:35 PM
Any way Dzeko sign new deal with Wolfsburg in which he earn 3 Mil € per season, Milan were offering 2,5 Mil € but like he said beafore he would play for free for A.C. Milan
.There is get out clause 20 Mil €, there is problem in Wolfsburg too with Martins (seams like Veh adore him)so it's likley that Dzeko will leave Wolfsburg in January.
I don't think he will join Milanfan
but i can give u link to his profile at Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=523091882&ref=ts
He speak onlly German and Bosnia language
I thought of sending him an FB request...but I don't think it would be right. I would have to say, I know him through you, and that might not be good for you.
Btw...look who I have on my buddy list: kelly thiebaud !
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 11 2009, 10:27 PM
hahaha
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 12 2009, 08:22 AM
Any way Dzeko sign new deal with Wolfsburg in which he earn 3 Mil € per season, Milan were offering 2,5 Mil € but like he said beafore he would play for free for A.C. Milan
.There is get out clause 20 Mil €, there is problem in Wolfsburg too with Martins (seams like Veh adore him)so it's likley that Dzeko will leave Wolfsburg in January.
I don't think he will join Milanfan
but i can give u link to his profile at Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=523091882&ref=ts
He speak onlly German and Bosnia language
good news, my guess is that borriello out dzeko in come january unless things really change and borri starts bagging in the goals.
But there is a small problem we have, zero money. I hope a section of our stocks can be sold and some money can be brought in because edin is too good to lose out on.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 12 2009, 09:37 PM
Sell all but Pato, Flamini, Pirlo, Pato, Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva and KJH.
RB - Nesta - Tiaguninho - LB
Abate - Pirlo - Flamini
WINGER - KJH - PATO
If today proved anything, is that our CBs don't expect help for the wingbacks so we can get Attacking Wingbacks
all these are 2nd tier players that would IMO help the team (the bolded i feel strongly about)
LB - Adriano (sevilla), Drenthe (RMA), Marcel Jansen (Hambourg), CRISCITO!!!!(genoa)
RB- Corluka (tottenham), Heitinga (Athletico Madrid), Castor (leveurkusen), Srna (Shaktar), Beck (hoffenheim) Also depending on this year i really have taken a liking to Garics from atalanta
winger - Rossi(villa) - - Cassano (sampdo) - Pandev (lazio) - LUIS SUAREZ (ajax)
Posted by: Habitant Sep 13 2009, 02:45 AM
yes to rossi, i wouldnt mind suirez, criscito would be great and drenth would come for a good rpice.
heitinga suck imo
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 13 2009, 06:16 AM
i have to admit i havn't ever really seen him play tht much but i have friend that rate him highly
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 13 2009, 10:59 AM
Yes, they do indeed
.Well, the italian english national coach could tell a good word, wouldn't he?
Posted by: Maestro10 Sep 13 2009, 01:08 PM
If I was to pick, I'd pick a new AM, enough with Dinho !! Get us Moutinho. Then bring in Dzeko and a strong left back.
With that, I think we could mount a challenge for 4th place starting from january. If not, we will most likely slide even further down the table, it wouldnt even be funny anymore people would start feeling sorry for us 
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 13 2009, 02:11 PM
But he doesn't play for us! Hargreaves, I would agree, nothing English about him.
Posted by: dst Sep 13 2009, 02:38 PM
But...
Posted by: ganney Sep 13 2009, 03:11 PM
i'm certain we can't afford him
Posted by: ganney Sep 13 2009, 03:18 PM
[b]Rossi(villa) - - Cassano (sampdo)
adriano- i can only imagine the sevilla management laughing so hard and falling of their chairs when they hear milan want to negotiate for another of their players.
he's a very decent player, saw him play lastnite& i was very impressed.
rossi- galliani would rather pay 15m to parma for paloschi's full ownership
cassano- perfect serie A attacker! him i believe we should buy at any cost cos he scores& creates goals just as well+ he's always a thorn in the opposition defence's side
srna- why not!
Posted by: ganney Sep 13 2009, 03:44 PM
its time to rue the signings we didn't make!
cissokho- its obvious we're in so much trouble at LB
fabiano- he's red hot& his scoring run just won't end. he's pretty much scored in all his recent games including last night against zaragoza.
diego- one would think the idiots selling kaka for 65m would at least put 19m aside to try to replace kaka but they instead folded their arms& watched him sign for juve
hernanes- as all our games so far this season have shown just how flat and unproductive how midfield play as become
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 13 2009, 05:21 PM
he's a very decent player, saw him play lastnite& i was very impressed.
rossi- galliani would rather pay 15m to parma for paloschi's full ownership
cassano- perfect serie A attacker! him i believe we should buy at any cost cos he scores& creates goals just as well+ he's always a thorn in the opposition defence's side
srna- why not!
thank you for the feedback
Posted by: Habitant Sep 13 2009, 05:21 PM
and he should be playing for our national side too
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 13 2009, 05:22 PM
cissokho- its obvious we're in so much trouble at LB
fabiano- he's red hot& his scoring run just won't end. he's pretty much scored in all his recent games including last night against zaragoza.
diego- one would think the idiots selling kaka for 65m would at least put 19m aside to try to replace kaka but they instead folded their arms& watched him sign for juve
hernanes- as all our games so far this season have shown just how flat and unproductive how midfield play as become
Galliani can go to bed knowing he did his job right, he was right to look at these players
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 13 2009, 05:24 PM
our national side is rather weak and pathetic, they all play for the same team, Toronto FC, so the team, while being able to boast being canadian, don't send their players to international competitions
Posted by: Habitant Sep 14 2009, 03:27 PM
vancouver will have a team by 2011, and if all goes we'll ge ours by 2012 ( beckham is a proposed investor, apparently he wants to buy a franchise for us
).things will only get better from here.
Posted by: Habitant Sep 14 2009, 03:28 PM
btw theres a few that play in england spain and germany.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 14 2009, 03:34 PM
Fishdoll has a transfer request:
Gasperini.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 14 2009, 04:05 PM
The Genoa coach?
He has done an awesome job with Genoa, but it also helps that their transfer guy is good and they get quality players quite often
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 14 2009, 05:17 PM
Gasperini.
He's a great coach, very underrated.
He is reffered to in alot of my books on coaching. When they talk about italy they mention his name and Spaletti when they talk about coaches who can produce top sides with extreme limitations and etc etc and other practicalities.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 14 2009, 05:51 PM
He is reffered to in alot of my books on coaching. When they talk about italy they mention his name and Spaletti when they talk about coaches who can produce top sides with extreme limitations and etc etc and other practicalities.
i would love him especially because we can Criscito if he becomes our new Coach
We don't have a gasparini type squad though as we xpect to win solely on reputation and experience as oppose to hard work and pace, skill, tactics
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 14 2009, 11:41 PM
"Milan only look for established players, and Yoann was not initially in their plans," Blanc is quoted as saying by milannews.it.
"Things changed after the season in France, but the player did not have guarantees and didn't want to return to Milan and not play often.
"Only experienced players are playing at Milan - fortunately the lad stayed with us," Blanc concluded.
Gourcuff played some scintillating football with les Girondins last season, and has continued his form in the nascent stages of this year's Ligue 1 campaign.
Bordeaux go to the Stadio Olimpico tomorrow evening looking for their first win on Italian soil.
Vice-president Adriano Galliani talked about this match, as well as about Ronaldinho and Yoann Gourcuff, the young French playmaker who was recently sold to Bordeaux.
"With Marseille it's already a direct encounter to qualify for the next round," he said to SkySport24. "The Champions League was a competition we missed, we're happy to be back in it again."
Ronaldinho's performances so far this season have been disappointing, but Galliani doesn't think it means he won't play tomorrow night.
"Even if I knew if he'll play, I wouldn't say it," he continued. "Leonardo makes the choices, not me or president [Silvio] Berlusconi. Let's not always talk about Ronaldinho, he's just one of the 24 players in the squad."
On the pressure being put on coach Leonardo, 'Uncle Fester' said, "Do you know what our coach said to me? That he comes from the happiest city in the world, Rio de Janeiro, so he doesn't feel the least bit of pressure."
