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post Mar 9 2023, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 8 2023, 11:22 PM) *
Exaggerate much?


Come on Danny!

Serie A is imo at it's best it's been in years. Do you think it was better when Juve were making a mockery of it? Napoli have taken advantage of inconsistencies shown by the other top sides. I'll give you that. I think the World Cup break factors a lot into this. We came back in January cooked. That is our season right there. Inter were bad at the start but have improved.


You've sort of agreed with me while disagreeing. Quite impressive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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For us, it's obvious we have big weaknesses, especially when you look beyond the first 11. Hopefully we sort out the obvious issues we have with the squad in the summer. But overall, I think the quality in the league has improved. Certainly among the top 6 sides, when comparing to the dark days of the Juve reign that is.


We'll make the CL next year. Roma and Lazio are just too inconsistent. The game against Fiorentina should be a blip. The Spurs game was obviously weighing and looming. We looked like we couldn't be bothered there.

Anyway. Let's celebrate going through


I feel worried because I don't think we were ever really tested. So considering who we could draw out of that hat in a week's time puts me on edge. Hoping we at least manage to avoid the likes of Bayern, City, Real for now


Spurs were garbage. No heart. I was absolutely wrong about them tonking us in this one, UCL DNA Milan rightly and easily went through.
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post Mar 9 2023, 09:59 AM
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An unbiased opinion? Here we go ?

Milan fielded a team that is, with all due respect inferior to that of Spurs. Tonali, Messias, Salemaekers, Krunic, and the likes are (and it pains me to actually type this) dwarfs in comparison to their counterparts at Spurs. That said, with courage and grit Milan did the needful.

Whoever Milan face next will most likely cause Milan lots of trouble, as Milan?s squad is a young squad with room for improvement. Year on year, the team has improved (Scudetto aside, as that was IMHO a premature success in the team?s development), making the Quarter finals is definitely an improvement to times gone by. Hence, if and when Milan play that round and are knocked out, the players should be supported regardless of who preforms and who flops.

Yes we as fans criticize and sometimes think the team can produce miracles such as the run last season. Miracles do happen, however a squad of a certain calibre is needed to achieve that and Milan sadly do not have such.
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post Mar 9 2023, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Mar 9 2023, 12:40 AM) *
You've sort of agreed with me while disagreeing. Quite impressive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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QUOTE (Danny @ Mar 9 2023, 12:40 AM) *
Spurs were garbage. No heart. I was absolutely wrong about them tonking us in this one, UCL DNA Milan rightly and easily went through.

I agree. Which is why I'm on edge about any potential opponent coming up.

They had nothing, and couldn't come close to us. 3 shots on target over 180 minutes with an xG of les than 1 over the 2 legs.

Our finishing was abysmal throughout the tie, otherwise we would have been out of sight while still in Italy

I think any side that is not Real, City or Bayern we have a chance if we play it right and take our chances.


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An unbiased opinion? Here we go ?

Milan fielded a team that is, with all due respect inferior to that of Spurs. Tonali, Messias, Salemaekers, Krunic, and the likes are (and it pains me to actually type this) dwarfs in comparison to their counterparts at Spurs. That said, with courage and grit Milan did the needful.

Whoever Milan face next will most likely cause Milan lots of trouble, as Milan?s squad is a young squad with room for improvement. Year on year, the team has improved (Scudetto aside, as that was IMHO a premature success in the team?s development), making the Quarter finals is definitely an improvement to times gone by. Hence, if and when Milan play that round and are knocked out, the players should be supported regardless of who preforms and who flops.

Yes we as fans criticize and sometimes think the team can produce miracles such as the run last season. Miracles do happen, however a squad of a certain calibre is needed to achieve that and Milan sadly do not have such.

Disagree completely re Spur's team being better than ours. Who from their team would walk into our first 11 aside from Kane?

Son would have a year ago but he looks absolutely shot.

All the others are a lever below our players and it showed on the pitch.
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post Mar 9 2023, 04:31 PM
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Btw, according to sky sport. We stand to make 71.4m from CL revenue this season. (I think this excludes match day revenue)

So hopefully this will boost that budget for next summer. If we're forced into selling Leao because of the contract situation, we really should be able to strengthen significantly. Hopefully it is all re-invested into the squad
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post Mar 9 2023, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 9 2023, 04:25 PM) *


Pity the emojis are dead now. How long before this forum is?

