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Posted by: han2503 May 6 2017, 03:52 PM

Honestly, with the way we've been playing I can't see anything other than a loss

And tbh, I can't wait to get this season over and done with so we can see the new team start to shape up. The season is a lost cause anyway, EL or not won't make much of a difference

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 6 2017, 07:12 PM

Actually EL is very important especially if your going to expect the club to realistically acquire quality players. Europe in general is where this team should aim, regardless of the recent setbacks.

I can see the team draw this game, maybe snatch 3 points if the game goes our way. It would be a shame if the lads throw this one away. Afterall Milan has done well against the stronger teams this season.

Yes I find this team to be thin and low on quality when compared to the opponent. And this game should be played as a CL final; Roma want to secure CL and Milan want a EL participation.

Posted by: han2503 May 6 2017, 10:05 PM

You really think EL participation matters to any player? CL is what's important to them, they don't care if they get to play in the EL because it's a third rate competition that no one really cares much about

And if it is true that playing in some summer friendly in Asia will net us more cash than a deep run into the EL next season then I say it's better if we don't play in it

Posted by: Danny May 6 2017, 10:54 PM

Agreed with Han. For less ambitious clubs UEL is fine, but for a Milan, a Real, a Man Utd it's nowhere. And it won't help us attract anything better than what we have.

If a player has to choose between an EPL team with no Europe or Milan with UEL they'll choose EPL nearly every time.

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 12:24 PM

Agreed, and it also depends on how much money you offer them (in which case the EPL team would still be able to come out on top)

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 7 2017, 06:13 PM

It goes without saying CL>EL.

But you dont move from elimentary to highschool in one go. This team will take time to rebuild and the EL is a platform as the opponents in EL will give our team practice.

Then there is other factors that come into play.

It is not a matter of my opinion or yours. It is that of the players you try to lure. So having incremental improvements by landing a small bridge into Europe is better than just Serie A.

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 07:36 PM

I don't think playing in EL gives Milan anything. Milan right now has 2 options. Spend big and smart a la Berlusconi during the 80's because let's be honest,
Milan wont escape this level of mediocrity by just waiting for a miracle. Or Milan can just wait for that miracle squad that's been formed by cut and paste and in the process is being demoted
to a mid table team.

I just hope this nightmare will end soon and the new owners can re-create the meravigliosi team I miss.

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 07:56 PM

Goal Dzeko ...

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 07:57 PM

Nice one Vangioni and Zapata...

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 08:00 PM

How I wish we could score a goal like that ...

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:03 PM

Thought that went in

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:06 PM

Getting run over atm, and most of it is our fault for losing the ball in dangerous areas in the midfield

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:07 PM

What a save from Donna on that Perroti shot

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 08:07 PM

Roma playing well while we play for that lucky pass to end well

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:10 PM

Honestly, atm it feel like Inter and Milan are competing to see who can get out of that 6th place. The way we're playing without effort and watching Inter this afternoon, I can't help but think that

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:13 PM

What a shot from Dzeko though for that goal

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:16 PM

Dzeko again

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 08:16 PM

Dzeko again ... This is painful to watch

Posted by: Ry4n May 7 2017, 08:17 PM

END THIS SEASON NOW!

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:17 PM

From having one of the best defences in the league about a month ago to this

Zapata and Paletta are really workin' for it

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:18 PM

Well this is what happens when you play an opponent that has Radja, Paredes, De Rossi in midfield while we have Pasalic and Sosa...

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 08:30 PM

Roma twice against the post...

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:32 PM

Honestly, we should just head straight for the showers at HT, forfeit the match as that would be less embarrassing

Posted by: Ry4n May 7 2017, 08:35 PM

We should just end the season.

Posted by: X-Offender May 7 2017, 08:37 PM

Put the stream on, game was 0-1, thought I'd keep watching. Roma scores the second, F*CK THIS SH*T!

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 08:41 PM

If only we could...

