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Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2015, 10:42 AM

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2015, 12:33 PM

Kucka is apparently injured for this one (that ankle twist he got against Palermo is still bothering him)

So that's already a forced change... I was really hoping to see Bona moved to AM here but I guess that won't be happening now, unless Poli takes Kucka's spot

Maybe go for something along these lines

Although I have read that Monto and Zapata could be dropped along with Adriano

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 21 2015, 01:40 PM

Mediaset line up: Diego Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; Poli, Montolivo, Bonaventura; Honda; Balotelli, Bacca.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2015, 01:49 PM

Man, he's really sticking with Honda isn't he?

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 21 2015, 02:41 PM

Sadly. Either play Bonaventura there or give Suso a chance.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2015, 02:46 PM

Don't think Suso will do any better than Honda tbh

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 21 2015, 10:25 PM

We don't know that yet. I still have faith in him, but he has to be given a real chance, that is, a few consecutive games instead of sporadic appearances once every blue moon.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:26 AM

I just don't see him being able to cut it in the AM position. He's too lightweight and generally tends to go missing when playing behind the strikers.

I know that the excuse that he's never gotten any continuity is a legitimate one, but so far when he has been given the chance, he gave no indications that he could cut it in that position, not even miniscule ones.

For me, our AM options are Menez, Bonaventura, Honda, Balo, Suso. In that order.

I'm a bit sceptical about Menez being able to cut out some of the more infuriating aspects of his game, but if he can at the least minimize them, he'd be our best option for that position against most sides in Serie A, with Bona being the more conservative first choice against more difficult sides

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 11:12 AM

Gazzetta probable line-up, looks good aside from Honda.

Probable #ACMilan Xl v. Udi: Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; De Jong, Montolivo, Bonaventura; Honda; Bacca, Balotelli. #GdS

However, in the press conference Miha did say that he won't be using De Jong and Monto together... So don't know how accurate this could be

Anyone got the mediaset prediction?

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 11:22 AM

It's the same as Gazzetta's.

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 22 2015, 12:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQzKTC0noY

I guess no away support tonight... look at that right hand side

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 12:57 PM

Can't watch atm, what's going on?

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 22 2015, 01:46 PM

there stadium is pretty much 90% built just the right hand side is just not there still being built i mean.
im guessing thats the away support end though..

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 01:46 PM

nice atmosphere there!

but, umm maybe no Palermo fans came? I'm not too sure about the geography...but yeah there are no seats.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 01:48 PM

They'll probably move the away support to another area. It's highly unlikely that that match is sold out anyway

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 03:25 PM

Pretty sure the picture you posted is Bologna's stadium, Han.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 04:35 PM

Fixed. Thanks x-off

Really difficult to find a proper pic of the new stadium so added the 3D illustration

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:19 PM

Official: Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; De Jong, Montolivo, Bonaventura; Honda; Balotelli, Bacca.

Looks good

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:20 PM

OFFICIAL

Milan (4-3-1-2) Diego Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; De Jong, Montolivo, Bonaventura; Honda; Balotelli, Bacca

Udinese (3-5-2): Karnezis; Wague, Domizzi, Piris; Edenilson, Badu, Iturra, Fernandes, Ali Adnan; Thereau, Di Natale

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:20 PM

lineup looks good on paper, hopefully it will project well on the ground.

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:20 PM

ninja'd me ^^

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:22 PM

Well, this is exactly the type of game I've been talking about. If we win these games we SHOULD in theory be in a good position to get into the EL. Losing points here would be a major hit for us.

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:30 PM

Indeed, I think it will be tough!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:32 PM

Yep, Udine will not want to lose 4 on the bounce

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:43 PM

WTF are we wearing?

Isn't our 3rd kit black??

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:46 PM

yeah this is our 3rd kit :'(


where is everyone btw ^^

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:47 PM

Udine are going to be very agressive

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:50 PM

Nice cut and run from De Sciglio!

