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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 23 2020, 08:10 AM) *
Sure, but fatigue would not allow your legs to keep to that kind of pressing. That will come as we regain fitness levels as they were post lockdown imo


That is not a justification. Other teams also get fatigued, but they still keep playing. Besides, against Celtic we had many players who didn’t start on Saturday so you can’t say fatigue was a motive.

Look, even if we decide that after a 2-0 lead at HT we want to manage the result without pressing as much, I understand that completely. But there’s a difference between managing a result and simply switching off, which is what we’ve been doing lately.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2020, 10:23 PM) *
SPAL? We haven't played them yet have we?

I think you're nit-picking a bit here to not let yourself buy into this too much because we've been burned a lot in the past.

Yes, today we took the 2nd half a bit too lightly, but imo, we only came under pressure once Kessie came off, not before then, we were still relatively comfortable for the first 15 minutes or so of the half, and aside from 2 plays, we were never really pressured seriously.

Let's just enjoy this, yes there still needs to be improvement, I think the games we played at the end of last season were more fluid and we had better fitness levels, all things we can achieve as the season progresses. If we get to that level we can beat any team, as we demonstrated just 2 months ago.

The fact the we have so many things to be excited about in this team, especially all the young players who are all showing their quality


Agreed re Krunic. He's just average. Plus he made some really bad errors in that 2nd half

Tonali also needs to improve imo. He's taking too long on the ball. He needs to be quicker and be more accurate with his passing.

I actually liked Dalot, Celtic were double teaming us heavily on the wings, they did their homework re how we use our FBs. Theo rarely managed to break free as well. Plus this is his first game. That being said, if he doesn't impress, we simply send him back to Man U, no harm, no foul


I meant Spezia.

And I don't think I'm nitpicking. I'm not saying we should play extraordinary football cos we don't have the right players to do so, but just to keep up the momentum for the whole match. We shouldn't doze off like this cos then it becomes a bad habit, not to mention it doesn't bode well in terms of mentality improvement.

We need to be continuously aggressive, something we did really well after the lockdown last season.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2020, 09:58 PM) *
I have a bad feeling Pioli is going to play Krunic against Roma


I really hope I'm wrong here, Celtic is at the right level where he can look half decent, but against Roma he won't cut it. Diaz should be playing instead of Hakan


Indeed. Krunic is such a mediocre player. Tonight he looked half decent inn the first half cos Celtic were truly sh*t, but he has no place to start games in the Serie A, especially as trequartista.

Dalot looked pretty average as well. I liked him defensively, but for a fullback he looked like another Conti, maybe even worse.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2020, 09:54 PM) *
Yeah, we relaxed, but I don't agree that we've stopped playing in all our 2nd halves. Aside from the Inter game, where we were under pressure but did not concede in the 2nd half, the other games we've played were all balanced in terms of how we play both halves (Maybe you have a case with the Rio Ave game as well where we were dead tired by the 2nd half).

You also have to factor in fatigue setting in as the game goes on. We've played the most games so far compared to the other Serie A teams, in a very compressed period of time. It's going to take effect

That being said, today we definitely took our feet off the gas around the 60th minute mark, especially when Kessie came off, he's our anchor in that midfield and Bennacer didn't come on strong. I think they felt they could cruise the rest of the game given how poor Celtic were


Nah, even before Kessie got off. We reentered the pitch with a different mentality, like the game was won so we just had to sit tight and fend off their meager attacks, when in reality Lenon's change of formation and Celtic's grit truly put us under pressure.

And no, it wasn't just this game or the Inter game. Aside from SPAL where we were 0-0 at half time, in nearly every other game we've let this happen. Bologna, Bodo, Crotone, Rio Ave, it's been the same to some degree or another.
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Pathetic second half. Either we stop caring or get tired, I can't tell which one is it. But it's getting worrying.

Happy for Hauge. Pioli should start giving him more time than the usual final 10-15 minutes.
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1-2

Deserved.
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As in nearly every game this season thus far, we simply stop playing in the second half.
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QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 22 2020, 08:14 PM) *
Krunic!!! X-off 😅


From Castillejo's assist nonetheless.

Easy game. Celtic are really bad.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2020, 12:13 PM) *
Meh, I think clubs should push for it.

It will render UEFA powerless. Their FFP BS is getting on people's nerves big time, especially when teams like City and PSG keep escaping punishment, while others have to play by the rules.

I say the top clubs should go for it, and negotiate an astronomical TV deal that would put UEFA out of business.