On Gourcuff, he said, "I don't regret selling him. We have to start from the beginning. Milan believed in the abilities of Gourcuff, we bought him for €3 million, and sold him for €15m, we believed in this player. I also talked with him before he decided to go to Bordeaux. He said he was scared of becoming a reserve at Milan. That's the real reason.
"We understood who Gourcuff was when he was still very young and played for Rennes. Then he became an international player, not while playing for us, but at Bordeaux. I think it was a good intuition on our part. I would've preferred him to return, but he took this decision because he wanted to play, it's understandable."
source: goalll.com
Yes you read it correctly. Yoann was not brought back because the allmighty dinho would play 90 min every game and bring milan back to its glory.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 15 2009, 12:45 AM
Who needs yoann when you got a guy with more time on tables then on the ball?
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 15 2009, 10:12 AM
The Emperor has returned to Flamengo, but it seems that even if Adriano has finally found happiness and goals he still thinks about Europe and establishing himself there. The player’s agent Gilmar Rinaldi said to Terra Esportes: "It is too early to think about a renewal with Flamengo. There is the possibility that Adriano will be back in Europe as early as December, although his contract with Flamengo expires in May. Meanwhile, his intention is to do his best until the World Cup, not to interrupt this positive sequence. Returning to the national team has made him very motivated, it is essential that he continues to play well with Flamengo to be taken into consideration by Dunga".
Link : http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=46&a=142314
We should go for him really, proven striker that can bring glory back to MILAN
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 15 2009, 10:30 AM
Where would Dzeko fit in. But otherwise I agree, he'll probably be much better than Borriello. Plus he's ex-Inter.
Only thing is I would want him to have a touch psychological evaluation first. I don't want to end up having our entire transfer funds spent on buying Valium for the bloke.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 15 2009, 10:33 AM
I have respect for Adriano. I don't know how much he earns, but I'm sure it can't be that much at Flamengo and he's gone there to find his form for a place on the place to South Africa. He obviously wants to achieve. With confidence he is a great striker, I can't say who I'd prefer out of him and Dzeko as I just know nothing about the latter.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 15 2009, 11:26 AM
Well theoretically they're different. Adriano is a brilliant target man,while Dzeko is more of a SS. Buying Adriano and Dezko would complete our forward line and we wouldn't have age impacting us for a good 4-5 years.
But I wouldn't buy Adriano at the cost of ignoring our Midfield and Fullback woes. We need one more creative mid, to act as a junction player in the mid-3. In which case our squad would be complete AND have options instead of being reliant on a stale Pirlo-centric 4-3-1-2.
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 15 2009, 11:30 AM
Webzine: La "campagna acquisti" di Berlusconi crea problemi al quotidiano. Webzine: The "recruitment drive" Berlusconi creates problems with the newspaper.
Fa scalpore la notizia - registrata stamattina dall'Unità - dell'ingaggio offerto a Vittorio Feltri per passare da Libero a Il Giornale: ben 15 milioni di euro, distinti in 12 milione di "premio" per la rottura del contratto con il quotidiano degli Angelucci e 3 all'anno di stipendio. Do stir the news - this morning signed by the Unit - the engagement offered to Victor Felts to switch to The Free Newspaper: about 15 million euros, divided into 12 million "prize" for breaking the contract with the everyday activity of Angelucci and 3 year salary. Una quotazione al di fuori di ogni regola per la stampa italiana e internazionale. A quotation outside of any rule for the Italian and international press. L'ultima rilevazione in materia risale all'ultimo governo Prodi, quando furono pubblicati gli stipdnedi dei direttori dei maggiori quotidian. The latest survey on this subject was last Prodi government, when they were published the stipdnedi of directors of major newspapers. Paolo Mieli, all'epoca al vertice del Corriere, prendeva 1,5 milioni ei euro l'anno e Ezio Mauro, direttore di Repubblica, guadagnava 500.000 euro. Paolo Mieli, the time at the top of the Courier, and took 1.5 million per year and Ezio Mauro, editor of the Republic, earned 500,000 euros. Nel 2007, poi, secondo Beppe Lopez, autore del libro, La casta dei giornali, lo stesso Feltri guadagnava "appena" 15.000 euro al mese, il doppio del direttore dell'Unità, ma una vera miseria rispetto all'ingaggio offertogli oggi dai Berlusconi (Il Giornale è di proprietà di Paolo Berlusconi, anche se tutti pensano che le scelte continui a farle il vecchio editore e cioè il presidente del Consiglio). In 2007, then, according to Beppe Lopez, author of the book, the caste of the newspapers, the same Felt earned "only" 15,000 euros per month, double the Director of the Unit, but a real misery over the assignment offered today by Berlusconi (The newspaper is owned by Paolo Berlusconi, even if everyone thinks that the choices continue to do the old editor and that is the president of the Council).
Gli Angelucci avrebbero risposto "invadendo" il campo avverso, con un offerta da 5 milioni di euro per Maurizio Belpietro, l'attuale direttore di Panorama, il settimanale di punta della Mondadori (sempre di Berlusconi). Angelucci would have answered the "invading" the enemy camp, with a bid of 5 million for Mauritius Belpietro, the current director of Panorama, a weekly tip of the Mondadori (always Berlusconi).
A Libero temono le (solite) conseguenze del "dopo Feltri" A Free fear the (usual) effect of the "after Felt"
Vittorio Feltri, si sa, è un grande direttore, perché è cinico e spregiudicato come nessun altro in Italia. Victor Felts, you know, is a great director, because it is cynical and ruthless than any other in Italy. E sa accarezzare la vena demagogica e qualunquista dei lettori che scelgono i suoi giornali. And you know stroking vein demagogic and readers who choose any of his newspapers. Linguaggio popolare, slogan semplici ("tutti ladri", "cittadini derubati" e così via continuando). Vernacular, simple slogan ( "all thieves," "citizens robbed" and so on continue). Ma che succede quando passa a un'altra avventura editoriale? But what happens when you switch to another adventure editorial? Non ci vuole molto per saperlo, per lui parlano i fatti. It does not take much to know, the facts speak for him.
I quotidiani ei settimanali da lui diretti, appena finisce il "doping" delle direzione di Feltri, fanno la fine dei soufflè tirati fuori dal forno: si afflosciano implacabilmente. Weekly newspapers and he directed, just finished the "doping" of the direction of Felt, make the end of the soufflé pulled out of the oven: sags relentlessly.
I suoi ex giornali rischiano di chiudere His former newspapers could close
A volte - come è successo qualche anno fa con un settimanale "storico" come l'Europeo - finiscono addirittura per chiudere. Sometimes - as has happened a few years ago with a weekly "historic" as the European - will actually close. Anche a Libero, allora, sulla base di queste esperienze precedenti, tremano, perché il boom di copie del quotidiano, rischia di sgonfiarsi non appena l'ex direttore avrà varvato la porta. Also be free, then, on the basis of these previous experiences, tremble, because the boom of copies of the daily risk of collapse as soon as the former director will varv the door.
Anche perché Feltri torna a dirigere Il Giornale (che dovette lasciare oberato di debiti, per tutti i risarcimenti ottenuti dalle querele per diffamazione vinte da Di Pietro) che ha un pubblico "confinante" con quello di Libero e quindi è facile che la nuova direzione - che conosce come poche altre gli umori dei lettori di destra - possa sottrarre copie al suo ex quotidiano. Felt also because returns to lead the newspaper (which had to leave burdened with debt, for all the compensation obtained by the libel suit won by Di Pietro) that has a public "neighbor" with the Free and so easy that the new direction -- who knows the mood like few other players on the right - to steal copies of his former newspaper.
