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post Jan 11 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 11 2015, 12:02 PM) *
I couldn't watch the match, was out. Seems they slaughtered us, though. Nothing, though, can be worse than the video below:


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eh27m_

This sickens me. He deserves a big *** fine. What happened to Inzaghi's code of rules. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)


Inter banned Osvaldo because he unleashed angrily at Icardi for not passing the ball. If we don't ban Muntari for such an unacceptable behavior then we have no principles whatsoever.
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post Jan 11 2015, 09:19 PM
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Why did Muntari do that though? Do we know if it's because he was taken off?
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post Jan 11 2015, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jan 11 2015, 08:19 PM) *
Why did Muntari do that though? Do we know if it's because he was taken off?


Yup, that's all it was. He's a c*nt. He looked like a petulant little sh*t as he was walking off then lost it completely. It's one thing to be angry you've been subbed, getting out the frustration is ok like punching a wall or surface, but actually throwing things at other people is simply unnacceptable.
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post Jan 12 2015, 10:33 AM
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If we had won these last two (easy) games we'd be third right now. Bunch of good-for-nothing shits...
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post Jan 12 2015, 02:38 PM
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Maybe there were racist chants towards him ?
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post Jan 12 2015, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 12 2015, 01:38 PM) *
Maybe there were racist chants towards him ?


I don't care if he was called a monkey, c**n and vile black dog, as disgusting those terms are there's no excuse for throwing projectiles around his own dugout, potentially hurting/injuring his own team. Look at how Boateng reacted, Balotelli? Muntari's response was dreadful. He's a disgrace.

And he's been fined anyway, no ban.
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post Jan 12 2015, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 12 2015, 05:01 PM) *
I don't care if he was called a monkey, c**n and vile black dog, as disgusting those terms are there's no excuse for throwing projectiles around his own dugout, potentially hurting/injuring his own team. Look at how Boateng reacted, Balotelli? Muntari's response was dreadful. He's a disgrace.

And he's been fined anyway, no ban.


Well Boateng refused to continue playing when he was racially abused, that was much more drastic action than this. As for your saying that he could have hurt someone, clearly he didn't aim for anyone and he threw the bottle and the jacket in different directions so he wouldn't hit anyone. I think you're being too harsh on him, it's ok for him to be fined 'cos he deserved it, but we have had much more dangerous incidents with our players yet they weren't banned. As far as I'm concerned he is still a Milan player and his rage had nothing to do with our club, nor he humiliated us in any way.
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post Jan 12 2015, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 12 2015, 02:26 PM) *
Well Boateng refused to continue playing when he was racially abused, that was much more drastic action than this.


And was globally praised by everyone.

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As for your saying that he could have hurt someone, clearly he didn't aim for anyone and he threw the bottle and the jacket in different directions so he wouldn't hit anyone. I think you're being too harsh on him, it's ok for him to be fined 'cos he deserved it, but we have had much more dangerous incidents with our players yet they weren't banned. As far as I'm concerned he is still a Milan player and his rage had nothing to do with our club, nor he humiliated us in any way.


You might be alone on that view. I've been far more forgiving of Muntari in recent years than many, but this season he's really done my head in.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 12 2015, 05:33 PM) *
And was globally praised by everyone.


Oh so it only matters what others think ? That's very low 'cos you can't have double standars on the very same issue. You either tollerate (or even praise) players for reacting on racists chants or you fine them. So Boateng was a better player he could have done whatever he wanted ? This makes me think that some people don't give a crap about players personality. If Bonera was black and he reacted same way as Boateng did, would he be praised "globally" ? I strongly doubt it. And it's wrong 'cos racism doesn't aim for the level of player but it aims for the color of their skin.
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 12 2015, 03:26 PM) *
Well Boateng refused to continue playing when he was racially abused, that was much more drastic action than this. As for your saying that he could have hurt someone, clearly he didn't aim for anyone and he threw the bottle and the jacket in different directions so he wouldn't hit anyone. I think you're being too harsh on him, it's ok for him to be fined 'cos he deserved it, but we have had much more dangerous incidents with our players yet they weren't banned. As far as I'm concerned he is still a Milan player and his rage had nothing to do with our club, nor he humiliated us in any way.


So, you think it's fine overreacting in such a spiteful way? He should be ashamed of himself. He gives zero effort when he plays, and gets batshit crazy when he gets subbed. Hypocrite, much?
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post Jan 12 2015, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jan 12 2015, 02:48 PM) *
Oh so it only matters what others think ?


You're the one who raised alternative examples, not me. And at no point did I even imply my feelings one or the other about what others think.

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That's very low 'cos you can't have double standars on the very same issue.


I think calling my opinion on this as 'low' is slightly over the top, don't you think?

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You either tollerate (or even praise) players for reacting on racists chants or you fine them.


Well it entirely depends on the reaction in question. For example, if you wish to further expand the Boateng example, and clearly you do, he kicked the ball at the racists and the whole team walked off. Not just him, but the whole team.

Unfortunately Muntari reacted TO A SUBSTUTION by throwing objects at his team mates. You are the only one who claims this had anything to do with racism.

So the examples couldn't be more different.

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So Boateng was a better player he could have done whatever he wanted ?


Boateng was utterly rubbish for us by the point he did that, but it has absolutely no bearing on judging what he did in response to racism.

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This makes me think that some people don't give a crap about players personality. If Bonera was black and he reacted same way as Boateng did, would he be praised "globally" ?


Yes.

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I strongly doubt it. And it's wrong 'cos racism doesn't aim for the level of player but it aims for the color of their skin.


I...know this?

tbh I'm really not sure what I've done to upset you so much!
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post Jan 12 2015, 05:54 PM
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Dst raised a valuable question. Before making final judgements and exclusive statements we have to be at least well informed, or we end up spitting out paroles.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 12 2015, 04:54 PM) *
Dst raised a valuable question. Before making final judgements and exclusive statements we have to be at least well informed, or we end up spitting out paroles.


I remember after the Napoli match last season Balotelli was seen crying after being subbed. Everyone shouted RACISM and he's been racially abused, where he himself nor the club confirmed this to be true. And we know Balo was not one for being quiet about such a thing.

So I think this is every inch the Muntari who pushed the ref away rather than some reaction to abuse in the crowd.

He's known for being a d*ck, and I had been very lenient on his behaviour in the past, but after his actions this season there's just no more room for it.

Fundementally, Milan have fined him for his reaction to being subbed. Why would Milan fine a player who had just been racially abused? They have not defended him regarding alleged racism.

Because the only one to claim there was racism was D'arc.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 12 2015, 04:54 PM) *
Dst raised a valuable question. Before making final judgements and exclusive statements we have to be at least well informed, or we end up spitting out paroles.


PS: the club fining him puts us in the position you describe: of being well-informed.
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Seriously guys? If there had been anything remotely close to racist abuse it would have been all over the place. Muntari reacted like a tw@t because he got subbed, end of. You could tell he was pissed when he was lazily walking off the pitch. Let's not create conjecture out of thin air.
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