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Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jun 17 2011, 10:59 AM
Recent Serie A Champions (Since '92)
92/93 AC Milan
93/94 AC Milan
94/95 Juventus
95/96 AC Milan
96/97 Juventus
97/98 Juventus
98/99 AC Milan
99/00 Lazio
00/01 Roma
01/02 Juventus
02/03 Juventus
03/04 AC Milan
04/05 Calciopoli
05/06 Inter Milan
06/07 Inter Milan
07/08 Inter Milan
08/09 Inter Milan
09/10 Inter Milan
10/11 AC Milan
Holders
Serie A: AC Milan
Coppa Italia: Inter Milan
European Entries
Champions League
AC Milan
Inter Milan
Napoli
Udinese
Europa League
Lazio
Roma
Palermo
Promoted from Serie B:
Atalanta
Siena
Novara
Serie A 2011/12 team list
AC Milan, Atalanta, Bologna, Cagliari, Catania, Cesena, Chievo, Fiorentina, Genoa, Inter Milan, Juventus, Lazio, Lecce, Napoli, Novara, Palermo, Parma, Roma, Siena, Udinese.
Serie A 2010/2011 stats:
Most goals in Serie A: Antonio Di Natale (28)
Most goals for Milan: Ibrahimović/Pato/Robinho (14)
Most assists in Serie A: Andrea Cossu (13)
Most assists for Milan: Ibrahimović (11)
Best defense: Milan (24)
Best attack: Inter (69)
Other stats:
Most seasons in Serie A: Inter (80)
Most goals in Serie A: Silvio Piola (274)
Most goals in Serie A by a active player: Francesco Totti (207)
Most goals by a active Milan player in Serie A: Pippo Inzaghi (155, 19th overall)
Most matches in Serie A: Paolo Maldini (647)
Most matches by a active player: Francesco Totti (207)
Oldest active player: Francesco Antonioli (41 years)
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 17 2011, 02:10 PM
You forgot to highlight 93/94 & 95/96
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jun 17 2011, 02:23 PM
D'oh
I guess there are just too many titles 
Nice spot, fixed.
Predictions guys?
I think us for the Serie A & Roma for the Coppa Italia.
Posted by: dst Jun 17 2011, 02:40 PM
You should also put "faxed to Inter" next to 05/06
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jun 17 2011, 02:42 PM
Yeah I knew this would cause some controversy, I used Wiki as a template for it - not the best I know.
Posted by: arivanjj Jun 17 2011, 03:35 PM
Brazilian defender Juan has postponed talk of a return to former club Flamengo. “I want a Scudetto with Roma first.”
... 
Posted by: acid911 Jun 17 2011, 04:06 PM
I kinda like Juan, always have, but this should be in the Jokes section. 
I have more chances of walking on the moon, than Roma winning the title next year. Or the year after that. And after that. Their problems run deeper than the eyes can see. Perhaps someone should teach them to manage their expectations.
Or maybe Juan wants to play till he is 59, who knows? Milan, inter and Juve won't let Roma win the league.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jun 17 2011, 04:19 PM
Yeah can't see Roma doing it, Juan isn't a bad player though. Be interesting to see how he does without Mexes.
Posted by: Zed.D Jun 17 2011, 06:16 PM
Last season I really thought Inter would win the Scudetto again and expand their lead on us but we did great to level with them again. so, here's hoping we get where we deserve to be, above Inter. let's also hope they hire yet another incompetent coach
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 17 2011, 06:27 PM
My bet would be someone other then Milan or Inter, but I don't wanna be pessimistic, so I'll say Milan for the Serie A and Napoli Coppa.
As for relegation, I expect Novara, Cagliari and Lecce to go down.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Jun 17 2011, 06:53 PM
I think we are gonna win it again but it might be closer this time.
Hard to predict now when the squads are incomplete and merda is still without a coach.
Posted by: mishie Jun 18 2011, 07:47 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/jun18x.html
with that clown in charge at least it rules them out of the title race!
Posted by: Danny Jun 18 2011, 07:50 PM
I'm so glad Inter are back to their former selves. Their purple patch came when Mancini elevated them a bit then Mourinho just owned Serie A then Europe. Now they're back to a revolving door of subpar coaches.
I hate to say it, but I sort of hope Juve get back to something like their old selves, though with Conte in charge I suspect it unlikely.
We are the only strong consistent team in Serie A - the league is weak as long as the other 2 of the big 3 are this fragile.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 18 2011, 08:13 PM
with that clown in charge at least it rules them out of the title race!
I wouldn't underestimate Mihajlovic if I were you. But it looks like Marco Branca is currently in Oporto to negotiate for Villas Boas.
Posted by: mishie Jun 18 2011, 08:26 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/jun18v.html
looks like it's that theory out the window, i don't underestimate Mihajolvic i just have to look at what he done last season...he was 90 mins away from being sacked
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 18 2011, 08:51 PM
Mihajlovic? Why would we overestimate him as well? What has he done to be praised so far? Everywhere he went so far he ended up being sacked or just near that.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 19 2011, 12:57 AM
Haha, there was a discusion about this very same topic on some TV channel tonight, and Maura Suma (Milan Channel director) went on defending Mihajlovic stating some very good points. The Fiorentina of last season had probably the weakest squad of the last 4-5 years. Their summer signing campaign was pathetic. They had a shitload of injuries, including their best player, Jovetic. They had the Mutu issue to deal with. Many of their "stars" failed to meet the expectations. Not to mention Mihajlovic had to replace someone like Prandelli, which isn't easy.
Let's make it clear, I've never liked Mihajlovic, but the guy did the best he could given the situation at hand.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 19 2011, 01:09 AM
Well, that's a pretty fluid thing - I mean - obviously he did the best he could given the situation because we never will find out what else could have had been done instead.
Anyway, I get your/Suma's point, but is it enough for a club with ambitions like Inter? I don't think so. His other two jobs previous to Fiorentina can't be defended in the same way.
May it turn out wrong, but I don't get why we should rate Mihajlovic at this point? Maybe he'll turn out fine, his sh@tty mentality is very much compatible with Inters. To me it's just a bonus, a nice cream on the cake - in hating Inter.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 19 2011, 02:20 AM
I never intended that he's a good choice for Inter. That debate is open for discussion.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Jun 19 2011, 06:02 AM
He was unimpressive also before Fiorentina and I don't rate him highly at all. He's welcome to join them, this is much better choice for us than AVB, who I hope will remain at Porto.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 19 2011, 08:07 PM
So, Genoa has officially announced Alberto Malesani as their new coach. I'm not sure about it. Malesani is a good fireman, he can handle the pressure with teams bound for relegation or mid-table. The one time he was in a team with actual potential (Parma), he didn't do well. We'll see.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 19 2011, 08:37 PM
He won the UEFA Cup, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 19 2011, 08:52 PM
Yep, but afterwards failed. But you corrected me right. Don't know how I could forget that 1999 final against Marseille.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2011, 07:38 PM
The former Real Madrid coach is hardly flavour of the month among supporters or FA chiefs, and the opportunity to recoup a pay-off for the man who costs them an estimated £5million-a-year in wages could be too much to resist.
Inter president Massimo Moratti already eluded to the fact that Capello could be on their agenda, and now it seems he’s ready to pounce for the man who’s lifted seven Serie A titles as manager.
‘There is always a favourite, but until you get everything in place there are a thousand conditions that can determine whether or not you actually get a particular coach,’ Moratti stated.
‘The chances of Luciano Spalletti [Zenit], Guus Hiddink and Fabio Capello? We'll see and discuss that in due course.’
If Inter succeed in luring Capello away from Soho Square, Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp, who's widely tipped to replace the Italian anyway after Euro 2012, would be installed as immediate favourite to take over.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 20 2011, 08:26 PM
I really hope this doesn't happen. We'll find out in the next 24 hours.
Posted by: dst Jun 20 2011, 09:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQm9RJfoVoA will always be Malesani for me... 
f___ Greek football! 
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 20 2011, 09:51 PM
Malesani and PAO
This and the Trap-Bayern show are classics.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 21 2011, 10:52 AM
So, seems like Juventus officially signed Lichtsteiner from Lazio for 1 million Euros. That's a bargain deal IMO.
Maybe this will give us a chance to sell Oddo to them. They'll need a new fullback now.
Also, I'm seeing Parma is interested in Manuele Blasi and Santacroce of Napoli. To think we all drooled only on the mentioning of his name a few years ago...
Posted by: Kazdoodle Jun 21 2011, 10:55 AM
Really impressed they got lichtsteiner on the cheap like very cheap
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 21 2011, 12:29 PM
You meant €10 million, I suppose?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 21 2011, 12:41 PM
1 million .. 10 million .. 100 million who cares
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 21 2011, 12:47 PM
No, because Juventus and Lazio were fighting over the past couple of weeks about his price. Juventus offered €9 million, whilst Lazio requested €10 million. So it'd be kind of odd if in the end they sold him for just €1 million.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 22 2011, 11:14 AM
Yeah, 10 not 1 - Oddo is worth 1 million these days, so...