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:05 PM

The Guy who wasnt good enough for Milan comes on

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:11 PM

My god , Paletta's face like he's controlling the defence makes me wanna punch him

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:20 PM

PASALIC

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:20 PM

If we get points out of this match ...

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:20 PM

Have to say, Pasalic is generally a ghost in the midfield but the dude can score

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:22 PM

Well, he's good enough to do that

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:22 PM

And "mister not good enough" makes it 1-3

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:23 PM

Literally gave him ages to set that shot up, honestly I don't know wtf they're doing, it's like they've forgotten how to even do the basics these past 2 months

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:24 PM

Yep, another talent discarded by our management just so we could play the likes of Niang and Menez

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:24 PM

Menez was good , no ?

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:25 PM

How is this not 1-7 ???

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:30 PM

Red for Paletta. Get the hell off you piece of Sh!t

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:30 PM

Oh the shame!

Switched it off, can't stomach anymore of this.

Posted by: han2503 May 7 2017, 09:31 PM

He was good for a season and then he's wasn't anymore.

Posted by: Nova May 7 2017, 09:35 PM

Game over... I cant stand the players anymore

Posted by: Danny May 7 2017, 09:37 PM

Limp. This isn't Milan. Hasn't been for a while.

Posted by: X-Offender May 7 2017, 09:37 PM

Guys, why even submit yourself to such a chore? Stop watching games, the season is well over.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 7 2017, 09:50 PM

Indeed.

But I gotta say, Montella is doing a hell of a job for the new management to reconsider his position for next season.

Posted by: X-Offender May 7 2017, 10:02 PM

Montella or the players?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 7 2017, 10:18 PM

All together. Sure, the players have been the main let-down, but hell - Montella is also responsible. For picking the same ****-up's like Paletta, for not motivating the team obviously, etc.

Posted by: Danny May 7 2017, 10:29 PM

Yeah, I'm absolutely done with Montella. I thought he did a great job earlier this season but starting to wonder how much of that was just Suso in great individual form. Plus those pre-match comments lavishing praise all over Roma and the fact we've been absolute mince since that 'win' over Crotone at the San Siro...

I'm done.

I'm done with the whole Milan regime and until a new manager and a new squad comes in, there's just no point.

Posted by: Danny May 7 2017, 10:30 PM

It's like masochism, and I don't know why I bother. So I think I'm done with this season now. Unless there is literally nothing better to do and it's on TV, I won't bother.

And if Montella is still at Milan with the same squad, next season is a bust too.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP May 7 2017, 10:31 PM

Seeing how Inter lost too, how can't we see that we dont want to go to Europe League ?

Posted by: han2503 May 9 2017, 12:30 PM

What line-up do you expect him to put out? Honestly, I don't know what you guys want from this man, he has done the best he can with a really bad bunch of players which in general are just a bad mix put together by a guy iving on shady connections to clubs and agents.

Montella literally has no one on the bench that he could call upon (and please don't mention Bacca, he's become static and useless this season), he's without two of his best players, and when your sqaud is already thin, that cripples you

You know, you can blame him for playing Paletta all you want but he's generally speaking been decent this season, and had Montella dropped him and played Gomez instead who could have also made mistakes (let's face it) then you would have complained too

We've lost our starting RB, moved our starting LB to the right, lost our backup LB and are playing our 3rd choice in that position

Same thing in the CB position, our best CB has been in and out of the team with injuries, the guy who was sort of reliable at the start of the season has gone diabolical, and our backup options are simply not trustworthy at all.

Our midfield has been a joke all season, but at least we had a guy like Bona who always showed up and had moments of brilliance in him, we've been without him for the entire second part of the season and his loss has been greatly felt

Same thing in attack, Suso was great at the start, but weariness has surely set in when he's played nearly all the games this season minus 2 or 3 through injury. Bacca who was good last season has been asbolute cr@p this season

With all this and you're still blaming things on Montella. He's done all he can considering the bad card he was dealt all season long.


