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Posted by: han2503 Sep 6 2010, 01:01 PM

Finally week 2 has arrived. We play Cesena who held Roma to a draw on week 1, so it will be a tricky one

Gazzetta's probable line-ups

Milan 4-3-3

Bonera--Nesta--Thiago--Antonini
Ambro--Pirlo--Seedorf
Pato--Ibra--Dinho


Cesena 4-3-3

Ceccarelli--Von Bergen--Pellegrino--Nagatomo
Appiah--Colucci--Parolo
Schelotto--Bogdani--Giaccherini

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 6 2010, 01:40 PM

Time to prove that week 1 spectacle wasn't a fluke.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Sep 6 2010, 02:04 PM

Gazzetta's line up is quite good, I'd make only one change. Flamini (if is fit) instead of Seedorf.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 6 2010, 05:02 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 6 2010, 03:04 PM) *
Gazzetta's line up is quite good, I'd make only one change. Flamini (if is fit) instead of Seedorf.


Flamini is still injured so he won't travel to Cesena, unless he recovers in extremis (source: Studio Sport).

I'd go with that line-up as well.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 7 2010, 04:54 AM

Is Zambrotta injured?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 7 2010, 08:43 AM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 7 2010, 04:54 AM) *
Is Zambrotta injured?

Probably


Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 7 2010, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 7 2010, 06:54 AM) *
Is Zambrotta injured?

I have read on milannews.it few days ago that he's o.k now and hoping to play against Cesena.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 7 2010, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 7 2010, 12:50 PM) *
I have read on milannews.it few days ago that he's o.k now and hoping to play against Cesena.

In that case I'd put him over Bonera, we don't really need a defensive FB against Cesena

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 7 2010, 03:41 PM

I'm so glad this is on Saturday, I have so much to do on Sunday its not even funny. I can't wait for this game, so excited.

Posted by: pacang Sep 7 2010, 05:04 PM

robinho's on the bench?

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 7 2010, 05:14 PM

QUOTE (pacang @ Sep 7 2010, 06:04 PM) *
robinho's on the bench?


I think so.

Posted by: pacang Sep 7 2010, 05:17 PM

great.. than there's chance he'll be playing.. nice!

Posted by: CHU-LIP Sep 7 2010, 09:02 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2010, 02:24 PM) *
In that case I'd put him over Bonera, we don't really need a defensive FB against Cesena

So Zambrotta is an attacking FB?

Bonera has been playing good as RB, so it makes sense to play him again as RB. I don't see why he should be benched for someone who just came back from an injury (if he can play).

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 7 2010, 09:09 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 7 2010, 10:02 PM) *
So Zambrotta is an attacking FB?

Bonera has been playing good as RB, so it makes sense to play him again as RB. I don't see why he should be benched for someone who just came back from an injury (if he can play).


+1

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 7 2010, 09:26 PM

Seedorf might miss the game against Cesena as he's been training apart these last few days due to some minor injury. Allegri should be playing instead of him one between Gattuso and Boateng.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idtmw=228273

Not really liking the pace of injuries so far. The season has barely started and we've already got Zambro, Flamini and Seedorf out. unsure.gif

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 7 2010, 09:39 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 7 2010, 04:26 PM) *
Seedorf might miss the game against Cesena as he's been training apart these last few days due to some minor injury. Allegri should be playing instead of him one between Gattuso and Boateng.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idtmw=228273

Not really liking the pace of injuries so far. The season has barely started and we've already got Zambro, Flamini and Seedorf out. unsure.gif


At least its all minor knocks and nothing too serious yet. We'll see how long that lasts.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 7 2010, 09:41 PM

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 7 2010, 10:39 PM) *
At least its all minor knocks and nothing too serious yet. We'll see how long that lasts.


Well, Seedorf should recover for Auxerre, but Zambro and Flamini have been out for quite a while now.

Posted by: Danny Sep 7 2010, 11:22 PM

For viewers in the UK with any provider who carry ESPN, ESPN will be on air free of charge this weekend including HD meaning this match will be live for all Sky, Virgin Media etc customers whether subscribed to ESPN or not.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 8 2010, 09:11 AM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 7 2010, 08:02 PM) *
So Zambrotta is an attacking FB?

Bonera has been playing good as RB, so it makes sense to play him again as RB. I don't see why he should be benched for someone who just came back from an injury (if he can play).

Zambrotta is clearly not the player he used to be, but he's still a natural FB, which means he knows how to make over lapping runs and cross, while Bonera usually gets stuck when he passes the half way line.

And if Zambro's fit to play, I'd pick him over Bonera any day of the week, because he's a lot better then Bonera.

Bonera gives us defensive stability (Zambro is just as good on the defensive front) but he offers nothing going forward. Pato has no outlet with him there, while Zambrotta would provide more support.

Posted by: Lumeci Sep 8 2010, 10:24 AM

when will the training with full squad begin after the international break, and where is ronaldinho did he only trained in gym or what?

Posted by: CHU-LIP Sep 8 2010, 11:08 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2010, 09:11 AM) *
Zambrotta is clearly not the player he used to be, but he's still a natural FB, which means he knows how to make over lapping runs and cross, while Bonera usually gets stuck when he passes the half way line.

And if Zambro's fit to play, I'd pick him over Bonera any day of the week, because he's a lot better then Bonera.

Bonera gives us defensive stability (Zambro is just as good on the defensive front) but he offers nothing going forward. Pato has no outlet with him there, while Zambrotta would provide more support.

Zambrotta used to be a much better fullback than Bonera, but the difference between the two isn't really that big nowadays. Both don't add much going forward, but it's not true Bonera adds nothing in that, just like Zambrotta not much. We already play with a leftback that adds a lot in attacking, but defensively Antonini isn't the best fullback. And since we don't got another fullback that can defend and attack well, most important is that the rightback can defend. We also play with three forwards, they can support eachother also. The formation is attacking.

Bonera played good last match and in pre-season as rightback, also his passing was good. I don't buy it he adds completely nothing attacking and that he gets usually stuck when he passes the half way line. I can't say Zambrotta has impressed me obvious more as rightback than Bonera nowadays. Bonera is doing a good job as rightback at the moment. I think he deserves a fair chance, surely since Zambrotta is still recovering or has just recovered from his injury. Let's bring Zambrotta slowly with subs, as long both Antonini and Bonera can play and play well.

Posted by: Kourosh Sep 8 2010, 02:00 PM

Looks like Robinho will stay on the bench in this match. Logical choice, I say.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 8 2010, 02:17 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 8 2010, 11:08 AM) *
Zambrotta used to be a much better fullback than Bonera, but the difference between the two isn't really that big nowadays. Both don't add much going forward, but it's not true Bonera adds nothing in that, just like Zambrotta not much. We already play with a leftback that adds a lot in attacking, but defensively Antonini isn't the best fullback. And since we don't got another fullback that can defend and attack well, most important is that the rightback can defend. We also play with three forwards, they can support eachother also. The formation is attacking.

Bonera played good last match and in pre-season as rightback, also his passing was good. I don't buy it he adds completely nothing attacking and that he gets usually stuck when he passes the half way line. I can't say Zambrotta has impressed me obvious more as rightback than Bonera nowadays. Bonera is doing a good job as rightback at the moment. I think he deserves a fair chance, surely since Zambrotta is still recovering or has just recovered from his injury. Let's bring Zambrotta slowly with subs, as long both Antonini and Bonera can play and play well.

