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Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 20 2012, 12:29 AM

Great debut for Milan. Hopefully he'll keep on with the good and hard work.

Posted by: acid911 Feb 20 2012, 12:52 AM

I wouldn't count on it, but wouldn't discount it either. A good goal today, and here's to a good season!

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 20 2012, 01:24 AM

More than the goal, his performance was great!

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 20 2012, 01:35 AM

Debut Goal Celebration

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 20 2012, 02:50 AM

It was the opener too. You could see his sheer hunger as he moved toward that ball. I remember the latter Ancelotti years and how no one in the team seemed to have any motivation. We've come a long way since.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 20 2012, 06:12 AM

Muntari totally flunked at Inter but was good before he moved to the dark side. Maybe Allegri can revive his career...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 20 2012, 08:26 AM

He was very useful for Cuntinho, coming in as a sub in the 60th IIRC - adding a lot f muscle to their midfield.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 23 2012, 07:08 PM

Muntari: "The first day at Milanello, I was at Galliani's office and then he brought me to the trophies room and told me: "This is Milan""

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 24 2012, 11:06 AM

"I don't care about skin color. Everyone has the same blood color." - Muntari

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2012, 01:37 AM

Today he played once again a good match. Nocerino happening all over again probably, but even more sweeter this time.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 26 2012, 02:01 AM

I never thought I'd say this, but he's proved to be a great signing so far. It would have been two goals in two games, if it wasn't for the blind linesman.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 26 2012, 02:30 AM

Definitely. He is on a loan right? How much would it take to get him permanently? If he is Nocerino-cheap I would pull the trigger. He can be a solid squad player. I believe he is only 27.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 26 2012, 02:37 AM

If I'm not mistaken, his contract with Inter terminates this summer. So, basically, we should get him for free.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 26 2012, 03:24 AM

Ohh, he's not blind.

He knows exactly what he was doing!

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 26 2012, 03:26 AM

+1

Posted by: acid911 Feb 26 2012, 03:35 AM

Aye, I wouldn't mind Juventus going down to where they belong in Serie B. Should be fun times again!

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 26 2012, 03:47 AM

I would have much rather seeing inter go down, but considering they got away, I just hope we don't see this kinda sh!t anymore, it gives our league a bad reputation.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 26 2012, 04:21 AM

Oh Galliani you savy ******* you

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 9 2012, 08:44 PM

http://youtu.be/95cbtSdhUNI

I don't know what happened, but Abate and van Bommel can't stop laughing.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 9 2012, 10:58 PM

Maybe they're laughing at the silly hat and shades Muntari is wearing...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 10 2012, 03:49 PM

Chicago Bulls hat? Bulls ain't silly han.

I'd say it's something internal.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 26 2012, 07:55 PM

For han's pleasure, we won't be seeing him in the next three games. Can't play against Barça and suspended against Catania.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 26 2012, 08:23 PM

Can't be that surprised that he's already suspended, he's gotten a yellow in every single game he's played

The most idiotic player I've seen in a while, just because he can hit the ball hard in the general direction of the goal does not make him a good player

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 26 2012, 09:04 PM

Against Lecce, Parma and Juve he sucked big time, but I honestly thought he was decent against Roma.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 26 2012, 10:24 PM

He didn't make any bad errors, but even his tracking back is abysmal. At one point after we were leading Mesbah got pulled away to the center and intead of covering him, Muntari just strolled along

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 26 2012, 11:27 PM

Yeah, really, point is he didn't do anything disastrous. I don't think he's Milan material, but I'm positive we're gonna sign him.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 26 2012, 11:50 PM

I think it's fine as long as we use him as Nocerino's sub. However, the way Allegri keeps preferring him over Aquilani kind of annoys me.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 27 2012, 04:44 AM

Agreed. Muntari is fine as a sub, and just that.

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 27 2012, 08:59 AM

He looks lazy and clumsy at times. when he puts effort he can be decent. I haven't seen that effort from him since his early Inter days.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Mar 27 2012, 04:33 PM

+ 1 agaisnt roma, especially near the end, he was crucial.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 27 2012, 04:53 PM

But then again, that's just he is. I mean, I've seen Muntari a fair few bit, and that's just how he is.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 7 2012, 04:52 PM

Who would've guessed he'd become an Allegri favorite so quickly? Our ruin.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 7 2012, 05:34 PM

I did. Allegri loves his muscles, or in other words, muscle men!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 7 2012, 06:50 PM

Yeah, that's it. But how is Emanuleson his favorite? And most distressingly, why does Allegri think players like Muntari and Emo can cover every single place on the field?

Posted by: acid911 Apr 7 2012, 07:04 PM

Don't quite understand his obsession with Muntari, but I reckon Allegri considers Emanuelson a utility player who can do a bit of everything. You know, those jack of all trades, master of none type of fellas. I still can't get the images of the first few times Allegri brought on Emanuelson, and then began starting him regularly.

That too, smack in the middle. I'd be hard-pressed to find a more talentless individual occupying, perhaps, the most important position in the team, in any of the big clubs. Maybe even a few of the smaller clubs too. It's like making a college dropout the head nuclear scientist in a laboratory - you need skills for this post.

Every time I see Emanusleon (and to a lesser extent, Muntari), I get a smack of mediocrity on my face!

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 7 2012, 07:08 PM

Because he's a n00b coach that in two years at Milan has learned absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 7 2012, 07:20 PM

How did that Allegri hate evolve all of the sudden in you? Just because we lost to Fiorentina?

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 7 2012, 07:26 PM

Did you forget my anti-Allegri sig? I've never liked him. So how do you expect me to react when this n00b just lost us the lead?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 7 2012, 07:32 PM

Well, stable. You went from anti-Allegri to mildly pro Allegri then neutral and now fiercely anti-Allegri now.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 7 2012, 07:39 PM

Not true. I praised him and the team in a few occasions, which is understandable, but I've never been pro him.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 7 2012, 07:42 PM

Haha, so funny. Essentially we agree on crucial Milan related things but somehow we still manage to argue.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 7 2012, 07:44 PM

It must be in the destiny.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 11 2012, 10:55 AM

http://www.football-italia.net/17592/video-kid-rejects-muntari-shirt

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 11 2012, 04:36 PM

Yeah, I saw that. Pretty funny. Chievo clarified with a note today that the kid didn't want the shirt because the club has given precise indications to stadium personal not to accept shirts or disturb the players of both Chievo and other teams after a game, though.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 11 2012, 04:39 PM

Ahh, stupid kid.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Apr 23 2012, 11:49 PM

His new car:

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 24 2012, 07:05 AM

Damn, he drives my favorite brand of sports car.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 24 2012, 02:32 PM

The Batmobile?