A Libero bufera in redazione A storm in the office Available
Anche per questo gli editori di Libero l'hanno presa male. Even for this the publishers have taken to free the evil. Il presidente della società editrice del quotidiano, Arnaldo Rossi - come raccontava ieri Repubblica - l'ha praticamente messo alla porta, dandogli un quarto d'ora di tempo per sgomberare la stanza e restituire cellulare e carta di credito del giornale. The president of the company which publishes the newspaper, Arnaldo Rossi - as recounted yesterday the Republic - has virtually shown the door, giving him a quarter of an hour to vacate the room and return phone and credit card paper. Stessa sorte toccherà a Alessandro Sallusti, braccio destro di Feltri e al direttore generale Gianni Di Giore, che lo seguiranno al Giornale. Same fate will be up to Alessandro Sallustio, Felt's right arm and the Director-General Gianni of days that will follow him to the newspaper.
La direzione di Libero è stata affidata, intanto, all'ex direttore della Padania, Gianluigi Paragone. The direction of Liberia was entrusted, meanwhile, former director of Padania, Gianluigi comparison. Ma la famiglia Angelucci, che controlla Libero - colta di sorpesa dall'iniziativa di Berlusconi - parla di "direzione a tempo", in attesa di una soluzione più gradita. But the Angelucci family, which controls Free - caught by surprise by the initiative of Berlusconi - speaks of "time management" while waiting for a solution more acceptable.
I "servizi" di Feltri, graditi da Berlusconi The "services" Felt, welcome from Berlusconi
Già una volta, Vittorio Feltri era stato la "sciabola preferita" di Silvio Berlusconi, quando prese il posto di Indro Montanelli proprio alla direzione del Giornale. Once before, Vittorio Felt was the "favorite sword" of Silvio Berlusconi, when he took the post of Indro Montanelli own direction of the newspaper. Berlusconi, allora editore del quotidiano (passato oggi nelle mani del fratello Paolo) spiegò chiaramente a Montanelli che, al momento della sua discesa in campo in politica, non era più il momento del "fioretto", ma della "sciabola". Berlusconi, then editor of the newspaper (now passed into the hands of his brother Paul) explained clearly to Montanelli, at the time of his descent into the field in politics, was no longer the moment of "foil" but the "sword". Montanelli non volle piegarsi e fu indotto alle dimissioni. Montanelli would not bend and was induced to resign.
I recenti attacchi di Libero alla signora Berlusconi (alcuni decisamente volgari per tutti, ma non per il presidente del Consiglio) gli hanno meritato una nuova "promozione" del cmapo. Recent attacks Free Mrs. Berlusconi (some quite vulgar for everyone, but not for the prime minister), have earned a new "promotion" of the cmap. Che chi conosce Feltri assicura che al nuovo editore è costata cara. Felt that ensures that those who know the new publisher has cost dearly. Ma con la vendita di Kakà, qualche "spicciolo" per la campagna acquisti del Giornale sarà pure rimasto. But with the sale of Kaka, some "small change" for the recruitment drive of the Journal will also be stayed.
tratto da salvagente,it taken from jackets, it
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Seams like all the Milan money go to stupid newspapers and reporters
This really sux they gave 15 Mil € for Reporters and couldn't give 15 Mil for Cissoko .
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 15 2009, 11:36 AM
Anyone knows what is that three-year plan about?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 15 2009, 11:44 AM
Well similar to how Perez said Madrid would have to spend in one season, what they'd normally spend in 3...Milan are doing the reverse. We'll spend over three seasons what other 'big spender' clubs spend in 1.
The downside is that we'll have a wait for some time before having a complete team. The plus side is since we're picking and choosing our transfer battles...even having some time to lay the groundwork we'd have a much higher chance to win them.
Of course this is what I'm guessing.
It could just turn out to be some major new avenues of financial investment to bring the club back to it's feet again.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 15 2009, 11:55 AM
I don't see anything in their online edition, zeddie. Must be the print edition.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 15 2009, 01:27 PM
Thanks for checking it.
We'll spend over three seasons what other 'big spender' clubs spend in 1. The downside is that we'll have a wait for some time before having a complete team. The plus side is since we're picking and choosing our transfer battles...even having some time to lay the groundwork we'd have a much higher chance to win them.
Of course this is what I'm guessing.
It could just turn out to be some major new avenues of financial investment to bring the club back to it's feet again.
But that'd not be a "plan"
it'd be simply what the club is doing at the moment! moving at 1/3 of the pace we normally should be doing. you know, buying just Silva and ignoring what we need in at least 2 other positions, etc etc. I think and hope it's some kind of investment.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 15 2009, 01:57 PM
Err...that's one way of looking at it. In my view, it's a little different.
Basically, we're not going to get pushed into a deal esp. considering the financial climate vs. inflated transfer prices. If certain clubs are playing hardball thinking to squeeze more out of us, we're not buying.
Similar to the Dzeko case, we're going to wait them out. Force them to sell to us at the price we want.
I could say, the management have calculated the cost of going trophyless for 3 seasons (with only CL income) vs. Financial f@ckdom...and chosen the latter.
But I'm pretty sure it's a combination of both. Transfer market + Wage payment prudence along with other avenues of investment.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 15 2009, 04:59 PM
Realistic Lineup for next yea if berlu decides to spend all the money he hasn't in 5 years
Marchetti
Zambrotta - Nesta - Thiago silva - Criscito
Abate Flamini Pirlo
[Pato*]
Dzeko Huntelaar
*pato can play his free roaming role which he excels at
Edit: Head coach - Gasperini
deph signing Mesto (genoa) ->i have been praising his play for over 2 years npw and e keeps getting better!!!
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 05:39 PM
Basically, we're not going to get pushed into a deal esp. considering the financial climate vs. inflated transfer prices. If certain clubs are playing hardball thinking to squeeze more out of us, we're not buying.
Similar to the Dzeko case, we're going to wait them out. Force them to sell to us at the price we want.
I could say, the management have calculated the cost of going trophyless for 3 seasons (with only CL income) vs. Financial f@ckdom...and chosen the latter.
But I'm pretty sure it's a combination of both. Transfer market + Wage payment prudence along with other avenues of investment.
Well yeah that 40m a year is def needed in order for this plan to work. But what if we don't qualify for CL?
Say we get 5th again? How much more money do you think we'll have to pay players like flamini/pato/silva/dingdong/ etc etc So they stay at milan.
Its a dangerous game were playing and more often than not a club who plays a game like this ends up at mid table.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 15 2009, 05:41 PM
Say we get 5th again? How much more money do you think we'll have to pay players like flamini/pato/silva/dingdong/ etc etc So they stay at milan.
Its a dangerous game were playing and more often than not a club who plays a game like this ends up at mid table.
i think this is in the plans of management and has been for the duration of summer, if we suck this year we get to offload players we didn't want anyways, not that i agree with it but anything at this point to get rid of Ronnie, Boriello, Favalli, Ambro, seedorf etc
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 05:43 PM
Yeah they'll be a major offloading.
All of our keepers are gone.
Favalli/inzaghi expire in june.
I'm sure more will also be sold.
But if we don't qualify for CL then Berlu has to spend or sell the club. I doubt he'll do either.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 05:47 PM
“Milan have no money,” asserted Ponciroli.
“They sold Kakà because they needed money and they have no money to invest.
“Unfortunately, Milan will be just a ‘normal’ club for the next one or two seasons.
“President Silvio Berlusconi has a lot of problems in Italy and he can't help Milan, as he has done in the past.
“I don’t think Milan will qualify for the Champions League this year.”
Stanco is also less than optimistic over Milan’s short-term future.
“One of the most important problems at Milan is not that Berlusconi doesn’t have money, but that he won’t spend it,” he explained.
“The economic crisis that we are experiencing is hurting everybody, and the head of the Italian government, who has a public position, must be an example to his country.
“Moreover, he has many companies. How can he say to people: ‘sorry we have to fire you in order to spend millions of euros on players for Milan’?
“Even Berlusconi’s children won’t allow him to spend money on Milan, and they are always telling him to sell the club.”
So, if Berlusconi has no intention of spending any more money, thus ensuring that Milan have no chance of challenging for major honours, why will he not entertain the idea of selling the club?
“Berlusconi loves Milan, it is his creature,” Ponciroli stressed.
“In Italy he is best known as President of Milan. He will never sell Milan.”
This is a view echoed by Stanco, who added: “Milan is Berlusconi’s toy.”
