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Posted by: m1ke Jul 14 2008, 12:03 PM

With Ronaldinho's arrival looking increasingly likely, have Milan's management got it right by going for the Brazilian? Would he be the key to a successful 08/09 season for Milan?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 14 2008, 06:59 PM

I am confident that he will. He was the reason Barca won two league titles and a CL. Without him, Barca didn't do much, not in teh league nor the CL ... Messi, Henry, Eto'o, hell even with adebayor and Drogba; they still wont bring Barca what Ronaldinho brought them.


So I think he will find a lot of motivation in Milan, not only is he playing for Milan which is a motivation by itself, but he will also be able to leave his mark with the fans by guiding Milan to their 2nd league title in 4 yrs.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jul 14 2008, 07:02 PM

well it seems that he is rejecting more money offers and he only wants milan that means he is motivated and wants to be on top again so i believe he could be the difference next season

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 14 2008, 07:08 PM

I don't think he would be the only 'key' to our success. we just have so many key players [Kaka/Pirlo/Gattuso/Nesta/Pato/...]. but I believe he will contribute a lot. so... YES.

Posted by: vahid Jul 14 2008, 07:21 PM

NO!with these goalkeepers and defenders we should play basketball if we want to win the seie A

Posted by: Habitant Jul 14 2008, 07:25 PM

QUOTE (vahid @ Jul 14 2008, 06:21 PM) *
NO!with these goalkeepers and defenders we should play basketball if we want to win the seie A

so true laugh.gif it's obvious we need a real GKer and a CB to play with nesta.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 14 2008, 07:40 PM

No. I think we need a GK and a CB more than we need R10, so while he could be a useful addition, I don't think he'll solve much. Remember, even with R9 in the team we were languishing in mid-table, and I'm not sure R10 can offer THAT much more than R9.

Posted by: LaPalma Jul 14 2008, 08:52 PM

I agree with kurt. We need more than a player we'd have to send in rehab before allowing to play. He's neither mentally nor physically capable of contributing anything to this team.

Posted by: han2503 Jul 14 2008, 08:53 PM

I voted yes, since there is no hopeful as an option.

You can never be sure. He might come be amazing again and help lead us to silverware or he can flop and be unable to adapt for some reason or another. So I'm hopeful that he will make it at Milan

As many others said we have other problems mainly the GK and the CB. But having said that we needed an attacking player also, so still we would have spent money on another attacker if it wasn't R10 so it shouldn't be an issue of either or

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 14 2008, 09:09 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 14 2008, 11:22 PM) *
He's neither mentally nor physically capable of contributing anything to this team.

We'll see about that...

Posted by: LaPalma Jul 14 2008, 09:12 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 10:09 PM) *
We'll see about that...

Believe me...I hope he proves me just as wrong as Ronaldo did in his first season. Just can't see it right now.

Posted by: rhy_A4 Jul 14 2008, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 14 2008, 05:59 PM) *
I am confident that he will. He was the reason Barca won two league titles and a CL. Without him, Barca didn't do much, not in teh league nor the CL ... Messi, Henry, Eto'o, hell even with adebayor and Drogba; they still wont bring Barca what Ronaldinho brought them.


So I think he will find a lot of motivation in Milan, not only is he playing for Milan which is a motivation by itself, but he will also be able to leave his mark with the fans by guiding Milan to their 2nd league title in 4 yrs.


+1 agree totally man i think he'd do great with us !!

Posted by: agenth Jul 14 2008, 10:28 PM

Would Ronaldinho be the answer to Milan's problems in 08/09?


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Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jul 15 2008, 12:56 AM

Come on he isn't that Big! ^
LOL laugh.gif
Okay and regarding his arrival... imo he would definitely help with our attack.
(but obviously not on a defensive front)
Nonetheless, he can improve our attack thus, I think it could add to being our answer to having a positive 08/09 Serie A season.

So, my vote is for yes!

Btw,
(I too, still think our Defence and GK departments can do with some arrivals, well see what happens!) wink.gif

Posted by: Habitant Jul 15 2008, 04:55 AM

obliviously the pic above has been photoshoped but i have a feeling the original thats circulating is as well.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jul 15 2008, 04:59 AM

QUOTE (Habitant @ Jul 14 2008, 11:55 PM) *
obliviously the pic above has been photoshoped but i have a feeling the original thats circulating is as well.

I was thinking that too until I saw the video on youtube from the friendly game vs Messi's team.
Regardless, I don't think it's that big of a deal anyhow!

Posted by: vnata001 Jul 15 2008, 06:07 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 14 2008, 11:40 AM) *
No. I think we need a GK and a CB more than we need R10, so while he could be a useful addition, I don't think he'll solve much. Remember, even with R9 in the team we were languishing in mid-table, and I'm not sure R10 can offer THAT much more than R9.


wait, we had r9 on our team? I can only really remember him making like 4 appearances. and this r9 ur talking about hasn't been r9 for 3 years..and despite all that, the games that he in fact did play in for us, we DID have an explosive offense. I remember a great milan side against napoli, a few games before he went down with injury, in which he scored twice and pato once.