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 24 2012, 04:09 PM

Posted by: han2503 Apr 24 2012, 08:50 PM

All thanks to the idiots up top at our club for giving such a mediocre player the ability to fund this

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 25 2012, 12:51 AM

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 25 2012, 09:23 AM

Inter paid us 1.5 million to take him off their hands. I doubt we spent much.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 29 2012, 07:50 PM

Now I'm not sure how legit this is, but the caption on the picture when it was posted indicates that Muntari was wearing inter shinguards under his socks



Disgraceful if the pic was untouched!!

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 29 2012, 09:53 PM

Muntari claimed they are a type of shinguards of Nike, not Inter's. The logo similarity is just a coincidence.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 29 2012, 10:03 PM

Really looks like Inter's old crest.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 29 2012, 10:04 PM

Anyway, it's a detail.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 03:14 PM

If he's comfortable wearing his old shingaurds than the crest shouldn't really matter. What really matter is how utter cr@p he is as a footballer and the fact that he's getting picked to start for each of our matches. That's the real tragedy here, not some stupid shingaurds

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 03:14 PM

If he's comfortable wearing his old shingaurds than the crest shouldn't really matter. What really matter is how utter cr@p he is as a footballer and the fact that he's getting picked to start for each of our matches. That's the real tragedy here, not some stupid shingaurds

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 30 2012, 03:16 PM

He's the new Brocchi!

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 03:28 PM

At least Brocchi had some dignity and drive.

Muntari just stands around, cool as a cucumber, waiting around for the ball and than losing it

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 30 2012, 03:32 PM

Hey..he was brought in as an understudy to an understudy. What are you expecting?

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 03:49 PM

Yes, but who'd have thought that the genius we call our coach would insist on playing him every minute, even when the players he is understudying to have returned

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 30 2012, 05:46 PM

Muntari: Played 12, won 8, drew 3, lost 1. We win with him in the team, couldn't care less why or how.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 05:47 PM

Oh, sorry. I didn't know that we won those games thanks to Muntari. And not in spite of him bumbling around on the pitch and tripping over his own feet.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 30 2012, 06:14 PM

Muntari should be Nocerino's sub, I would be more than OK with that. What really irks me is Allegri playing him in every single game, whether as LCM, playmaker, and even AM, like he's an all-rounder that can pretty much do every job. Which he clearly can't.

Posted by: nuh Apr 30 2012, 06:16 PM

guys calm down about the shin pads
they are nike total 90 designs
http://www.binbin.net/photos/generic/nik/nike-t90-protegga-shield-ii-shin-pads-black-tour-yellow-kids.jpg

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 30 2012, 06:20 PM

And you seriously thin it's his doing?

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 30 2012, 06:26 PM

Good we cleared that up.



Kurt is always about the numbers.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 30 2012, 06:44 PM

You know, Muntari has been bad in most of the games he's played for us, but he hasn't been THAT bad. I mean, Mesbah bad. one thing he does rather well is winning balls. I've seen him do that many times. though he loses them easily in return.

What pisses me off about him the most is because I think he plays like he doesn't really care. slow, lazy and clumsy. you can't call yourself a footballer when that is your attitude. in his first seasons at Inter, I thought he was very good. I still think he's potentially a good player, if only he cared enough.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 30 2012, 06:46 PM

As I said above. We win with him. I couldn't care less how or why. But y'know, you guys keep taking things out of context to have a little cry about something or other.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 07:06 PM

Lol, and you think the results would nose dive if he were to be taken out?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 30 2012, 07:17 PM

Did I say that? Our success rate with him in the team is outstanding. End of. Not sure what there is to argue. It's a fact.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 30 2012, 07:26 PM

Yeah, it's a random fact that only deludes people who don't watch Milan games; other then that I really don't see a point? Surely someone could find an impressive win record when Milan started Taribo West or Jens Lehmann, but heck what does it matter when the context maintains missing?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 30 2012, 07:36 PM

Because I don't see it as an issue when we're winning? If he was playing and we kept losing and he was awful - problem. That's not the case. He hasn't even been awful and we're winning with him. What the hell's the problem.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 07:37 PM

How are they outstanding?

we basically gave up the Scudetto while he was gallivanting in our midfield.

He only played decently in his first 2 to 3 games. The rest has been utter cr@p. And if you don't think having that kind of liability in our midfield wasn't in part at fault for our collapse, then I don't know what else to say to you.

Defending Muntari is ultimately defending Allegri's idiotic decision to constantly play him. That says enough

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 30 2012, 07:46 PM

I don't think he's a reason we're winning a lot, but that's completely retarded.

With Muntari - 2.25ppg
Without Muntari - 2.04ppg

It's a fact we're winning more with him in the team with him out of the team. Arguing that is, well, being factually incorrect. Not sure why people are even arguing this. It was a stat I noticed, I put it, what's the big deal.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 30 2012, 08:43 PM

Muntari is a good utility player, ala Broochi ... These players play to serve a certain function, it is not expected of them to be masters of the ball. In that light, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be playing.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2012, 08:53 PM

Are you serious???!!!

Why he shouldn't be playing??? Because there are players fit and on the bench who are far better than him FFS!!

Posted by: TriniKing_CE May 1 2012, 01:55 AM

Neither are Milan quality. Fin!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 1 2012, 06:20 AM

Why is it you are pissed? I thought as far as your concerned the season was over?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 1 2012, 06:21 AM

True, but so are Aquilani and Flamini

Posted by: han2503 May 1 2012, 11:54 AM

What does the season being over have to do with being p!ssed about the fact that this idiot is getteing as much minutes as Zlatan Ibrahimovich FFS!

