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 Mar 21 2014, 06:34 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay  Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865  |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 21 2014, 08:06 AM)  Italy can be saved, we're beyond repair until Silvio/Galliani go. Hmm. I'm on the fence with this one. For me it's one or the other. If both go, what's the guarantee that we're not looking at a Vincent Tan situation. I sound like an old foggie, but I don't like change if I have no guarantees that the changes will be better. We always make the mistake of assuming things can't get any worse, and then it's surprise mothafucka, shite gets deeper! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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Mar 21 2014, 06:14 PM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 21 2014, 09:34 AM) Hmm. I'm on the fence with this one. For me it's one or the other. If both go, what's the guarantee that we're not looking at a Vincent Tan situation. I sound like an old foggie, but I don't like change if I have no guarantees that the changes will be better. We always make the mistake of assuming things can't get any worse, and then it's surprise mothafucka, shite gets deeper! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Oh but sh!t can get deeper, Im curious to see how far down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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May 1 2014, 09:12 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
It's difficult to understand how a midfield with Pogba, Pirlo and Vidal can't cut it in CL.
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May 1 2014, 10:04 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Poor attempt by Juve. They attacked and attacked but couldn't produce jackshit.
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May 1 2014, 10:08 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Quite unlucky but doesn't it say it all when the Italian champions, the team who are once again running away with the league for the 3rd straight season, can't get past a very average Portuguese side?
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May 1 2014, 10:18 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 1 2014, 10:08 PM) Quite unlucky but doesn't it say it all when the Italian champions, the team who are once again running away with the league for the 3rd straight season, can't get past a very average Portuguese side? Now now han, very average Portuguese side? They're Portuguese champions, will play the Portuguese cup final and EL final. I'd say they're way above average. The problem resides with Juventus themselves. The way they play might work in Serie A, but in two years we've seen that it doesn't cut it in Europe. Conte needs to abolish the 3-5-2 and sign a bunch of attacking midfielders. It's very obvious. |
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May 1 2014, 10:19 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
There was talking in January they wanted Cuadrado and Cerci and move to a 4-3-3 next season. That'd mean Chiellini, Barzagli, Bonucci, Ogbonna and Cacares for just 2 CB spots. I'd take whichever player they sold.
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May 1 2014, 10:24 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2014, 10:19 PM) There was talking in January they wanted Cuadrado and Cerci and move to a 4-3-3 next season. That'd mean Chiellini, Barzagli, Bonucci, Ogbonna and Cacares for just 2 CB spots. I'd take whichever player they sold. If I were in them I'd splash big money and sign Reus. |
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May 1 2014, 10:48 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 1 2014, 10:18 PM) Now now han, very average Portuguese side? They're Portuguese champions, will play the Portuguese cup final and EL final. I'd say they're way above average. The problem resides with Juventus themselves. The way they play might work in Serie A, but in two years we've seen that it doesn't cut it in Europe. Conte needs to abolish the 3-5-2 and sign a bunch of attacking midfielders. It's very obvious. Look at their line-up and compare it to Juve's. Just incomparable difference in quality, yet Juve struggle in both games Benfica are decent, but winning their league and cup really doesn't say much, they were in our CL group last season and we handled them better. Says enough. I think Juve have it too easy in the league and it effects them in Europe, add to that, they've never been a strong European side to begin with. I do think the 3-man CB thing is a stone age system, agreed with you there and there is no reason why they should be using it QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2014, 10:19 PM) There was talking in January they wanted Cuadrado and Cerci and move to a 4-3-3 next season. That'd mean Chiellini, Barzagli, Bonucci, Ogbonna and Cacares for just 2 CB spots. I'd take whichever player they sold. Really Cerci? and Cuadrado? What will buying those 2 achieve? They'll just buy 2 good players who do rather well in the league, which is the same as half of their current roster. All that would accomplish would be to keep them at the same level while weakening 2 Serie A sides. Like x-off suggested, they need some top class names in order to elevate themselves to the next level and compete seriously in the CL next season. Buying those 2 wouldn't accomplish anything, in fact if I were a Juve fan, I'd see signing those 2 as a step backwards for a club that's aiming for more than just running away with the domestic league by January |
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May 2 2014, 12:01 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ May 1 2014, 10:48 PM) Benfica are decent, but winning their league and cup really doesn't say much, they were in our CL group last season and we handled them better. Says enough. What? No, they weren't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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May 2 2014, 06:16 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 2 2014, 03:18 AM) Now now han, very average Portuguese side? They're Portuguese champions, will play the Portuguese cup final and EL final. I'd say they're way above average. Exactly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Way above average, and a good team overall, Benfica. QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 2 2014, 03:18 AM) The problem resides with Juventus themselves. The way they play might work in Serie A, but in two years we've seen that it doesn't cut it in Europe. Conte needs to abolish the 3-5-2 and sign a bunch of attacking midfielders. It's very obvious. Very true. But I'm not sure they will. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Juventus have a certain mindset in place for a few years now, where they don't go for top world talent as readily as they stuff their squad with good to average names. And frankly my dear, I don't mind that. If it were any other Italian club (save for Udinese) I'd be supporting them. And they probably could have have put in a better performance, really, yesterday had it come to it. |
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May 2 2014, 09:35 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Italy just slipped into 5th place in the UEFA ranking, behind Portugal. Oh my...
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May 2 2014, 10:15 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 2 2014, 02:35 PM) Italy just slipped into 5th place in the UEFA ranking, behind Portugal. Oh my... Sad, but expected. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) |
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May 2 2014, 10:58 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 2 2014, 12:01 AM) What? No, they weren't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Really? I could have sworn they were... Oops (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) never mind... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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May 2 2014, 10:58 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ May 2 2014, 10:15 AM) Sad, but expected. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) It's sad because it could have easily been avoided had Italian clubs taken the EL/UEFA Cup more seriously in the past |
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