Zambrotta has barely played any matches since preseason started. So obviously Bonera has had a lot of time to play there. Yes Zambrotta's attacking game has gone downhill, but the fact that it's his natural position gives him the advantage as he's more comfortable playing there. He knows how to make the overlapping runs, something Bonera doesn't do, is a better crosser of the ball, and defensively, both are on par. That's why I'd choose Zambro.

Look at Bonera's Lecce game, yes he didn't put a foot wrong, but do I think we could have pushed a lot more on that right side had we had a FB playing there instead of a CB? YES!

The attacking LB/ defensive RB argument isn't really all that strong. Yes it makes sense, but most top clubs have attacking FBs on both sides of the pitch ex. Barca (Abidal/Adriano & Alves), Chelsea (Cole & Bosingwa), etc. Antonini isn't as defensively weak as you make him out to be. Last season he wasn't just one of our best players simply because of the runs he makes.

I agree that easing him in might be a better idea because of his injury and because there is Bonera there is no rush to put him in the starting 11. But I personally want him to be our starting RB this season, not Bonera.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Sep 8 2010, 02:39 PM

Put Zambrotta on RB and we still don't got two attacking FBs on two sides. That natural position thing is not important and not even true. Zambrotta isn't a natural FB, he used to be a wide midfielder or so. How many players are awesome at a position that isn't their natural's? It matters how good you play on a position, not for how long or so. I'm not sure Zambrotta is still a better crosser than Bonera, I can't remember too many good crosses from Zambrotta last season.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 8 2010, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 8 2010, 02:39 PM) *
Put Zambrotta on RB and we still don't got two attacking FBs on two sides. That natural position thing is not important and not even true. Zambrotta isn't a natural FB, he used to be a wide midfielder or so. How many players are awesome at a position that isn't their natural's? It matters how good you play on a position, not for how long or so. I'm not sure Zambrotta is still a better crosser than Bonera, I can't remember too many good crosses from Zambrotta last season.

It's not about the attacking fullback, it't about having options on the right, if Pirlo wants to put a ball through that side, Zambro knows how to make that run, if Pato needs more support Zambro can make overlapping runs to help him. And Bonera's crossing is just non-existant, he crossed like 2 balls against Lecce, both were flat and didn't go anywhere. Zambrotta is obviously the better one at it.

Zambrotta started out on the wing, but most players don't start out in the position they make their name playing in. Lippi move him to LB/RB and that's History, he became on of the best FB during his time. Bonera is a decent RB against so and so opposition always has been, his best position, given some continuaty in it, is at CB, no compeition. His 06/07 season with Milan was great and that was while playing at CB. Not at RB. He only played there on occasion, then he got sent off vs Juve and he never played there again, until this season because Zambro's been injured and Oddo's barely a player anymore.

Posted by: abanovac Sep 8 2010, 03:05 PM

i think they meant binho and not dinho.
why the hell would they play ronnie ahead of robinho

Posted by: han2503 Sep 8 2010, 03:07 PM

QUOTE (abanovac @ Sep 8 2010, 03:05 PM) *
i think they meant binho and not dinho.
why the hell would they play ronnie ahead of robinho

unsure.gif unsure.gif

Because Ronnie has been in great form and is our only playmaker in the attack, while Robinho and Pato offer similar outcomes...

Robinho will be rotated with all 3. We have a monster schedule coming up. Don't worry he'll get a lot of minutes

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 9 2010, 01:15 AM

I'd play this:


------Abbiati---

Bonera-Nesta-Silva-Antonini

--Gattuso-Pirlo-Ambrosini

-Pato----Ibra---Dinho



I'd swap gattuso with seedorf if he's fit. IMO we need to keep the line up as constitent as possible because we have a champions league match mid week. No use throwing someone like Zamb/flamini in there when they haven't played in a few weeks and will take 1 or 2 matches to get adjusted.

Posted by: abanovac Sep 9 2010, 07:17 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 9 2010, 12:07 AM) *
unsure.gif unsure.gif

Because Ronnie has been in great form and is our only playmaker in the attack, while Robinho and Pato offer similar outcomes...

Robinho will be rotated with all 3. We have a monster schedule coming up. Don't worry he'll get a lot of minutes


yeah i hope so smile.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 9 2010, 12:53 PM

On Sportmediaset you can check the probable line-ups of every game, constantly being updated. Regarding our game, it looks like Nesta had a minor injury and should probably skip the trip altogether for precaution. Seedorf isn't feeling well either, so he should start from the bench.

We should probably play like this: Abbiati, Sokratis, T. Silva, Bonera, Antonini; Pirlo, Boateng, Ambrosini; Ronaldinho, Pato, Ibrahimovic.

I really don't think Allegri will field all of the "Fantastic 4" at once, that would be too much risky.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 9 2010, 01:15 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2010, 11:53 AM) *
On Sportmediaset you can check the probable line-ups of every game, constantly being updated. Regarding our game, it looks like Nesta had a minor injury and should probably skip the trip altogether for precaution. Seedorf isn't feeling well either, so he should start from the bench.

We should probably play like this: Abbiati, Sokratis, T. Silva, Bonera, Antonini; Pirlo, Boateng, Ambrosini; Ronaldinho, Pato, Ibrahimovic.

I really don't think Allegri will field all of the "Fantastic 4" at once, that would be too much risky.

Especially without Nesta...

Seems we're having a lot of trouble with niggling injuries. As long as non of them are long term then we shouldn't have that much of a problem

Posted by: CHU-LIP Sep 9 2010, 04:19 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 9 2010, 12:53 PM) *
On Sportmediaset you can check the probable line-ups of every game, constantly being updated. Regarding our game, it looks like Nesta had a minor injury and should probably skip the trip altogether for precaution. Seedorf isn't feeling well either, so he should start from the bench.

We should probably play like this: Abbiati, Sokratis, T. Silva, Bonera, Antonini; Pirlo, Boateng, Ambrosini; Ronaldinho, Pato, Ibrahimovic.

I really don't think Allegri will field all of the "Fantastic 4" at once, that would be too much risky.

I hope you mean Antonini LB, T.Silva LCB, Sokratis RCB, Bonera RB.

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 9 2010, 09:31 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2010, 09:19 AM) *
I hope you mean Antonini LB, T.Silva LCB, Sokratis RCB, Bonera RB.
+1

Posted by: CHU-LIP Sep 9 2010, 10:15 PM

It seems to be predicted we will play with that line-up with Sokratis and Silva in the middle. I like the line-up. Nice to see Boateng starting, and I hope Ambrosini won't play the whole match. Both Gattuso and Strasser are there to sub in for him, since Flamini is still out if I'm correct.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 9 2010, 10:15 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Sep 9 2010, 05:19 PM) *
I hope you mean Antonini LB, T.Silva LCB, Sokratis RCB, Bonera RB.