Good point. They can go f*ck themselves with their FFP bullshit.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2020, 12:13 PM) *
We've lost Hakan through an ankle injury, not worried about this game in particular as I wanted Pioli to rest him, but he won't be available for the Roma game which is a big blow.


Yeah, big blow, considering we might still have Rebic unavailable as well.

For tonight looks like Dalot might start. Mediaset also has Castillejo starting, and Krunic as LAM which I'm not even even gonna bother with anymore.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 21 2020, 09:03 PM) *
The same coach getting slaughtered in the match thread?!


Slaughtered? I only criticised his subs, calm down.

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 21 2020, 09:03 PM) *
Getting results and winning big games - isn't that exactly the point I'm making?


That's only part of what I said.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 21 2020, 03:55 PM) *
Not been up to speed with Milan lately, you were all very excited about Tonali, is he living up to that?


Not really. He hasn't played that much to be honest. Bennacer last year started slowly as well. The thing is that Bennacer didn't have competition. It's hard to think Tonali can "steal" the spot of either Bennacer or Kessie cos they are too important for us.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 21 2020, 03:48 PM) *
And when we get there we can once again have the mindset of winners. Hard to have that champion outlook when you're outta that loop for 10 years. The obvious examples is Liverpool and Leeds - both champions in the 70s and 80s and 90s but had a 30-year hiatus - can't read the mind of their fans but thinking they're still successful and acting like they should be, if they did, achieved absolutely nothing.

Unfortunately we need to adjust to what we are. It's in the DNA of Milan to be champions, but this is not the Milan of that DNA right now. And as result, being top of the table, 4 wins out of 4 and beating Inter with the goal record we have this season is absolutely remarkable.

I wanted to eat humble pie some months ago about us sustaining tail end of last season into November December. It looks like I might get a feast. And now it's YOU unhappy with the state of play instead!?



Yes.



No, it really doesn't.



From an analysis point of view I have no complaint about looking in depth at things like stats (our great friend these days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) and looking at the bigger picture. But football will always be about results - not how you got them.



Let's be honest - even Carlo's Milan wasn't always great, in fact, it was often far from it - often won ugly and some of his selections were terrible. It's not about being great, it's about winning. Winning is in this club's DNA, however that is achieved.

And if we win the league this season with pure luck and winning each match 1-0 while half the goals are OGs, it's still a win!


I get you, I really do. But we've already made that first important step forward. This is not the same Milan of the last 10 years. We're finally getting results, winning big games, we have an identity, a real leader, a coach with a vision, and we're playing realitvely well.

We should build on all this. This year it'll be back to CL, next year I expect us to fight for the scudetto. But only if we're improving. No steps backwards should be accepted anymore.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 21 2020, 12:06 PM) *
That club you're thinking of is gone. This is a new Milan, and achieving what we have is wonderful.

If you remain stuck in the late 80s and the last 20 years you'll never be able to support what the club is now.


Yeah, but it's where we should strive to get back to. That's the whole point.

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 21 2020, 12:06 PM) *
Is it? Results are the whole point of football.


Just results? How you you achieve those results doesn't matter? Getting some perspective on whether we'll be able to continue attaining these results in the mid-to-long term? We need to keep improving if we want to become great again.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 18 2020, 03:54 PM) *
Top of the table. 4 wins out of 4. Derby win.

And MF regulars still whine.


If there's room to criticise, then I don't see the problem in doing that. Like I said before, I'm not the kind of guy who just looks at the result and smile. I always want us to get better and make as few mistakes as possible. It's how winners such as our club should think.

Am I happy with the results thus far? Extremely. But that's another matter entirely.
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About tonight's performances, I thought Kjaer, Calabria, Kessie and Ibra were our best players. Worth noting that both goals started from Calabria. He simply owned Perisic tonight.

Romagnoli and Theo were pretty bad. I understand Romagnoli who was coming from 3 months of inactivity, but Theo completely lost his duel with Hakimi. Not gonna mention Castillejo again.

I would have included Leao as well, but he assisted the second goal, so that sort of dismisses him. But he was pretty poor. He can't play on the wing, at least not under Pioli's system. He's too immobile off the ball, doesn't press, doesn't combine well enough with the other players, like Saelemaekers for example does. He just doesn't fit, and looks like an external body who just awaits for the ball to do his own tricks.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2020, 09:11 PM) *
Correction. Apparently Skriniar has the Rona. But from what I read from Inter fans, Conte is not fond of him


He was rumoured to leave but then stayed. Conte isn't indeed fond of him.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2020, 07:58 PM) *
Did Pioli play it safe? Yes. But given our recent derby history I understand his decisions.