Danny, I think you're being a bit overly dramatical. You of all people should be on his side, and let me tell you why, at the start of this season when we were doing so well, you constantly questioned when the run would stop, because you knew that at some point it would have to because we were playing far beyond any expectations anyone could have built up.

Guess what, you were right, it did stop, mostly due to fatigue and injuries. Montella could only have done so much this season and imo he has achieved what he could from a bad mix and jumble of players.

Suso was only part of the success we had in that first half of the season, Bona was also a big part, same thing with our defence, which up until a few weeks ago was the third best in the league. Kucka was also performing much better than he is now and Bacca was at least still trying

We were lucky during that first half of the season, do doubt about that, we had the bounce of the ball going our way, we managed to keep our players all fit for a long stretch, now it's been the complete opposite of that, we've had bad luck in games and we've lost some of our most important players. If anything, Montella has done weel to mitigate the damages and keep us in the hunt for the EL spot

Also, I think you're being premature in judging the regime in general, the new management have barely been able to hang pictures on their office walls at Casa Milan, but we've been hearing about their contant work since day one

So I urge all of you guys to have a little faith here, we#re in for a busy summer and this team will look radically different next season.

If Montella is given the tools to work with and he still fails, then we can all call for his head, until then I think you're being rash in your assesments of him. And if the new management doesn't deliver this summer we can all start thinking about jumping ship, but until then, let's all just have a little faith, we've stuck around this long, another season won't kill anyone

Posted by: Danny May 10 2017, 02:19 AM

I am fed up with my teams being shite. 5 years of this dross with both Milan and Rangers - it's self flagellation. PS I wasn't including the new owners in my judgement. But as I also said unless we overhaul this atrocity I was done - and if we do overhaul it then good. Because I can't stand any more of this crap. I stand by everything I said. There's only so much suffering it's mentally healthy to withstand before you need to walk away for the sake of your sanity.

Posted by: han2503 May 10 2017, 08:43 AM

I understand, because you've had a double dose of mediocrity at the same time.

Having said that, don't you think that right now, the moment is perfect to finally get on board the 'hope train' again? (at least for Milan, don't know how Rangers are doing these days tbh)

We've finally gotten rid of Silvio and Galliani, Silvio was an inactive, disinterested owner who was no longer willing to support the club financially, and Galliani was a shady, corrupt, senile fool still living in his glory days of the 80s

This team is buried under the pile of cr@p shoved on it by Galliani himself, we're not going to dig out of it in an instant, but the necessary steps have been taken, namely removing the problems (B&G) and bringing in professional people to do the job.

We have players on this team that don't deserve to wear the shirt, and you're right, it is masochistic to watch the likes of Paletta/Zapata/Vangion/Kucka/Pasalic/Sosa/etc defiling the shirt we all love, but we have 3 games left of this season. The summer is shaping up to be a promising one and next season we'll be starting fresh, with a completely different side and a coach who has shown that he can produce.

That's what makes me hopeful for the future of Milan

Posted by: Nova May 10 2017, 11:43 AM

In the meantime another not good enough ex-trainer is playing the CL final , twice now ...

Posted by: Danny May 10 2017, 11:53 AM

Had hope crushed too many times to want to have any this time. My stance is I assume the worst, and if something better arrives then oorah! Don't necessarily disagree with a lot of what you say but equally being a Milan supporter is a byword for disappointment these days.

As for Rangers, not really that different to Milan in context. Just like Milan we lost essentially our entire first team squad in 2012 for financial reasons, and just like Milan rebuilt it with a load of duff. We've signed bad and had to rip up the squad twice now. Fans also don't believe any real money is coming this summer.

They literally are the mirror images of each other. I'm a jinx. Mind you, spare a thought for Milan and Villan Kurt (RIP).

Posted by: Danny May 10 2017, 11:54 AM

...not even going there buddy

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 10 2017, 03:09 PM

He has been amazing this season. I don't care if han or X-Off blow a gasket. And they're good to watch. But I HATE JUVE. I hope Madrid win this.