“Even if he did want to sell, no one would want to buy an Italian team in the current climate. There are too many problems, and too few profits.
“If a rich Sheikh came to Italy to try and buy a club, it is hard to see everyone allowing it to happen for obvious reasons. Once one club is sold, then all the others will have to sell too in order to close the gap.”
So how much money, if any, will Milan actually spend this summer?
“A maximum of €12-15 million,” believes Ponciroli.
“Only Luis Fabiano can arrive, and I believe that Andrea Pirlo will also be sold to Chelsea.”
Stanco has offered Milan fans slightly more hope, but only slightly. “It's really difficult to forecast who Milan will buy because it's Berlusconi's toy,” he continues.
“He always says he will buy nobody (pressed by his family) but at the end (as occurred with Alessandro Nesta and Ronaldinho) he treats himself to a gift.
“Having said this, I think this summer it will be very difficult to spend much. If they sell Pirlo, which I believe they will, it is possible they could then go and invest €30m in the market.
“They will only buy a forward like Luis Fabiano, and a cheaper, younger Pirlo replacement, like Hernanes or Cristian Ledesma, who will become a backup for Clarence Seedorf. If there is still money, maybe a left back can arrive."
With Milan falling significantly behind Inter and Juventus, the likes of Napoli, Genoa and Palermo conducting excellent transfer campaigns, Fiorentina still competitive, and Roma ready to bounce back, the Rossoneri could be facing the very real prospect of not only another trophyless campaign, but a failure to make the Top 4 in Serie A too.
Carlo Garganese, Goal.com
article posted while back. Funny how close they were.
They were wrong about pirlo being sold and they were very close to how much we actually spent. Also Hunt was brought instead of Fab. But they weren't far off none the less.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 05:49 PM
db
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 15 2009, 05:53 PM
that's why i posted that post you so drastically ignored about next year's line up because with no keepers on the squad past this year, we may keep abbiati as a backup to marchetti, we will NEED to get a LB and criscito makes perfect sense then we get Dzeko because berlu likes getting toys at the end of all transfer markets
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 05:55 PM
Right now by getting rid our goalkeepers we save around 8M on our wage bill
Dida: 4m
Abbiati: 2m
Storari: 1m
Roma: 1m
If inzaghi and favalli retire:
We save around 4m on our wage bill.
Inzaghi 3m
Favalli 1m
Thats 12 M right there gone. We can use that open space and invest in a good goalie, a decent back up and a youth goalie from our ranks.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 05:56 PM
LOL! I'm not counting on berlu one bit. For me he's just a figure of the club at best.
We have to depend on ourselves and trying to find ways of cutting useless spending like:
Ambro/seedorf/dida etc.. and using the money to buying players who can do something like marchetti/hernanes/dzeko.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 15 2009, 06:02 PM
We have to depend on ourselves and trying to find ways of cutting useless spending like:
Ambro/seedorf/dida etc.. and using the money to buying players who can do something like marchetti/hernanes/dzeko.
but i mean he can't not buy players for 3 years and expect us to honestly believe he's broke:S
if he is smart he realises that he angered his fans long enough and becomes a hero this next transfer market and signs Marchetti keeps storari as backup(he would be cheaper) we NEED a LB so why not go with a young, WC to be, italian boy with pace, skill and a great shot in cricsito. Then dzeko just to make damir and the rest of us happy
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 06:05 PM
My plan for next year:
We don't renew with any keeper thats 8m on our wage bill.
We dont' renew with inzaghi or favalli, thats another 4m saved on our wage bill.
Sell Seedorf, Oddo, Jankulovski, Zambrotta, Kaladze, Antonini, . Thats a whopping 18m saved on our wage bill.
Sell Borriello and Ronaldinho. Thats another 10m saved.
So out of our squad we would have let go of: 6 by free, and 8 by sales.
And we will have saved 40m on our wage bill.
Use that to buy new players, promote some of our primera to fill the slots. For example next year bring up zigoni or call back paloschi.
Use some of the money we got from sales to purchase dzeko and hernanes. Marchetti is also an option. ETC ETC....
We can easily replace 14 players with promotion of school kids and buying reasonably priced players.
That right there is an action plan where we are changing Milan entirely with no outside financial help aswell as also giving Leonardo or whoever our coach would be a fair chance of actually building a squad.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 06:07 PM
if he is smart he realises that he angered his fans long enough and becomes a hero this next transfer market and signs Marchetti keeps storari as backup(he would be cheaper) we NEED a LB so why not go with a young, WC to be, italian boy with pace, skill and a great shot in cricsito. Then dzeko just to make damir and the rest of us happy
Its not that at all. He's not broke, he's f*cking rich as hell. Believe me 50-100m for him a year on transfers is nothing! As jack once said, pocket change.
Its the fact that he can't spend. If Milan spend 50 m and people ask where this money came from and its proven berlu spent he will be in trouble. People will start accusing him of not caring about the italian people and wasting money etc etc etc...
He's in a tight fix where he can't do anything. His hands are tied.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 06:16 PM
We need to walk away from this idea that in order to have a good squad, money needs to be pumped out every season. Its wrong and is not the truth! Sure its easier but puts the club in a risk where if one day they can no longer afford to make the payments on loans the club is over.
There are so many good cheap players in the market that we did not even consider its funny.
Kuzamanovic from fio sold for under 10m
Di Silvestri from Lazio sold for under 10m
These two are some of the most promising youngsters in the world.
Sneijder sold for 15m. There right there is a worldclass MF. He can replace anyone in our starting line up.
etc etc..
If anyone takes the time, I'm sure we can make a list of at least 10-20 possible cheap or free transfers that could have been snapped up.
We have to be smart and act when given the chance. Unfortunately we are stupid and dont.
Posted by: dst Sep 15 2009, 06:19 PM
Man, have you only being studying tactics? What about management, no team will ever replace 14 players in one summer.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 15 2009, 06:45 PM
haha it says alot about the state if the team, that some are suggesting a soccermanager.com type overhaul
Posted by: Habitant Sep 15 2009, 06:47 PM
no but look at our starting is basically last years - kaka + thiago + hunt.... bringing 2-3 more player would not be that crazy considering how cheap some players where being sold for
Posted by: ganney Sep 15 2009, 07:55 PM
We should go for him really, proven striker that can bring glory back to MILAN
i'm sure galliani's been monitoring this situation, he'd never miss this sort of free signing
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 08:00 PM
Yeah just shows you how crazy our situation really is. If we want to be competitive, that is the kind of change we need.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 15 2009, 08:32 PM
I don't think the changes suggested above are either realistic or likely.
Too many people going out (I don't think Pippo should just be shown the door, for example, and I doubt they'll get rid of Seedorf), transfer wishlists that I'm not sure are really all that possible, and too many changes to integrate in one transfer window.
Berlusconi may be gearing up to sell the club -- there's a lot of speculation about that in Italy -- but if he's doing that, he's not going to handwave massive changes like those suggested. I'd think perhaps 4 new players would be the most over the summer (not willing to speculate yet on January).
Posted by: dst Sep 15 2009, 08:57 PM
Competitive for what, avoiding relegation? Replacing 14 players in one transfer window is completely ridiculous and will never ever happen.
Posted by: ganney Sep 15 2009, 09:00 PM
thats already impossible as we can barely afford another signing, who'll we replace the 14 guys wiv?
Posted by: Darunia Sep 15 2009, 09:29 PM
Oops wrong thread
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 09:50 PM
Too many people going out (I don't think Pippo should just be shown the door, for example, and I doubt they'll get rid of Seedorf), transfer wishlists that I'm not sure are really all that possible, and too many changes to integrate in one transfer window.
Berlusconi may be gearing up to sell the club -- there's a lot of speculation about that in Italy -- but if he's doing that, he's not going to handwave massive changes like those suggested. I'd think perhaps 4 new players would be the most over the summer (not willing to speculate yet on January).
If you guys read my post you would know I didn't say 14 signings. I said 14 new players with the inclusion of prima.
Also it is very possible. Getting rid of the high salary player and signing players with average to low salary who can do the job like kuza or silvestri type players would cost us 1-2 million in the wage bill and the rest could be adjusted to the transfer budget.