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I agree. Which is why I'm on edge about any potential opponent coming up.

They had nothing, and couldn't come close to us. 3 shots on target over 180 minutes with an xG of les than 1 over the 2 legs.

Our finishing was abysmal throughout the tie, otherwise we would have been out of sight while still in Italy

I think any side that is not Real, City or Bayern we have a chance if we play it right and take our chances.


Spurs are like PSG - they have a lot of great individuals but they just don't have a great team This generation peaked when they got to the UCL final which is more than can be said for PSG tbf.

As for the rest of the competition, I think Milan have punched well above our weight and would be stunned if we get past the next round regardless of opponent.

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Disagree completely re Spur's team being better than ours. Who from their team would walk into our first 11 aside from Kane?

Son would have a year ago but he looks absolutely shot.

All the others are a lever below our players and it showed on the pitch.


Not sure I'd agree. If there's one thing we lack it's asset players, aside Leao. We don't have many top players in this team, while Spurs have a host of them. The difference is they just don't glue well, never really have, and as I said earlier, they peaked a few years ago. Tonali and Leao probably our best two.

To directly answer you, Son is class even if he's not having the best season this season, Kane obviously, Moura is a top midfielder even if he's not the youngest now, Perisic is probably better than any winger we have aside Leao, and while it's gone horribly wrong for Richarlison there, the world cup showed what an astonishing player he is under the right circumstances.

The only position we're actually better in is goals - despite LLoris being (recently retired) France captain and their former first choice, I'd pick Maignan every single time. Our number one is one of the best five goalies in the world.

But that doesn't really matter. We beat them rightly and justifiably.
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post Mar 12 2023, 08:57 AM
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Fun fact: Did you know Milan's backline (Maignan, Kalulu, Tomori & Thiaw) only cost EUR 50M?
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post Mar 13 2023, 10:47 PM
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What a f*cked up season. CL quarters are the only thing that's keeping it alive.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 13 2023, 10:47 PM) *
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What a f*cked up season. CL quarters are the only thing that's keeping it alive.

Yep another 2 points down the drain, we're gong to finish this season limping

Pioli once again with terrible subs. Terrible overall approach that was mostly lazy and it looked like we wanted to sleep walk through it.

I don't know. It feels like the team is demotivated in the league. I know any hope of defending the title went out the window in January, but there is the huge issue of the CL to play for. We cannot f@ck that up under any circumstances!

Leao... I don't know wtf is going on with him but he looks like Biabiani out there FFS! Shooting from all the wrong areas, doesn't help in the defensive phase, basically walking around for the entire game and when he had space to run into he f@cked it up each time

Krunic man... I know Tonali needs the rest but it just kills me how as soon as you take out Tonali or Benna the quality goes way down. Krunic does a decent job but the midfield is not working right.

The goal once again, everyone falling asleep, we're lazily trying to build an attack, lose the ball and everyone is all over the place.


We really need to f@cking wake up. Thankfully, Roma, Lazio and Inter are all conspiring to not make CL football either next season so it seems that even with all our f@ck ups, we'll have a chance
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Pioli saved his skin until the end of the season

But I think it's time for him to go in the summer. The players look de-motivated. Which is worrying. Don't think I've ever seen this group of players like this, certainly not under his tenure.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Mar 9 2023, 11:21 PM) *
Pity the emojis are dead now. How long before this forum is?

Who knows. We'll enjoy it while it's around...

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Spurs are like PSG - they have a lot of great individuals but they just don't have a great team This generation peaked when they got to the UCL final which is more than can be said for PSG tbf.

As for the rest of the competition, I think Milan have punched well above our weight and would be stunned if we get past the next round regardless of opponent.

Nah, Spurs are a pretty well run club and don't really break the bank compared to their EPL counterparts that is.

Their only really top individuals are Kane and Son imo. The rest are decent but not much more.

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Not sure I'd agree. If there's one thing we lack it's asset players, aside Leao. We don't have many top players in this team, while Spurs have a host of them. The difference is they just don't glue well, never really have, and as I said earlier, they peaked a few years ago. Tonali and Leao probably our best two.

To directly answer you, Son is class even if he's not having the best season this season, Kane obviously, Moura is a top midfielder even if he's not the youngest now, Perisic is probably better than any winger we have aside Leao, and while it's gone horribly wrong for Richarlison there, the world cup showed what an astonishing player he is under the right circumstances.