Yup. smile.gif

Posted by: abanovac Sep 10 2010, 11:25 AM

Alessandro Nesta, Clarence Seedorf & Mathieu Flamini Out Of Milan's Trip To Cesena. goal.com official.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 10 2010, 12:34 PM

Various websites report that Gattuso should be playing instead of Seedorf. Not fair, we want Boateng! mad.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 10 2010, 01:22 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 10 2010, 12:34 PM) *
Various websites report that Gattuso should be playing instead of Seedorf. Not fair, we want Boateng! mad.gif

Yep...

Maybe Boateng isn't ready to start yet... Rino wasn't as bad as he's been these past few seasons against Lecce. And I think he'll be fine against Cesena. Obviously Boateng would give us a lot more options...

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 10 2010, 01:59 PM

Allegri: 'All four could play'

Milan boss Max Allegri says he could play all four of his high profile attackers against Cesena this weekend.

There is a great desire to see Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Alexandre Pato and Ronaldinho play at the same time.

“Hopefully during the game there will be the chance to play all four, but we need time,” Allegri said.

“They have only just arrived and the team has worked for two months finding its balance, so we now need time to find it again.

“Ibrahimovic is fine and he'll play from the first minute. Cesena run a lot, concede little and can spread fear on the counterattack.

“Games are never won before you play them. I said that last year with Cagliari when we played against the big teams and I say it now that I coach Milan and we play the small teams.”

http://www.football-italia.net/sep10l.html

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 10 2010, 02:02 PM

sounds good if we're 2 goals up by 70th minute, otherwise he'd be getting carried away. in any case, i think this game will be tighter than first game and it seems he knows it so FORZA ALLEGRI. FORZA MILAN! devil.gif

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 10 2010, 03:29 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2010, 10:22 PM) *
Yep...

Maybe Boateng isn't ready to start yet... Rino wasn't as bad as he's been these past few seasons against Lecce. And I think he'll be fine against Cesena. Obviously Boateng would give us a lot more options...


I dunno about Gattuso,Cesena's pacey counters might give him some issues.

Boateng is perfect for this game,i hope he starts.

I reckon Zambro could start ahead of Bonera so he can get some match practice for the midweek CL clash,he'll probably only get 60mins more or less.


Posted by: d'Arc.LP Sep 10 2010, 03:33 PM

Argggg :@

Nesta is injured again...

That's why I want Mexes so badly.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 10 2010, 03:56 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 10 2010, 04:33 PM) *
Argggg :@

Nesta is injured again...

That's why I want Mexes so badly.


He's not injured, it's just a precaution for the CL game. And besides, we have Papa.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Sep 10 2010, 03:56 PM

Have trust in Papastathopoulos...

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 10 2010, 05:11 PM

I have a big trust in him. I think he's a formidable back up. Much more so than Mexes.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 10 2010, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 10 2010, 06:11 PM) *
I have a big trust in him. I think he's a formidable back up. Much more so than Mexes.


+1

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 10 2010, 06:57 PM

Cesena 0-5 Milan is my prediction.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 10 2010, 07:20 PM

^ I hope. My prediction is 2-0 for us.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 10 2010, 07:36 PM

1-3. I'm not entirely sold on us defensively, so can't see us keeping straight clean sheets.

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 10 2010, 08:00 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 10 2010, 02:36 PM) *
1-3. I'm not entirely sold on us defensively, so can't see us keeping straight clean sheets.


+1

Posted by: han2503 Sep 10 2010, 08:26 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 10 2010, 06:36 PM) *
1-3. I'm not entirely sold on us defensively, so can't see us keeping straight clean sheets.

Well in pre-season our strong point was the defence, even though we couldn't score a goal to save our life most of the time...

Also Sokratis is not Nesta but he's a major step up from what we had in the past.

Plus Cesena have some terrible strikers. They are pacy especially their wingers but not great finishers, so we might get caught on the break but we'll get a few get out of jail free cards as well wink.gif

I like how Allegri approaches things, also he never said they would play all 4 together, just that if we're in a comfortable enough position he might give all four the chance to see what they can do, no harm in that as long as the team's shape and balance is maintained ie. Pirlo coming off for Robinho

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 11 2010, 12:39 AM

3-0


2x pato and Ibra

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Sep 11 2010, 05:44 AM

Milan Training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m1fPSic3qQ

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 06:08 AM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Sep 11 2010, 02:44 PM) *
Milan Training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m1fPSic3qQ


more training

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03fwtvuQ8VM

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 11 2010, 01:15 PM

i'm getting very excited for this game biggrin.gif

FORZA MILAN wub.gif

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Sep 11 2010, 02:04 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 11 2010, 08:15 AM) *
i'm getting very excited for this game biggrin.gif

FORZA MILAN wub.gif

As am I +1 laugh.gif

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 02:31 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2010, 08:26 PM) *
Well in pre-season our strong point was the defence, even though we couldn't score a goal to save our life most of the time...

Also Sokratis is not Nesta but he's a major step up from what we had in the past.

I watched Sokratis in a national squad vs Croatia live and he was apsolutelly the best man on the field , he is super strong playing as CD, he played a great match and i think he is a good backup for nesta especially considering what we had last season as a backup (and as starters much of the time) so he is also a great signing i think, he is really really good.

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 11 2010, 02:51 PM

Milan 3 - 0 Other Serie B team that wont stay in Serie A for too long

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 06:19 PM

Just watching Barca go 2-0 down to Hercules at Camp Nou.

Makes me hope we won't be as complacent tonight.

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 11 2010, 06:27 PM

no worries ibra is brilliant wink.gif

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 06:47 PM

Seriously hope Robinho starts.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 12 2010, 03:47 AM) *
Seriously hope Robinho starts.


Instead of who?

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:05 PM

Robinho's job is to provide cover for all three of the RIP guys. smile.gif He will be the first choice anytime we need to take off Ronaldinho, or even Pato and Ibra - in essence, not too much of a step down in quality from the one's who are starting. And as such should see more than adequate playing time all through the season.

For this reason alone he should start from the bench, and come on in at the 45 or 60 minute mark.

Posted by: vahid Sep 11 2010, 07:10 PM

MILANO - Queste le formazioni ufficiali di Cesena-Milan, in campo al 'Manuzzi' alle 20.45:

CESENA: Antonioli; Ceccarelli, Pellegrino, Von Bergen, Nagatomo; Appiah, Colucci, Parolo; Schelotto, Bogdani, Giaccherini.


MILAN: Abbiati; Bonera, Sokratis, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Pato, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho.

Gattuso rolleyes.gif

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:16 PM

QUOTE (vahid @ Sep 11 2010, 11:10 PM) *
Gattuso

Unsurprising, don't you think?! huh.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: chrismcb Sep 11 2010, 07:21 PM

Does anybody know a site with live streaming of the game?

Posted by: vahid Sep 11 2010, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 11 2010, 07:16 PM) *
Unsurprising, don't you think?! huh.gif biggrin.gif


I still had hope too see Boateng on the pitch dry.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (vahid @ Sep 11 2010, 06:10 PM) *
MILANO - Queste le formazioni ufficiali di Cesena-Milan, in campo al 'Manuzzi' alle 20.45:

CESENA: Antonioli; Ceccarelli, Pellegrino, Von Bergen, Nagatomo; Appiah, Colucci, Parolo; Schelotto, Bogdani, Giaccherini.


MILAN: Abbiati; Bonera, Sokratis, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Pato, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho.

Gattuso rolleyes.gif

Good lineup imo.