It can be realistic and will leave the door open for improvement. While keeping seedorf and the rest will only continue to hinder milan.
I'm not saying throw Inzaghi out the door. His contract is up he'll be 37, give him a staff job or give him the choice of competing with pato/huntelaar/newstriker/palo etc.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 15 2009, 09:51 PM
However, Under berlu yes it is not possible. But i said if berlu did not exist and we wanted the club to be competitive for the long run without the need of spending.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 16 2009, 06:15 AM
Now that we got the Hunter, I wouldn't mind Adriano anymore. he can be a good addition in January. I really feel the need for us to do something to to piss Inter off he's not a priority though, and AM, one or two FBs... that's where we need reinforcements first.
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 16 2009, 06:58 AM
Us getting Adriano wouldn't piss off Inter in the slightest. Rather, they'd enjoy another laugh at our expense because he's an idiot and they were more than glad to be rid of him.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 16 2009, 07:15 AM
I'm pretty sure those were the exact same emotions they had when we took Seedorf and Pirlo.
Anyway, I would think for winter transfers we need to look at:
Fullbacks: Miguel, Criscito
Midfield: Hernanes, Veloso, Moutinho
Forwards: Dzeko, Adriano
My fullback list is probably not the best, but I really don't know of any top class players operating out there who can be realistic transfers. I think Miguel is a decent player, and has CL experience to boot. He's also good enough for his NT at times. But yes he can be inconsistent and even Oddo-ish at times.
I like both the Portuguese mids. Though Veloso is an additional DM, I think he's a better passer and shooter than the bunch we've got at the moment. Moutinho would be our extra AM. If we can land the two forwards mentioned, then we're on paper one of the best attacks around. Moutinho's a bit of a gamble, but I think he's pretty darn good.
Btw...Gourcuff is out saying, he won't mind coming back to Milan. Says earlier there was no guarantee of his finding space, but now there is.
Of course we'd have to pay 25 million at least for him, and I'd rather land Moutinho for 7-8 million less.
Posted by: Panama Devil Sep 16 2009, 07:39 AM
At the beginning of last year, when Ronaldhino arrived ... I believe he was playing pretty decently ... at one point he was our top scorer ... he scored a wonderful header in the AC Milan - Inter classic ... WHAT HAPPENED?
Everybody talks about an injury ... but the fact is ... he was never played again!!!
What was the formation used when he was on the field?
Wasn't it:
...................................Pato
.................Ronaldhino.................Kaka
...........Gattuso.............Pirlo.............Flamini
.....Janku........"Various"..........Maldini........Zambro
He did pretty well!
Anybody remembers what was the formation used when he played at Barca????
I think that he has never played as a trequartista ... I remember he played more on the left side at Barcelona and he played on the right side during his growth at the Brazilian team.
I think he is currently not playing in his confort zone.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 16 2009, 08:08 AM
Personally I'm pretty confident one of the two reasons why he didn't come back was because he was told that he had to compete for a place with (or be a sub for) Ronaldinho (the other being our managment's stupidity in giving Bordeaux the option to buy him for 15m). because ever since the moment we sold Kaka, Dinho was announced by Berlu as the new Kaka, his direct replacement, the best player in the world, etc etc etc. no wonder why Yoann didn't want come back.
I think we would be in a better position if we had Yoann rather than Dinho as our AM...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 16 2009, 08:16 AM
He was playing alongside Kaka' who demanded all the attention from the opposition. But he got lazy last season, in my opinion, he thought the good start was enough to win people over, but his embarassing performances in the last half weren't enough to keep that support. This season there is no Kaka' to divert attention and he can't handle it.
Posted by: Panama Devil Sep 16 2009, 08:39 AM
The way I see it:
Let's take the current UCL Champions as example.
Their midfield has players willing to fight for the ball and that at the same time ... ARE able to give a good pass and even score goals!!! They might use one hot tireless warrior in that formation. Xavi and Iniesta FIGHT FOR THE BALL and deliver excellent passes and score goals!!!
WE USUALLY PLAY:
Gattuso> true warrior but cannot perform a good pass or a good consistent shot;
Flamini> another warrior who can sometimes deliver acceptable passes and sometimes creates danger;
Pirlo> plays in front of the defense with a defensive role but is able to make good shots and very good passes;
Ambrosini> plays also a defensive/enforcer role and is sometimes dangerous on the air;
What do you see wrong here everybody??????????????
We look like a teams that wants to play only on counter attack .... AND WE STINK ON THAT!!!!!!
Pirlo is a player with offensive capabilities playing on a defensive role and place in the formation.
Gattuso is a defensive player with ABSOLUTELY NO offensive capabilities and usually is ahead of Pirlo on the field;
Flamini was brought here because his fighting spirit was like Gattuso's and you can usually see him trying to help in the attack;
Ambrosini is also a defensive player that usually launches reckless attacks because he is not an offensive player.
When Barca attacks ... that teams attacks you with an average of 5-6 or even players (counting fullbacks) that ARE able to shoot the ball on target and there's a chance a goal is scored.
When we attack ... we only attack with maybe 3 player that can create danger ... the rest cannot shoot the ball well and sometimes Pirlo is too far behind.....
We have to stop playing ONE DIMENSIONAL PLAYERS (I KEEP SAYING THIS). A few years ago, we played Sheva, Pippo, Kaka/Costa, Seedorf, Cafu and Pirlo joined the attack more than now. They were all younger and they were all able to score. ALMOST 6 PLAYERS capable of creating danger!!! Only Gattuso was the one dimensional player on the field and was a lot younger.
Now we play: older Pirlo, older Gattuso, plus Flamini (brought because he resembled Gattuso) or we include older Ambrosini.
On the attack we have older Seedorf and nasty Ronnie.
OUR PROBLEMS ARE VERY CLEAR !!!!!!!!!
If we played 4 Abates on the midfield we would be a better team.
Gattuso is not performing ... we love him ... but he's older and he's not ageless Maldini, use Flamini instead. Let Flamini play in front of the defense and place Pirlo a little bit further in the attack with Seedorf. Now those two need to fight for the ball. Pirlo has done it almost all his carrer and last year Seedorf demonstrated that he is perfectly capable of doing it. Let Dinho play on the left side and Pato and Hunter in the front.
Something like this:
.........................Hunter
......................................Pato
....Dinho
............Seedorf .................. Pirlo
............................Flamini
..Janku ....... Silva ........... Nesta ....... Zambro
Dinho and Pato can try from the flanks together with the fullbacks, Hunter on the middle and if the ball is backed, Pirlo and Seedorf can shoot and defend.
At least for now until the old guys are replaced by (PLEASE) players that fight and shoot. (Stop hiring guys that only fight for the ball and shoot it like my grandmother!!!!)
We can even sit one the strikers and replace him with young Abate and place him next to Flamini.
With a formation like this ... it's gonna be a lot easier for the fullbacks to try an attack.
I think that this will open the field and widen our options.
Right now we have Dinho trying to invent something with the supporting cast of Ambrosini, Gattuso and Flamini. No wonder we don't score!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 09:51 AM
Of course we'd have to pay 25 million at least for him
if i were dinho when i read this i'll either hang myself or hang up my boots, i like gourcuff's new confidence(he's certain he'll brush dinho aside for a starting place)
lets overlook galliani's stupidity and have faith that there indeed may have been a buy-back agreement in the gourcuff deal, i'm guessing so cos they already agreed the 15m price when taking him on loan, madrid/sevilla have a similar agreement on the negredo deal, villareal/man utd also have one on rossi, its usually valid for about 2-3 seasons, seeing as he's already won the french league has also already has a good footing in the natianal team, the milan situation might favour him
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 09:56 AM
Something like this:
.........................Hunter
......................................Pato
....Dinho
............Seedorf .................. Pirlo
............................Flamini
..Janku ....... Silva ........... Nesta ....... Zambro
i actually like this set up but i'm afraid dinho'll still be the weakest link as he's clearly lost more than a yard of pace. janku also, leaving us totally vulnerable on the left side
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 16 2009, 09:59 AM
I don't know. I kinda think that in the above situation we're getting overrun in mid-field. One DM is simply not sufficient anymore.