Posted by: Nova May 10 2017, 07:36 PM

Some labeled him as horrible, even to the point some of us even understood tactics better than him.

He has proven everyone wrong , including me. Hats off .

Posted by: Nova May 10 2017, 07:38 PM

Dilemma for me. It's good for Italian football if Juve win it , but it's still Juve.
And I never liked Real either ... I'm still going for Juve.

P.S. Inter is an exception, the hell with them

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 11 2017, 04:52 AM

Watched part of the game, shut off the TV in disgust after it went 2-0. Sounds like I saved myself further aggravation.

Thanks to Inter, we still have a chance at 6th place. However, we cannot keep counting on Inter's help, and Fiorentina is getting dangerously close.

Tend to agree with Han on Montella. Not sure he could have done much more with this mediocre team, especially after he started losing key players. I am also mildly optimistic about the new management based on what I read. Will see how it all turns out this Summer.

I have been really impressed by Allegri this year. I think he matured a lot, and I also think some of us (myself included) were a little too negative back when he was managing our team. Those who followed him did not fare much better (though I believe the team has deteriorated since he was in charge). I hope he wins the CL this year (yes, even if Juve's fans will become even more insufferable). I have to support the Italian team, and in any case I dislike RM more than I do Juve.

Also impressed by Conte, BTW. He did wonders at Juve and did a decent job with the NT, but EPL is different and (I believe) more challenging then Serie A in a number of ways. Hope he wins. Will be interesting to see if he goes for Suning's money, or if he chooses to stay with Chelsea and go back to the CL.

Posted by: Danny May 11 2017, 11:14 AM

He's shown up Guardiola for the painfully hyped up overrated machine he is. He's the N'Golo Kante to Guardiola's Pogba.

Posted by: han2503 May 11 2017, 05:49 PM

The major long post I can write on this Allegri bullcrap would take up the entire page.

Yes, it's really hard to achieve great things when you have a top 5 team in the world

Allegri is where he should be at Juve, he's done well to build on what Conte started there and he's also done well with incorporating the new players after losing Pirlo/Pogba/Vidal (the replacements are all still exceptional)

Allegri's time with us however will never remove the tarnished view I have of him as a coach

@ the Guardiola comment, I never personally estimated Guardiola as a top notch coach like Ancelotti, Mourinho or Conte because he's simply not flexible tactically, either you play his tiki taka or you're done for him and if his team can't do that then they're also dead in the water.

I would still like to reiterate, just so I'm not 100% negative on Allegri, that if Juve win the CL, I'll acknowledge that he's managed a great feat and that his time at Juve has been a great success.

Posted by: Danny May 11 2017, 10:15 PM

True, Guardiola got to the UCL final how many times at Bayern?

Posted by: X-Offender May 11 2017, 10:29 PM

So... We're still talking about Allegri.

Posted by: Danny May 12 2017, 01:30 AM

Some of them are, yes.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 12 2017, 09:22 AM

I don't have a problem accepting Allegri is a great coach. He's a much better coach than he was at Milan. Why must that piss us off?

Seedorf and Pirlo were better for us than they were at their previous clubs. Carletto was better for us than he ever was for Juve. It's football. It's normal. People improve with experience and new knowledge. I can live with that.

Btw. New match thread? Apparently with our injuries and suspensions in defence and midfield, we might be in with three at the back. De Sciglio as one of the CBs.

Do we really think we can take on Gasperini with his patented formation?

Posted by: han2503 May 12 2017, 04:42 PM

As I said, Guardiola comes with his own set of negative aspects, just like Allegri.

Posted by: Danny May 21 2017, 03:09 PM

Nothing sums up the loss of interest in Milan beyond the fact that no one gives a crap, not even Han, about the fact we're playing right now.

I don't know the score, I don't know the team, and I don't care.

I think it's Bologna we're playing, but beyond that *shrug*

Wake me up when we have a team worth supporting.