The only position we're actually better in is goals - despite LLoris being (recently retired) France captain and their former first choice, I'd pick Maignan every single time. Our number one is one of the best five goalies in the world.

But that doesn't really matter. We beat them rightly and justifiably.

Aside from Kane, who would get into our team?

Their CBs? None would get in ahead of our trio imo. We have young, fast and athletic CBs, that's the key in modern football. Dier, Langlet, or crazy Romero? Would take none of them

Wingbacks? Maybe Perisic ahead of our current crop but he's dropped off a cliff since going there. No words needed re the left side, Theo is top 5 in his position.

Midfield? Hojbjerg or Bentancur (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

As for the attack. Son I would have loved to have but he's looking leggy this season, Leao might be having a nightmare 2 months but I'd go with him.

Kane is an obvious pick

And Brahim might not be everyone's cup of tea. I'd take him over Kulusevski, who as a winger is very one dimensional


Obviously they have players like Richarlison and Moura and we don't really have a deep bench, but in terms of the first 11. Our is better
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 13 2023, 10:47 PM) *
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What a f*cked up season. CL quarters are the only thing that's keeping it alive.


Fair play to you on the Italy shout - only need Napoli to deliver tonight and the league is a full house. I did watch Inter last night - they rode their luck big time v Porto, who were the better team but the gods wanted Inter to win.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Mar 12 2023, 08:57 AM) *
Fun fact: Did you know Milan's backline (Maignan, Kalulu, Tomori & Thiaw) only cost EUR 50M?


More fun fact, I prefer Kjaer to Kalulu and Thiaw absolutely isn't good enough for the shirt by a long way.

For me the strongest defence is still a back four of RB, Kjaer, Tomori and Theo. I don't like any of our RBs and would sign a new one. But Maignan was a stunning signing.

But hey, we're a 3 now so what do I know.

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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 13 2023, 11:04 PM) *
Who knows. We'll enjoy it while it's around...


Wonder where Mike went!

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]Nah, Spurs are a pretty well run club and don't really break the bank compared to their EPL counterparts that is.


Um, they just spent ?150M, they're the 6th highest spenders above Liverpool and Man City...

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Their only really top individuals are Kane and Son imo. The rest are decent but not much more.


We'll definitely have to disagree here.

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Aside from Kane, who would get into our team?

Their CBs? None would get in ahead of our trio imo. We have young, fast and athletic CBs, that's the key in modern football. Dier, Langlet, or crazy Romero? Would take none of them

Wingbacks? Maybe Perisic ahead of our current crop but he's dropped off a cliff since going there. No words needed re the left side, Theo is top 5 in his position.

Midfield? Hojbjerg or Bentancur (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

As for the attack. Son I would have loved to have but he's looking leggy this season, Leao might be having a nightmare 2 months but I'd go with him.

Kane is an obvious pick

And Brahim might not be everyone's cup of tea. I'd take him over Kulusevski, who as a winger is very one dimensional

Obviously they have players like Richarlison and Moura and we don't really have a deep bench, but in terms of the first 11. Our is better


As a biased Milan fan, you're obviously going to reason this. But as a more impartial one who follows football in general and also supports Rangers, I'd suggest your view is a little skewed. Plus you praise most of their team but add that legendary 'but' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 15 2023, 11:12 PM
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Italy did its reputation a serious favour with such a superb last 16, Napoli joining Milan and Inter.

I do think the quarters will be too far against the likes of Bayern and Real, but obviously Italy will have a side in the semis if two of them get each other in the draw.

Be fascinating to see how this weaker Milan does in this competition at the real business end.

Last 8 is where it gets serious.

Imagine Milan winning the league last season then the UCL this!
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QUOTE (Danny @ Mar 15 2023, 07:17 PM) *
More fun fact, I prefer Kjaer to Kalulu and Thiaw absolutely isn't good enough for the shirt by a long way.

For me the strongest defence is still a back four of RB, Kjaer, Tomori and Theo. I don't like any of our RBs and would sign a new one. But Maignan was a stunning signing.

But hey, we're a 3 now so what do I know.


It is what it is.

A prime Maldini or Nesta in today?s money would cost any club 80M at least, each. Hence having such a backline for that much, is shrewd business; granted none of these players would be first team material for a Milan in its prime.

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