Anytime the fullbacks go up, our DMs have to cover that space. Zambro and Janku are not the Cafu and Sergio of old who can do a top notch job attacking and defending. But if they stay defensive, then we have no width.
It's getting more and more difficult to accomodate R80 in the line-up. To accomodate R80 is to shackle Pirlo, when at the moment a free Pirlo can give us 10x the quality R80 does.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 16 2009, 10:03 AM
I'm beginning to think Pirlo is a hinderance to this club and the way we play. I think at the moment we're a worse player without him, but when he plays we seem to need 2 DMs, because he can do nothing defensively, his lack of pace means we need to play with 2 players in a more advanced role than him, otherwise we will create nothing.. it doesn't really give us much option on the way we play.
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 10:03 AM
Anytime the fullbacks go up, our DMs have to cover that space. Zambro and Janku are not the Cafu and Sergio of old who can do a top notch job attacking and defending. But if they stay defensive, then we have no width.
It's getting more and more difficult to accomodate R80 in the line-up. To accomodate R80 is to shackle Pirlo, when at the moment a free Pirlo can give us 10x the quality R80 does.
quality wing backs are the answers to our problem, in the old days cafu could pick the target man from the half-way line,
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 16 2009, 10:04 AM
Cafu could do anything. 
And Sergio was the fastest FB in the world.
Hence back to the question: Who are the top FBs operating today, who we can realistically buy, and who will fit into what is required in our team. Attacking depth!
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 10:04 AM
what do you guy feel about kolarov, i'v been watching him a lot since late last season, he's been very consistent
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 10:06 AM
And Sergio was the fastest FB in the world. Hence back to the question: Who are the top FBs operating today, who we can realistically buy, and who will fit into what is required in our team. Attacking depth!
Bayern Munich have joined the list of suitors for Lazio defender Aleksandar Kolarov, according to Sportal.it.
After a couple of disappointing seasons in Europe, Bayern are looking to reinforce their squad in all areas and made several additions to their squad in the previous transfer window.
Having failed to prise Rafinha from Schalke this summer, the Bavarians have turned their attention to the Biancocelesti left-back, who has impressed with his ability to attack down the flank and possesses a powerful strike.
Kolarov's current contract runs until 2012, with a salary of approximately €250,000-per-season.
Reports have also suggest the 23-year-old is being tracked by Italian giants Juventus, Inter and Milan
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 16 2009, 10:08 AM
And Sergio was the fastest FB in the world. Hence back to the question: Who are the top FBs operating today, who we can realistically buy, and who will fit into what is required in our team. Attacking depth!
Ashley Cole and Maicon, probably the only 2 full backs I can think of that can be considered 'World Class' in both their defensive and attacking parts of their game. Oh, you said realistic.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 16 2009, 10:09 AM
What we need is not a replacement for Pirlo, but a replacement for the 2 DMs strategy. And the reason the 2 DMs are there is to provide support for the defence. The reason we need support for the defence is coz anytime the FBs go up in attack, because of our lack of quality in the wide areas- the DMs have to provide cover. Often we are so stressed for width, overlapping play involves these DMs. Hence why we often see Ambro playing on the left flank.
Get us quality fullbacks. The original 4-3-1-2 was:
Cafu--Nesta--Paolo-----Sergio
---Rino---Pirlo---Zee---
--------Rui/Kaka------
-----Sheva--Pippo-----
Spot the difference. We have a HUGE dip in quality in the width department. Everything else we can compensate to a degree. This is not the 4-3-1-2 of 2008, but ~2004-2006 when we were lethal and didn't depend on Kaka to score alone.
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 10:09 AM
unbelievable, here we are paying dida 4m/season
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 16 2009, 10:14 AM
Kolarov isn't that top class. And you can be assured he won't come to Milan for the same amount of pay. I haven't seen much in Kolarov to convince me he should play for a much bigger club. Big fish in small ponds must always be treated with suspicion. See how we went with Oddo, Oliveira etc.
@kurt: You see how we're stuck??!! It's hopeless to look for fullbacks of the quality we used to have.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 16 2009, 10:26 AM
I like Srna to be honest and I know alot on here would like him. He was one of Croatia's few decent performers against England and the only downside to him is his ariel ability as Gerrard beat him to 2 headers for goals. But Gerrard is a big guy and it's not often you come up against wingers of his size, I think defensively he looked sharp and didn't get beaten often and going forward he's very good. I think we should make a move for him, then whoever out of Zambrotta/Oddo/Janku/Antonini/etc is on form can play on the other side.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 16 2009, 10:29 AM
Fishdoll is a big fan of Srna. Would love to see him at Milan.
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 10:36 AM
I haven't seen much in Kolarov to convince me he should play for a much bigger clubits a gamble i'm convinced we should make, we currently don't have any LB performing that consistently, btw as kurt mentioned there aren't too many top class FB out there+ his serie-a experience will help too
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 10:37 AM
i'm sure we all agree on this one
Posted by: han2503 Sep 16 2009, 11:29 AM
Anytime the fullbacks go up, our DMs have to cover that space. Zambro and Janku are not the Cafu and Sergio of old who can do a top notch job attacking and defending. But if they stay defensive, then we have no width.
It's getting more and more difficult to accomodate R80 in the line-up. To accomodate R80 is to shackle Pirlo, when at the moment a free Pirlo can give us 10x the quality R80 does.
It is not Jack, we're totally clueless when we play the 2 DMs, fact is Pirlo shouldn't be playing in that holding position anymore, it holds him and the team back. Let one of the DMs play in their natural positions instead of the right and left of midfield.
And when do our fullbacks attack exactly? Zambrotta barely makes it past our own half most of the time and Janku is just a horribly bad defender, which if you think about it so was Sergio, but we still only played with one DM back then. Our current setup no one is doing the covering, look at where Flamini and Ambro were for most of yesterday's game, up be the corner flag!! Why are the guys that are supposed to be covering playing as wingers? Bad wingers at that. They're not doing anything of what you think we need (covering the fullbacks) we should play a diamond, give Seedorf and Pirlo the center left and right positions and one of the DMs a bit further back, he sits in front of the defence and gives the ball quickly to Seedorf/Pirlo not try to go up the wing, this is stupid logic imo.
Pirlo has nothing to do with R80, both can be in the line-up, let Dinho play as the attacking mid, but he needs to ball delivered to his feet, that's where Pirlo and Seedorf come in. Everyone is blaming Dinho for being non existant but I blame our retarded system, it always goes this way, the ball goes from one of the CBs to Pirlo, Pirlo passes to one of the DMs he gets it back while the DM for some strange reason make a run down the flank, Pirlo lobs him the ball, the DM delivers a terrible ball into the box, we lose the ball and start all over again. Nothing is more retarded then this, and its not Leo its been going on for a while now. Of course Dinho and the strikers are barely touching the ball, its not their fault. Dinho and Pato had to drop into our own half to touch the ball against Livorno, how is that their fault???
Imo, with the team we have we can play far better, there is no reason why Genoa and Lazio should be above us in that table because we have a superior team, techinically speaking its superior to Inter's but if we keep on playing like this, with this stupid system that we've been playing for the past 3 years we won't even make it to the Europa League.
I would like to see us play like this
DM
Seedorf--Pirlo
Dinho
ST--Pato
I don't care who gets the DM position, all 3 can do the job, they're actually going to be in their natural position not in some stupid winger position.
Hunter or Pippo, whoever's in form gets to play.
If Dinho is not cutting it, play Abate on the right and move Pato out wider on the left
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 16 2009, 12:14 PM
Dzeko still sick about Milan
Slowly began to raise voices that say Džeko no motive to play for Wolfsburg, that stands above the team, and that in favor of German journalists say the fact that the defeated Wolfsburg in training fite with Karim Zianijem. Goals, however, still lacking, and the pressure is increasing.
"It is easy to say that not playing the best because I wanted to go this summer in Milan, but it's not true," says Džeko, who was in the Bundesliga this season, scored only one goal for ESPN.