I don't think Boateng is ready to start a game yet. Not a fan of the Rino and Ambro combo in the midfield but hopefully they will both cover Pirlo 100% so he can form part of the attack

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 11 2010, 06:57 PM) *
Instead of who?


No one. I'd have all 4 of them smile.gif

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (vahid @ Sep 11 2010, 11:21 PM) *
I still had hope too see Boateng on the pitch

In my opinion, let's take things slow and steady. innocent.gif 50+ potential matches remain, and it would make sense putting in Boateng off the bench for the first month or two. Just so the guy integrates and develops into the team at his own pace.

I'd have liked to see him too, but then again, I also want world peace. KPB will get plenty of chances to showcase himself.

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 07:27 PM

I'll give Rino the benefit of the doubt, he played well last week. I would have preferred Boateng though.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2010, 06:26 PM) *
No one. I'd have all 4 of them smile.gif

All 4 of them would throw the team's balance off. The most logical thing to do is to rotate them, and I'm pretty sure that's what Allegri intends to do unless Silvio forces his hand

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 11 2010, 06:26 PM) *
In my opinion, let's take things slow and steady. innocent.gif 50+ potential matches remain, and it would make sense putting in Boateng off the bench for the first month or two. Just so the guy integrates and develops into the team at his own pace.

I'd have liked to see him too, but then again, I also want world peace. KPB will get plenty of chances to showcase himself.

What are you, some beauty queen contestant?

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 07:36 PM

QUOTE (chrismcb @ Sep 12 2010, 04:21 AM) *
Does anybody know a site with live streaming of the game?


http://www.espa.tv/embed.php?channel=no1fan&width=780&height=560

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 12 2010, 04:27 AM) *
I'll give Rino the benefit of the doubt, he played well last week. I would have preferred Boateng though.



I'm worried about his speed

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 07:41 PM

QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 11 2010, 02:36 PM) *
I'm worried about his speed


Valid worry

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:44 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 11:29 PM) *
What are you, some beauty queen contestant?

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif We still have a score to settle after all the geammar and splling mistakes you have been littereng the forum with. dry.gif I'll hold of answering this above question till after that. tongue.gif Cleer?

PS. Almost there guys, a few minute till kick off.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 07:45 PM

is anybody else getting blue screen at bet365???

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 11 2010, 11:45 PM) *
is anybody else getting blue screen at bet365???

Yeah, it says "Live Event Will Be Starting Shortly". smile.gif Nothing new here, seeing that Bet365 streams are a 2-3 minutes behind. Normal service should kick off in a couple minutes time.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 07:49 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 11 2010, 06:48 PM) *
Yeah, it says "Live Event Will Be Starting Shortly". smile.gif Nothing new here, seeing that Bet365 streams are a 2-3 minutes behind. Normal service should kick off in a couple minutes time.

the match has started on the bet365 but no vdo this is new yaar

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 07:49 PM

espn3.com has the game on with no announcers and dramatic camera angles and the crowd mic-ed up. Its reallllly awesome. Hi-Def too.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 07:50 PM

wow the camera angle is so bad!!!!!

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:50 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 11 2010, 11:49 PM) *
the match has started on the bet365 but no vdo this is new yaar

It's on dude. king.gif The video started 3 minutes into proceedings. Watch it now!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 07:52 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 11 2010, 06:50 PM) *
It's on dude. king.gif The video started 3 minutes into proceedings. Watch it now!

yea it is working cheers

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 07:52 PM

Ahh ESPN UK have messed up and not showing it at the moment due to 'technical difficulties'...

Probably because they are allowing people to watch it for free this weekend....

Posted by: samira Sep 11 2010, 07:52 PM

19 yrs wow, and draw against Roma!
Robinho aint playing

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 07:53 PM

dinho almost

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 07:54 PM

Ronaldinho with good air borne shot, equally good save! smile.gif Good pace to the match early on.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 07:55 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 11 2010, 07:54 PM) *
Ronaldinho with good air borne shot, equally good save! smile.gif Good pace to the match early on.

How are we doing?! All I'm getting is to watch highlights of Major League Boredom, nice one ESPN UK mad.gif

Edit: Oh, finally.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:02 PM

We are not so good so far like we were against lecce, hope we will start playing better!

Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2010, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 11 2010, 11:55 PM) *
How are we doing?! All I'm getting is to watch highlights of Major League Boredom, nice one ESPN UK

The team is showing the right intent and pace. biggrin.gif And there have been two or three pretty good moments. Cesena, too are solid and doing what they should. So no start like Lecce, but I'm liking what I'm seeing right now!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:07 PM

A lot of miscomunication in defense...

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:13 PM

wow we hit the net two times and still 0:0 biggrin.gif

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:16 PM

yellow 4 ambro

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:17 PM

Here we go...

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:17 PM

Goal Cesena sleep.gif

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:17 PM

oh god 1:0 4 cesena

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:18 PM

Diver.

Goal would'nt have happened if Cesena didn't cheat to give Ambro the yellow.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 08:18 PM

and we concede great

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:18 PM

O M G

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:19 PM

We need to wake up, the loose passing in midfield is killung us

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:20 PM

clear penalty on antonini!

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:20 PM

So it seems like we have a defence (arguably) and we have an attack in this game, where's the midfield?!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:21 PM

QUOTE
Goal would'nt have happened if Cesena didn't cheat to give Ambro the yellow.

We wouldn't conceed if Sokratis would know how to mark his man and the fullbacks would actually cover some space in defensive formation. Poor defensive effort so far.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:21 PM

New midfield please


Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:23 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 11 2010, 09:20 PM) *
So it seems like we have a defence (arguably) and we have an attack in this game, where's the midfield?!

Really? That goal we conceeded goes on all defensive players except Thiago.

Yes, Gattuso has to be taken off.

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 11 2010, 08:23 PM

whats with the high balls!? dry.gif

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:25 PM

Same old story no connection between midfield and attack.

Ibra should not be dropping so deep to do midfield work.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:25 PM

PATO dropping back to do midfield work as well

Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 11 2010, 08:26 PM

allegri has some thinking to do certainly perhaps introduce boateng

our attack is on form just midfield

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:26 PM

Wow, against better attackers that's 2-0.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:26 PM

Ibra-Gattuso-Ibra-Gattuso -- lost ball. Same combination a few times, same result.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 07:23 PM) *
Really? That goal we conceeded goes on all defensive players except Thiago.

Yes, Gattuso has to be taken off.

Totally agree!

A word about ibra: he is playing really good, he is playing very well with roni and pato but nothing from those actions so far, i hope we will score before the halftime!

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:28 PM

Gattuso has to go. He's playing so high and he doesn't have the speed to get back. Nor does he have the technical ability to play so high.

We also need to put the ball at Roni's feet a little more. Pirlo playing well.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 08:23 PM) *
Really? That goal we conceeded goes on all defensive players except Thiago.

Yes, Gattuso has to be taken off.

The point I was making was there is no midfield, it's either defend or attack.