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 21 2017, 03:17 PM

Woke up to watch the game, but I am stuck watching Juve. Sounds like I am not missing much.

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:23 PM

Just tuned in to see the 2nd half

Bologna are seriously bad, and we can't even manage to create a decent chance against them

Posted by: X-Offender May 21 2017, 03:25 PM

I like the new shirt.

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:27 PM

Agreed, and was just about to say that I really like it, as well as the white shirt, white sock combo

And thankfully, there'll be much better players who wear it instead of this sorry bunch

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 21 2017, 03:31 PM

Definitely offside

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:31 PM

DEULOFEU!!

Posted by: X-Offender May 21 2017, 03:32 PM

Great goal.

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:32 PM

What a ball by Mati

Now hold the lead and we're in Europe!

Posted by: amancik May 21 2017, 03:34 PM

Honda goal!

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:35 PM

HONDAAA

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:35 PM

Why haven't we used this guy more this season?

Posted by: X-Offender May 21 2017, 03:40 PM

Because he's crap.

Posted by: amancik May 21 2017, 03:42 PM

Yep, poor pass just now halted a counter-attack.

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:44 PM

You talk like we have many other "non-crap" options...

It's not like Ocampos is better

Posted by: Danny May 21 2017, 03:46 PM

This thread depresses me.

Posted by: amancik May 21 2017, 03:53 PM

Lapadula!! Here we come Europe!

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 03:56 PM

At least we'll have mid-week matches again next season

Add to that, this will also push the management to make sure we have a deep enough squad with the quality needed to compete in 3 competitions, especially since CL is the goal for next season

Posted by: X-Offender May 21 2017, 03:59 PM

Yeah, they're all crap, so what's the point?

Anyway, we're officially going to play the EL preliminary round. But... but I thought we were purposely trying to sabotage them for the summer friendlies in China.

Posted by: amancik May 21 2017, 04:02 PM

We've been out of Europe for too long. I don't care if it's Europa League because like Han said, finally mid-week matches. I have something to look forward to on Thursday.

Posted by: X-Offender May 21 2017, 04:27 PM

First we have to pass the play-offs, though. Just saying.

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 21 2017, 04:33 PM

True. But you have to hope that if we get the kind of players we are talking about, and do it early enough in the transfer season, we should have a decent chance to make it through.

Posted by: han2503 May 21 2017, 05:48 PM

My point is that someone like Honda would have been the better choice out of all that crap. At least he can shoot and pass, which is not the case with Ocampos.

Anyway, it's water under the bridge, hopefully we'll be rid of the majority of these unworthy gits come summer

As for your last point, it certainly looked that way at one point. I think the problem has mostly been that the majority of our players have checked out a long time ago


Yep, and the exposure is always better than the nothing of just playing Serie A, even if it is not as large as CL exposure


If we don't go through the EL play-offs, we should just throw in the towel before the season starts

We'll most likely be facing some obscure team we've never heard of. Not going through would be beyond embarrassing


Agreed

Posted by: X-Offender May 21 2017, 05:58 PM

OH MY...

Posted by: Danny May 21 2017, 10:45 PM

This thread depresses me further. What an embarrassment.

Only thing worse would be if Rangers do get to the third round and play Milan. Please God no.

Posted by: han2503 May 22 2017, 11:50 AM

Why does it embarrass you Danny?

Weren't you one of the few who wanted us to qualify for European football?

Personally I think this season has been a relative success considering the initial objectives we started out with. We won the Super Coppa and we made it into the EL spots (which let's face it, was the best we could have done), we also managed to finish above Inter who have spent a lot of cash while we practically spent nothing last summer.

Sure the scenes at the end of the game were over the top but you can't begrudge the players for celebrating something this club hasn't managed to achieve in 3 years. Just like you can't begrudge them for celebrating winning a trophy, no matter how insignificant you think it is

We've managed to make a big step in the right direction this season. This summer we'll be going through a lot of changes, but with the names being mentioned I think we'll have a good season.