How can you not be p!ssed when you see him in our shirt making a fool of himself on the pitch. It's frustrating because we've been playing some of our worst stuff under Allegri since this idiot has been playing regularly for us

Posted by: han2503 May 1 2012, 11:55 AM

They are Milan quality! Maybe not starting quality but certainly more than good enough to be in the Milan squad. Muntari is not even worthy of a ball boy position on this team

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 1 2012, 01:02 PM

Aquilani is Milan quality in terms of rotation and back-up. Sorry, but Flamini isn't. There's no way you can prove it; he's just a few inches better then Muntari.

Posted by: X-Offender May 1 2012, 03:25 PM

Aquilani proved during September-December that he's a decent player you can actually count on. If it wasn't for his injury and Allegri's reluctance to play him because of the infamous '25 presences', he'd still be a worthy starter in our midfield. Muntari, on the other hand, only proved during these months that he's the same idiot who we all thought he was at Inter. He scored a couple of lucky goals, and had about 2-3 decent games in total. But I don't really blame him. It's all Allegri's fault for playing him non-stop when he clearly had better players on the bench. And that's what really pisses the hell out of me!

Posted by: William405 May 1 2012, 05:17 PM

+100000 keep them comin.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2012, 05:43 PM

Imagine if we actually lost games with Muntari playing? This place would explode.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 1 2012, 07:58 PM

Come on, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove to us? You think Muntari is responsible for winning those games, or his presence is giving us the tactical edge?

And by the way, mere numbers don't mean much. We won against smaller teams (bar Roma, but I can't remember if Muntari played there as a starter).

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2012, 08:00 PM

I am not trying to prove anything. He's obviously not as bad as most suggest. But he wasn't wanted and is unfashionable, so unless he becomes Kaka', opnions won't change.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 1 2012, 08:02 PM

Sorry, I disagree. You're citing extremes. Bommel, Nocerino, Ambrosini and Flamini are all fighters who ain't as flashy as Kaka but still get appreciation here when they do good.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2012, 10:54 PM

I didn't mean as flashy as Kaka', but I meant unless someone basically becomes a star they won't get credit. Ambro still doesn't get much credit and I've still seen some comments of talking about Nocerino being a backup, despite this outstanding season he's had. Flamini doesn't get much appreciation, but then he hasn't deserved any.

Posted by: han2503 May 2 2012, 01:09 PM

VB and Nocerino are great examples of not being initially wanted by most of the people here. Yet they're now viewed as 2 of the most important players on our team by most. Only the odd person sees Nocerino as anything other than an important starter

Making him out to be worse than he really is?? Hardly! I don't get what you're getting at with this argument, even a person who knows absolutely nothing about football can see what a liability Muntari truely is in our midfield

And your stat sheet with Muntari in the team really doesn't mean anything. It's like we weren't winning before and all of a sudden started to win once we brought him in. Like our very own personal miracle Most likely we would have still won all those games without him bumbling around on the pitch and making mistakes out of what should be simple passes.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 2 2012, 07:45 PM

You cant really be that biased han ... Muntari is not Makelele, he is a Broochi. You don't like Broochies, ok .. But Allegri does. For me, especially in the closing weeks of the season, I'd rather see those 3 points accumulate game-by-game, than worry about little details of who started and shouldn't .. And if Allegri can confirm with his selections the points, then I don't consider Muntari a liability.

Again obviously he isn't Ringo in his prime, he is a Broochi in his prime

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 2 2012, 09:52 PM

My posts are timed pretty well sometimes. Thanks for the 2 extra points today, Sully.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 2 2012, 09:57 PM

To hell with you. It was Robbie who gave us the points.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 2 2012, 09:58 PM

Whatever you say, boss.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 2 2012, 10:06 PM

Coz sulley's goal was canceled out by Marchisio...but it was Robbie's that they didn't have an answer to. So by this brilliant twist of logic that only a mind as delusional as mine could have come up with...I'm right and you're wrong. Now buy me beer and a lapdance.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 2 2012, 10:08 PM

wut.

Posted by: han2503 May 3 2012, 08:06 AM

Last time I checked scoring a goal does not meqn that you were utterly cr@p in everything else you did during the game. Because that always sums up Muntari. And I find it funny how you try to attribute the win to this good for mothing, as if he was the only player on the pitch for us.

And what's really funny here is that you're only trying to defend his case because it's Allegri's repeatedly stupid decision to play him in every game

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 3 2012, 09:20 AM

Yes, because he was 'utterly crap'.

Posted by: Zed.D May 5 2012, 10:38 AM

He'll stay I guess.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 5 2012, 12:18 PM

It's retarded that he's even allowed to play. Makes no sense to allow loanees to play against their parent club.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 5 2012, 12:33 PM

It depends on the agreement.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 20 2012, 05:36 PM

Muntari was injured with Ghana and will be out for several months.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/milan-il-crociato-tradisce-muntari.shtml?refresh_cens

Rejoice everyone!

Posted by: William405 Jun 20 2012, 05:41 PM

Ah..eh...

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 20 2012, 05:53 PM

OFFICIAL: Muntari had knee surgery today and will be out for 5/6 months.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 20 2012, 08:33 PM

Allegri will cry a river tonight

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 20 2012, 08:46 PM

I don't know, if we come that low to celebrate a serious injury, then,...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 20 2012, 09:04 PM

agreed, very sad indeed.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM

Then we're really desperate, I know.

Posted by: acid911 Jun 21 2012, 01:31 AM

That's the only real way the management really moves their behind and buys someone. Because they know that even if they've signed a mediocre player, if they guy's out for half a season or more, they just have to bring in a replacement and quick. Otherwise, they sure do take their time figuring out the bargain buys and all.

As for Muntari, I can only imagine all the pain he has had to go through during the injury and the operation. And that too, playing for his country back in Africa, respect for that. Not that I like him that very much, but still I am not and will never be celebrating his misfortune. Just the reason that we got in some cover due to it.

In a perfect world, a lot of things would be different. But these are desperate times, when everyone knows we are just a few signings (and a much lower amount of injuries) away from being great again.

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 22 2012, 02:51 AM

Have we signed him yet? Does this injury mean he won't join us on a permanent basis?