I agree about Gattuso and even Ambrosini they are doing absolutely nothing but chasing shadows.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:29 PM

We are only playing on the right side. Dinho is stranded on the left

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:29 PM

Playing Bonera and Gattuso on the right together is deadly. They both deliver the ball poorly and have a bad cross. We have to change.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2010, 05:19 AM) *
We need to wake up, the loose passing in midfield is killung us

+1

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 12 2010, 05:29 AM) *
Playing Bonera and Gattuso on the right together is deadly. They both deliver the ball poorly and have a bad cross. We have to change.


and they are both slow

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:30 PM

Oh dear.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:30 PM

2:0 OMG

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

MILANS DEFENSE IS A JOKE

Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

were losing 2-0

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

2-0 Killing us on the counter

Posted by: Coldest Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

Binho instead of Pato please...

Posted by: Warchant Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

really....

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

wowo 2-0 to cesena

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 11 2010, 08:31 PM

deja vu *sigh

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:32 PM

..only this time Thiago also looked poor. My god, we have to take out either Sokratis or Bonera as well.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:32 PM

ur kidding

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 11 2010, 08:32 PM

wow what a bad first half

P.S at least roma's losing aswell but we can still make a comback !!!

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:33 PM

QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 11 2010, 07:31 PM) *
Binho instead of Pato please...

??????????
You really think this is the bigest problem we have tonight? Really?

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:33 PM

Bring on Boateng and take off Gattuso at least give us a midfield that has the potential to run.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:33 PM

Bonera is a big problem on that right. Sokratis and Thiago have no understanding between eachother

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 08:34 PM

OMG.

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:35 PM

Boateng for Gattuso and this game take a huge turn. Gattuso shouldn't have started. Hindsight is 20:20 though.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 08:36 PM

HT 2-0 cesena


Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:36 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 11 2010, 06:19 PM) *
Just watching Barca go 2-0 down to Hercules at Camp Nou.

Makes me hope we won't be as complacent tonight.

*sigh*

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:36 PM

wow such a bad first half, i think gatuso is a bigest problem and maybe KPB should enter the game and even Seedorf for Ambro (if he is fit!?)! We need to score fast in the second half if we want to win the match , We had just 3 shots on goal , this is no good, but i think we can still win with some crazy performance in the second half!

Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 11 2010, 08:37 PM

guys im in 200 percent disbelief i cant believe whats hit us


Posted by: William405 Sep 11 2010, 08:37 PM

We sucked,but horrible refereeing.Didn't count pato's goal,and a yellow card for a clean tackle.Why is gattuso attacking!and pirlo being more defensive,wow!We need to play the same way we played against Lecce.When I saw the first goal,I went like "Dida could have saved that" :V

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 08:37 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 11 2010, 07:33 PM) *
Bring on Boateng and take off Gattuso at least give us a midfield that has the potential to run.

+1

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 08:37 PM

What a contrast to last week. All the coherence and smoothness and smart linkup play from Lecce is gone and it looks like Leo's Milan.

Disjointed, poor touches, no understanding and bog all chances created up front. Ibra's being too smart for his own good as I feared he might try, Pato's worked hard and had small joy but overall not been able to influence, and Dinho's barely been in it.

Bring on Robinho for a spark up front which is badly lacking.

Posted by: armiss Sep 11 2010, 08:38 PM

Really GOOD , after two weeks of empty words we need this !

Posted by: anano1214 Sep 11 2010, 08:39 PM

hope milan will score minimum 2 goals

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2010, 03:37 PM) *
What a contrast to last week. All the coherence and smoothness and smart linkup play from Lecce is gone and it looks like Leo's Milan.

Disjointed, poor touches, no understanding and bog all chances created up front. Ibra's being too smart for his own good as I feared he might try, Pato's worked hard and had small joy but overall not been able to influence, and Dinho's barely been in it.

Bring on Robinho for a spark up front which is badly lacking.



Haha, when I was reading your post I was betting myself you'd say we need to bring in Robinho.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (armiss @ Sep 12 2010, 05:38 AM) *
Really GOOD , after two weeks of empty words we need this !


+1

Posted by: anano1214 Sep 11 2010, 08:40 PM

i want win sad.gif(( what the hell happend to them mad.gif

Posted by: Coldest Sep 11 2010, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2010, 07:37 PM) *
What a contrast to last week. All the coherence and smoothness and smart linkup play from Lecce is gone and it looks like Leo's Milan.

Disjointed, poor touches, no understanding and bog all chances created up front. Ibra's being too smart for his own good as I feared he might try, Pato's worked hard and had small joy but overall not been able to influence, and Dinho's barely been in it.

Bring on Robinho for a spark up front which is badly lacking.


Cause we've been playing through the other flank for a whole half...

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 11 2010, 08:39 PM) *
Haha, when I was reading your post I was betting myself you'd say we need to bring in Robinho.


I'm a big fan of his and we look devoid up front.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:42 PM

The hype has oobviously gotten to everyone's heads. I think this could be the bucket of cold water they need. The defense is horrible out of touch with eachother. The midfield is disjointed, Rino running into the box while Pirlo is defending, Ambro is non-existent, same for Dinho since we're basing all of our forward movement on the right for some strange reason. Ibra is working a lot, but as someone said above trying to be too smart when there is a simpler option, Pato needs to pass the ball instead of shoot it when there is a better option.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:43 PM

I think we're over doing our attack.

pretty sure Gattuso and Ambro have spent more time on the edge of their six yard box than covering the counters.

Bonera is overlapping on the wing as well LOL who's on the right side?

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 11 2010, 08:40 PM) *
Cause we've been playing through the other flank for a whole half...


And when he's had the ball he's not used it like we know he can.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2010, 07:42 PM) *
I'm a big fan of his and we look devoid up front.

We're already unbalanced enough as it is, adding Robinho to the equation won't help, plus Cesena are playing so tight he would struggle to make his runs

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:44 PM

Im thinking Boateng on now for Gattuso, and then at 60-70' bring in Robinho (if still down) for Bonera/Ambro/Pirlo and trying to draw it out.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:44 PM

Like han said, Thiago and Sokratis have no understanding, no link, which makes their runs erratic and unpredictable.

Bonera and Gattuso should go off. They both should really be treated as bench players. When will we ever learn?

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 08:44 PM

Gattuso for Boateng should at least shake things up.

If we're still losing by the 60 minute mark, bring in Robbers for Pato or Ibra.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:46 PM

This game also shows how Lecce had a poor tactic. Cesena on the other hand plays like most of the Serie A teams will against us - and the result is - two goals down, 7 or 8 corners, 1 shot on target. I'd say every department carries his own fault. Very bad display.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:46 PM

I don't think our attacking is the problem, it's the lack of grasp of the midfield.

Bringing on Robinho, I don't know how will help us, I'd rather Boateng someone physically stronger who can get into them and will give us 100% effort, not another flashy trickster player.

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2010, 03:43 PM) *
And when he's had the ball he's not used it like we know he can.


Actually, we've had 3 shots on goal. He's taken part in two of em, and the third was an accident. I would say he just needs to get the ball more.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 11 2010, 07:43 PM) *
I think we're over doing our attack.

pretty sure Gattuso and Ambro have spent more time on the edge of their six yard box than covering the counters.

Bonera is overlapping on the wing as well LOL who's on the right side?

Basicaly no one, we got killed on the counter twice with no one covering the right side, one of them resulted in a goal. I still don't understand why the DMs are going so far up, they need to cover the FBs not get into the opposition's box, thus creating more conjestion and creating dangerous situations when the 2 CBs are the only ones left when we're caught on the counter

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 07:44 PM) *
Like han said, Thiago and Sokratis have no understanding, no link, which makes their runs erratic and unpredictable.