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:50 PM

Yep..you can feel it!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:51 PM

BALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:51 PM

OMG balooooo!!! awesome free kick!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:54 PM

Honda is such a soar spot for me atm, every touch he's making is bad

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:56 PM

BONAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rip Sep 22 2015, 07:56 PM

Great pass

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:56 PM

Beautiful

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:56 PM

wowowow beautiful pass from monto and cool finish from bona!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:57 PM

De Jong working his Rino role perfectly atm

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 07:58 PM

anyone has a good stream?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 07:59 PM

http://cricfree.tv/football-live-stream

Check there

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 08:01 PM

thanks

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 08:12 PM

Nice from Honda..Bacca should've done much better there.

Posted by: rip Sep 22 2015, 08:17 PM

I think we should sub Mario Before he is sent off

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 08:21 PM

can't agree more! luiz is much better at holding up the ball too!

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 22 2015, 08:27 PM

why hes being played i don't know , maybe its to do with his contract , hes so bad..

although he nearly set Bacca up for the third goal but somehow Bacca missed his chance apart from that Honda is crap.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 08:29 PM

Honda seriously making a mess of everything atm

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 08:31 PM

ZAPATAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 08:32 PM

Great header from Zapata

Posted by: rip Sep 22 2015, 08:33 PM

I disagree on the Liuz part. Technically Mario is gifted. He is playing well. But our opponents are pushing him around and he is lashing back. Although he is more calmer than before

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 08:43 PM

Luiz should still come on, but not yet. Balo is doing okay so far

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 08:47 PM

Very good first half. The only bad player has been Honda, as usual.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 08:52 PM

Alex on for Calabria, Miha probably taking a precaution because of the yellow.

This kid is special though, really talented

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 08:54 PM

Udine Goal...

That shift in the defence unsettled the players

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:01 PM

FFS!!!

Why can't we kill a game off??!!

2-3

That change in defence was a kiss of death for us. Watch us lose points now

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:04 PM

Pull Honda out of there FFS!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:06 PM

Finally! Poli on for Honda

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 09:07 PM

We have a terrible, terrible defense. And I don't mean individually, but collectively.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:11 PM

It goes beyond the defence imo

They invited pressure on themselves and once they gave Udine that sniff in the door was wide open for them

The defence was doing okay before Miha made the shift with Alex

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:13 PM

Even now, we're still inviting that pressure. Suddenly we can't hold onto the ball

We simply do not know how to play like a top side anymore.

Over these last 5 years or so that trait was beaten right our of this team.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 09:19 PM

We crumble under pressure. As soon as Udinese put an extra man in attack and started pressing high, we lost it.

Posted by: rip Sep 22 2015, 09:20 PM

Bacca has got zero service this match. Except for that Honda run

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:33 PM

Why is the Udine player gunning to cross for nearly 30 seconds and Poli does not close him down FFS??!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:34 PM

Miha needs to kick some serious @ss after this one!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:38 PM

FT

I'm actually p!ssed off at this!

Disgusting second half and the wasting of time near the corner flag was just appalling

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 09:38 PM

FT, 3 points. I swear Milan will give me a heart attack someday.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 09:39 PM

We're a shitty teams guys, there's no other way of looking at it. Horrible second half.

Posted by: rip Sep 22 2015, 09:39 PM

Messy end to the match.

Still needs a lot of work

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 09:41 PM

True. I felt we really controlled better the match through the first half, but we conceded goals and started our march backwards.

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 09:41 PM

Too pessimistic, nope won't take that.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:41 PM

Honda better not get any games any time soon.

That switch around in defence was not only useless but stupid. Sure Calabria was on a yellow but he was doing well, switching Zapata on the right and bringing in Alex was a huge mistake.

The general mentality of this team is what's truly terrible, not the players themselves as individuals. We play like minnows, even when we should be cruising, we're so mentally fragile we simply crumble at the first sign of pressure from the opposition.

Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 22 2015, 09:48 PM

I'm so glad about the result cause it's 3 points and we are up the table but alot of work needs to be done and I was shocked after leaving the room at HT at 3-0 to come down again and see it's 3-2

4th in the league let's not be too pessimistic but not much to be optimistic about

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2015, 09:57 PM

Well, 4th for now, considering all the other teams are still yet to play. Expecting Inter, Juve, Fiorentina, Napoli to win for sure tomorrow

Can't wait to read what Miha has to say about this one. He looked like he was about to sh!t a brick out there

Posted by: William405 Sep 22 2015, 10:00 PM

Agreed. Two early goals and we were playing quite well in the first half. No need to be pissed though, at least we played football even if for one half!! The mentality thing will come, it's a progressive thing.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2015, 10:01 PM

Totally forgot we were playing today. At least we got the three points.

Posted by: Suhail 3 Sep 22 2015, 10:02 PM

I'd also like to add that when Tottenham were rumoured to be interested in Honda that we just sold him

Posted by: amancik Sep 22 2015, 10:03 PM

I missed the game. Another 3 points. I'll take that. As I was reading the comment sections in live commentaries, apparently taking off Calabria and putting Alex changed the game completely. Do you guys feel the same way?

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 10:07 PM

I don't think that changed the game. It was Udinese changing their mentality and us hiding like cowards that made the difference.

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 22 2015, 10:08 PM

So we are winning and conceding many goals...

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2015, 10:09 PM

We have the second worst defense (8) after Lazio and Carpi (10).

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 22 2015, 11:26 PM

Sinisa Mihajlovic reveals he warned Milan of an Udinese comeback at half-time and hailed “perfect” Mario Balotelli.

The Rossoneri were 3-0 up at the break, yet eventually scraped a 3-2 result at the Stadio Friuli.

“The first half was good, it was one-way traffic and we were 3-0 up. As I told the lads at half-time, unfortunately teams last 90 minutes and not 45, so we have to continue with the same spirit,” the Coach told Sky Sport Italia and Mediaset Premium.

“We immediately conceded a goal, the anxiety and fear set in and I think this is part of the growth process. We must learn to deal with these situations better.

“The second half was let’s say less enjoyable for us, but at least the crowd enjoyed it. Naturally we cannot score three goals every game to win. A 1-0 would be nice occasionally.

“There are things we need to improve, but these lads had a rough two or three years, so every now and then these nightmares spring up again to haunt them.

“We’ve proved that when we play the right way, we are a great team. The objective was to win without conceding. We won, but conceded twice.”

The goals arrived straight after Milan substituted 18-year-old right-back Davide Calabria.

“I changed Calabria because Udinese were pouring forward and had very tall players, so with that many free kicks and crosses, I preferred Alex to give us more aerial power. Calabria had a good game, it was purely a tactical move.”

Balotelli got the opening goal on his first start for Milan since arriving on loan from Liverpool.

“He had an excellent game, holding up the ball and putting up with a lot of fouls, never reacting. He was always sharp, proved he’s back to being the real Balotelli and that he knows how to control the provocation. He was perfect.

“Tonight he was man of the match, both in terms of his moves and his attitude. It’s not easy to have the entire crowd against you all the time. I am happy, but t’s just the beginning.

“His talent was never in doubt, it was an issue of the mind. The defenders beat him up because he’s good, but he scores goals anyway.

“We talked and I had to look him in the eye to know if what he said was real. So far his behaviour has been perfect and on the field he made the difference tonight. He needs to be consistent, training well, behaving well and playing well.

“I’ll make sure he sticks to the right path.”

Football italia

http://www.football-italia.net/73352/mihajlovic-perfect-balotelli


Good words sinore Mihajlovic ! I wish he would tell us why he prefers Honda though...