Posted by: acid911 Jun 22 2012, 03:26 AM

I pretty much am certain we've signed him. But like I said, Muntari's signing has had an upside, very similar to how Flamini got injured and we got Nocerino as his cover. Sad thing to happen to a football player, a long term injury, a painful one like this, but that's the only way our management lets us know they're breathing.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 22 2012, 01:17 PM

Yep Muntari was signed early in June...

Anyway, at least we won't have to worry about Allegri playing him for the next 6 months. Thank God

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 22 2012, 01:29 PM

And hopefully by then, we can get a string of strong performances and others would have booked their places.

Posted by: X-Offender Jul 11 2012, 01:51 PM

Oh god, he'll be wearing #4 now.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 11 2012, 02:54 PM

Kaladze!!!!!

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 27 2012, 10:02 PM

Muntari's new look:

Posted by: han2503 Sep 27 2012, 10:25 PM

Saying the word I want to say to describe his new "look" would be inappropriate and could offend people, but he does look ____ (fill in the blank)

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 27 2012, 10:28 PM

I hate those flat baseball cap things, they look ridiculous and too big. At least he wasn't wearing it. They look really embarassingly bad on people in comparison to the regular ones.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 27 2012, 10:53 PM

Wearing a Marlon Brando t-shirt. classy Muntari!! I can almost forgive him for that awful, awful look.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 27 2012, 10:58 PM

He reminds me of Ibrahim Ba:



Both crap players.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 27 2012, 11:09 PM

Actually, Ba was better.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 27 2012, 11:14 PM

Better doesn't mean good.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 27 2012, 11:18 PM

Muntari 1 CL
Fat Ronaldo 0 CL

You be the judge.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 27 2012, 11:29 PM

Muntari has been crap for the past few years but he used to be quite good once upon a time. I think he has enough talent. he's just lazy and doesn't give a ****.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 27 2012, 11:38 PM

Valdés 3 CLs
Original Ronaldo 0 CL

Don't think we need a judge for this one. I'd just say it's the CL's bad luck Ronaldo did not win it.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 27 2012, 11:44 PM

Muntari:

Portsmouth
FA Cup: (1) 2007–08

Internazionale
Supercoppa Italiana: (2) 2008, 2010
Serie A: (2) 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia: (1) 2009–10
UEFA Champions League: (1) 2009–10
FIFA Club World Cup: (1) 2010

Ronaldo:

Cruzeiro Esporte Clube
Campeonato Mineiro (1): 1994
Copa do Brasil (1): 1993

PSV Eindhoven
KNVB Cup (1): 1996
Johan Cruijff-schaal (1): 1996

FC Barcelona
Copa del Rey (1): 1997
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1997
Supercopa de España (1): 1996

F.C. Internazionale Milano
UEFA Cup (1): 1998

Real Madrid C.F.
La Liga (2): 2002–03, 2006–07
Intercontinental Cup (1): 2002
Supercopa de España (1): 2003
Sport Club Corinthians Paulista
Campeonato Paulista (1): 2009
Copa do Brasil (1): 2009

National team
FIFA World Cup (2): 1994, 2002
FIFA World Cup (1): Runners-up (2nd Place) 1998
Copa América (2): 1997, 1999
Copa América (1): Runners-up (2nd Place) 1995,
FIFA Confederations Cup (1): 1997
Summer Olympic Games (1): Bronze Medal (3rd Place) 1996

Individual
Supercopa Libertadores Top Scorer (1): 1993–94
Supercopa Libertadores Team of The Year (1): 1993-04
Campeonato Mineiro Top Scorer (1): 1993–94
Campeonato Mineiro Team of The Year (1): 1994
Eredivisie Top Scorer (1): 1994–95
La Liga Top Scorer (2): 1996–97,2003–2004
La Liga Foreign Player of the Year (1): 1996
CONMEBOL Men Pre-Olympic Tournament Top Scorer: 1996
European Golden Boot (1): 1996–97
Don Balón Award La Liga Foreign Player of the Year (1): 1996–97
Copa América Final Most Valuable Player (1): 1997
Copa América Most Valuable Player (1): 1997
Confederations Cup All-Star Team (1): 1997
Cup Winners Cup Final Most Valuable Player (1): 1997
Cup Winners Cup Top Goal Scorer (1): 1996–1997
IFFHS World's Top Goal Scorer of the Year (1): 1997
UEFA Most Valuable Player (1) 1998
ESM Team of the Year (2) 1996–97, 1997–98
UEFA Most Valuable Player (1): 1997–98
Serie A Footballer of the Year (1): 1997–98
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (1): 1997–98
UEFA Best Forward (1): 1997–98
Bravo Award (3): 1995, 1997, 1998
FIFA World Cup Golden Ball (1): 1998
FIFA World Cup Best player (1): 1998
FIFA World Cup Bronze Boot (2): 1998
UEFA Cup Final Most Valuable Player (1): 1998
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 1997 - 1998
Copa América Top Scorer (1): 1999
Copa América All-Star Team (2): 1997, 1999
La Liga Ibero-American Player of the Year (2): 1996–97, 2002-03
FIFA World Player of the Year (3): 1996, 1997, 2002
FIFA World Player of the Year (1): 1998 2nd
FIFA World Player of the Year (1): 2003 3rd
Ballon D'or (2): 1997, 2002
Ballon D'or (1): 1996 Ballon d'Or recipients 2nd
Ballon D'or (1): 1998 Ballon d'Or recipients 3nd
World Soccer Magazine World Player of The Year (3): 1996, 1997, 2002
Onze d'Or (2): 1997, 2002
Onze d'Argent (1): 1998
FIFA World Cup Silver Ball (1): 2002
FIFA 100
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team (2): 1998, 2002
FIFA World Cup Final Most Valuable Player (1): 2002
FIFA World Cup Golden boot (1): 2002
FIFA World Cup Top Scorer (1): 2002
Intercontinental Cup Most Valuable Player (1): 2002
UEFA Club Team of The Year (1): 2002
Laureus Comeback of the Year (1): 2002
Strogaldo De Legendary Award: 2002
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Overseas Personality (1): 2002
Trofeo EFE (2) 1996-97, 2002-03
Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsman of the Year (1) 2003
La Liga South American Player of the Year (2): 1996–97, 2002–03
Golden Foot award (1): 2006
Brazilian National Hall of Fame: Class of 2006
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team (2): 1998, 2002
FIFA World Cup (2) 2006 Bronze Boot
Serie A Player of the Decade: 1997–2007
France Football Magazine: Starting eleven of all-time (2007)
FIFA World Cup All-Time Leading Scorer
Real Madrid Team of the century
Campeonato Paulista Best Player (1): 2009
Honor of Brazilian Football Confederation: 2010
Real Madrid Hall of fame: 2011
Marca Leyenda: 2011
World Soccer (magazine):Players' All-time ranking (3) 1st Place
World Soccer (magazine): The Greatest Players of the 20th Century (Published December 1999)
Goal.com: Player of a decade: Winner 2000–2010

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 27 2012, 11:44 PM

Brocchi 2 CL
Cristiano Ronaldo CL 1

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 27 2012, 11:54 PM

I've won lots of footballing awards that mean nothing too. Muntari won 5 things in 1 season plus is an FA Cup winner. Amazing.