Posted by: vahid Jun 22 2011, 12:31 PM
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2011/06/22/2542877/breaking-news-juventus-announce-signing-of-alessandro-matri
I think those deals worth something about €35 million.I wish we had that kind of money 
Posted by: William405 Jun 22 2011, 12:49 PM
They even bought out Motta,lol!Both,Quagliarella and Matri are good signings,even if they didn't come for cheap.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 22 2011, 01:01 PM
Well, Juve has been spending much money in the last 2-3 years, but there's little gain/success. I become a bit fond of them, and for Italy's sake it's always good to have a strong Juventus team.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jun 22 2011, 04:49 PM
So it looks like Roma will buy Bojan for about 10M, thoughts?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 22 2011, 05:46 PM
This can end up both ways IMO, I'm really not sure. He's talented and Luis Enrique is the right man to take charge of him, but there are some doubts.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 22 2011, 06:20 PM
He was brilliant a few years back, but the emergance of Pedro seemed to spell the end for him.
Posted by: Zed.D Jun 23 2011, 01:06 PM
It was the right time for Bojan to move on. as talented as he is, he wouldn't have found a place in that team. and he won enough medals as a sub so there was no reason to stay.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 23 2011, 01:59 PM
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/inter/articoli/62529/gasp-inter-conto-alla-rovescia.shtml
LOL.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 23 2011, 09:00 PM
That's great news. I'd prefer Mihajlovic, but Gasperini is also good. Two days ago, Capello and Villas Boas, now Gasperini.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 23 2011, 09:52 PM
The good old days
2010/2011 - Milan - merda dual
2011/2012 - Milan - Roma dual
Posted by: Danny Jun 24 2011, 09:01 PM
Ok, I've heard the name Gasperini before, but I'm not overly familiar with him.
Anyone enlighten me?
But it is good that they seem to have gone with something of a non entity. Can they not attract a top class coach any more?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 25 2011, 05:47 AM
F@ckin rich oil sheikh!
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 25 2011, 06:25 AM
That can't be a valid argument for us milanfans considering our current & previous coach were anything but 'top class'
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 25 2011, 12:42 PM
True .. But I believe Dr Galliani's team have proven their ability in spotting the potential behind those 'not top class' coaches.
There is something very special about Milan, it does not have a material feel to it, yet it gives this club the aura of greatness that surrounds it.
PS: This could be my emotions speaking .. As I have almost blind faith in Galliani and the Berlusconi family to keep us on the podium of world football.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 25 2011, 01:12 PM
Not just that - there is a very distinct difference between Gasperini and Allegri or Leonardo. Milan chose Allegri as a talented young coach who still is green in many ways, but won some awards for the past seasons in a very thigh competition. Gasperini on the other hand is much older, and with much more overall experience from his times at Crotone and Genoa. Only time will tell if Gasperini is up to the task.
Posted by: Danny Jun 25 2011, 01:41 PM
Difference is we don't have a recent history of attracting top class coaches. I wasn't talking about us, Inter are the ones who got Mourinho then Benitez.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 25 2011, 01:43 PM
But Milan never did. Can't remember the last time we hired a previously top-rated coach. Only comebacks, like Rocco or Capello.
Inter on the other hand tried Capello, Ancelotti, Vilas Boas, Hiddink,...and then picked Gasperini.
That's a big difference.
Posted by: Danny Jun 25 2011, 02:17 PM
Inter on the other hand tried Capello, Ancelotti, Vilas Boas, Hiddink,...and then picked Gasperini.
That's a big difference.
I know, you're agreeing with me!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jun 26 2011, 04:55 PM
Is it me or are these american owners of roma really coming out flat. i mean they really made a splash with liverpool. And with all the players oil money is buying for malaga, citeh, PSG. I can't help think roma fans must be a little sad their cash cows are all but. None the less i really want to see them match-up against udinese nest season.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 26 2011, 05:12 PM
Udine? I expect Udinese to go down below place 7 next seasons, it's a tradition.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jun 26 2011, 05:32 PM
well it is more a question of watching udinese's high power offense with roma's barca-style attack.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 28 2011, 12:38 AM
I've been reading Red Bull is up to a possible Fiorentina takeover. As much as it would hurt Milan, the competition is good for the sake of Serie A, and ultimately also Milan.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 28 2011, 02:28 AM
Are you sure? I think Roma are moving in the right direction. They hired an experienced sporting director, a young and promising coach, and now they're going after important names like Bojan, Clichy, Lamela, Alvarez, Stekelenburg etc. I believe they will be a team to look out for next season.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 28 2011, 08:29 PM
Indeed. Malaga, Liverpool and other clubs were mentioned, but also, their success is questionable at least. I think Roma is trying to invest wisely, and by doing so, going a slightingly different and better path.
Posted by: dst Jun 28 2011, 08:46 PM
would I be a bad Milan fan then if I continued drinking it?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 28 2011, 08:48 PM
Do G&B have Pirelli calendars at home?
Posted by: dst Jun 28 2011, 08:54 PM
They don't?
next thing, you're going to tell me Galliani does not use Nivea for his hair...
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 29 2011, 04:46 AM
SkySports: Fiorentina deny Red Bull link
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_7008537,00.html
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Jun 29 2011, 10:13 AM
Serie A Ball Season 2011/12 :
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 29 2011, 11:02 AM
next thing, you're going to tell me Galliani does not use Nivea for his hair...
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Jun 29 2011, 12:57 PM
Hopefully won't bring as many stories with it as the Jabulani, saying that no-one really seems to complain about the Nike balls, bar the goalkeepers, but they complain about everything.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 29 2011, 07:48 PM
A Facebook page dedicated to Milan - Everything Ac Milan:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everything-Ac-Milan/345458901947
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 29 2011, 09:49 PM
Seems that Cassani could be signed by Lazio. They have been doing pretty good this summer, considering Klose is signed already and Marchetti + Cassani are on way.
Posted by: X-Offender Jun 30 2011, 12:39 AM
Don't forget Cana.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 30 2011, 06:33 PM
Cana is crazy. He seems to spend more time suspended than actually playing.
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Jun 30 2011, 07:36 PM
That's not true.
Posted by: dst Jun 30 2011, 11:35 PM
Brad Pitt and Jolie? Pfft. Matri and Nargi look better... http://www.sport24.gr/Paraxena/oi_kaytes_diakopes_toy_matri.1129243.html
damn, that girl Nargi is so beautiful!!!
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Jun 30 2011, 11:40 PM
damn, that girl Nargi is so beautiful!!!
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Jul 2 2011, 01:11 PM
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 2 2011, 02:02 PM
That is awful! Their away shirts recently have been really nce too.
Posted by: Kazdoodle Jul 2 2011, 03:35 PM
I liek . *loves the colour*. but they will ruin it once they get bet clic on it with the background
Posted by: Zed.D Jul 2 2011, 07:19 PM
Adidas and Nike really need new designers. lots of strange shirts lately.
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Jul 2 2011, 08:13 PM
Genoa bought so far:
- Danilo Russo - Vicenza
- Kevin Vinetot - Crotone
- Andreas Granqvist - Groningen
- Sokratis Papastathopoulos - Milan
- Constant - Chievo Verona
- Alexander Merkel - Milan
- Cristobal Jorquera - Colo Colo
- Sebastian Ribas - Dijon
- Felipe Seymour - Universidad Chile
- Valter Birsa - Auxerre
- Zé Eduardo - Santos
- Mattia Destro - Inter
- Fernando Forestieri - Udinese
- Riccardo Meggiorini - Bologna
- Giacomo Beretta - Milan
- Lucas Pratto - Boca Juniors
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 2 2011, 08:24 PM
Juventus always has a interesting second dress. This one is crappy IMO, I hoped they've learned something from their last pink venture. But this one I used to adore:
------------
About Genoa:
Zé Eduardo is a big question mark for me. From the matches for Santos I've seen by him, he's solid, but his finishing is very poor. I'm really not sure how he'll integrate.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Jul 2 2011, 10:49 PM
Juve's away shirt reminds me of the (former) band THE PINK☆PANDA
Posted by: William405 Jul 11 2011, 04:13 PM
Inler was unveiled by the club on Monday in curious circumstances when he appeared at the side’s presentation of their new jersey wearing a lion mask.
“Napoli are a great club and I want to fly high with this outfit,” said the Switzerland international.
“The important thing is that everybody gives their best on the pitch and that we all stay united.”
The Azzurri had agreed a deal with Udinese at the start of the summer, but reaching a compromise over personal terms has taken some weeks.
“Now all that matters is Napoli,” the man who had also attracted the interest of Juventus and Bayer Leverkusen continued.
