I personally agree with Boban and Costacurta critiszing his return. Shevchenko shouldn't have come back. I can't forget the way he left us - for the money of Chelski no matter what his "explanations" were.

Sheva will remain one of the greatest Milan players but whatever happens he has a stigma on himself which cannot be obliterated.

He could never become a legend at the scale of Baresi, Maldini, Basten or Nordahl.

The reason they are put in the first team is that every club in Italy has the right to sign 2 non-EU players per season (and 1 in the winter trasfer window). This is a valuable option and most of the clubs don't miss to exploite it by signing young talents from all arround the world every season. Once they were signed on a permanent contract ussually these youngsters are loaned to clubs from lower divisions. That was supposed to be the faith of Kaka when he arrived initially in Milan at the age of 21 I think. But after a few weeks he turned to be too good for serie B team (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

So far we have signed Dinho but he already has a spanish passport so the two spots for non EU players were still free and it wasn't a big surprise that these two young southamericans were signed at the end.

However I thought I read somewhere that one of them may have an italian passport. If it is true I would expect us to sign another non EU youngster.

Drogba is the best solution for MILAN and the cheapest one - Torres, Huntelaar, Benzema sorry but at this pont they just don't look good enough for Milan!

50 pages on Pato and yet he played just a sinlge game for us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Shevchenko or Kaka are nowhere near after their first games for Milan.

However I do remeber Kaka on his first game for Milan - a rainy evening in Ancona, not the best pitch in the world. Never seen him playing before didn't took me long to relaize that this brazlilian youngster was a pure class - natural daiamond. And was confident he will rule our game in the years to come.

Guess I was right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I've seen Pato in action - @ the World U20's and some videos of him. Was quite aware what I could expect from him and wasn't surprised from his performance last night.

Ant yet my fellow rossoneri I've no doubts that this boy could become one of the greatest players not only in the hisotry of AC Milan but of course in the history of world football.

He is only 18 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

So the logic of football says that in the next 5 years he could only get better and better.

Normally a footballer is reaching his peak no earlier than at 23 -24 years of age.

As someone mentioned - he already has the skills of all round completed striker. what he needs to develope is his strength, muscules, and most importnalty to keep his mind cool on the pitch.

I'm really scared to think what he would look alike on the pitch 5 years from now. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

From where I'm standing now I could easily see him as the No 1 goalscorer for Milan of all times in the next 10 years. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

Some very good points.

Couldn't add much. Also thought Brocchi would do the job with fresh legs for 25 min but he proved me wrong (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

With Maldini and Gattuso for another 20 min in the 2nd half we would've drawn the game at least. Was really bad luck we lost them so early in the second half.

Bonera has a lot of talent. I was a bit scepitcal about him at first but after watching him a bit I'm sure he will be fundamental for Milan in the future. He is extremely good in the air despite being not so tall at all.
han2503 is spot on though. He just wasn't ready mentaly to jump in in such huge CL game. He needs some more experience on european level.

For the second goal mainly 3 people were to blame. Scholes was just in the zone between Bonera and Seedorf but none od them both covered him. I think it was more Bonera who should've been couple of metres closer to Scholes not giving him the time to calibrate the chip towards Shrek. I really thought afterwards that Paolo with his experince would've read the situation better and prevent Scholes from making that pass.

Oddo did covered the offside and that is his mistake no doubt. In such situations it's Nesta who is in charge of the offside trap and the fullbacks should never ever be behind him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

All in all MU did well scoring the second goal and exposed our defence.

But the 1st and the 3rd goals were COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

In general I think we did not bad as a team performance. May be a couple of individual mistakes cost us but for large periods we were in control of the game at MU backyard. Gilardino needs to improve his game. Otherwise his days at Milan ( and in the big football) will be over (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

It's a big dilema for Ancelotti - Inzaghi doesn't have the stamina for 90 min and after 60 - 70 min he has to be substituted. But then if he puts Gilardino in the starting 11 we are endangered to play without efficient striker once again. Which inevitably wil leed to his substitution if the things are not going well for us. In both cases one of our 3 subs is spent in advance.

One of my biggest hopes for the return are Jankulovski and Oddo. They could provide us with sharpness and pace on the flanks in away Mu defence never experienced in the first game because primary objectives were to keep it tight at the back at all costs. But next wednesday, particulary where both MU first choice fullbacks are out (Neville and Evra) I think we should use the flanks more often. Probably Serjinho could give his contribution as well.
And have to find a way to free Pirlo from Scholes' marking.

FORZA MILAN

We need to look at our play more carefully. But I'm afraid that Ancelotti is too biased to handle the things right for just 7 days.

Seedorf was very poor - no precision, no pace, no creativity. He was totally out of the game. And it is not his first time - it's been the same for some months now.

He was suposed to shift his position with Kaka and the fullbacks when they were eattaking and to open some space in Bayern's backyard. It never happened. That's why Kaka didn't see much of the ball - there was no one else to put some pressure on the germans and they marked him with numbers.

Don't know why Seedorf stayed on the pitch for so long - he was of no use to the team.

We need a game where our team could open spaces for Kaka one way or another. We have excellent fullbacks like Oddo and Jankulovski. What we need is more action from the midfield to double them on the wings and put maximum pressure on their defence. When Kaka recieved the ball germans were quick to double on him - we just have to do something to avoid that.

Don't think this could happen with Seedorf there in his current form. Unfortunately Sergio is out for too long and don't think that starting with him will be good idea.