IMAGINE A MIDFIELD OF BROCCHI AND MUNTARI OMG!

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 28 2012, 12:14 AM

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 28 2012, 09:00 AM

Posted by: han2503 Sep 28 2012, 09:45 AM

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 28 2012, 12:03 PM

now that should count for something

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 9 2014, 07:45 PM

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 9 2014, 09:31 PM

Han you forgot one; bumped

Posted by: han2503 Aug 9 2014, 10:02 PM

Damn you!!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 31 2014, 06:39 PM

Huh?

He had one of the better distance covered at the World Cup (obviously per game, not total) and most certainly did in Milans MF last season. "lazy" is the last thing he is. Technical ability? Yeah, I agree he's nowhere near the best in that regard.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 31 2014, 07:12 PM

This is a very clear example of how stats can sometimes be totally mis-leading, his jogging around hikes those numbers up big time

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 31 2014, 07:14 PM

In any case, let's not argue over something irrelevant and enjoy the win!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 31 2014, 07:29 PM

I disagree. One only has to count how easily Lazio countered once Muntari was off.

Playing box to box in a midfield three is insanely difficult. INSANELY F#CKING DIFFICULT. Trust me on this. And he does a stellar job.

Candreva was quiet till he was taken off. And he scored a goal and actually got involved in goal scoring situations.

Yet all anyone here can see is one off tackle or one skyward shot. Not realising that he probably sprinted from the other half to be there to even receive the ball.

Would I take Modric over him? Sure. But until then he's the best we've got. Right now for me, it's Poli who gets the bench when Montolivo comes back.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 31 2014, 07:34 PM

No jack, Lazio were already getting the upper hand on us before Muntari left the field, he's irrelevant in this case, it was De Jong that dropped off a lot in the second half which allowed Lazio control of the midfield.

Muntari doesn't play box-to-box, Muntari plays as Muntari wants. He's just completely undisciplined as a player and tactically ignorant. Oh and Candreva was quiet because SES and Bonera were doubling up on him, and it's not like he's Ronaldo, he only got into it when our players started to tire out a bit and we lot control of the midfield

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 31 2014, 07:41 PM

We'll have to disagree then. I thought Essien was a disaster positioning wise whereas I could always see Muntari 'jogging in' and cutting off passing angles.

Anyway, it won't be the first time people watch the same match and interpret things differently.

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 31 2014, 07:59 PM

@ bolded part! Agree completely.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 31 2014, 08:21 PM

Muntari would be perfect in the double pivot or even as anchor, but as mezz'ala he's totally not suited. He jogs around the field and doesn't pressure the opponent. He's decent only when we're closed in our own half, as that's when his physicality and tackling skills come to fruition.

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 7 2014, 09:17 AM

F@ck it, I don't care if I become hated here, http://www.football-italia.net/55591/muntari-torres-and-bonaventura.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 7 2014, 09:49 AM

Lol, it's a good thing you're not a woman max, or you'd be easier than a working girl desperate for work

I've personally never said that I don't like the guy as a human being, he seems like a good guy, but as a footballer, I simply cannot stand him, he's so limited, lazy and tactically limited. Just cannot stand watching him on the pitch for us.

Hopefully now with Van Ginkel and Bonaventura his time on the pitch will be very limited

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 7 2014, 10:18 AM

Agreed

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 7 2014, 07:26 PM

Yep. Actually came back to say nah I can't like this guy. It was a momentarily lapse...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 11 2014, 10:23 AM

read in FI yesterday or the day before, Muntari is very content and wants to retire at Milan

He's been a good servant for the past couple of years, under which all coaches relied on him to battle that midfield.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 11 2014, 11:38 AM

Posted by: han2503 Oct 11 2014, 03:24 PM

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 11 2014, 09:10 PM

It is obvious your laughing at me giving notice to a player whom you do not like. In anycase, trust you to keep up the same spirit in the match threads now that our starting DM has extended with us

Posted by: han2503 Oct 11 2014, 09:40 PM

I'm laughing at the fact that you called him a dependable servant (), more like a lazy idiot. And also at the fact that you're once again pointing out that all the coaches have relied on him when that in fact is not true. Seedorf certainly didn't and with Pippo as of yet it's difficult to tell but I can imagine him dropping him sooner rather than later with how Jack and even Poli are both performing. Not to mention the fact that Muntari nearly assisted Chievo not ONCE but TWICE last Saturday. Yeah, great dependable starting DM right there

Also love how you call him a DM when he spends more time level with the strikers than actually helping out De Jong in any defensive work, last I checked De Jong is suspended from the Verona game because he had to make a tactical foul because of Muntari once again giving up the ball in a dangerous area

But yeah, let's party that he got his contract renewed with a pay hike as well

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 11 2014, 10:43 PM

Keep that jolly spirit up in match threads, the lad seems like he's gonna be here for some time to come. Whether you approve or not is irrelevant to the technical staff fielding him

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 12 2014, 12:40 AM

He did??

Posted by: Jack Bauer Oct 12 2014, 12:56 AM

Yep, last season till June 2016. One and a half years left, it's not that bad.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 12 2014, 08:29 AM

This is how I'll reply to your ridiculous Muntari posts from now onwards

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 12 2014, 10:09 AM

What an example you set for forum goers

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 12 2014, 01:13 PM

Mourinho - Muntari played 76% of games (80 of 105 available)
Allegri - Muntari played 83% of games (52 of 62 available)
Seedorf - Muntari played 78% of games (14 of 18 available)
Inzaghi - Muntari played 83% of games (5 of 6 available)

But no coach except Allegri ever dreams of using him. Ever.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 12 2014, 01:22 PM

How many of them were starts?