“Every objective is important and it will be nice to play for all the major honours that are available on a weekly basis.
“I decided to come here some time ago. This is a new chapter for me so I want to give my best for the fans. I want to win something for them.
“Napoli, like Udinese, have some young champions. I’m very happy that I can now play alongside them.”
The Azzurri hope to challenge for the Scudetto and in the Champions League in the new season.
It has not been confirmed how much Inler has cost the Stadio San Paolo outfit, but it is understood to be around €15m.
Pretty awesome if you ask me ;D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQA7Iot0QY&feature=player_embedded
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 11 2011, 04:47 PM
Inler seemed a bit confused. I don't know, I found this presentation...well...ridiculous.
Posted by: William405 Jul 11 2011, 05:45 PM
Lol,well yeah.But,the idea is pretty nice,and for a club like Napoli I believe Inler is a great swoop...although I'm developing a hate towards their current president.
Posted by: arivanjj Jul 12 2011, 02:09 PM
goal.com
what are they up to now?
Posted by: CHU-LIP Jul 12 2011, 02:57 PM
Getting a good squad.
So sick they do that!
Posted by: Zed.D Jul 12 2011, 07:49 PM
When I hear this name only one thing comes to my mind: broken legs!
He better stay away from Flamini.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 12 2011, 08:05 PM
A few (crappy) sites saying Vucinic will decide to join either Juve or Spurs. Bit of a no brainer that, surely? Juve will have a lot of attacking options if he goes there.
Posted by: William405 Jul 12 2011, 08:10 PM
I read just a few days ago that confirmed that Roma didn't want to sell him,who knows.Though,I thought Juve were after Aguero,now that would be a massive capture!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 12 2011, 08:14 PM
I read that he was going to talk with the new owner, didn't see anything about the outcome of it though.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Jul 12 2011, 10:13 PM
As if Vucinic needs to worry about those attacking options at Juve. He will be a starter there. Why is it a no brainer to you?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 12 2011, 10:34 PM
Who said he's gonna be a starter?
And while I agree that Lazio is trying to get better, Djibril Cisse isn't a step in the right direction.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jul 12 2011, 10:39 PM
An average english club or a top Italian club with tremendous history looking to be back on the rise?
It's a no brainer to me as well (if the rumor is in fact correct)
Posted by: dst Jul 12 2011, 10:53 PM
Cisse is more of a step in the right direction than Klose that's for sure... I can't see Aguero being very successful in Italy either, he'll get less chances here and he's a mediocre finisher.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 12 2011, 10:54 PM
I'm thinking you maybe misunderstood my post. I think anyone would pick Juve of the 2 teams, I wasn't suggesting he should pick Spurs.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 12 2011, 10:58 PM
I don't think either of them is to be true, but I expect more out of Klose. Cisse didn't exactly shine for years, and he's injury prone as hell.
Posted by: arivanjj Jul 13 2011, 12:45 AM
they're both the best Lazio can muster up and i think they're both good signings cause they have potential to be power pair.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 13 2011, 08:58 AM
Marchetti -Muslera(for now)-Diatike-Konko-radu-hernanes-canvada-Kozak-Zarate-Mauri-Barreto and now you add some big names like Cana, Cisse and Klose to share their experience with the other players. I hate Lazio, but i think that it's an exciting time to be a biancocelestri fan...
Posted by: Jack Bauer Jul 22 2011, 07:59 PM
Juve signed Vidal for about 12M. They also want to sign G. Rossi.
Roma is negotiating with Ajax for Stekelenburg. Not gonna cost them too much as his contract is ending in a year.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 22 2011, 08:37 PM
Good moves from Juve, though they need a left winger badly. Neither Pepe nor Marchisio are valid alternatives. If they sign Bastos, then I can see them competing for runners-up.
Lichtsteiner - Bonucci - Chiellini - Ziegler
Krasic - Pirlo - Vidal - Bastos
Rossi - Matri
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 22 2011, 09:08 PM
Well, Arturo Vidal played more then once a fullback at Leverkusen. I think you had that in mind too when they signed him.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 22 2011, 10:04 PM
50% of Bonucci + Cash for Vargas and then signing Kjaer were rumours I saw recently (Football Italia I think?), which would also solve their LW problem and give them a top CB pairing.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 22 2011, 10:08 PM
it's ideal for them but at the same time, surely they can't by close to a new starting 11...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 22 2011, 10:49 PM
Vargas is a choker and way to overrated if you ask me.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 23 2011, 10:41 AM
Carlitos confirmed again this week he wants to leave Eastlands and is looking for a transfer in South America or in Europe.
According to the Corriere dello Sport, the Nerazzurri have hatched a new plan to get hold of the want-away striker.
Similar to the way Milan bought Zlatan Ibrahimovic from Barcelona a year ago, it would involve a year-long loan with mandatory buy-out clause at the end of the season.
A meeting is set for July 31, which is when Inter and Manchester City will face off for the Dublin Super Cup tournament.
The Nerazzurri had initially wanted to offer Samuel Eto’o or Wesley Sneijder as part of the deal, but appear to have changed their minds.
Both players want to stay at San Siro, so Inter could hand over the full €45m cash sum instead.
There is another option, as Jose Mourinho’s Real Madrid are said to be keeping a close eye on the Tevez situation.
-Football Italia
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 11:09 AM
I hope Inter sign him, they deserve each other.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 03:44 PM
Maybe, but they signed him mainly to play next to Pirlo, as Melo is going to Galatasaray as well.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 03:45 PM
And Roma signed Gabriel Heinze. He's 33 and a bit shabby, but I think it's a good signing. Serie A next year will definitively be a more interesting place. It's really a pitty if Milan's plans were shattered by the Finivest decision.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 03:47 PM
What about Sissoko? I mean, they have more fullback problems then midfield problems?
Hmh, Gala with Muslera and Melo. Interesting.
Also, Lazio is after Vargas as well.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 04:50 PM
I don't think so.
Ziegler is a decent leftback. And they have De Ceglie too.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 23 2011, 04:56 PM
Lazio, Roma, Cessena, Juventus, Genoa, Napoli & Inter have all improved their squads from last year. I don't, however, think that we will have a big summer mercato until next year.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 04:59 PM
We've signed Mexes, Taiwo, El Sharaawy and Paloschi. If we sign the infamous Mr. X as well, then it would be a really good mercato for us. However, I think the bad move from our management was keeping all the oldies. We should have left free at least a couple of them.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 23 2011, 05:18 PM
Well that's why i didn't include us in that list, of all of our signings, none are guaranteed to be starters from game 1.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 05:19 PM
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 05:20 PM
Taiwo is.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 23 2011, 05:27 PM
i'd like to think so but Zambro will want to play
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 05:37 PM
Nobody cares what Zambro wants anymore.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 23 2011, 06:42 PM
He made a case for being a starting LB last year, he also allowed the LM to be a more attacking position in the tactical setup then RM.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 06:51 PM
Then Abate won't play hahah...
Posted by: Dracoris Jul 23 2011, 07:00 PM
I hope Abate continues to improve this year, what a quality RB he could become....
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 07:18 PM
We had no quality LB last season. Zambrotta was our best choice. With Taiwo, he'll just have to accept the bench. Not to mention his contract ends next summer, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 07:20 PM
I don't think it will present a problem. Our fullbacks are usually injured, so there will be enough first team appearances for Zambrotta, Taiwo and Abate.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Jul 23 2011, 08:08 PM
I don't know why you got the impression that Zambrotta is a must starter, but surely Abate will remain our starting rightback. Zambrotta can play there when Abate cannot. If Taiwo impresses he will be our starting leftback. Zambrotta will only start as rotation/backup, or if Taiwo fails to impress enough.
All of Abate, Taiwo, and Zambrotta will get enough playing time, ye. Shame we loaned out Vilà. Because I think he would get to play enough too with Taiwo going on African Cup of Nations. And now we put risk on assuming Taiwo will succeed immediatly as our new leftback.
Zambrotta is an ideal backup fullback. Solid, can play on both sides, but the time he should be a starter should be history. Antonini on the other hand, not so solid.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 23 2011, 10:00 PM
I never said that. Relax
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 23 2011, 10:18 PM
All of Abate, Taiwo, and Zambrotta will get enough playing time, ye. Shame we loaned out Vilà. Because I think he would get to play enough too with Taiwo going on African Cup of Nations. And now we put risk on assuming Taiwo will succeed immediatly as our new leftback.
Zambrotta is an ideal backup fullback. Solid, can play on both sides, but the time he should be a starter should be history. Antonini on the other hand, not so solid.
+1
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 24 2011, 04:09 PM
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/mercato/articoli/64526/pastore-chelsea-accordo-vicino.shtml
Posted by: acid911 Jul 24 2011, 04:13 PM
Holy Molly! 