"The problem is not what I wanted at all costs to leave Wolfsburg, but in what for me has shown interest in Milan. I was flattered, because for me one of the world's biggest clubs, which I support from an early age. I imagined how to put on the jersey famous red and black stripes on the lawn and run on the San Siro. I had a chance to play it for Milan, but I did not and I need some time to leave behind, "says Džeko.
"Also, do not occur so often that one club to offer you 30 million. When I was connected with some other big clubs, like Arsenal's say, I replied that I was still young and that I would like to develop in the Bundesliga. However, When I heard that Milan is looking for me, I confess, I was not rational. You know, it's like to get a dream, "said Jack.
With only 23 years, Dzeko was perhaps better that he stayed one more season in Wolfsburg. However, to re-sparked interest in large clubs, his goals are needed.
"It used to be I wonder whether the possibility of coming to a big club once again. I'm not a mega-star, but I am a young professional, who played only 18 months in the Bundesliga. I forgot what Wolfsburg did for me. I have a chance to play in Champions League and ambitions of the club are great. Our success from last season, saying that nothing is impossible, "according to Dzeko.
Source : http://sportsport.ba/bh_fudbalp-23831.htm
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 16 2009, 12:19 PM
That bit's the key. If he wants a move to Milan, then he better start playing like he deserves it. I haven't seen him play this season, but by the sounds of it he's doing a Dwight Yorke until he gets his big move.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 16 2009, 02:53 PM
Sell all but Pato, Flamini, Pirlo, Pato, Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, KJH and i actually am one of few who say keeping di gennaro can be a good idea. We can then shift onto a 4-3-3 with shads of a 4-3-2-1(only because pato and [winger] would roam alot trying to feed KJH
GK
RB - Nesta - Tiaguninho - LB
Abate - Pirlo - Flamini
WINGER - KJH - PATO
GK - Akinfeev(CSKA), FELIPE!!!! (corinthians), Curci (Siena), Marchetti(calgriari), Ochoa (club america), Muslera(lazio), HANDANOVIC(udinese)(Forza slovenija) Arsenjo (athelico)
LB - Adriano (sevilla), Drenthe (RMA), Marcel Jansen (Hambourg), CRISCITO!!!!(genoa), Fucile (porto), Ansaldi (rubin)
RB- Corluka (tottenham), Tasci (stuttgart), Castor (leveurkusen), Srna (Shaktar), Beck (hoffenheim), Ilsinho (Shaktar), GIANDOMENICO MESTO!!!(genoa)
winger[i really would not mind any of these, i wish to have all of them equally]
Rossi(villareal) - - Cassano (sampdo) - Menez (roma) -Rosina (zenit) - Luis suarez (ajax) - Dzeko (Wolfsburg) - Guilhelme (CSKA) - Agbonlahor (aston) (sorry kirt )
This took me a while so please comment
Edit: Mesto plays at mid at the moment but he has played at RB alot and has amazing skill.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 16 2009, 03:06 PM
oh and i share tennie's opinion of who our next coach should be, Forza gasperini!
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 16 2009, 04:53 PM
We're also paying Pirlo 5m per season. What's your point?
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 16 2009, 04:58 PM
His point is one features in 95% of games while the other is 4th choice back up.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 16 2009, 05:09 PM
haha don't go after Miz her next argument is dida should be starting at that price
Posted by: Darunia Sep 16 2009, 05:49 PM
What about Gael Clichy? His form has been down the last year and a half, and Wenger has Traore and Gibbs waiting for a shot at LB. He'd be more of a summer target, anyways I'm just dreaming =/
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 16 2009, 05:51 PM
he said he would never leave arsenal at the risk of being anther Hleb
Posted by: ganney Sep 16 2009, 05:58 PM
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my point is dat we're wasting all dat money, as blue said he's currently 4th choice GK, nothing against him but i'd have expected him to peacefully cancel his contract and find a team that'll pay&play him too, he used to be so great
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 16 2009, 09:28 PM
my point is dat we're wasting all dat money, as blue said he's currently 4th choice GK, nothing against him but i'd have expected him to peacefully cancel his contract and find a team that'll pay&play him too, he used to be so great
Why would Dida cancel such a lucrative contract?
I would be happy if i was being paid 4m p/a just to laze around
Posted by: han2503 Sep 16 2009, 09:28 PM
I would be happy if i was being paid 4m p/a just to laze around
Exactly
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 17 2009, 05:40 AM
So because he's not playing right now, he's "lazing around" in the meantime? **** this.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 17 2009, 06:30 AM
Look, why do you get angry when people insult Dida? He is not wanted by the majority of the fans in the club and probably should have left the club earlier. Furthermore, he earns 4m a year. That means that he is one of the best players on our squad. He is a top asset. That is why he earns 4m a year.
But he is not. In fact he's 4th choice goal keeper. He is behind Storari and Roma for gods sake. Thats just sad.
Given our finanical situation and our strict policy on not wasting money; a 4th choice goal keeper earning 4m just isn't right. Thats why people want him gone. He is a holding back the club with his huge wage.
but hey I know he's your favorite player and it must suck having to deal with these comments, but that is the reality of the situation. So save yourself the time and stress and just ignore the comments. There going to come until the day he has left milan. To many people Dida is looked as a greedy, lazy, unmotivated goal keeper who is just sucking milan dry as much as he can before he retires.
just my 2 cents. But do whatever makes you happy.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 17 2009, 08:07 AM
The question though is why is Dida still 4th choice? Either he is pushed to first choice, or he must get a paycut. But pushing him to 4th choice is a little unfair on Storari and Abbiati. Abbiati was rightfully first choice and on current form Storari definitely should start.
Not that this is Dida's fault, but nothing can be done here.
I think Dida should volunteer for a paycut, or ask for a contract cancellation. But we don't even know his contract details. He might already be on a lower pay scale, because a minimum matches played stipulation might have been placed in the contract.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 17 2009, 08:32 AM
I think the management are waiting for Dida's contract to run out to release him. it'd not be respectful in their eyes to force him a contract rescission, I guess. paycut? that's different and given the current circumstances I think it'd be more than fair. there's no balance between the players' earnings whatsoever.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 17 2009, 09:45 AM
I think the same. He will be released. It's something of 'going gently into the good night'.
Posted by: ganney Sep 17 2009, 10:23 AM
Schalke 04 manager Felix Magath has stated that he believes defender Rafinha is destined to be sold, when the transfer window next opens in January.
The Brazilian has been linked with a move to Italy, with both Milan and Juventus interested in the services of the 24-year-old.
If both Italian teams put in low, or inadequate offers, German giants Bayern Munich could also become involved in swooping the stopper, as they are also following the situation with interest.
"There is no better defender - who can go forward - better than him in the Bundesliga," Magath told Novantesimo.it.
"If he continues to play like this, Bayern will have no choice but to contact us.
"Although, should he maintain these levels of consistency, a team at the level of Barcelona may also contact us."
Over the summer transfer period, Schalke were rumoured to be wanting at least €10million for the defender, with no team willing to pay that much.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 17 2009, 02:40 PM
I have never seen rafinha but i would think under 10 M for a highly rated FB would be a great buy!
Posted by: Tennie Sep 17 2009, 02:44 PM
Ganney, thanks for the news posted up there. In future, please remember to cite the source you got the news from. Thanks!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 17 2009, 02:48 PM
he was afraid if he wrote the "g" word fishdoll would splash him
Posted by: ganney Sep 17 2009, 02:56 PM
oops , i forgot.. goal.com, who knows if its reliable or not
Posted by: Tennie Sep 17 2009, 03:01 PM
No worries, ganney.
It's just polite to other boardmembers to cite where the news comes from.Nah, Fishdoll saves that for Canadians with avatars that frighten him.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 17 2009, 04:50 PM
oh dear, we've been through this, that's me when i wake up after a rough night
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 17 2009, 05:44 PM
The England manager thinks that the Red Devils' ability at the negotiation table saw them walk away with a great deal for the Portuguese winger.
While rating Ronaldo highly, Capello thinks that Madrid paid over the odds for the star because he feels that Kaka is not far behind in terms of ability or importance.