Bonera and Gattuso should go off. They both should really be treated as bench players. When will we ever learn?

According to most here Bonera should be the one playig at RB, because he is stronger defensively.... Be that as it may he is struggling out there on the right for a reason, he's no FB, never was never will be. A better team would have ripped him apart even worse then Cesena are

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:48 PM

DON'T WORRY !

Real Madrid lost to Alcorcon 4-0

As long as we're not that terrible,should be ok.

sad.gif

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 08:49 PM

Han is exactly right. If Bonera's up there, Gattuso's not supposed to be. Cover, cover, cover!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 11 2010, 08:50 PM

I say take out Ibra and bring in Inzaghi ... Take out Gattuso/Ambro and bring in Robinho.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:51 PM

Great Thiago out!! We're going down fast!!

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:51 PM

Abate in for thiago, strange one!

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:52 PM

Pippo is warming up seriously!

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:52 PM

QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Sep 11 2010, 08:51 PM) *
Abate in for thiago, strange one!

I think Thiago has picked up a hamstring strain.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:52 PM

Now we have Abate as Rb. Brilliant.

Posted by: William405 Sep 11 2010, 08:54 PM

Why is gattuso attacking!****

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 08:54 PM

Abate for Thiago?! oh my... I hope Allegri knows what he's doing!

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:54 PM

Binho warming up! Gatuso should really go out!

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 08:54 PM

If thiago's down, he had to get Bonera in as CB and our option as RB was in fact Abate...

And he couldn't bring in Boateng right away cause then we'd be left with just one sub for 45 minutes.

>_< ****.

Posted by: Coldest Sep 11 2010, 08:55 PM

All Pato knows is running...

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 08:56 PM

RETE!

edit: NOT. ****.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 08:56 PM

what going on....

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:56 PM

oh god what happened here?

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 08:56 PM

Another disallowed goal? mad.gif

Ronaldinho, what are you doing.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:57 PM

3rd goal ruled out biggrin.gif record

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 08:57 PM

Did anyone see Sokratis defending right a mintue before? My goodness.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 08:57 PM

Ronnie needs to cool it

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 08:58 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 07:57 PM) *
3rd goal ruled out biggrin.gif record

Unbeliveable clear goal for pato!

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 08:58 PM

anyone know why that was disallowed?

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 08:59 PM

Gattuso is 10x better when he just stays back.

Boa for ambro is Gattuso stays back

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:00 PM

r80-robinho

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:00 PM

Oh great, another flash player, at least the other one went off.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:00 PM

Binho in for ronnie!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:00 PM

Ronnie off for Robinho

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:01 PM

wow, did someone just delete my post?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:02 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 08:01 PM) *
wow, did someone just delete my post?

unsure.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:03 PM

that was also not off imo

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:03 PM

This lines-man is making some real close calls

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 10:01 PM) *
wow, did someone just delete my post?

Yep, I did it, calling someone an idiot isn't neccessary.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 09:01 PM) *
wow, did someone just delete my post?

If they did, it wasn't me.

Though the forum seems to be going reallllly slow on replying at the moment, unless it's my connection.

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 09:03 PM

OMFG IS this linesman on crack!?!?!?!?!

JESUS CHRIST

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 08:01 PM) *
wow, did someone just delete my post?

Yep, mine too for the same reason probably, we expressed our opinions and someone didnt liked that!

Posted by: jagar Sep 11 2010, 09:04 PM

The linesman should be shot

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:05 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 11:33 PM) *
Yep, I did it, calling someone an idiot isn't neccessary.

When someone says something idiotic like "All Pato knows is running", it is.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2010, 09:05 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 11 2010, 06:19 PM) *
Just watching Barca go 2-0 down to Hercules at Camp Nou.

Makes me hope we won't be as complacent tonight.

I think we know who to blame for this loss.. sad.gif

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 11 2010, 04:03 PM) *
OMFG IS this linesman on crack!?!?!?!?!

JESUS CHRIST


He's not consistently scratching his neck, I'd say he probably just smoked one before the game.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:06 PM

We're rushing too much

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:06 PM

I can somehow see this going to 3-0 at this rate...

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 08:05 PM) *
When someone says something idiotic like "All Pato knows is running", it is.

+1

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 10:05 PM) *
When someone says something idiotic like "All Pato knows is running", it is.

It never really is wink.gif .

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:07 PM

pippo is coming on!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 08:05 PM) *
When someone says something idiotic like "All Pato knows is running", it is.

Let's all cool it ok!!

No need for personal attacks about someone expressing his own oppinion

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 09:07 PM

Inzaghi to come in...

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:07 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 11 2010, 09:05 PM) *
I think we know who to blame for this loss.. sad.gif

laugh.gif

I saw some predictions like 3,4,5,6-0. After one good game.

Didn't think it would be that easy.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:07 PM

Pippo seems to be coming on, imo a midfielder would have been the better option

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:08 PM

Milan today presents a tacticall disaster and a strategic chaos.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2010, 09:08 PM

Rino off, thank God.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:08 PM

rino off for pipo

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:08 PM

pipo 4 rino!

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 09:09 PM

Wow, we're actually gonna play a 4-2-4?

...without Ronaldinho?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:09 PM

Gattuso off????? So we're going to play 4-2-4 or what???

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:09 PM

Rino off for Pippo. Imo Rino has been better then Ambro this half

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:10 PM

A quicker, less defensive midfielder would have been key.

Whats done is done. Lets do it Pippo.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:10 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 11:37 PM) *
Let's all cool it ok!!

No need for personal attacks about someone expressing his own oppinion

There have been all sorts of attacks on people whose own opinions people didn't like. do you want me to say the same thing about player X and see what happens?!

Bah...

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 11 2010, 09:10 PM

Once again, we make a complete hash of a game against a lesser opponent. Anyone who thought the whomping of Lecce marked a turnaround in that department was only kidding themselves.

Gattuso's days as a starter should be all but finished after today's affair.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 08:10 PM) *
There have been all sorts of attacks on people whose own opinions people didn't like. do you want me to say the same thing about player X and see what happens?!

Bah...

It's not like he said Pato is rubbish or something along those lines. Calling someone stupid for that is out of line. We're all getting heated up over this one.

So like I said, just cool it

Posted by: Coldest Sep 11 2010, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 09:05 PM) *
When someone says something idiotic like "All Pato knows is running", it is.


Ok, maybe my statement isn't generally right, but he's not at his best tonight... I mean, he tries to overplay all Casena defence by himself and he's not capable of doing it

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 10:10 PM) *
There have been all sorts of attacks on people whose own opinions people didn't like. do you want me to say the same thing about player X and see what happens?!

Bah...

I don't think calling people names and making insults would be a good thing to do. Player X or not, no one should cross the line.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:12 PM

I'm not watching, but some of Max's decisions seem very weird. and to think how he was praised after the Lecce game... oh my.. this is embarrassing.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:13 PM

Pato, in my eyes has been our best player tonight.

At least he's shown some flair, creativity whereas others have stopped still then passed.