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 24 2011, 07:13 PM
Chelsea seem to be thinking about signing more players too. No chance will they be breaking even any time soon. Do UEFA have the balls to block them entry to the CL? Do they hell.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 26 2011, 04:16 PM
Aquilani's agent says he'll be going to Fiorentina for the season, Montolivo going where then?
Posted by: CHU-LIP Jul 26 2011, 06:47 PM
Most likely Milan.
Posted by: Danny Jul 27 2011, 12:56 PM
Heard good things about him. Good age, Italian international. I'd take him.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 27 2011, 01:47 PM
Naah, people somehow rate this guy, but in fact, he's a big time choker and a very regular player, nothing special about him. Mostly emotions and the wish to find a new creative midfielder in Italy made his reputation, but that's about it. He was promising, was being the key word.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 27 2011, 03:59 PM
+1
Posted by: Jack Bauer Jul 27 2011, 10:43 PM
De Laurentiis was pissed off about Napoli's draw (they have tough league matches after CL games) and left in the middle of the draw, saying crazy stuff while catching a ride with some random guy on the scooter.
http://youtu.be/SuUKUDBxZtc
Posted by: nuh Jul 27 2011, 11:01 PM
serie a is full of nuters
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 27 2011, 11:21 PM
He's a complete idiot.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 29 2011, 10:01 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2019980/Tottenham-use-David-Bentley-Niko-Kranjcar-Robbie-Keane-bait.html
I like Kranjcar, but if I were Luis Enrique I'd be checking my calender to see if it's April 1st. Was Redknapp actually serious with that offer?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 29 2011, 10:05 AM
Sure. Those are massive wages he's getting off his payroll. He could land Vucinic for 70k a week easily I think.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 29 2011, 10:09 AM
I get that. But I meant did he actually think that offer would be accepted? Those players aren't worth £10m together.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 29 2011, 12:13 PM
So, PSG signed officially Sissoko and Salvatore Sirigu. Great signings for them, but I don't get why Leo is only focusing on players from Italy?
On another note, Marseille and PSG are after Borriello, while Juventus is looking to sign Lugano.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jul 29 2011, 12:21 PM
PSG is now on for pastore 45 million!
Posted by: acid911 Jul 29 2011, 12:22 PM
Maybe it's because he's observed their characteristics over the years, and knows them inside out.
Not to mention the players who play in the Italian league are much, much more tactically astute than the ones in the other leagues. FACT. The ones who play in EPL, German, or Spanish leagues have different strengths.Either way, good for him. Let's see how these new purchases go for PSG.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 29 2011, 12:46 PM
Ah, I hadn't realised PSG talk had been posted in here first. Fillipo beat me to it.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 29 2011, 01:23 PM
Naah, my bad, those were Italy-related transfers, so I posted them here, but the French League thread makes more sense.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 29 2011, 06:59 PM
Juventus sign Vucinic for €16 million.
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/juventus/articoli/64883/juve-affare-fatto-per-vucinic.shtml
I hear they're after Diego Lugano as well. He's cheap and reliable, would be a good signing.
I can see now Juve playing with a 4-3-3, where Marchisio would be valued more.
Lichtsteiner - Lugano - Chiellini - Ziegler
Vidal - Pirlo - Marchisio
Krasic - Matri - Vucinic
Posted by: amancik Jul 29 2011, 07:04 PM
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/juventus/articoli/64883/juve-affare-fatto-per-vucinic.shtml
I hear they're after Diego Lugano as well. He's cheap and reliable, would be a good signing.
I can see now Juve playing with a 4-3-3, where Marchisio would be valued more.
Lichtsteiner - Lugano - Chiellini - Ziegler
Vidal - Pirlo - Marchisio
Krasic - Matri - Vucinic
That's a pretty good line-up.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 29 2011, 07:05 PM
+1
Posted by: han2503 Jul 29 2011, 08:22 PM
They have a better midfield then us that's for sure
Posted by: Jack Bauer Jul 30 2011, 10:47 AM
Stekelenburg arrived to Roma. the deal is almost done.
http://www.football-italia.net/jul30i.html
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 30 2011, 11:18 AM
Good move, their goalkeeping situation has been a bit all over the place in recent years.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 30 2011, 11:48 AM
Finally they got rid of the Brazilian keepers. He's a good one. Juventus and Roma really building a strong team for this season. I'll say it again, Serie A should be nothing like the one we had last year.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 30 2011, 12:03 PM
Well, to be honest, Roma have signed Stekelenburg, Lamela and Bojan, but they've also lost Mexes, Menez and Vucinic. I don't know if they've really strengthened themselves.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 30 2011, 12:11 PM
You forgot Heinze.
It's the right step forward I think. Plus the transfer deadline isn't over just yet, I expect they sign at least one more.
Posted by: X-Offender Jul 30 2011, 02:52 PM
Heinze isn't exactly an upgrade to Burdisso now is he?
Posted by: Danny Jul 30 2011, 03:13 PM
Weird seeing Pirlo line up for Juventus.
Posted by: Danny Jul 30 2011, 04:41 PM
Our city rivals Inter playing our city rivals Celtic today (If only there was a fellow Rangers/Milan on here fan to appreciate this statement).
Dublin Super Cup it is, and both groups of players ended up in a fight in the centre circle. Then Inter scored.
I hate Celtic way more, so ha ha ha.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 30 2011, 05:27 PM
Is that the tournement in Ireland?
Posted by: Danny Jul 30 2011, 05:48 PM
I'd have thought 'Dublin' might have given that away
This match is hilarious tbh. Inter 2-0 but both teams are kicking lumps out each other. Cards flying all over the place and Motta's been sent off.
It's great to see 2 teams I hate knocking chunks out of each other.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 30 2011, 05:59 PM
Inter's Faraoni looks good as a lb
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 30 2011, 06:17 PM
This Faraoni is really impressing. just took a dangerous shot
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 31 2011, 12:57 AM
I've always rated Heinze above him, even nowadays.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jul 31 2011, 06:26 PM
Inter's teens + backups lost to Man City's first team 3-0
Posted by: vahid Aug 1 2011, 05:26 PM
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/08/01/2600527/breaking-news-juventus-sign-mirko-vucinic-from-roma-in-15
Now their total spending is €75.05 million.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 1 2011, 05:31 PM
A bulk of their spending is coming from their "security" budget.
This is a cushion every club has in order to pay day to day expenses and whatnot. They burned through their main transfer kitty a long while ago. Maybe it's the allure of the new stadium, but nevertheless if something goes wrong, Juve is going to be in big trouble.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 1 2011, 05:39 PM
They had to pay-up some of the players they got on loan last season: Motta, Pepe, Quagliarella and Matri.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 1 2011, 05:48 PM
Exactly.
One thing's though: Juve fans can't complain their management isn't trying. After the utter humiliation of last two years (and particularly THAT season), their board has gone in for an Italian base and plenty of players. It didn't pan out well up till now, maybe things will change from now on.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 1 2011, 06:19 PM
Juve will be fine this season. Really like the look of their squad.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 1 2011, 06:37 PM
Yes, I expect them to finish Top 3. At least.
And if it does, then Serie A sanity will be restored, provided both Milan clubs take the first two spots, the usual suspects. I don't like either of our main rivals, but can't say no to a good fight for the title. The last few championships have been anything but.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 1 2011, 09:47 PM
Well, I'm still uncertain. Maybe their fans can be pleased with the management, but I'd never ever change their managerial team with ours. And secondly, the need time to gel. I expect them to be good, but not sure how good.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 3 2011, 12:36 PM
Hmh, so...
Gilardino wanted by Genoa, a offer of 11 million € could be accepted.
Juventus after Alex, Lugano is only an alternative. I must say, these days I sure rate Lugano more then Alex. Bonnuci is set to leave the club if Alex or Lugano will be bought.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 3 2011, 01:45 PM
Why? I'd keep both Bonucci and Barzagli as subs of Chiellini and Alex/Lugano.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 3 2011, 03:12 PM
The Chelsea Alex? I don't rate him that highly at all, he's just not that great defensively.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 3 2011, 03:53 PM
I don't know. Apparently some offers from Russia. That could be lucrative.
Yep, that one. And yes, I also don't rate him that high. Just another player we used to drool about here.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 4 2011, 07:20 PM
Galliani fears demise of calcio
Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani is concerned about Italian football’s future at club level. “We’re like a pizzeria.”
Serie A clubs were once a force to be respected in European competition during the 1990s and 2000s, but that is no longer the case.
Italy have now fallen behind England, Spain and Germany in the UEFA club rankings which means that only the top three this term, instead of four, will qualify for the 2012-13 Champions League.
“Thanks to the new stadiums being built for Euro 2016, I predict that the French will also overtake us," the Rossoneri director and former Lega Calcio chief told La Gazzetta dello Sport.
"We could be competitive with equal factors and situations, but unfortunately that's not the case,” he continued.