I don't think that at this point we should be pessimistic, we're finally seeing the light at the end of a very long dark tunnel we've been stuck in for the last few years. Our season is over and we achieved our goals, that's more than good enough for me considering the serious shortcomings of this team

Posted by: X-Offender May 22 2017, 11:57 AM

A club like AC Milan shouldn't celebrate 6th place like that, no matter how you look at it.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 22 2017, 12:06 PM

Oh come on now! Our team has been through all the mud... Let them celebrate, build some inner confidence. It's mentally very healthy after years of humiliation, misfortune and failure.

Posted by: amancik May 22 2017, 12:07 PM

I'll take it. We've had some miserable years with nothing to be excited about. 6th place may not seem like much, but a 6th place (let's not forget, with Milan's youngest team in decades) after 3-4 years of total embarrassment, I'd say we deserve to celebrate a little bit. Just enough for us to keep the spirit of the team up for next season.

Posted by: han2503 May 22 2017, 02:07 PM

Agreed, this is like all the unnecessary anger the celebrations after the Super Coppa elicited. I don't think it should be a big deal that the players celebrate, even if the achievement is meagre in our eyes, it's still a major stepping stone for this team considering that we've been through the wringer over the last few years

Posted by: Danny May 22 2017, 08:40 PM

What X said. You do that with your coach when he led you to the UCL trophy.

Posted by: Danny May 22 2017, 08:41 PM

Yes. Doesn't mean the players and coach should celebrate being also-rans in such exuberant fashion.

This season has been poor.

Posted by: X-Offender May 22 2017, 08:53 PM

I'm with Danny.

Posted by: han2503 May 22 2017, 09:28 PM

I think you guys are just making mountain out of a mole hill.

It doesn't matter if the celebrations were a bit over the top imo. Let the players enjoy themselves, we're starting fresh next season so this doesn't bother me much.

Btw, Montella looked like he wanted to kill them when they started to pick him up

Posted by: X-Offender May 22 2017, 09:36 PM

AC Milan celebrates scudettos and Champions League's, not 6th spots.

Posted by: amancik May 23 2017, 03:57 AM

Then I guess for that to happen, we're going to have to a wait a little while. Also, these players that celebrated like we won something big, they won't be here when we do. Some of these players, this is as big as it gets for them. So I'm not surprised they celebrated the way they did.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 23 2017, 11:52 AM

Elitist. You're just trying to be supernegative

Posted by: X-Offender May 23 2017, 08:37 PM

No, I'm just trying to be realist. But it's as amancik said, for most of these players this is the maximum they will ever achieve in their careers, so I guess it's fair for them to celebrate like that. Not fair for the colors they represent and the fans, though.

Posted by: Danny May 24 2017, 12:32 AM

Unfortunately Montella DID take part in all this and is supposed to be the guy taking us back to the big time with shiny new players. This was small time behaviour and I really wonder if he's cut out to be manager.

When I look at that photo all I can do is think Carlo. And weep softly.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 24 2017, 02:01 PM

This whole we are Milan and believing we are entitled to shite without the work and talent behind it was probably a big reason why we landed in this mess.

Let them celebrate. It was a hard fought season considering the level of the players we had and it does look like we're moving up from rockbottom. Let's just hope this isn't a false dawn.

Posted by: Danny May 24 2017, 03:55 PM

For me rock bottom is UCL winning-esque celebrations for making the third round of UEL qualifers.

Didn't see Utd celebrating like this when they got to the final the other week from a similar pickle to us. In fact, didn't see them celebrate at all.

We've become small time if this is big. And that's sad.

Posted by: Danny May 24 2017, 03:58 PM

No, the reason we landed in this mess is Silvio released and sold our full team in 2012 without any plan for replacing them.

It is that simple. It was exacerbated by us resting on our laurels in 2011 by doing nothing with our Scudetto win.

