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post Apr 19 2009, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 18 2009, 01:30 AM) *
I personally prefer Flamini (when he's on form) to Ambro but come on, we need depth in the squad. if we let Ambro go we will have to look for a replacement and knowing the management, we won't sign players of Sissoko or Essien's caliber; we will sign another Emerson. do you want that?

Whats the point of cardaccio being at milan then? Is he just here for the fun of it?


I have no problem with Ambrosini staying, hes a symbol of milan and a great player.


If we get a new coach next year do you think any of these above 30 players are realistically going to play? If we have carlo for another year than sure. But if we get Rijkaard, it would just be a pointless move for their careers because logically they are not going to play.

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post Apr 19 2009, 11:23 AM
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I don't care, Ambrosini's next years captain and that speaks for itself.
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post Apr 19 2009, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 18 2009, 02:47 AM) *
In far too many matches over the last two years Ambrosini has been the only player to give a damn. He cannot be replaced on and off the pitch at the moment, and we are really gonna need him next year when Maldini has gone


he's one of our most consitent player, i think he always playes at same rate, trying his best, good in air, i dont know what all of you see as bad in him...i understand it for kaladze, but ambro, c'mon...wake up !!

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 18 2009, 03:02 PM) *
If we have any sense then Ricky will be our captain next season. Ambro, at best, can warm the bench.


if we have any sense, ambro, gattuso and pirlo will be infront of ricky for captaincy...
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post Apr 19 2009, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 19 2009, 11:23 AM) *
I don't care, Ambrosini's next years captain and that speaks for itself.


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he's one of our most consitent player, i think he always playes at same rate, trying his best, good in air, i dont know what all of you see as bad in him...i understand it for kaladze, but ambro, c'mon...wake up !!



if we have any sense, ambro, gattuso and pirlo will be infront of ricky for captaincy...


Well if that is to be the case then it will be yet another backward step and will also show a real lack of ambition.
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post Apr 19 2009, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 19 2009, 06:02 PM) *
Well if that is to be the case then it will be yet another backward step and will also show a real lack of ambition.

Lack of ambition? Backward step? He's our captain man! It's tradition!
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post Apr 19 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 19 2009, 07:02 PM) *
Well if that is to be the case then it will be yet another backward step and will also show a real lack of ambition.

lack of ambition would be keeping maldini and favalli as our main defenders...you're really missing the point here

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post Apr 19 2009, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Apr 19 2009, 06:58 PM) *
lack of ambition would be keeping maldini and favalli as our main defenders...you're really missing the point here


Sorry but i think you're missing the point. You would rather have a 32yo who has been constantly injured throughout his career, lacks technical ability, is a liability whenever he tries to tackle and hasn't been a first team regular over the third best player in the world! We need to be ruthless in our clearup and if that means goodbye to ambro then so be it. If he is to stay then it should be to warm the bench. That is the only way we are going to progress.
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post Apr 19 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 19 2009, 06:52 PM) *
Lack of ambition? Backward step? He's our captain man! It's tradition!


Our tradition recently has been to struggle to qualify for CL, I would rather a tradition of winning the Serie A and the only way we're going to do that is to give the younger players a chance to prove themselves.
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 19 2009, 07:34 PM) *
Our tradition recently has been to struggle to qualify for CL, I would rather a tradition of winning the Serie A and the only way we're going to do that is to give the younger players a chance to prove themselves.

You mean 1 season?
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post Apr 19 2009, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 19 2009, 07:35 PM) *
You mean 1 season?


No I mean the past few seasons, last season we didn't even qualify.
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Guys why we arguing for who'll be next year's captain...Its Carlo that'll decide who'll be next yr's captain!!!

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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 19 2009, 08:31 PM) *
Sorry but i think you're missing the point. You would rather have a 32yo who has been constantly injured throughout his career, lacks technical ability, is a liability whenever he tries to tackle and hasn't been a first team regular over the third best player in the world! We need to be ruthless in our clearup and if that means goodbye to ambro then so be it. If he is to stay then it should be to warm the bench. That is the only way we are going to progress.


btw, the first and second best player in the world aren't captains in their clubs either...and you have to much against ambro, i would understand your concerns about a certain group of player who we all dislike, but i think there's not much people on your side on these one...he's not our problem, all other players know he's our 2nd captain, and gattuso is 3th, so when they are playing there is no chance kaka is gonna to be captain, it's not cause he doesn't deserve it, that's just the way it is...

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Season Team League
1992/93 Cesena B -
1993/94 Cesena B -
1994/95 Cesena B 25
1995/96 Milan A 7
1996/97 Milan A 11
1997/98 Vicenza A 27
1998/99 Milan A 26
1999/00 Milan A 29
2000/01 Milan A 16
2001/02 Milan A 9
2002/03 Milan A 21
2003/04 Milan A 20
2004/05 Milan A 22
2005/06 Milan A 13
2006/07 Milan A 19
2007/08 Milan A 33

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Season Team League
1994/95 Perugia B -
1995/96 Perugia B 2
1996/97 Perugia A 8
1997/98 Glasgow R. 36
1998/99 Glasgow R. 4
1998 SalernitanaA 25
1999/00 Milan A 22
2000/01 Milan A 24
2001/02 Milan A 32
2002/03 Milan A 25
2003/04 Milan A 33
2004/05 Milan A 32
2005/06 Milan A 35
2006/07 Milan A 30
2007/08 Milan A 31


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League Team League
2001 San Paolo A 27
2002 San Paolo A 22
2003 San Paolo A 10
2003/04 Milan A 30
2004/05 Milan A 36
2005/06 Milan A 35
2006/07 Milan A 31
2007/08 Milan A 30

are those charts enough big factor for you to think straight or is that just too much for you...cause then, i dont know why today maldini was captain, and not kaka, after all he has scored more goals then maldini, and win more fifa and uefa prizes...

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post Apr 19 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Apr 19 2009, 09:35 PM) *
btw, the first and second best player in the world aren't captains in their clubs either...and you have to much against ambro, i would understand your concerns about a certain group of player who we all dislike, but i think there's not much people on your side on these one...he's not our problem, all other players know he's our 2nd captain, and gattuso is 3th, so when they are playing there is no chance kaka is gonna to be captain, it's not cause he doesn't deserve it, that's just the way it is...

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are those charts enough big factor for you to think straight or is that just too much for you...cause then, i dont know why today maldini was captain, and not kaka, after all he has scored more goals then maldini, and win more fifa and uefa prizes...


Lol lol and lol are you implying that Ambro and Rino are on the same level as Maldini (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Dear Lord (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And IIRC isn't Ronaldo captain of Portugal? Not sure about Messi but as he's only 21 or 22 he has time on his side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Edit: And according to you stats Ambro has played 208 times in 10 years = 20.8 games per season, Rino 264 times in 9 years = 29.3 games per season while Ricky has played 162 times in 5 years = 32.4 games per season so Ricky has statistically played more than the pair of them! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Apr 19 2009, 09:29 PM) *
Guys why we arguing for who'll be next year's captain...Its Carlo that'll decide who'll be next yr's captain!!!


We're debating who we think deserves the armband. And carlo might not be here next year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 19 2009, 09:43 PM
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you see, you're not gettin what i'm saying...of course i'm implying ambro and rino are on the same level as maldini, not for their playing skills but for their existence at the club that puts them in front of other for captaincy...
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