We are the better team I have no doubts about that. We are better technically and as individuals. We need to go out and play with condfidence and heart. I'm not convinced that Seedorf and Dida could do that in week time...

It wasn't for bad luck that we failed - we failed because of ourselves. If we are able to understand that - Ancelotti also, we can go there and play game up to our level - there is a good chance that we can do it.

Simic was never unreliable ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Simic is ridiculous. a dew years back when we were the best team in the world he was our worst player. He was 2 levels under that team.

I'm not a suporter of Kaldze either. But Kaladze was awuful as leftback. He has bad positioning but it's ok as centreback.

And Bonera played also as centreback in Parma - true. But I think that was more after P. Cannavaro left. And Couto was first choice centeback for several years.

Have an opinion but don't argue just for the argument. I follow MILAN for many many years and know more about this team that many people arround...

Well true but I think the trnsfer is coming. Let's make some calculations.

Ronaldo will recieve the same 6 mil Euro per season as it is in Real. But he will have 100% of the rights over his image. Now he has to share it with Real 50-50 %. We know that Milan won't pay a transfer fee for him so Ronaldo needs to release himself from Real on his on.

The key moment is will his agent be able to decrease the transfer fee down somewhat equal to these 50% revenues which now are going to Real but when he comes to Milan will be on his disposure.

So he gives the money to Real signs with Milan and then gets back these money from the righst over his image. TRhink they will manage to make a deal though I don't know how much he earns from immage rights annually.

I'm sure that now Oddo will be the first choice for right back with Cafu as backup.

So our somewhat best 4 at the back in theory should be Oddo-Bonera-Maldini-Jankulovski

What's going on with Nesta ? Any fresh news ?

Now we have 3 right backs - Oddo, Cafu, Simic + Bonera who is turned into centreback now but used to play in Parma as right defender.

Simic in unreliable as centreback so simply there's no place for him. Our true problems are the centrebacks. With Nesta out only choice is Bonera - Maldini. But Paolo should not play every game so.....Costacurta ?

Kaladze is better as centreback in fact. surely better than Simic. And could play on the left as well were we have only Jankulovski.

It's logical that Simic should go. Simply there will be no place for him in the squad except in case of emergency.

Simic has 5 % of the games with Milan as centreback and 95 % as fullback. He'll leave. He is on his way out since last January when we first tried to sign Oddo.

And Bonera was far from impressive against Lazio particulary when Rocchi tested him with his pace.


Perhapse the contract isn't signed yet that's why there is no official anouncement but Gazzetta isn't Sun or Mirror (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

Indeed gazzetta reported that the deal was sone last night via the phone (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) 7,5 mil EUR + the rights over P.Foggia . I'd say Lazio've taken the max from it ...

This probably means that Simic will leave immidiately.

I disagree. Calciopoly was a major distracting factor. We wasn't even sure that Milan will play in Europe next season and where exactly.

We signed Bonerra and I believe we will sign another defender - probably Oddo or Gallas. And who knows now when Inter have 6 strikers Adriano might rethink his position in Inter. Sheva departure was a big loss and I always have seen Adriano as the only adequate substitution for MILAN attack.

There is still a month before serie A kikck-off and 20 days before the end of transfer window - plenty of time to make signings.

Must say that Ronaldo in his prime - which I believe was his Inter period before the injury - was simply the best striker in the world.

Even today I'd say that Ronaldo and Sheva should be put in diferent category than all other strikers even only because only they are playing both leggs with equal ease.This is an incredible advantage for a striker because gives hi the possibility to change his direction at will and shoot at will from anywhere.

For example Henry and Adriano do have great talent but it's a bit funny to watch how poor they handle the ball with respectively left and right foot and always need to adjust the ball to their strong foot before shooting.That's make them predictable and a good defender could use this in various ways to block them.

I'm sure you all've seen Sheva goal against Inter this spring or the great goal against Cagliari recently.Both with his left foot.Right foot goals - against juve - in 2001 , against Lazio (away and home last season) etc.Henry or Adriano could never score such goals with their weak foot.

Today I rate Sheva and Adriano over Ronaldo - but Ronnie has never been the same after that long injury...

Perhapse the biggest Sheva advantage over Ronaldo is the heading - Sheva is so much better in it - much more than anything else in which Ronaldo could be considered better - like dribbling for example.

No doubt that today Shevchenko is the best overall striker in the world !

Indeed Felipe was pretty bad against Barca - I've seen the game live.Also looks like Iaquinta is back in Udinese squad - I read it last night on rai teletext.

Site is really really good (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

I loved it from the first time I saw it ( 10x to Sheva is Brilliant who helped me to find it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) )


keep it up and FORZA MILAN!

I have java and tried both with IE and mozila - (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

got this in message box

14:04] Unable to connect to blueyonder.uk.quakenet.org : currently trying to connect to blueyonder.uk.quakenet.org

[11:27] Unable to connect : null

every time I try to connect - it's the same story (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

M1ke did you get my PM?There u can find the song in the mp3 section.

Last news:

Looks like juve are looking to sign Cassano + Panucci.Don Fabio is getting older and a bit too much conservative I think (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) c'mon Panucci and Zebina for full-backs - may be good enough for Roma but for team who pretends to be the best in Italy and Europe - hahaha

Cassano is great talent but awful person.He's selfish , undisciplined, bad tempred, nothing like a team player.He involved himself in confrontation with every single manager he worked with - including Capello.

Never wanted him at MILAN and HOPE he will never come