We are entitled to be special. We are Milan. We have to work hard, yes, but that goes with being special. Being special alone isn't enough. But we are one of the few clubs supposed to be special on top of the hard work. But we threw it away and our fans just seem to have accepted that.

Ugh.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 24 2017, 04:21 PM

^^Yeah exactly. Silvio took this team from nowhere to win something. That winning Milan doesn't exist. It died 5 years ago. This is a new one, and is finding it's feet. United haven't been dragged through shite for years the way we have, nor have they run without money ever. This isn't a fair comparison. Liverpool would be a better comparison with Milan.

Posted by: han2503 May 24 2017, 08:13 PM

Danny, you are simply looking too much into things. Montella has proven that he can do something with this team of in-betweens. Which is far more than any of our last 4 coaches have managed to do

And for what it's worth, he didn't want the players to lift him and tried to dissuade them. Also, a coach over-celebrating really has nothing to do with his character or know-how. Look at Conte, he goes bonkers any time his team scores but he's one of the world's best coaches. You don't hear anyone saying that it is beneath him


Agreed


United have a team filled with stars that they've spent hundreds of millions on. I don't think the situations are the same tbh


Sure, but OTT celebrating really has no bearing on how the team is viewed or how we move forward now that we have management that is willing to invest in this team to take it back to where it belongs

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 25 2017, 12:06 AM

Agreed on all accounts Han

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 25 2017, 02:54 AM

Yup, me too.

Let the team celebrate, most of them will be gone anyway, and the ones that stay can use the confidence boost. I manage people for a living, and it pays off to celebrate the little things *especially* when you do not have big things to celebrate.

True, barely making EL (mostly thanks to Inter doing worse than us) is not something to be particularly proud of. But, let's face it, we have sunk real low in the last decade, and we are not going to go back to winning CL overnight. Rather, we will need to re-build a step at a time, so we better content ourselves with small triumphs before we can hope of experiencing the big ones again. And all in all, this year was a success, considering the quality of the squad and all of the drama surrounding it.

Bottom line, I see no reason to be depressed. Now, if we end up like Inter, sinking real money in the team and not even making EL, then we would be justified in feeling let down.

Posted by: han2503 May 25 2017, 09:17 AM

Yep, couldn't have said it any better

Posted by: Danny May 25 2017, 03:45 PM

I don't feel let down.

Posted by: han2503 May 28 2017, 01:57 PM

The final match before the new era starts

Let's all savour this last moment of mediocrity

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 28 2017, 02:29 PM

Not starting out too well

Posted by: han2503 May 28 2017, 02:37 PM

I think everyone is already thinking about the beach at this point, I was personally expecting this

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 28 2017, 03:09 PM

Sure, but we're piss poor again. At least the players who are waving goodbye or the undecided should try something.

Posted by: han2503 May 28 2017, 03:33 PM

I think the management are pretty decided on who's staying and who's going. And I think 75% of the players currently on the pitch won't be here next season and they know it

Add to that, we haven't got anything left to play for at this point either

Bacca missed the penalty as well. He can't even score from off the spot now. How many missed penalties does this make it for us this season? 4 or 5?

Posted by: han2503 May 28 2017, 03:42 PM

Paletta red, a fitting end to his season. The number of red cards him and Kucka have racked up this season is embarrassing. Good riddance and I hope he won't be here next season to disgrace the shirt any further

Edit

@TheMilanBible OFFICIAL: Paletta has equalled Luigi Appoloni's record for most red cards in a single Serie A season, with 5 red cards.

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 28 2017, 05:41 PM

Hopefully we will have a better squad next year, and performances like this (team as well as individual players) will become distant memory. Hopefully, 'cause I cannot take much more of this ...

Posted by: Ry4n May 28 2017, 06:27 PM

what a bloody shambles just makes me facking depressed , on the upside the season is OVER , even facking arsenal won something this season and they were uttre dog shite....we just lost cag...