Goal.com rating

Keisuke Honda – 5– Mediocre

The Japanese midfielder was very poor in possession and didn’t occupy the positions necessary to help Milan attack more fluidly.

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 22 2015, 11:28 PM

haha anyone notice this too im sure you did

http://video.gazzetta.it/udinese-milan-mihajlovic-da-calcio-balotelli/8ea476c2-6173-11e5-9f3a-4cc00eccd581

Posted by: William405 Sep 23 2015, 05:20 AM

Haha yeah

Posted by: William405 Sep 23 2015, 05:44 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmnpUaPicRg All goals.


Regarding the first goal these are my thoughts: Everyone's pretty much blaming Zapata on that goa, but I wouldn't be too harsh him honestly because he had just changed his position, and it's not his most ideal position. In addition to that, that first goal was just a shutdown from the whole team, not the defense. I'm rewatching it, and Romagnoli was man marking, and so was Alex. Badu came from outside the box just strolling around with no one from the midfield closing him down. It might have been also better for the defenders to mark zonally there...I don't know though, it happened pretty fast and Romagnoli tried to close it down. But, yeah wouldn't say Zapata was responsible for it in my opinion, fullbacks always leak crosses, it happens. Also, the second goal was totally not Zapata's fault either.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 23 2015, 09:58 AM

Badu should have been marked by Montolivo there.

I was thinking last night, how this Milan is very similar to Allegri's Milan, only then we had Nesta and Siva in defense that made the difference, and Ibra in attack who basically did everything. We had a shitty midfield full of has-been's and mediocre players, just like now. We could barely keep possession, it was mostly long balls to Ibra hoping he could pull something out of his butt.

Nothing has really changed between then and now, except for Ibra and Silva not being part of the team anymore.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 23 2015, 10:22 AM

So what's the problem then? Again the coach? Or are you willing to listen to me now and finally realize that partly it's the players who've been under this bad mentality and negative coaching approach for too long i.e. are spoiled for Milan permanently?

Posted by: Forza Milan! Sep 23 2015, 11:50 AM

I am actually positively impressed by Miha so far. Unlike our previous coach, he is willing to admit to problems and seems to be doing something to solve them. I agree that there is a problem with mentality, but I disagree players have been ruined "permanently". Mentality issues are not normally changed overnight, we need to have a little patience here (if we still have this same problem in a few months, then it probably is deeper). There also clearly is a problem with the quality of players we have, particularly in midfield. That cannot be changed by the coach, our best hope is to see something in the Winter transfer window. However, I am not optimistic that Galliani will be able to do much (in fact, I have a feeling he does not even understand how serious the problem really is).

Posted by: William405 Sep 23 2015, 12:17 PM

Why Montolivo though? The whole midfield was absent there! This is my point, we totally turn off for a second and boom we concede a silly goal.

I thought we actually played good(maybe the word okay is more appropriate) football during the first half. We played it smart and controlled the match at our own pace when we were up 2-0.

The midfield overall is pretty meh, but if yesterday's combination clicks then I think it's okay for now.

Also yeah, it doesn't compare to Allegri's Milan..we had world class forwards and world class defenders.

Posted by: William405 Sep 23 2015, 12:25 PM

Also another thing, Miha was impressed by Balo yesterday, and so was I don't get me wrong. But, I think we play as much more of a team without him. It's the same when Ibra was around.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 23 2015, 01:20 PM

I've told you before, players and mentality go hand in hand. If we had signed the likes of Witsel and Gündogan in midfield, not only we'd have more quality, but we'd also have a different approach. Instead, relying on the likes of Kucka, Poli, Honda etc. doesn't really help you in that regard.

The truth is that we've had a shitty midfield for a very long time now, and a great midfield is the key to success. You can have an average defense and decent strikers, but a top quality midfield can make the whole team perform. Including mentality-wise, as well.



Because that's his position, the area he should be covering. If you look at the goal again, he's close to Badu but he completely ignores him, letting him run inside the box undisturbed.

