[han2503]

Paloschi isn't exactly a poacher à la Pazzini/Inzaghi. He's more technically gifted, and I really think we should bring him back, regardless of what formation we play.

I don't think he's that technically gifted. No, he's not Pippo levels of bad on the ball, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Pippo was barely a footballer, he was just someone who scored for fun.

But I do think he's on the same level as Pazzo, he's not going to pick the ball up in midfield and dribble, he won't rotate with the 3 behind him, sure he can make a good pass and even better see it. But that's about it. All things Pazzo can do as well.

I just think it would be a total waste to bring him back and then let him waste away on the bench while his price drops to peanuts. Especially when we have a good opportunity to sell him for good money and bring in someone for the positions that do need to improve

[TriniKing_CE]

Let's get a poll out of this... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Should we bring back Paloschi back back or sell him?

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Btw...

I'm really sorry I resurrected this topic in the wrong thread now, look at all the out out of place discussion & debate I have caused! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

You're looking at teams of a previous generation of football and players. These days which side that deploys a 4-2-3-1 plays with a poacher up front? All of the sides play a more technically gifted type of striker. Pazzini is the perfect example of a poacher, which is why he's struggling in the team atm imo

Bayern? Ajax? Plenty, as far as I know. Only Barcelona tend to avoid any kind of poacher. And well, this isn't a historical system I'm mentioning, it's still quite effective.

Paloschi isn't exactly a poacher à la Pazzini/Inzaghi. He's more technically gifted, and I really think we should bring him back, regardless of what formation we play.

Right.

I don't think he's that technically gifted. No, he's not Pippo levels of bad on the ball, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Pippo was barely a footballer, he was just someone who scored for fun.

But I do think he's on the same level as Pazzo, he's not going to pick the ball up in midfield and dribble, he won't rotate with the 3 behind him, sure he can make a good pass and even better see it. But that's about it. All things Pazzo can do as well.

I just think it would be a total waste to bring him back and then let him waste away on the bench while his price drops to peanuts. Especially when we have a good opportunity to sell him for good money and bring in someone for the positions that do need to improve

I think it's a total waste investing into Pazzini. Don't get me wrong, I kind of like Pazzo - but he ain't getting any younger or better. While with Paloschi we have a true Milan product that should IMO get at least a chance. It's not that we're filled with stars in attack or something. One leaves (for example Balo) and another get's a month or two injury (SES) and here we are with Paloschi playing more.

And don't say that injuries are an unpredictable thing. With Milan has become traditional.

[Fillipo Simone]

Let's get a poll out of this... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

Should we bring back Paloschi back back or sell him?

...


Btw...

I'm really sorry I resurrected this topic in the wrong thread now, look at all the out out of place discussion & debate I have caused! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Naah, don't bother man, it's not a problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

Naah, don't bother man, it's not a problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[han2503]

Bayern? Ajax? Plenty, as far as I know. Only Barcelona tend to avoid any kind of poacher. And well, this isn't a historical system I'm mentioning, it's still quite effective.

I wouldn't call Mandzukic a poacher personally speaking...

I think the last team who played a true poacher in a 4-2-3-1 and it really worked were Inter with Milito

I think it's a total waste investing into Pazzini. Don't get me wrong, I kind of like Pazzo - but he ain't getting any younger or better. While with Paloschi we have a true Milan product that should IMO get at least a chance. It's not that we're filled with stars in attack or something. One leaves (for example Balo) and another get's a month or two injury (SES) and here we are with Paloschi playing more.

And don't say that injuries are an unpredictable thing. With Milan has become traditional.

Well if we manage to sell both Pazzo and Matri for decent money than I'm more than okay with bringing in Palo as the replacement. But we absolutely need to sell those 2. If we plan on keeping them then Palo has to be sold imo while he's doing well so we can get a good price

[Fillipo Simone]

I wouldn't call Mandzukic a poacher personally speaking...

I think the last team who played a true poacher in a 4-2-3-1 and it really worked were Inter with Milito


Well if we manage to sell both Pazzo and Matri for decent money than I'm more than okay with bringing in Palo as the replacement. But we absolutely need to sell those 2. If we plan on keeping them then Palo has to be sold imo while he's doing well so we can get a good price

A true poacher is a lost or almost lost art. But IMO Mandzukic comes very close to this. And I still think this system can be implemented with success. It's not that I suggested we play a libero or a goalie-player!?

I think we should keep SES, Balo, Pazzo and Palo as our options. Considering our luck, we'll need all four at some point. Obviously, Robinho and Matri should be sold for good.

[han2503]

A true poacher is a lost or almost lost art. But IMO Mandzukic comes very close to this. And I still think this system can be implemented with success. It's not that I suggested we play a libero or a goalie-player!?

I think we should keep SES, Balo, Pazzo and Palo as our options. Considering our luck, we'll need all four at some point. Obviously, Robinho and Matri should be sold for good.

If you have the right players behing him and the player knows how to play in such a system than yes. Bayern have so many options and so many creative players it's ridiculous, you can't really compare, and personally I don't really see Mandzukic as being so close to what a true poacher is.

I think when deciding who stays or goes we really need to look at the big picture.

First off, is Seedorf going to be staying? If we do bring in another coach then the 4-2-3-1 might be axed, which would make us look at our striking options in a completely different light

But looking at it from a 4-2-3-1 perspective. Those 6 players you mentioned would all have very different roles

SES wouldn't be considered as a striker, I think he'll be on the left wing. Same goes for Robinho.

Technically speaking, counting Matri in the equation, we have 4 options for 1 single position, with SES also being capable of playing up front if we have our hands tied. I think we need to sell 2 out of Pazzo, Palo, Matri. I think having 4 players for that position is overkill, especially when we have such a large squad, need the money and will most likely be playing in only 2 competitions next season. Yes injuries will most likely flare up, but we won't have such a huge fixture list to contend with next season.

As for Robinho (who can also play up front if we do have our hands tied), if the opportunity to sell him comes up then we should jump on it. But we'll have to replace him with another winger/AM preferably a winger as we don't know in what capacity Kaka will be able to continue playing at as of yet.