"Spain has the advantage that they don't have collective TV rights, Germany have overtaken us thanks to the wonderful new stadiums they built for the World Cup in 2006.
"It's like theatres and restaurants. There are beautiful theatres and ugly ones, there are luxury restaurants and then pizzerias.
"But we can't do anything. Without stadiums we can't do anything and without a new law we can't construct new stadiums.
"Even the politicians have understood that, but the design of the law has remained blocked between the two branches of parliament."
Juventus will become the first top-flight Italian club to actually own their own stadium when their new arena opens for 2011-12.
Despite Galliani’s pessimistic overall look of the future, he did add that he hopes his Milan could get Italy back on the right track this term.
"We've become outsiders but there are always surprises in the Champions League,” he noted.
“Look at Schalke last year, they got to the semi-finals. I hope Milan can be the next surprise.”
Link: http://football-italia.net/aug4r.html
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 4 2011, 11:48 PM
I remember i time not too fargone, where we aspired to more then hopfully "sneak" into the semi-s...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 5 2011, 02:23 AM
Times sure have changed
Posted by: Zed.D Aug 5 2011, 09:15 AM
Galliani likes to repeat himself doesn't he? we've been hearing this **** for almost 4 years now but no action apart from Juve ironically. EITHER BUILD A NEW STADIUM OR SHUT UP! I'm sure Emirates would be glad to sponsor it, no?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 5 2011, 11:34 AM
It obviously isn't that easy and simple. I don't think Galliani is a masochist, he just repeats himself in order to get more and more attention and make his goal possible.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 5 2011, 11:14 PM
The Giallorossi have made it clear their spending spree is not yet over, as today director of sport Walter Sabatini declared they would “sign another three or four players.”
According to Sky Sport Italia, one of those targets is Brazilian striker Nilmar and they have worked out basic personal terms.
Villarreal’s asking price is €20m, whereas so far Roma have offered €14m cash plus performance-related bonuses for the 27-year-old.
There is a lot of interest from other clubs around Europe, including Real Madrid.
It’s reported there is another problem for Roma, as in order to bring in Nilmar – a non-EU player – they must first free up a space in the squad.
Fabio Simplicio is the most likely candidate to be sold abroad.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 5 2011, 11:46 PM
Luiz Enrique wants to play with a 4-3-3 line-up, right? I wonder where Totti would fit in there.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 5 2011, 11:51 PM
He'll probably just go 4-2-3-1. Totti under Montella showed why he has to be in the side.
Posted by: Zed.D Aug 6 2011, 07:40 AM
I know. but for a club of Milan's stature, you'd think it's completely doable. who knows maybe it's Berlu blocking it. every time he's asked about a new stadium he's answered with a sentimental remark like 'oh but San Siro would be deserted, it's our history, blah blah'. of course it's a sentiment we all share, San Siro is great. but when it comes to money and competing with the best out there, seems like there's only one thing left for us to do..... and I'd do it.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 6 2011, 10:37 AM
Up until now the Dutchman had been heavily linked with a bid from Manchester United, but sources in Italy suggest their rivals over at Eastlands have swooped instead.
The front page of today’s Gazzetta declares Sneijder has already agreed a transfer to Roberto Mancini’s squad for €36m – over €20m more than Inter originally paid for the midfielder.
He is set to sign a contract worth €6m per season with the Premier League outfit.
Inter director Ernesto Paolillo did hint that something could happen this week when he said, “Sneijder is not for sale unless we receive an offer we can’t refuse.”
This could well include an option to take Carlos Tevez on loan with an option to buy at the end of the season.
His final appearance in an Inter jersey could well be today’s Italian Super Cup against Milan in Beijing, kick-off at 13.00 UK time.
http://www.football-italia.net/aug6h.html
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 6 2011, 10:44 AM
Wow, that will hurt United if this is true.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 6 2011, 12:52 PM
And that's good news for us also. Inter will be weaker and Alvarez is not at that level, at least not yet.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 6 2011, 12:58 PM
I just hope Tevez joins them also. They deserve each other.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 6 2011, 01:35 PM
Yes, so they can get even stronger.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 6 2011, 01:40 PM
What? Ironically or really?
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 6 2011, 01:50 PM
Why, you think Tevez is a bad player?
Posted by: acid911 Aug 6 2011, 01:51 PM
I'd say both.
Tevez still is a darn good player.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 6 2011, 03:02 PM
He's a nasty little thing, but also a choker and a player that sometimes plays good the other time dreadful. He has all the characteristics to fail at Inter, like many greats did before. Trust me.
Plus, his character is awful, with all that complaining and harping about his Heimweh.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 6 2011, 03:51 PM
Either way...
I'd rather Tevez NOT go to inter.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 7 2011, 12:07 PM
Hmh, Juve's mercato seems not to be over yet. Apparently they are interested in Elia of Hamburg and are offering 8 million for him.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 7 2011, 09:15 PM
Seeing talks of a Serie A (however it must be said - on lesser reliable sites)
“The previous agreement that was certified by the Italian FA (FIGC) in December 2010, was ignored by the clubs, which is an unacceptable decision.”
“Consequently, the period of deregulation continues to go on. The current situation threatens the players’ rights.”
“Italy are currently the only football nation without contractual norms for the players and it is time to solve this situation.”
“Therefore, we will not take to the pitch on the opening round without a signature on the collective bargaining contract.”
Anyone else hearing anything on this?
Maybe those based in Italy... X-off?
EDIT
Players explain Serie A strike
President of the Players’ Association Damiano Tommasi explains why Serie A could go on strike. “It’s about rights, not money.”
Today the captains of all 20 clubs signed an open letter threatening to postpone the opening weekend of the season if the Lega Serie A didn’t complete the collective bargaining contract.
“It’s not right that every time the option of a strike emerges we are met by the usual clichés about rich players,” complained AIC President Tommasi.
“We are not talking about money in this situation, but just about the rights of each player to train with his team.
“The Presidents first gave a positive response to the proposal, then refused to sign the contract.”
This issue has been dragging on for a year and mainly involves whether a club can freeze players out of the squad.
Following the controversy of those like Goran Pandev and Cristian Ledesma at Lazio, who were barred from training with their teammates during a contract dispute, this has become a tense situation.
Chievo captain Sergio Pellissier gave his reasons as to why the players were taking action.
“This is not a strike at all, but simply postponing the start of the season. It’s absurd that we are the only country in Europe without a collective bargaining contract.”
The Serie A season is due to kick off on August 27-28.
Link: http://football-italia.net/aug7t.html
Posted by: Danny Aug 7 2011, 10:21 PM
Sneijder saying he's for sale, because Inter need the money.
But he hasn't spoken to either Manchester club.
CRAZY suggestion, but could Milan take him? Or is he just too expensive?
Posted by: Dracoris Aug 7 2011, 11:21 PM
But he hasn't spoken to either Manchester club.
CRAZY suggestion, but could Milan take him? Or is he just too expensive?
Inter would double the price for us.
Posted by: Danny Aug 7 2011, 11:56 PM
If we offered them the required £35M, I have almost no doubt they would accept.
We've signed plenty players from them before, no reason we can't do so again.
Apart from the depressing fact that we can't afford him.
And, of course, he probably wouldn't want to come anyway.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 8 2011, 12:32 AM
That's exactly the reason why such a deal won't happen. You see, Inter bleeded painfully after we turned Pirlo, Seedorf, hell even Šimić into winner. While at the same time the got Helveg, Guly and Coco. They can't forget their mistakes with playing with us, so, they won't do such a thing.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 8 2011, 01:55 AM
Maybe those based in Italy... X-off?
Not anymore.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 8 2011, 04:51 AM
Ohh, touche!
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 8 2011, 06:19 PM
Yeah... hint, hint United/City, they need the money, i.e. 'I want out' and I'm making that public.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 10 2011, 03:10 AM
Yeah so along with the Sneijder rumor, apparently Anzhi are set to buy eto'o for 115M...
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 10 2011, 03:26 AM
That's 115 million by summing 80 million in 4 years for the player and 30-35 million to Inter for his rights.
Posted by: Dracoris Aug 10 2011, 03:57 AM
Eto'o still has some good years left. Not sure this is the best move for him, but 80million is a lot.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 10 2011, 05:58 AM
The rumor is that Eto'o and Gasperini are not getting along well. Seems like they are gonna replace him with Tevez.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 10 2011, 09:11 AM
I think Tevez for Eto'o would do good to us. Truth is, Eto'o wasn't efficient against us in the last couple of encounters, but I still rate him over Tevez.
Posted by: William405 Aug 10 2011, 11:22 AM
Speaking with Russian website Sports.ru, Claudio Vigorelli confirmed the expectation that the striker would be sold.
“We have practically reached an agreement with Anzhi,” Vigorelli noted. “Hopefully, the clubs will now also agree between themselves.