Milan were paid €67m for their prized asset by the big spending Spaniards, but the Premier League outfit reportedly agreed a deal worth €94m for the Portuguese.
"[Ronaldo] is not worth £25m more than Kaka," Capello said in an interview with Marie Claire.
"You can see that Manchester United’s directors have been cleverer than AC Milan’s in their dealings with Real Madrid."
tenniesfav.com
HAHAHA! Even Capello is calling B$G retarted
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 17 2009, 06:56 PM
Given our finanical situation and our strict policy on not wasting money; a 4th choice goal keeper earning 4m just isn't right. Thats why people want him gone. He is a holding back the club with his huge wage.
but hey I know he's your favorite player and it must suck having to deal with these comments, but that is the reality of the situation. So save yourself the time and stress and just ignore the comments. There going to come until the day he has left milan. To many people Dida is looked as a greedy, lazy, unmotivated goal keeper who is just sucking milan dry as much as he can before he retires.
He's fourth choice only because he didn't play one minute of the preseason for whatever reason (thank you, Milan Lab) and the team's rash decision to replace one dud (Kalac) with another (Roma). And not to worry, folks, he'll definitely be gone after this season.
About our no-wasting-money policy, whatever that is, tell that to Digao and Chedric Seedorf and the Brazilian duds we've recently paraded through here. The management gave him that contract and it's their obligation to honor it.
He's lazy and unmotivated solely because he has a big contract and is relegated to the bench? Bull. For years his teammates have publicly asserted that he's one of the hardest workers on the team (not too many go and work out in the gym AFTER training sessions), and that showed last season when he ably replaced Abs when he went down.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 17 2009, 07:25 PM
I don't think anyone can fault Dida in the whole scheme of things. The matter is well out of his hands. I suppose if we wanted to be totally uncharitable we can claim he should have put his hands up and ask for a paycut. But that's just nonsense.
But the fact remains that if there is no plan to move Dida beyond 2nd/3rd choice he shouldn't be at 5 million a season. Either the terms of the contract get re-negotiated or he be released from what is obviously a relationship gone sour.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 17 2009, 09:01 PM
But the fact remains that if there is no plan to move Dida beyond 2nd/3rd choice he shouldn't be at 5 million a season. Either the terms of the contract get re-negotiated or he be released from what is obviously a relationship gone sour.
Agreed, its in the club's hands not Dida's, its ridiculous to think that he'll ask for a pay cut, he's not stupid, the management got themselves in this situation now they're paying for it big time.
Its just something that should be added to the ever growing list of mistakes our management have made in the past 5 years
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 18 2009, 07:28 AM
Its just something that should be added to the ever growing list of mistakes our management have made in the past 5 years
absolutely, uneconomically, unequivocally, undoubtedly, unquestionably correct.
Posted by: amancik Sep 18 2009, 11:11 AM
In my opinion, we just need a solid and pacy full-back and a creative and agile box-to-box midfielder.
If we can get them, we'll be strong enough to compete in UEFA CL this season.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 18 2009, 11:57 AM
Today's Gazzetta is reporting that Milan may make a bid for Dzeko in January.
Damir, have you heard anything about this?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 18 2009, 12:01 PM
Damir, have you heard anything about this?
I realised you had no option but to call him by his real name.
Milan to make a bid for Dzeko in Jan. Dzeko have you heard anything about this?
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 18 2009, 01:16 PM
Milan to make a bid for Dzeko in Jan. Dzeko have you heard anything about this?
LOL
Today press in Bosnia are full of Dzeko coments coes the clash beatwen Schalke (Magath) and Wolfsburg (game is played tonight).
Any way there are few words from Magath about Dzeko :
Dzeko should sign for Milan in the Summer, he is apsolutlly one of best striker in the world and not aloving him to go from Wolfsburg was mistake. Milan don't call players evry day but Dzeko is class and Milan saw it, i wasent coach of the Wolfsburg when Milan gave they offer but if i were i would accept it coes of player. Dzeko allredy gave a contribution to Wolfsburg by wining the Title of Bundesliga, if u ask me about Dzeko form i will tell u that he is one of the striker that can make chance and score goal by him self and that kind of striker can't fail down in form it's just things in his head childhood club and all.
BTW precontract with Dzeko is walid untill 31.12.2009 year.
There are some medias also claming that Wolfsburg accept new bid from Milan, and some report that Milan gave new offer for Dzeko (Part exchange with Borrielo)
Also there is more report about player called Miralem Pjanic (Bosnia player that play for Lyon), they said that Brada was in Lyon watching him. Guy is fcking great 18 yers old i would say new KAKA : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7eC3NUPOA
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 18 2009, 01:32 PM
we can alot worse then Pjanic, though i think he only plays trequie...
Posted by: dst Sep 18 2009, 02:15 PM
I think I saw Pjanic play with Lyon but I'm not so sure. New Kaka? I don't know his game looks different based on the video you posted.
What is this?
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 18 2009, 02:17 PM
What is this?
UM Dzeko allredy pen the precontract with Milan back in Sumer, in precontract is defined that he can't go to other club expect Milan. That precontract is vallid untill 31.12.2009
Posted by: dst Sep 18 2009, 02:31 PM
You're kidding right? So with this pre-contract we're basically saying... you can't go to another team... until the transfer window opens... which is what the rule actually dictates... I'm always amazed by the stupidity of our management these days, so entertaining...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 18 2009, 02:36 PM
i Think Damir should be a mod, let's promote him, as the team intends on getting more bosnian (as oppose to slovenian
) he will bring stability to the franchise
Posted by: dst Sep 18 2009, 02:55 PM
That can't happen, he's got Potato Chips Boy in his avatar.
Posted by: Dzeko Sep 18 2009, 03:38 PM
Hahahahah
i hope Potato Chips Boy will finally start to play!!!
Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 18 2009, 04:04 PM
i hope Potato Chips Boy will finally start to play!!!Dont wanna sound like Berlu but If Dinho did perform like he once did _ we d be at inters throats and everyone would be bouncin up an down
Posted by: Tennie Sep 18 2009, 04:12 PM
New rumors on tuttomercatoweb:
* Trade with City -- Ronaldinho for Robinho
* Milan to go after Rafinha and Hernanes in January
(Fishdoll would like it if, just once, Milan were to buy a young good ITALIAN player).
Posted by: Dracoris Sep 18 2009, 05:02 PM
We did, Abate
Posted by: Tennie Sep 18 2009, 05:04 PM
But we've always owned half of him. He's a youth product.
Posted by: dst Sep 18 2009, 05:06 PM
Posted by: han2503 Sep 18 2009, 05:32 PM
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 18 2009, 05:40 PM
Robinho for Ronaldinho? Just another press rumour for sure.
Posted by: vnata001 Sep 18 2009, 05:42 PM
i agree with fishdoll's request. F*** gareth bale or whichever other foreign player we're looking at for the left back
position. Buy CRISCITO.
- note: we did just buy a ton of good italians who were all born after 1990!
but geez, although a clear instance of fantacalcio (esp the 1st), those two rumors make me drool! 
..the second one should have been a reality in this last window.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 18 2009, 05:49 PM
EDIT: Wrong thread.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 18 2009, 05:50 PM
Damn, I missed the ' fest'.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 18 2009, 05:54 PM
Start a new one if you like...I don't care.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 18 2009, 08:00 PM
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 18 2009, 08:28 PM
Posted by: Tennie Sep 18 2009, 08:32 PM
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 18 2009, 08:35 PM
Yeah Dzeko is looking very likely to come in Jan. I haven't heard anything about borriello going the other way, however I have heard that he will probably be shipped out.
Anyways on hernanes and rafinha; i DOUBT we'll sign either of them, but if we do i'll be really surprised. Both cost around 12m so your looking at 25 plus another 20 for dzeko? Not likely.
We'll probably end up shippping floppo out in JaN and sign a FB. Then Dzeko will arrive and borri will probably peace out.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 18 2009, 08:46 PM
Dzeko just scored for Wolfsburg, btw.
EDIT: Scored twice, that is.
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