Posted by: han2503 Oct 12 2014, 01:53 PM

Thank you, I know you do your best at trolling us even worse than that so that's how I will reply to your very obvious attempts to rile people up about Muntari when you know 99% of people on here cannot stand him.

So I won't bother to waste my time trying to argue very valid points with you about how he should not be a starter with the aforementioned so as not to incite pointless arguments.


Ahh the magic question and even more enchanting number that would follow.

I know for a fact that Mourinho rarely used him as a starter, Seedorf as well.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 12 2014, 02:06 PM

These are his numbers at inter in all competitions

09/10: 18 starts, 18 sub appearances
10/11 Inter: 3 starts, 8 sub appearance +
10/11 Sunderland: 7 starts, 2 sub appearance on loan (because he was so good at Inter they just had to share him with Sunderland)
11/12: 1 start, 3 sub appearances

Before they promptly offloaded him to our knuckle head management who in recent history have an amazing track record of getting talent into the fold, Traore, Birsa, Zaccardo, Silvestre, to name but a few of the stellar names we've been lucky to have on our squads these last few years

Yes, these numbers are the very representation of a player that a club heavily relies on the fact is he has more sub appearances than he has start for Inter say it all.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 12 2014, 03:39 PM

57 starts and 23 sub appearances under Mourinho. Nice try.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 12 2014, 03:45 PM

Can you please provide a link from where you got that info? My numbers are from whoscored

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 12 2014, 03:48 PM

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sulley-muntari/leistungsdatentrainer/spieler/17129/plus/1

^^ Pretty good site for any kind of statistical info if you're ever trying to find something.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 12 2014, 04:02 PM

I don't know how truly accurate those are as his total appearances under Mourinho (starts + subs) would amount to nearly all of his appearances at Inter and he was there for 2(?) more years after Mou.


Transfermarkt is hardly a bible for football, (neither is whoscored mind you), I just find them very accurate usually and personally I don't ever remember him being an important component of Mourinho's Inter, I do remember when he subbed him on late in a game and managed to get sent off within a few minutes.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 12 2014, 04:15 PM

It's very accurate and detailed. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sulley-muntari/leistungsdaten/spieler/17129/saison/2008. You can sort a players career by pretty much anything. Season, competition, coach and it'll list all the games for that criteria.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 12 2014, 08:27 PM

Just for the record I do rate Muntari and was not attempting to 'rile people about XYZ', hence my comment on this thread was valid because In My Opinion, however it is not in yours ... Welcome to the Milan Fan forums and if there ever was a pointless argument why are you enticing it with me? Talk about trolling

Posted by: han2503 Oct 12 2014, 08:46 PM

You call your posts about him not trolling? HA! That's rich, and you've done this not just with Muntari and many others have pointed it out, but because I no longer wish to engage you any further in this debate you tell me that I am trolling and you're only stating your "opinion"...

Just take a look at your post that started this, the tone and wording are just begging for people to reply

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 12 2014, 08:53 PM

But it doesn't show the starts, does it? At least I can't find them.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 12 2014, 09:06 PM

And now you have a PhD in linguistics?

Sad isn't it? You finally find someone who rates a player you do not, and what you do? You go about implanting motives of me trolling? THAT is rich!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 12 2014, 09:42 PM

Why do we feel the urge to continue long past discussions till everything sound like a broken record.

We're discussing Muntari now, Kurt has given us some interesting stats and tried to show how popular opinion and memory can be deceptive. Just hold on to that part of the discussion and forget the edgy parts. Please don't go into that trolling story: I'd like to think that all opinions are allowed and appreciated here, and there is NO NEED to engage a personal debate.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 12 2014, 11:39 PM

For the season by season, I'm not sure. It looks like it just shows the minutes.

For the general overview, it shows total appearances and it also shows how many times they were subbed in. So starts would be 'total appearances - sub appearances'.

For the 18 months after Mourinho, while he was still at Inter, it seems none of the coaches really fancied Muntari in their team. Benitez, Gasperini, Leonardo and Ranieri all seemed to not use him much. On one hand you could say it's because he's bad, but Leo aside those coaches hardly covered themselves in glory at Inter.

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 13 2014, 12:20 AM

Muntari in all club competitions:

08/09: 33 starts - 3 subs
09/10: 23 starts - 20 subs
10/11: 11 starts - 10 subs
11/12: 15 starts - 3 subs
12/13: 12 starts - 6 subs
13/14: 26 starts - 9 subs

http://www.espnfc.com/

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 13 2014, 12:26 AM

Oh and I believe Kurt has a pretty healthy outlook toward the club, its players and so on. It's just that Muntari is obviously disliked here. That's why the words useless and such are thrown around (by me too). I'm one of the people that just doesn't wanna see him in the line up. But he is obviously not useless. Just really mistake prone and somewhat lazy and that for me outweighs the benefits he offers. Thing is though, we can't really afford much better. Like Poli hasn't really been a World beater since we signed him. I always am noticing his niggling mistakes. But he has a do or die attitude and that makes me like him. Muntari? Not so much.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 13 2014, 12:34 AM

I can't really say I disagree with any of that. If I'm picking my current best Milan XI, Muntari is not on it. When I am not of the same critical level s some of you guys, it doesn't mean I rate him highly.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 13 2014, 12:38 AM

Except for the first two and last seasons, those are some pretty weak numbers considering it includes all competitions. Can't believe he started 26 games for us last season, though. It just tells you how far from grace we've fallen.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 13 2014, 12:47 AM

The middle 2 are weak. But is that a bad thing for Muntari? First 2 seasons, he played pretty regular, won Serie A titles, including a treble/CL win. The middle 2, where he barely played, Inter sucked. The fact he didn't play much is probably more of an argument for him than against him.

I do agree that it shows what we've become. Would he have enough been on the bench a decade or so ago? No way.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 13 2014, 08:41 AM

Love how you're playing innocent about this when you were obviously looking for people to reply to you.

And may I remind you that I wasn't the first one to bite on to the lure.