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 23 2015, 04:09 PM

Look further back to where that goal started Bacca lost the ball near the half way line trying to hold it up lost out and bam concdeded poession where he could have just passed it to safety he was the fault from the start.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 23 2015, 04:12 PM

That's going overboard. We're talking about who's defensive fault it was.

Posted by: William405 Sep 23 2015, 05:33 PM

Let's not put the blame on someone in particular. The whole midfield should have shifted faster towards the defense. That's my opinion anyway. The whole positioning was wrong.

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 23 2015, 06:36 PM

Yeah i realise that man , but for me it was him ( Bacca ) that first gave the possession but i agree who was ultimately at fault with the goal after that but one thing leads to another is what im trying to get at. Its not fair to blame just one person it was a team out there. They should all trust each other , but not to the point where they think there team mate won't make a mistake like what happened. Anyway abit to much over analysis from me ill shut up

Posted by: han2503 Sep 23 2015, 08:14 PM

Like I said during the game, this team does not know how to play like a top side any longer, that trait was beaten out of them over these last 5 years.

You have to look back to Allegri's first season, and you were the one who first pointed it out. When we were wasting time during the 60th minute of games, basically acting like a bunch of pansy-@ss mid-table nobodies, whereas in the past under Carlo we were used to watching the team control the game for the entire 90, no matter what, we rarely lost our cool (aside from 2 huge games in the CL that is but let's not open that can of worms )

We simply do not know how to close a game out and approach each situation with confidence. When Allegri was here we still had great players to rely on, the issue there for me has always been all coach. Then we lost all the great players, replaced them with average nobodies Allegri already being a huge problem had no answers to losing his game changers and we spiralled from there, all the while the team had already been instilled with a terrible mid-table approach to games. Then 2 rookie coaches came in Pippo being the worst thing that could have happened to us when we were already in a terribly vulnerably state.

Now, we have a new coach who is actually demanding things from his players, we have fresh blood in the team, some of it being of the top class variety (Bacca imo is just that) some of it being good. We still have very obvious issues in terms of quality in midfield and we're missing one top CB. But overall when you look at the whole picture, we still generally play weaker sides in Serie A, who do not boast half the talent that we do and we still struggle. Again it's a mentality thing, x-off is right when saying that bringing in great players would have already made a huge difference in this regard. Top players bring with them so many great aspect to the team as a whole, not just as individuals.

The issues with mentality aren't going to change like the flip of a switch though. It will take time, and I do think that Miha can get them to start believing in themselves again, something which I think was completely gone last season. But again, it's not going to happen over night or after a couple of wins.


Agreed


Monto should have marked him better. But again, we're conceding these type of goals when all of them are avoidable, like last week with Guarin, why he wasn't closed down or heck, even hacked down to the ground earlier is beyond me.

Or like when the opposition gets to our by-line and the FB or mid (whoever's supposed to be marking the crosser) and they just stand there yards ahead of him, instead of quickly closing him down and narrowing the space for him to make the cross. Just ridiculous, I was watching Poli do this around the 85th minutes while we were barely holding on and I wanted to chuck something at the screen


Agreed. Case in point Juve when they took the title right out from under us

Posted by: han2503 Sep 23 2015, 08:16 PM

Btw, can I just ask? Where did that fugly, awful kit we were playing in yesterday come from?? Wasn't our third kit black this season?

Posted by: William405 Sep 23 2015, 09:40 PM

This is the new one. It's awful, I know.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 24 2015, 02:20 PM

I actually checked the kits images that I posted myself, and apparently the third is green this season and I actually liked it, but those shorts and socks make it look ridiculous

Posted by: William405 Sep 24 2015, 07:53 PM

Yep, it's the shorts that are downright bad!

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 25 2015, 10:07 AM

Genoa thread, Han?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 25 2015, 02:48 PM

Will open it now