“Did Predrag Mijatovic represent Anzhi? Predrag is a friend of Samuel and Anzhi director German Chistyakov, therefore he was present during the negotiations.”
It is being claimed that the Russian outfit have made Inter an offer of between €30m and €40m for the Cameroon star.
It is also being suggested that the player himself will net a massive €17m a season while with Anzhi Makhachkala.
“Unfortunately, the media have been reporting false figures in relation to Samuel’s contract,” insisted Vigorelli.
“But I will repeat, we have practically agreed things with Anzhi.”
Inter confirmed yesterday, through transfer chief Marco Branca and owner Massimo Moratti, that they are considering the sale of Eto’o.
The Italian media are already speculating that the Nerazzurri will target Carlos Tevez of Manchester City once Eto’o departs.
I rate Eto'o more than Tevez,so I agree with you Fillipo.In the various times I've watched Inter last season,Eto'o has always been the one they rely on.I can even say in Serie A that they we're Eto'o dependent.In short,he was immense for them.Now,if Tevez joined,in addition to him not being the player Eto'o is,he will also have to adapt to a tough new environment,and to the new team.All in all,the deal will be great for us.
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 10 2011, 01:17 PM
good for us. 80 mill is quite a lot. its not the best move for his career. but good move for the money. he can have some fun in russia haha
Posted by: han2503 Aug 10 2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah but what is he going to spend it on over there? Ski hats, snow boots and vodka?
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 10 2011, 01:29 PM
good point.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 10 2011, 01:37 PM
He's planning to purchase Cameroon in the future and become its dictator.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 10 2011, 01:57 PM
Posted by: Zed.D Aug 10 2011, 02:47 PM
Good one
Posted by: Dracoris Aug 10 2011, 02:50 PM
Hah, then he can play on the national team until he dies.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 10 2011, 03:04 PM
Inter seems very cautious in the transfer market this summer and a year ago. Moratti is not spending like he used to in the past, even though his teams needs that as they are an old team and not much motivated after winnnig everithing under Mourinho.
Even without our creative mids we are better than Inter and if they lose Eto’o and Sneijder, I won't consider them as much more threat to us than Juve, Roma, and Napoli.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 10 2011, 04:11 PM
Moratti would be a fool to sell Sneijder and Eto'o. I really don't understand Inter at the moment. First they hire a sub-par coach, who decides to play with an unsuitable 3-4-3, and now they plan to sell their two best players? It's only 20 days till the end of the mercato, there's not much time left to rebuild the team.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 10 2011, 06:23 PM
It's all part of the plan. A cycle, if you will. Moratti has won a lot these past years, but he has spent zillions and gajillions to get there. These last few years - to be specific - after winning the treble the man is looking to consolidate and recuperate some of it. Or at the very least not go in spending like a fool, and think later.
And if it means finishing 2nd or 3rd (as in qualifying for CL every year) he'll do that for the next few.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 10 2011, 06:50 PM
Sorry, I don't get the logic in that. Why would he do that and want that? I mean, he's 1 good coach and 1-2 good/solid players away from still having a great team.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 10 2011, 07:06 PM
Truth be told, he still has a great team, a coach or player away or not. It's just that he is not ready to start another cycle as soon as ending the last one. They just can't keep up with teams like Barca, Real, Chelsea, City, United, or even some of the German teams. In Italy you need to pour in the dough to keep at the top.
No matter how many good-to-average-to-unproven players Juve, Roma, or Napoli buy there are only two absolute world class teams in Italy: And both of them are in Milan. Teams that are packed, have a couple of elite players, and better prepared for Europe. The three I mentioned above will have to be more lucky than good to ply their trade in the later stages of the CL and Europa League. They just don't have that Ibra, Eto, Lucio, or Silva in their ranks.
As for logic, well no one got it last year when after winning he could have sold Maicon to RM along with a bunch of other players and then opened the purse again. But Moratti didn't, and he probably won't be doing so this year either. And no, Tevez for Eto swap does not count. They are at the phase where we were in 2007-08.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 12 2011, 11:46 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/aug12y.html
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 13 2011, 01:46 PM
Now? Why? What an odd decision weeks before a new season.
Posted by: dst Aug 13 2011, 02:16 PM
well they're not winning are they?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 13 2011, 02:22 PM
They won a pre-season game the day of the sacking, 5-1, smart ***.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 13 2011, 02:26 PM
Because Donadoni and Cellino didn't get along recently, and with Italy's crazy owners, it's a quick way to get fired no matter at what stage you are.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 13 2011, 02:41 PM
Ah, I see.
Eto’o is expected to hold a Press conference today from his home in Cameroon to confirm his transfer to Russia, including €15m per season wages.
The Nerazzurri have been linked to both Manchester City want-away striker Tevez and Atletico Madrid’s Uruguayan international Forlan as possible replacements.
However, according to the Corriere dello Sport this morning, the plan is to bring in both players.
Inter hope to convince Manchester City that releasing Tevez on loan with an option to buy at the end of the season will be acceptable.
Forlan is on the market following a disagreement with Coach Quique Sanchez Flores and available for €10m.
In recent weeks he has reportedly turned down offers from Al Wasl, Sao Paolo, Galatasaray, Besiktas and Spartak Moscow, but Inter would be a different proposition.
Other options for the Nerazzurri include Napoli striker Ezequiel Lavezzi and Bologna outcast Gaston Ramirez.
http://www.football-italia.net/aug13i.html
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 13 2011, 03:12 PM
Forlan at Inter? Dammit, that would be as painful as watching Bergkamp play for them.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 13 2011, 04:02 PM
10m as well, bargain.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 13 2011, 05:22 PM
pfft i'd rather own half of El-Sharaawy
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 16 2011, 03:15 AM
All Serie A transfers till now: http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2011/07/all-the-serie-a-transfers-for-summer-2011/
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 16 2011, 05:14 PM
The Uruguayan international has been paired with the Nerazzurri as a possible replacement for Samuel Eto’o.
“Yes, it is true,” the South American said. “I have received an offer from Inter. To play in Milan would be a dream.”
Forlan could be signed for as little as €6m from Atletico if the latter complete a move for Porto striker Falcao.
However, Inter are not the only possibility for the former Manchester United and Villarreal centre-forward.
“My name is hot in Turkey right now,” continued the 32-year-old. “I haven’t had an offer from any Turkish sides, but that is a beautiful country and it’ll be nice to continue my career there.”
Inter, who have also been linked with Manchester City’s Carlos Tevez, are set to sell Eto’o to Russian club Anzhi for €30m.
http://www.football-italia.net/aug16l.html
As cheap as 6m euros? Jesus.
Posted by: Danny Aug 17 2011, 02:37 PM
On the subject of Forlan, I was playing Buzz and it asked for his nationality. Guess what, Uruguan wasn't even one of the multiple choice answers. I was fuming.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Aug 17 2011, 02:40 PM
What was the right answer then?
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 17 2011, 02:46 PM
Just what I was thinking as well...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 17 2011, 04:13 PM
Say what you will about about Galliani pulling off the occasional steal but moratti has pulled off a few steals as well over the years.
Posted by: Danny Aug 18 2011, 02:14 PM
Argent-bloody-inian.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2011, 07:33 PM
Five injuries worry Milan
Star striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic remains a doubt with an ankle problem which will be re-assessed at some point on Thursday.
Left-back Taye Taiwo, signed from Marseille, is definitely out after he twisted his ankle in the Trofeo Berlusconi against Juventus.
The defender will be sidelined for 30 days.
Midfielder Mark Van Bommel is suffering with a calf injury and is not expected to recover in time for the Sardinian clash.
Mathieu Flamini and Kevin Prince Boateng are also struggling physically.
Football Italia
Great. Fine as we are... bla blah blah
Posted by: han2503 Aug 22 2011, 10:22 PM
Does anyone know if bet365 will be streaming Serie A matches this season? I went to check their schedule for streaming events and there weren't any Serie A games listed for next weekend
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 22 2011, 10:25 PM
I tranfered money in the account as well but it seems they wont be showing serie a... i hope i a, wrong but they had bundes liga and french legue in the schedule so i think serie no more on bet 365
Posted by: han2503 Aug 22 2011, 10:29 PM
That's why I asked, because the matches weren't listed. But I think the Bundes liga and the Ligue 1 were always shown by bet365...
We'll see, if they did stop streaming we'd be back to looking for decent streams...
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2011, 10:30 PM
Don't you have any Maltese pay TV that shows Serie A?
Posted by: han2503 Aug 22 2011, 10:31 PM
Sure, but it's a huge rip off and not worth it since they don't have the CL rights
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 22 2011, 10:47 PM
Napoli lost 5:0 to Barca in a friendly.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 23 2011, 12:18 AM
ESPN have coverage of it here, that's why I was surprised with the whole bet365 thing.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 23 2011, 01:25 AM
I hope that brings them down on earth for a while.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2011, 02:20 PM
Well bwin will still be showing the matches...