It's just like when we're having a debate about Pippo or in the past Seedorf and you come in with your sarcasm about how Pippo is an idiot because most of us couldn't stand Allegri so obviously we're all dumb and can't see the good in a coach.


He had 7 starts at Sunderland in 10/11 and his 11/12 numbers are mostly boosted by Allegri since we got him mid season, his last 2 seasons at Inter he got something like 2 and 3 starts respectively.

His numbers in his first 2 seasons at Inter are strong, I have to admit that, but Mourinho also subbed him off something like 38 times in total over those 2 seasons

Posted by: han2503 Oct 13 2014, 08:44 AM

Because it's either brought up or we're in a match thread and one can't help but comment?

R7 brought Muntari up and was clearly looking for a debate with his and loyal servant cr@p about Muntari, and during a match thread he's usually so bad that one can't help himself but notice Muntari and comment about how bad he is. So you think that because this is an exhausted subjected we should for example ignore the fact that he's just tried to assist the opposing team 3 times and got De Jong suspended for the following game in the process?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 13 2014, 10:11 AM

What type of a picture are you trying to paint? That I lure people in to sarcastic comments? That I play innocent? Why are you skewing the intention of my original post.

This is a Muntari thread and if I choose to praise the lad, then I will. Last I heard the internet has over 3bn users, not just han and his buddies!


PS There is an old Arab proverb "Judging a person does not define who they are ... It defines who you are".

Posted by: han2503 Oct 13 2014, 11:10 AM

Say what you will but you know what I'm talking about, it's not just about Muntari, you do this countless times and you've been called out on it just as much, and not by me, this is the first time that I actually said anything instead of ignoring it.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 13 2014, 06:07 PM

No I honestly do not know what you are talking about. But it seems like you have something personal against me in a general sense and not just my opinion on Muntari? Now I understand.

Fillipo, take note!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 13 2014, 10:14 PM

Lol, are you serious?? I can post one huge post right here and now on people calling you out on your bating posts as I took time out of my day to actually look back through posts and compile it.

If you want me to do it say so and I will, your call.

I have nothing against you, I might completely disagree with you about your opinions on the management and FFP and such and I respect those opinions no matter how strongly I disagree with them, what I cannot respect is you constantly bating people with sarcastic posts bordering on trolling the forum to rile people up.

And this is also something that I have documented on my hard drive on a note pad with your posts and their dates and times.

I don't have anything against anyone here on a personal level, that's just not my style, I've had blow outs with many people with regards to footballing matters, ask Danny and kurt , but I never go past the invisible line with anyone, and I've ignored your bating posts more than once now choosing to not reply when others have, but now that I have gone down to that level and chosen to troll you back you get offended.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 13 2014, 11:24 PM

For the fourth time today, it was my opinion on Muntari. Not yours not your buddies, but mine. So no, you were trolling all by yourself.

You don't have anything personal against me? And your compiling a memoir of people opposed to my opinion on matters? Dude there is a block member feature on this forum, I use it to block off the noises I don't like. Maybe you should too.

Waaw, threats and my calls? Your really eager to derail the initial issue of you not respecting an opinion with a new twist of events whereby I am the troll on this forum? Well, since you took the time out to actually compile such a record, it would be such a shame not to be put to use.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 14 2014, 07:53 AM

Really? Guys? C'mon. Knock it off. I like Muntari too. He's a limited player but a good bloke. I prefer him to toxins anyway.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 14 2014, 09:01 AM

Not derailing anything, just saying you have a long history of bating people and your "opinion" of Muntari was another case of this.

And it's really not about people disagreeing with your opinion and you know this. I took the time to compile the posts because you're trying to act the innocent about this when there's a long history of this behaviour from you, if you want I'll be kind enough to PM the post to you so as not to show it in front of others, but even so you know what I'm talking about.

Once again, I have nothing against you, don't know what you mean with the threats and calls thing, but I hate it when people try to act two faced. Which is why I called you out to begin with.

From now on I won't reply again to you when you're doing your obvious little jig, like I said, when you post valid opinions and posts (even if I completely disagree with them) I respect them, but as I said, I cannot respect you when you're throwing around your one line bating posts, just gets on my nerves.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 14 2014, 09:03 AM

Limited being the key word Jack

And this is not about Muntari, Muntari is so far from the point here that he's not even a blip on the radar.

Posted by: nuh Oct 14 2014, 01:39 PM

only muntari could do such a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXDqeosDvg

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 14 2014, 02:10 PM

I could show you Pirlo and Seedorf at Inter and you'd laugh at them too.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 14 2014, 02:37 PM

Typical Muntari tackles

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 14 2014, 03:21 PM

That has got to be one of the dumbest things a footballer has ever done.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Oct 14 2014, 10:22 PM

Han, I dislike Muntari playing for us almost as strongly as you and X do but I have to tell you that you don't come off well in this sequence of posts. More than a little unhealthily focused on R7 and his posting. Regardless how you feel about his opinions he is certainly within his rights to post as sarcastically and snarky as he likes. If you don't like it then ignore it. Attempting to repress R7s opinions is pretty ridiculous.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 14 2014, 10:30 PM

Like I said, this is the first time I've ever personally mentioned his posting "style" it has nothing to do with Muntari, many others have pointed out that his sarcasm or blatant bating was annoying.

Frankly I don't care how I come off looking, I was just fed up with it and simply had to say something, I only took it to another level because he's trying to act the innocent now after he's done this many times over in the past.

Like I said to R7, I absolutely have nothing against him and he's usually a good poster but he does this kind of thing on many occasions and I really don't see what's the use in it

Oh and repressing opinion? Please!! Talk about taking it to another level, he can still say whatever the hell he likes, same as you and me, I just stated my opinion about how I don't like that he's constantly doing this and initially I only used the because I couldn't even be bothered to get into it with him but he took offense to it, which is why I replied and explained why I was doing it

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 14 2014, 11:31 PM

I back you up on this, since no-one is willing to do it. R7 does this trolling thing very often. It used to piss me off in the past, but nowadays I just ignore anything he says. He's either kissing the management's @ss or pulling off sarcastic posts in order to rile people up.

Han did nothing wrong, and he certainly didn't offend anyone. Anything he's said has been nothing but truth.