And to be fair he should have 2 goals to his name.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:13 PM

the ref is so bad!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 10:12 PM) *
I'm not watching, but some of Max's decisions seem very weird. and to think how he was praised after the Lecce game... oh my.. this is embarrassing.

Yes - a very badly perpared match.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 09:14 PM

Pirlo hasn't been too productive.

Dinho for some reason never got any balls.

Pato has been inaccurate.

Ibra fit well and played some nice walls. Except he did it with Gattuso rather than Pato/Dinho.

...bad game for us.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:15 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Sep 11 2010, 10:13 PM) *
Pato, in my eyes has been our best player tonight.

I don't know. Tonight, not a single player looks good IMO.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2010, 09:15 PM

Robinho working hard, defending in his own box.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:16 PM

This linesman is blind!!!! Pippo was not offside

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 09:15 PM) *
I don't know. Tonight, not a single player looks good IMO.

Didn't say he's been paticularly brilliant. Just our best player of the night IMO.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 11:41 PM) *
It's not like he said Pato is rubbish or something along those lines. Calling someone stupid for that is out of line. We're all getting heated up over this one.

So like I said, just cool it

It's crystal clear what that sentence means!! but I'm cool. let's move on.

QUOTE (Coldest @ Sep 11 2010, 11:41 PM) *
Ok, maybe my statement isn't generally right, but he's not at his best tonight... I mean, he tries to overplay all Casena defence by himself and he's not capable of doing it

"Maybe" laugh.gif wow...

Let's forget this............!

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 11:41 PM) *
I don't think calling people names and making insults would be a good thing to do. Player X or not, no one should cross the line.

You're right. excusez-moi.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 11:44 PM) *
Yes - a very badly perpared match.

How so?

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:20 PM

Ibra off. He's gotten so many wrong I expected he might let that one go, wrongly of course.

Posted by: Coldest Sep 11 2010, 09:21 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 09:18 PM) *
Maybe" laugh.gif wow...

Let's forget this............!


Peace

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:23 PM

They're running into brick walls and trying to shoot from everywhere, looks like we'll be going home without any points from this one.

The warning signs were there. I think they went into the match with the idea that they've already won it

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 10:20 PM) *
How so?

Well obviously Milan/Allegri expected a similar team to Lecce. At the end he got a typicall Serie A team with deep defensive strategy and fast counters which resulted that after just 10 minutes of play something seemed wrong. And well, it ended as well wrong. Wouldn't you say it was a poor perparation?

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:23 PM

wow SO F****NG BAD

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:24 PM

pipo almost

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:25 PM

Pato really palying worse and worse as time goes by.

Pippo, as allways, has his flare.

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 11 2010, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 01:23 PM) *
I think they went into the match with the idea that they've already won it

That was more than obvious. After all, just about everyone had all but deemed them immortal with Ibrabinho's arrival.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:26 PM

Look at Galliani!!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:27 PM

Wasting a lot of time to take a corner!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:27 PM

HAHaHA...even Abbiati...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:27 PM

That little nasty winger...

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Sep 12 2010, 06:25 AM) *
That was more than obvious. After all, just about everyone had all but deemed them immortal with Ibrabinho's arrival.


They were our best players though.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:28 PM

OMG, we're so bad defensively!!!

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 11 2010, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 01:26 PM) *
Look at Galliani!!!

What, is he keeling over in the stands?

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 11:53 PM) *
Well obviously Milan/Allegri expected a similar team to Lecce. At the end he got a typicall Serie A team with deep defensive strategy and fast counters which resulted that after just 10 minutes of play something seemed wrong. And well, it ended as well wrong. Wouldn't you say it was a poor perparation?

I wouldn't call it bad "preparation" if Allegri's expectations turned out to be wrong. not disagreeing with you, I think it's just wrong choice of words on your side.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

pk

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

I think its extremely evident that Ibra and Robinho have only practiced with this team twice (?).



Ibra take it.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

Penalty!

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

RIGORE

Pirlo should take it

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

Penalty! Cmon we must do it!

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

Come on, Everton style comeback now!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

Pippo...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:30 PM

OMG

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

IBRA ! Oh god, so bad, we are done 4 tonight!

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

Go figure.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

Ibra misses!!

Sums up our night perfectly

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

Thank you Ibra!! Welcome!!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

A penalty dry.gif

and Mr. BIG *** ego misses from the spot innocent.gif

Posted by: Linkman Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

Definitely not our night.

Posted by: William405 Sep 11 2010, 09:31 PM

lol,happens biggrin.gif.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:32 PM

How much time left?!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:32 PM

Pirlo should be taking our penalties! End of story!

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:32 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 08:32 PM) *
How much time left?!

3 + referee time

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 11 2010, 10:31 PM) *
lol,happens biggrin.gif.

Yes it does. Almost for three years now. It happens way too many times.

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:34 PM

Just one goal for confidence's sake. Please.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (RinoIlCapitano @ Sep 12 2010, 12:02 AM) *
3 + referee time

Thanks.

Funny, Pato has been here for 3 seasons, he's yet to take a single penalty (which I believe he can be very good at).

Ibra takes and screws one on his debut.


Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 09:35 PM

LOL

The linesman HAD to get one more wrong call before the end of the match.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:37 PM

I think in the long run this will be good for them. They obviously got ahead of themselves.

This will be this ice cold wakeup call they needed

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:37 PM

Can you imagine Cristiano, Benzema, Higuain, Ozil running at this defence it will be worse than OT last season.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Sep 11 2010, 09:37 PM

Maye it could be a good defeat . maybe we will learn something out of this!

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 11 2010, 09:37 PM

Curse of number 11 Shirt comes back !!

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:39 PM

Overconfidence + Bad Luck + Bad Refs + A good Cesena Side = Piss Poor performance.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2010, 09:40 PM

We are so bad away from home it's sad.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 11 2010, 09:41 PM

Emberassing match. They should be ashamed.

Ratings: Abbiati (5.5) - Bonera (4), Sokratis (4), Antonini (4.5), Thiago Silva (5) - Ambrosini (5), Gattuso (4.5), Pirlo (4.5) - Ronaldinho (4.5), Pato (5.5), Ibrahimovic (4.5); subs: Abate (5.5), Pippo (6.5), Robinho (6); Allegri (4).

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:41 PM

I'm definitely not gonna step in any football forum/site until after we win another game. don't want to read humiliating comments.

Posted by: samira Sep 11 2010, 09:42 PM

nice one Ibra..
And seriously? "Thiago Silva and Sokratis doesn't work good togther and Abate with Sokratis is better?"
We should send our defenders to the mountain too.
zeddie? I thought the same thing five minutes ago..

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 09:42 PM

On the bright side we didn't get beat 5-1 lol

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 11 2010, 09:43 PM

Welcome to Milan, Ibra.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:43 PM

Ibra just had to miss it! The way everything was going for us, I knew he was going to miss that. Everything went wrong tonight. Even the f***** camera angle was terrible!!!

A lot of our players seemed out of it, I think it's a combination of over-confidence, NT break interrupting preperations, etc. The linesmen's decisions were pretty awful on most of the offsides they called, Pato's last goal! There is no expelantion as to why that should be ruled out. Also the loss of Nesta really effected us, Thiago and Sokratis need to work together more for when this happens. They were running circles around eachother most of the time.