I'll just withdraw the money from bet365 and deposit 10 on bwin, watch the games there
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 23 2011, 03:04 PM
Still makes no sense, I guess it's because it's ESPN. For example, you can buy gamepass for NFL and watch each and every regular-season game live online, however if a game is on Sky Sports, it gets blacked out on that service as they want it to be exclusive to them (at least in the UK).
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2011, 03:23 PM
Did ESPN have the Serie A rights for last season? Also who has the La Liga rights in the UK? Becuase bet365 show La Liga matches as well.
Yeah, I read that should the Serie A rights be sold in the UK then betting sites wouldn't be able to show the matches. However I was under the impression that the rights were sold before last season for a 2 year deal, so if ESPN already had the rights, then bet365 wouldn't have been showing the matches last season either.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 23 2011, 03:34 PM
Yeah, I read that should the Serie A rights be sold in the UK then betting sites wouldn't be able to show the matches. However I was under the impression that the rights were sold before last season for a 2 year deal, so if ESPN already had the rights, then bet365 wouldn't have been showing the matches last season either.
your bet365 is amazing.. I never had la liga... sky has la liga in UK and espn does not show the whole serie A but am pretty sure there coverage is the same commentators as bet.. I hope bet serie A my internet is poor now cant go back to streaming
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 23 2011, 03:47 PM
Yeah, I read that should the Serie A rights be sold in the UK then betting sites wouldn't be able to show the matches. However I was under the impression that the rights were sold before last season for a 2 year deal, so if ESPN already had the rights, then bet365 wouldn't have been showing the matches last season either.
Yep, and for the cup, that's how I watched most of the Milan games, as them like Inter are the team who are usually on live when they show the Serie A. Plus, SkySports has coverage of every Champions League game so I can watch all Milan's games on there too.
SkySports have the rights to Spanish football, I think every Madrid/Barca game is on live throughout the season, then usually 2/3 other 'big' fixtures in the league each week.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2011, 04:01 PM
SkySports have the rights to Spanish football, I think every Madrid/Barca game is on live throughout the season, then usually 2/3 other 'big' fixtures in the league each week.
Well I don't know if you guys in the UK can watch the bet365 coverage of both leagues but they are available.
So I checked the live in-play diary on bet365 and Serie A and La liga will both be covered by bet365. I usually check from the streaming schedule and Serie A games are not listed there, that's why I thought bet365 wouldn't be showing the games.
Never noticed the little button that shows the diary of all the games and which ones will be streamed live. And all the Serie A matches will be shown. Phew...
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 23 2011, 04:05 PM
That's quite complicated for you guys. Here in Albania we have this pay TV called SuperSport, they've got the exclusive rights to pretty much everything except for the Premier League, which they lost to some crappy pay TV last year. You get to watch Champions League, Europa League, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Eredivise and the Portuguese Liga in HD too. It's quite awesome when you think about it.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2011, 04:16 PM
That's very awesome. Here we have 2 service providers. 1 has the domestic league rights, the other European football rights.
So to watch everything you'd have to not only subscribe to their sports packages, which are around 20 euros per month, but have the company install their own decoders (also at a cost)
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 23 2011, 04:26 PM
is that the south african based channel??
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 23 2011, 04:30 PM
No, it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperSport_Albania
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 23 2011, 04:42 PM
It's not too bad. I mean we have terrestrial channels (5) which are as standard as they come, though we do have to have a TV license, which is an annual payment of £145 (I think, at the moment) this covers BBC, which is atrocious nowadays really, can't remember which other countries do and which don't. I'd much rather have the choice of not having it, as I rarely, rarely watch it. Perhaps for sporting occasions like Wimbledon, other than that the International tournaments and the Olympics...
Then we have our premium sports channels the most popular easily being Sky Sports, though ESPN has certainly done well. We've had a few try to break the Sky monopoly (ITV, Setanta) and both failed miserably, but ESPN offer far more than just football and I think that appeals to quite a few. It's certainly not cheap though, I mean altogether I'm probably paying £30+ a month on sports channels alone, let alone movies, HD and all that other stuff.
Posted by: Danny Aug 23 2011, 04:52 PM
I'll just withdraw the money from bet365 and deposit 10 on bwin, watch the games there
Is it full screen? I tried these betting sites years ago and I was restricted to a small window in which to view the game.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2011, 04:56 PM
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 23 2011, 05:14 PM
Eto'o to Anzhi will be official tomorrow. The clubs reached a deal, only medicals left.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 23 2011, 05:23 PM
I read he was going to be on £300k a week
Tell me that's media bs.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 23 2011, 05:26 PM
Tell me that's media bs.
He'll be receiving €60 million in 3 years. Do the math.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 23 2011, 05:43 PM
Yeah, €20m per season. Pretty mind-blowing. For that sum, you wouldn't care even if a team is from a North Pole.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2011, 06:16 PM
Nope, but it isn't that small. It's about the size of the youtube player. But the quallity is usually great, has English commentary and the stream does not lag. I put 5 euros on bet365 and have been watching free matches for years now
Well Eto'o has pretty much won all there is to win in club football, so for him it is an easy decision imo. He can retire after his contract ends and go live on an island somewhere sipping on alcahol that comes with little umbrellas in the glass
Posted by: acid911 Aug 23 2011, 06:55 PM
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 23 2011, 07:02 PM
acid is losing his touch
Posted by: acid911 Aug 23 2011, 07:19 PM
Nice eye there, Jack.
But as a matter of pure fact, the Englaish grammear and cosmopotiaion police is on holiday till the tart of the season. They will be back in full force on the day of our first official Seria A match. Han's got a free hand for a few more days, and then I'm a gonna bring down the heat on his sorry behind.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 23 2011, 11:01 PM
are you mocking the Canadian domestic league?
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 23 2011, 11:21 PM
Lucky b@stard
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2011, 11:30 PM
Naah, well,...Russia...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 24 2011, 04:37 AM
Thought it was 13 million with some insane sums for each goal or something.
Posted by: Zed.D Aug 24 2011, 09:51 AM
£50,000/day... I'm speechless!
Posted by: Danny Aug 24 2011, 11:51 AM
Let's face it, he is one of the world's best strikers, and I guess the only way such a player could be attracted to leave a high flying Italian side for a backwater Russian team would be if they paid him a disgusting amount.
It makes a mockery of the worldwide recession quite frankly.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 24 2011, 11:54 AM
He earns more than me in a day. fml.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 24 2011, 11:57 AM
It's okay. You're a British citizen living in England. You were born underprivileged. Maybe if you were born in Cameroon you would have a chance.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 24 2011, 11:58 AM
English Citizen
To be fair, he probably earns more in an hour than most English people here in a year, and that's their own fault!
Wouldn't be surprised to see more go there, I mean, I don't care what you think of the league/teams, you just would. You could literally live like kings, probably better.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 24 2011, 02:59 PM
Indeed.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 24 2011, 03:02 PM
I heard black money takes you places. 
This is one of those places, I guess.
Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Aug 24 2011, 04:32 PM
About Eto'o's move I didn't even realise until a mate of mine said, these figures are after tax 
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 24 2011, 04:41 PM
OMG!!
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Aug 25 2011, 12:28 PM
Serie A betting preview: AC Milan the Scudetto favourites with Juventus great value to finish in the top three
For the past six seasons the Scudetto crown has resided in the city of Milan, and the bookmakers don't see that changing this season, with holders AC Milan trading @ 2.10 and former champions Inter @ 2.50.
Massimiliano Allegri's Rossoneri were outsiders for the title a year ago, but ultimately finished six points clear of their city rivals. Allegri emulated Alberto Zaccheroni's 1998-99 feat of lifting the Scudetto in his debut season although he surely needs no reminding that Zac finished third the following year in what was the beginning of the end for the current coach of Japan.
Compared to 12 months ago, the title favourites haven't been as busy in the transfer market. Completing the signing of Zlatan Ibrahimovic was a shrewd move as the Swede guarantees goals and usually the league title too. The departure of Andrea Pirlo to Juventus should be offset by the expected capture of Alberto Aquilani, adding to a midfield which already has Mark van Bommel, Kevin Prince Boateng, Clarence Seedorf et al.
If Milan look a solid bet @ 2.10 the same cannot be said about Inter @ 2.50. Treble winners barely a year ago, the Nerazzurri have endured a dismal summer. There has been the departure of coach Leonardo and the arrival of Gian Piero Gasperini, for whom the jury is most certainly out.
Serie A Scudetto Odds
Milan @ 2.10
Inter @ 2.50
Juventus @ 7.0
Roma @ 12.0
Napoli @ 21.0
Fiorentina @ 67.0
Udinese @ 67.0
Lazio @ 67.0
With last season's goal machine Samuel Eto'o leaving for Anzhi Makhachkala and vultures circling for Wesley Sneijder, this could be a long season for a club used to cleaning up come May. Those Scudetto odds are likely to stretch a bit further.