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 15 2014, 12:12 AM

But R7 has a degree in finance. He is above all this. He wins.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 17 2014, 09:55 AM

Let's talk about Muntari, shall we?

Posted by: han2503 Oct 17 2014, 10:19 AM

Ummm, he's a terrible player, that's about it

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 24 2014, 04:38 PM

Watch http://www.iene.mediaset.it/puntate/2014/10/15/corti-lello-l’amico-dei-calciatori…_8838.shtml.

It's in Italian, but it doesn't matter. Just watch Muntari's reaction.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 24 2014, 04:54 PM

What a pr!ck!!

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 24 2014, 06:38 PM

He says that if he does it again he'll smash his face. What a douche. The other guys take it so lightly, because that's what it is, a joke.

Posted by: Danny Oct 25 2014, 01:49 AM

Guy got what was coming to him. The others were simply too polite to react. If someone shows you that in the street, if you just take it then you're really a bit of a t*t.

Sure, his reaction is maybe more violent than expected, but frankly I think you two just want any excuse to attack Muntari.

PS: you used to say you just hated him as a player, but that was just BS wasn't it. You hate him, period.

Posted by: Danny Oct 25 2014, 01:50 AM

Like yours about wanting Bonera's leg broken

Seems your idea of humour and mine are quite, quite different.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 25 2014, 09:56 AM

It's a joke FFS!

The others weren't too polite, they just knew how to laugh about it, especially Boriello and Lopez. De Rossi didn't seem all that happy about it either but wasn't a total d!ck about it

Smashing his tablet and threatening him? Not cool!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 25 2014, 10:37 AM

Him reacting negatively is fine. Him smashing someone else's possession, an expensive one at that, is far from acceptable.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 25 2014, 12:03 PM

Nah man, the other two take it like a joke, because that's what it is. There's another video with some other players, and they all laugh about it. Only De Jong gets serious, but he doesn't get out of the car, smash his iPad and then threaten to smash his face. If you think that's fine, then obviously you and I have different concepts of where the line lies in such situations.

And Muntari is a d*ck, if you didn't know. He treats fans like sh*t, and he's too full of himself. Since it's OK for you to diss Balotelli, then I think it's OK for me to diss Muntari, too.



Bonera's?

It was a joke FFS, no malice intended.

Posted by: Danny Oct 25 2014, 10:06 PM

We BOTH diss Balotelli

He's a complete and total joke of a player who has now finally been found out.

I agree on several aspects of Muntari, I just think sometimes if you go up to someone and dishonour them to their face, they have every right to be very angry. The smashing of the iPad was OTT I agree, but we know Muntari is a hothead. Which kind of suggests playing such a 'joke' on him is sheer stupidity.

Posted by: Danny Oct 25 2014, 10:07 PM

I did condemn the violence.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 26 2014, 09:32 AM

His violent reaction was out of line. The stupidity of the joke however is shocking as well.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 26 2014, 09:56 AM

He could have just ignored him and drove off like De Rossi. Let's not try to excuse him destroying personal property and threatening someone because of a stupid joke

Posted by: Danny Oct 26 2014, 10:28 AM

No one did?

Posted by: han2503 Oct 26 2014, 10:31 AM

Saying that the guy shouldn't have made that joke in the first place because it's not right, etc is in a way excusing him.

A joke is a joke, no matter how inappropriate, no need to do what he did, and not just with the tablet

Posted by: Danny Oct 26 2014, 12:00 PM

No it isn't, it's saying the joke was out of line. The violence was too, but the reaction wasn't.



A joke is only a joke if the recipient takes it as one. As you said, Di Rossi didn't take it as one either.

Anyway this is as pointless an argument as I've seen on here, and I've seen some really pointless arguments!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 26 2014, 01:29 PM

No need to do it - sure, agreed. But saying "a joke is a joke" is just a slogan, nothing more. Clearly the joke was stupid, offensive and inappropriate.

So in the end, both parties showed immaturity.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 26 2014, 01:50 PM

Well x-off brought this on here, you guys decided to turn this into a debate, just like when we vent in match threads and the Muntari obsessed comments start. It's obvious that it's going to start up a debate

And for me a joke is still a joke, even if you don't take it well, there's no need to be a pr!ck about it. De Rossi didn't take it well either but he didn't get out of the car, smash his tablet and threaten the guy, talk about going OTT!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 10 2015, 01:52 PM

Past players please. Some other guys should be moved from this bunch as well.

Posted by: han2503 Jul 10 2015, 02:37 PM

Took care of all of them

Hopefully some more before the end of the summer

Posted by: X-Offender Jul 27 2015, 12:00 PM

Muntari has signed for Al-Ittihad. €7 million per season for two years.

Posted by: William405 Jul 27 2015, 12:26 PM

This guy has a really good agent.

Posted by: Danny Jul 27 2015, 12:36 PM

Roughly 150,000 a week. A move purely for the money. At this stage of his career he's decided to hell with sporting glory and now just wants the scrillah.

And guess what, why the heck not? I'd do the same.

Posted by: X-Offender Jul 27 2015, 01:51 PM

Oh no, don't get me wrong. He's done the right thing. My facepalm was directed towards the club that signed him.

Posted by: Danny Jul 27 2015, 02:27 PM

Arabic clubs sign anyone and at incredibly high wages. It's why so many stars at the end of their careers go there.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 28 2015, 08:44 AM

Good luck with his new club!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 28 2015, 12:28 PM

Seems that way!

Posted by: han2503 Jul 28 2015, 01:35 PM

As long as he's not leeching off of Milan I couldn't care less. All I have to say is " " at the club

And " " to Muntari and especially his agent

Posted by: rip Jul 28 2015, 06:02 PM

not the word i would use to descibe muntari. but thats just me , donno about others

Posted by: Danny Jul 28 2015, 08:08 PM

Me neither

He ain't one, but many stars do go there. That said, he's a well-known player with dozens of caps for Ghana and a career in Serie A. That's fairly marquee on paper?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 29 2015, 02:11 PM

Yeah! He went to the second biggest in Saudi, based in Jeddah. We have a member here who is also from Jeddah, can't recall who.

football is HUGE in Saudi, the domestic money generated in Saudi from football is twice or thrice that Serie A generates.