There were a lot of key factors that were just not right for us. It just wasn't our night, but I believe that this will be good for the team in the long run.

Anyway, I know I'm not opening another match thread for a while biggrin.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 11 2010, 09:44 PM

NO COMMENT.

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Sep 11 2010, 09:44 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 09:41 PM) *
Emberassing match. They should be ashamed.

Ratings: Abbiati (5.5) - Bonera (4), Sokratis (4), Antonini (4.5), Thiago Silva (5) - Ambrosini (5), Gattuso (4.5), Pirlo (4.5) - Ronaldinho (4.5), Pato (5.5), Ibrahimovic (4.5); subs: Abate (5.5), Pippo (6.5), Robinho (6); Allegri (4).

Robinho - above Pato were we watching the same game?!

Pato had 2 goals wrongfully disallowed, looked bright, tried to set up players. No, he wasn't excellent but he wasn't worse than some suggested in my eyes.

I don't remember Robinho on the ball apart from running back once.

Posted by: samira Sep 11 2010, 09:45 PM

I had Drogba's voice in my head the whole time: what a disgrace, it's a ---- disgrace!
( not like Drogba has something to do with it)

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 11 2010, 09:46 PM

I'd like to add 'Nesta Out' to my equation earlier.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:46 PM

nesta cannot be replaced...
and we have to play one DM at all cost as yet again it is proven the number of DMs adds nothing towards defence and i feel sorry for ibra he had a good game imo so sad he missed the PK

Posted by: elcordobez Sep 11 2010, 09:48 PM

It'd be interesting to hear what Allegri has to say,he got a lot of things wrong.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:50 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 11 2010, 08:46 PM) *
nesta cannot be replaced...
and we have to play one DM at all cost as yet again it is proven the number of DMs adds nothing towards defence and i feel sorry for ibra he had a good game imo so sad he missed the PK

One thing that struck me about Ibra was how hard he worked. he fought a lot, but tended to overdo things on some occasions when a simpler option was available. The penalty miss I saw coming from a mile away, sometimes you just can't even get one thing right to go for you.

But imo, Pirlo should be our regular taker. Obviously scoring that penalty wouldn't have effected the outcome imo, they probably thought they'd give hime his debut goal

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 11 2010, 09:50 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 11 2010, 01:41 PM) *
I'm definitely not gonna step in any football forum/site until after we win another game. don't want to read humiliating comments.

I took a peek at R&B and some are already blaming the loss on Moratti paying off the refs. Pathetic.

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 09:52 PM

Quite agonising display in which quite a few posters ended up looking pretty silly tonight.

Ibra's debut was abysmal, he was so far up his own behind again it was ridiculous. More concerned with trying to be clever, he was completely ineffective and did anyone really believe that penalty was going in?

Ronaldinho struggled horribly and just couldn't get into it like he normally can, and was unsurprisingly removed after 55 minutes.

Pato was bloody unlucky, our best player and had some bad calls go against him.

Robinho did adequately but no more - time will see the best of him.

Pirlo's distribution continues to desert him, and I don't think I'd mind seeing him dropped. Been off form since that 13 gme run last season ended.

As for that defence, good grief - it was opened easier than a bag of crisps.

Clearly last week we were up against a team who didn't have a clue - tonight's opponents did and our frailties were exposed again.

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 09:52 PM

DP

Posted by: han2503 Sep 11 2010, 09:52 PM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Sep 11 2010, 08:50 PM) *
I took a peek at R&B and some are already blaming the loss on Moratti paying off the refs. Pathetic.

biggrin.gif

Well there were a lot of questionable calls in the game, we had 3 goals ruled out!!

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 09:53 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 11 2010, 09:46 PM) *
nesta cannot be replaced...
and we have to play one DM at all cost as yet again it is proven the number of DMs adds nothing towards defence and i feel sorry for ibra he had a good game imo so sad he missed the PK


Ibra was garbage, like much of the team.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 09:56 PM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Sep 12 2010, 12:20 AM) *
I took a peek at R&B and some are already blaming the loss on Moratti paying off the refs. Pathetic.

Tried hard to say something but it's just too sad..!

Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 11 2010, 09:57 PM

ibra was garbage .. dinho was garbage .. thiago was shockingly also garbage .. gattuso - not suprised


we deserved this full on the chin and i hope everytime we decide to **** around an get over confident we remember this night for the rest of the season


Im actually glad we dont have to wait a week to feel like shite as we have auxerre on tues/wed


Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 11 2010, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2010, 08:50 PM) *
One thing that struck me about Ibra was how hard he worked. he fought a lot, but tended to overdo things on some occasions when a simpler option was available. The penalty miss I saw coming from a mile away, sometimes you just can't even get one thing right to go for you.

But imo, Pirlo should be our regular taker. Obviously scoring that penalty wouldn't have effected the outcome imo, they probably thought they'd give hime his debut goal

wish he tred those one-two with someone one other than rino

Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2010, 09:58 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 11 2010, 09:41 PM) *
Emberassing match. They should be ashamed.

Ratings: Abbiati (5.5) - Bonera (4), Sokratis (4), Antonini (4.5), Thiago Silva (5) - Ambrosini (5), Gattuso (4.5), Pirlo (4.5) - Ronaldinho (4.5), Pato (5.5), Ibrahimovic (4.5); subs: Abate (5.5), Pippo (6.5), Robinho (6); Allegri (4).


Agreed on all bar Pato - he was a 7. Had a good game. Probably our only player who really did.

Posted by: William405 Sep 11 2010, 10:00 PM

Flamini or KPB should play,or even maybe together,and then we would have a midfield to speak about.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 11 2010, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2010, 12:22 AM) *
biggrin.gif

Well there were a lot of questionable calls in the game, we had 3 goals ruled out!!

Ref mistakes yes maybe. Moratti buying refs.. NO. some fans can't even lose with dignity!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 11 2010, 10:05 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 11 2010, 11:52 PM) *
Quite agonising display in which quite a few posters ended up looking pretty silly tonight.

Ibra's debut was abysmal, he was so far up his own behind again it was ridiculous. More concerned with trying to be clever, he was completely ineffective and did anyone really believe that penalty was going in?

Ronaldinho struggled horribly and just couldn't get into it like he normally can, and was unsurprisingly removed after 55 minutes.

Pato was bloody unlucky, our best player and had some bad calls go against him.

Robinho did adequately but no more - time will see the best of him.

Pirlo's distribution continues to desert him, and I don't think I'd mind seeing him dropped. Been off form since that 13 gme run last season ended.

As for that defence, good grief - it was opened easier than a bag of crisps.

Clearly last week we were up against a team who didn't have a clue - tonight's opponents did and our frailties were exposed again.


+1

Our weak link was Ibra ... If anything, he should have been dropped from Inzaghi a long time ago.

Since he arrived, he has given nothing but publicity stuns.

As for Pirlo, the man is a menace in midfield, he really is the mechanic in our engine room. I would rather drop Ibra and Ronnie ahead of him anyday.


The main factor for this loss, as han said .. we went into this game thinking it was already won. Had Allegri concentrated on the same line up as against Lecce (bar Nesta & Seedorf), then ease in Ibra and/or Robinho as time passed, when the team got its foot in the match. We might have come out of that stadium with a better result than nothing.

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