Posted by: Danny May 29 2017, 11:21 AM

I've decided if we don't work hard and get in real quality this summer, I will be taking a major back seat next season. I'm fed up watching absolute rubbish. This window is hugely important.

Posted by: Danny May 29 2017, 11:22 AM

Harsh. First half of the season he and Romagnoli were excellent. His discipline the second half has been a shambles, but so has the whole team. Paletta wasn't our worst performer but I knew you'd be going for the jugular with him.

Posted by: han2503 May 29 2017, 09:07 PM

I agree about his first half of the season, but even then he was still a card magnet. He is just an unreliable player, the only way I'd keep him is as 4th choice back up, and even then I personally don't like the fact that we have someone like him and Kucka on the team who are brainless idiots that cannot control themselves.

Posted by: X-Offender May 29 2017, 09:08 PM

Who would you have as 3rd and 4th choices in the backline, Han? Supposing Musacchio and Romagnoli will be the starting pair.

Posted by: han2503 May 29 2017, 09:25 PM

Well I'd personally keep Gomez, I think he's been impressive this season when he's started.

I'd personally get rid of Zapata and Paletta, both are liabilities in their own way (even though I do think that Paletta is a relatively good CB but he's just not someone that you can depend on) and go for someone new, we've been linked to Kjaer and De Vrij although I'd only assume that we'd go for the latter if Montella is planning to use a 3-man backline. I'm sure we're looking at other CBs as well if they're planning on selling Zapata and Paletta

Posted by: Danny May 29 2017, 11:56 PM

I'd keep none of our defenders bar Romagnoli. Only one who does a job as squad is Zapata but I'd rather frankly buy a completely new squad with the few exceptions I've already illustrated.

The pairing of Romagnoli and Musacchio does worry me - defence is usually best when it's one experience head and one less. One slower, one quicker. One tougher, one more composed. One older, one younger. For this to basically be two circa 25-year olds is slightly concerning. No slight on either player, Romagnoli is great and I know nothing about Musacchio tbh so I can't judge. It's just a traditional type of pairing which fits one older guy with one younger tends to be better. Better communication rather than two alphas or betas or 'youths' together.

We saw how much defence suffered when Romagnoli was paired with Gomez.

Posted by: han2503 May 30 2017, 08:02 AM

Zapata is decent as a squad option but he's not trustworthy either in his own way (although Paletta would take the cake for low trust rating between the 2)

Like I said, I'd only keep Gomez because he's impressed when given the chance, he's young, physical, relatively quick and can grow as the potential is definitely there imo

As for Musacchi and Romagnoli, we'll just have to wait and see how they'll mesh together. Musacchio is coming off a great season with Villareal (best defence in the league) and he has experience playing against the best in the world.

And I agree, most players from our defence need to leave, and I think that's what the management will do this summer

Posted by: Danny May 30 2017, 12:40 PM

Musacchio confirmed. He's a Milan player. Will join up in July 1st.

Good luck to him. Hopefully the first of many fine signings.

Kessie imminent over the next few days (medical today) and Rodriguez too.

Posted by: Forza Milan! May 30 2017, 03:39 PM

Apparently http://www.calciomercato.com/news/milan-visite-mediche-per-kessie-foto-e-video-41148.

Also, http://www.calciomercato.com/news/milan-lunedi-blitz-per-morata-e-zaza-46800. Shoot me now ...

Posted by: han2503 May 30 2017, 04:22 PM

We're linked with every striker under the sun (for the backup position, there seems to be a consensus on Morata though). We were linked with Borini a couple of days ago as well

Calciomercqato are the only ones reporting the issue with the medical so far. Hopefully it's nothing too serious

Posted by: X-Offender May 30 2017, 08:43 PM

Zaza? I would much rather keep Lapadula.

Posted by: Danny May 30 2017, 11:23 PM

Zaza is a joke.

Posted by: Ry4n May 31 2017, 03:05 PM

Borini....maybe as a squad player but come on really , would rather have Lorente at this point.