Punters looking for value might want to consider Juventus (7.0), for whom another fresh start begins under Antonio Conte. After finishing seventh for the past two seasons the only way is up for the Bianconeri, and with no European football to distract them they look great value @ 2.25 to finish in the top three.
Conte's status as a club legend should help him and he will want to avoid comparisons with another Juve hero in Ciro Ferrara, whose tenure is best remembered for going up in flames after a late home defeat to Roma and subsequent cup exit at Inter in January 2010.
Moving into, and owning, their new stadium should also help, as will the additions of Pirlo, Arturo Vidal and Mirko Vucinic. It might be a bit early to say Juventus are back, but they do appear to be on their way.
Roma (12.0) will be hoping new boss Luis Enrique can sprinkle some Barcelona title dust over the Olimpico for the first time since 2001. The Spaniard coached Barcelona's B team, just like his mentor Pep Guardiola. But while Pep entered a dressing room featuring Messi and Xavi, the task facing his successor is rather different.
For starters he has to deal with Francesco Totti, who was incensed at being dropped for a recent European game, and subsequently wore a t-shirt to training saying 'enough'. New president Thomas DiBenedetto will expect a return on his investment, heaping further pressure on the rookie coach whose appointment is considered a gamble. You'll get Roma @ 2.90 to finish in the top three. Local rivals Lazio are 67.0.
Napoli were outside title contenders last season before fading with a poor run of just one win in their last six games. Boss Walter Mazzarri remains one of Serie A's more underrated coaches and has improved Napoli each season since he took over in 2009. Adding to their two league titles might be a stretch, but punters might like the look of a top three finish @ 3.50 or Edinson Cavani to be top goalscorer @ 11.0.
The odds stretch considerably afterwards with Fiorentina and Udinese trading @ 67.0, which is bit of a slap in the face for the latter, who qualified for the Champions League last season. Finishing fourth will count for considerably less as only the top three clubs in Calcio now get a crack at European football's biggest competition.
One bet that is already looking like money in the bank is Atalanta to get relegated @ 1.90. The newly promoted side begin with a six-point deduction following a betting probe and have had a turbulent summer on and off the pitch.
Serie A Top Scorer Odds
Zlatan Ibrahimovic @ 10.0
Edinson Cavani @ 11.0
Giampaolo Pazzini @ 11.0
Alex Pato @ 13.0
Antonio Di Natale @ 13.0
Away from the promotion and relegation markets there is the always popular Capocannoniere crown. Antonio Di Natale is 13.0 to make it three in a row, which hasn't been done since the 80s with Michel Platini. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is the predictable favourite @ 10.0 to add to his crown of 2008-09, with Edinson Cavani close behind him @ 11.0.
The loss of Samuel Eto'o from Inter should free up Diego Milito, who is a tasty 17.0 to reclaim his form of the treble-winning year. Punters looking for value may consider Mirko Vucinic (34.0), Parma's Hernan Crespo (67.0), Lazio new boy Djibril Cisse @ 29.0 or Antonio Cassano (51.0) to score goals wherever he ends up at.
Best Bet: Juventus to finish in top three @ 2.25 - New stadium, new boss and surely a new dawn for the Old Lady.
Value Bet: Antonio Di Natale top scorer @ 13.0 - Veteran will turn 34 in October and remains a class act. Well worth a bet to make it a hat-trick of personal crowns.
Serie A Scudetto Odds
Milan @ 2.10, Inter @ 2.50, Juventus @ 7.0, Roma @ 12.0, Napoli @ 21.0, Fiorentina @ 67.0
Udinese @ 67.0, Lazio @ 67.0, Palermo 301.0, Genoa @ 251.0, Cagliari @ 10001.0, Bologna @ 1001.0, Parma @ 1001.0, Chievo @ 1501.0, Cesena @ 1501.0, Atalanta @ 2001.0, Lecce @ 2001.0, Siena @ 2001.0, Novara @ 2001.0, Catania @ 2501.0
source: goal.com
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 25 2011, 01:15 PM
Catania last? Have they lost alot of players or something?
Juve to finish top 3 and Cavani top scorer seem good odds.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 25 2011, 04:19 PM
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/calcioestero/articoli/66849/etoo-allanzhi-per-il-progetto.shtml
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php
Posted by: Dracoris Aug 25 2011, 04:24 PM
There's lying, and then there is just plain stupid.
Posted by: William405 Aug 25 2011, 04:25 PM
Suuure.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 25 2011, 04:26 PM
I think this beats every crap I've heard in football so far. Simply pathetic.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 25 2011, 04:26 PM
You never know, man. Maybe he signed for limitless free supply водка. Read: Vodka.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 25 2011, 06:26 PM
He went for the weather.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 26 2011, 06:41 AM
Definitely the weather.
I was gonna make a joke on tanning...but I realise even though I don't mean it that way it could be construed racist.
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Aug 26 2011, 10:11 AM
Italian Foot Fed pres Abete: "An announcement that we will not play the 1st round of the season is imminent. I have taken an extra couple of hours to recontact AIC pres Tommasi and Serie A pres Beretta. By midday there will be a statement"
Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2011, 11:41 AM
Any new updates on the strike?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 26 2011, 12:06 PM
Week 1 called off – strike goes ahead
It looks like last minute talks to avert strike action have failed. Serie A will not kick off this weekend. More to follow…
Football italia
Good for our injury situation
Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2011, 12:39 PM
It looks like last minute talks to avert strike action have failed. Serie A will not kick off this weekend. More to follow…
Football italia
Good for our injury situation
Agreed. Even though I was looking forward to it, but it will give us a chance to get the players which are injured back (Flamini and Taiwo aside) and integrate Aquilani and (hopefully) any other new signings into the team before the first game and the Barca clash
Posted by: acid911 Aug 26 2011, 01:17 PM
And it will fudge us up before the Barca clashes. It's the season opener against Lazio, and then off to Barcelona we go. That's an awful little match practice for my taste. Good for injury situation, bad for the big match-up.
Posted by: William405 Aug 26 2011, 01:49 PM
Yeah,I hate it,what is it about anyway?
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2011, 01:52 PM
As much as I wanted to see some football this weekend, this break can't be anything but good for us, for all the reasons han stated.
However, I read that there exists the concrete risk that the other match days might not be played either if Lega and AIC don't reach an accord very soon.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 26 2011, 01:55 PM
Apparently people who make millions want to get more millions. And people who make billions don't want to give the other guys more money. Maybe the amount of matches, and rest days, etc also are under discussion, but these are trivial things compared to $$$. And other stuff like that.
Seriously, I hate unions and associations - unless they are free from greed and are working for betterment.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2011, 02:11 PM
And people who make billions don't want to give the other guys more money. Maybe the amount of matches, and rest days, etc also are under discussion, but these are trivial things compared to $$$. And other stuff like that.Seriously, I hate unions and associations - unless they are free from greed and are working for betterment.
It's not about money, it's about other stuff. However, I do agree that it's illogical that someone who makes a shitload of money is willing to go on a strike when there are people in this world that work their asses off every day and barely arrive at the end of the month with food. Oh well, it's an unfair world, we've always known that.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2011, 04:36 PM
Can't the clubs treathen their wages if they keep on going with this nonsense? No one is actually feeling sorry for them, and I'm with the clubs on this one
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 26 2011, 04:37 PM
What's the disagreement about exactly?
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2011, 04:45 PM
The main conflicts are over two clauses the clubs want — one that would allow them to force unwanted players to train away from the first team and another that would make players pay a new government solidarity tax that applies to high-wage earners. The players oppose such clauses, hence the strike.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 26 2011, 04:59 PM
Ah, I see.
I'm also with the clubs on this then.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 26 2011, 05:05 PM
I'm with the players, but the strike looks to only hurt Serie A more than anything... Plus now there is the headache of rescheduling the called off matches, and for a team like Milan that is competing in 3 different competitions, I don't know if that's a good thing.
Posted by: acid911 Aug 26 2011, 05:10 PM
I'm with the fans on this. Both parties are equally to blame right now, the clubs and the player associations. They had two months to clear this out, and it seems none of them budged too much. There is ALWAYS a middle way, one just had to find it. Sort out the mess, and better yet, don't even let it develop into a mess in the first place.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 26 2011, 05:12 PM
I don't see it that way. I believe you are where you are because of the decisions you make. It's not anyone else's fault. And sometimes when I say this people then come to me with the whole "what about the poor African babies..." argument and all I have to say to that is that they have irresponsible parents.
Yes the World is an unfair place. What else is new? Again, it's the decisions we make for ourselves that bring us the lifestyles we live. If soccer players want a deal the feel they are earning, then they should fight for it.
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