Tonali has looked nervous in his previous games. I don't think this was this right time to put him in

Regarding Samu, I didn't compliment his attacking play, but he did help in other areas.

We're really going to nit-pick winning the derby? After a 4 year dry spell?

And have Inter never gotten lucky during that time and got the 3 points?


Sorry, but I'm not the kind of guy who just looks at the result and smiles.

Pioli made it more difficult for us, is what I'm saying. I simply hate the idea of fielding useless players in delicate situations like this when the stakes are very high. We were incredibly lucky, and we might be singing another song had any one of their chances gone in.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2020, 07:39 PM) *
I understand the frustration, but I think in hindsight the subs were correct. Krunic added another body in the middle of the pitch.

And I feel like Pioli was very hesitant to put in any of the young players given the tense nature of the game.

Samu did what was needed as well. I've been one of his harshest critics, but he came in, pressed high and put the Inter defenders under pressure.

Yes we had close calls, but we should have ended it given the chances, Samu and Krunic both had.

So all in all, it was a good game. A very good first half with a cagey 2nd. Always to be expected given fatigue was setting in considering the insane schedule some of the players (on both sides) have had to deal with.

As for switching off. We haven't switched off since the Genoa game. You can't control the entire 90 minutes. Especially not against a team like Inter who are title favourites this year btw


Oh come on, man!

Castillejo did what was needed? Many players can press high, but you also have to look at what extra qualities they can bring when coming in, especially in a delicate game like this. We had so many counterattacks that Castillejo completely squandered with his inability to do anything decent. Even got an elbow by Ibra after the nth waste.

I'm not saying I was against the idea of adding more bodies in midfield, but put in Tonali, not Krunic. We signed all these new exciting youngsters yet we still rely on old garbage. It's not like Krunic or Castillejo have any more experience in these games than the likes of Tonali, Brahim or Hauge do.
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FFS man! This second half had me suffering like a b*tch.

It was so ugly, so disorganised by our side. It's been a constant throughout this season, our players simply switch off at some point. They looked exhausted.

And Pioli with his moronic changes. At least bring in Tonali than Krunic, Brahim or Hauge than the catastrophically awful Castillejo who I cannot fathom anymore.

We were lucky in the end. Inter had so many chances, not to mention the close call on their penalty claim. We got kissed by fate there.

All that being said, it feels so good to finally win another derby!
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Krunic coming in WTF!!
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Shame on that conceded goal. We could have walked in the dressing room with a comfortable lead. But Inter are always dangerous nevertheless every time they attack. We shouldn't be leaving so many open spaces, especially since we're leading.

It's been an enjoyable derby thus far. It could still end up either way, as it did last time.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 17 2020, 12:16 PM) *
Agreed. But all options seem equally bad or risky at most.


It begs the question, what did we sign Brahim and Hauge for then?
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QUOTE (nuh @ Oct 17 2020, 07:34 AM) *
I'd prefer playing Leao on the left. Him and Ibra have a good partnership. I think even better than the Ibra Rebic combo.


Looks like it'll be Leao, which I'm very against. He's trash on the wing.
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Rebic couldn't make it for the derby. It's between Brahim and Castillejo to replace him, with Mediaset for some reason behind my comprehension having Castillejo starting. God have mercy if that'll be the case...
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QUOTE (nuh @ Oct 10 2020, 10:20 AM) *
That’s really unfortunate. I’ve been really impressed with Gabbia’s recent performances. He’s been improving game after game and I think playing with Kjaer, has helped him a lot. I think Kjaer has been helping with positioning and concentration. A little similar to Nesta with T.Silva (obviously to a much lesser extent). I think Gabbia can really turn into a decent squad player, which would be very helpful. A lot of people have the false expectation that if a player comes out of our youth system, they need to be the new Maldini, which shouldn’t be the case. I think if Gabbia turns out to be prime Kaladze it would be really useful.
Is it just me who sees the progress, or do you guys see this too? I feel like on an overall basis he hasn’t been getting enough credit on social media or other forums. He’s bound to make mistakes as he’s only 20, which is really young for a CB. But I really like his calmness which is hard to find with young CB’s.


Romagnoli was 10x better than him at 20.

Gabbia makes too many positioning mistakes. He also is a tad slow and not very strong physically despite being quite tall. I think he would make a decent enough 4th choice, but we absolutely needed someone better to sub Kjaer and Romagnoli.
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