With a past his prime, mediocre r9 we weren't half bad when he ACTUALLY played. With a motivated, hungry, still in his prime r10..there is a whole different explosive dimension being added to our team. Additionally, no more GILA means that even if r10 isn't the messiah, Borriello is not Gila and cud be better, and *crosses fingers*, pippo being healthy for longer cudda helped a lot last season, AND Pato will have another year under his belt. There are a lot of signs that we'll recover quite nicely..

the goal for this season is Scudetto but the minimal requirement is the champs league. It's good that our team's goal is the Scudetto, but after getting back into champs league with dida/kalac/abiatti, and our agy defense, There will probably be some defensive signings next summer in goal and post-maldini upon re-entry to europe..and our squad will be complete in time for Champs League 09/10

Posted by: armisse Jul 15 2008, 08:06 AM

No , we need a very strong finisher , if we bring back Sheva or Ronaldo i think many problems will solve but if we want to count only on Pato+Boriello+Inzagi+Paloschi we are in same danger and continues fear as last 2 years with Gilardino !

Posted by: agenth Jul 15 2008, 09:16 AM

QUOTE (Habitant @ Jul 15 2008, 05:55 AM) *
obliviously the pic above has been photoshoped but i have a feeling the original thats circulating is as well.


http://www.yourdictionary.com/oblivious
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obviously yes.

I was just kidding. here's the original:

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 15 2008, 10:41 AM

Ronaldinho is sure a big transfer for Milan, but I think we just need to pull one more signing out. As said before, we need someone like Flamini, who is actually "in form and rising". The spot that still makes me worry is the RB. After Cafu left we are short of a quality offensive right player. This is the position I'd rather had covered better.

Posted by: han2503 Jul 15 2008, 11:28 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 15 2008, 10:41 AM) *
Ronaldinho is sure a big transfer for Milan, but I think we just need to pull one more signing out. As said before, we need someone like Flamini, who is actually "in form and rising". The spot that still makes me worry is the RB. After Cafu left we are short of a quality offensive right player. This is the position I'd rather had covered better.

We have Oddo and Zambrotta there, plus Bonera if needed on the left we have Janku and Favalli and Zambro can play just as well on the left as he can play on the right. I'm personally more worried about the center back situation

As for comparing R9 and Rivaldo with R10. I don't think that the situations can be compared. I know no one here has mentioned Rivaldo but a lot are comparing the situations. Both Rivaldo and R9 were in their 30s Dinho is still in his 20s and at 28 many consider that the age that a player peeks in so he's still got a few good years left in him.

Ronaldo also had a terrible history behind him of bad injuries. We all knew that and the risk he carried, R10 however does not have that. And Ronaldo can't really be blamed, he was great his first season with us and was one of the big reasons that we managed a CL spot while going to the final if it wasn't for the injuries last season I'm pretty sure that he would have scored a lot of goals and earned himself an extension

Just the fact that R10 only wants milan when he can go to Man City and earn twice the money we are offering shows how motivated he is. And also agreeing on a 2 year deal means that he wants to show not only the fans but the management that he will do everything possible to regain his form in order to earn an extension

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 15 2008, 11:42 AM

I'm voting yes. Ronaldinho opens up the possibilty of various different formations as opposed to if we brought in an out and out centre forward, since we shall remain Pirlo centric in the mid-field, and it has cost both us and the Azzuri. Sometimes having unique players can be a curse.

If we have R20, we can have the option of resting Pirlo or Seedorf or even Kaka and playing a double-pivot mid-field in either a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-2-2-2.

So

----Flamini/Rino/Ambro/Emerson--Rino/Ambro/Flamini/Emerson---
----Seedorf/R20/Kaka-----Seedorf/R20/Kaka-----Seedorf/R20/Kaka
---------------------------Pippo/Borriello/Pato---------------------------

Or

----Flamini/Rino/Ambro/Emerson--Rino/Ambro/Flamini/Emerson---
-------Seedorf/R20/Kaka---------Seedorf/R20/Kaka------------------
-----------Pato/Pippo/Borriello-----Pato/Pippo/Borriello--------------


Now both of them don't have Trilly in it. This is depth, I'm loving it baby! biggrin.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 15 2008, 12:41 PM

QUOTE (Habitant @ Jul 15 2008, 08:25 AM) *
obliviously the pic above has been photoshoped but i have a feeling the original thats circulating is as well.


It doesn't even matter how big it is. I'm sure he will get rid of it sooner than many people think.

Posted by: Habitant Jul 15 2008, 10:49 PM

QUOTE (agenth @ Jul 15 2008, 09:16 AM) *
http://www.yourdictionary.com/oblivious
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obviously yes.

I was just kidding. here's the original:

dint notice notice i wrote that laugh.gif

Posted by: anano1214 Jul 16 2008, 05:51 PM

Maybe

Posted by: dst Jul 16 2008, 08:08 PM

To all of Milan's problems? Obviously no.
To Milan's attacking problems? He certainly has the qualities to be much more than a simple answer. If a tactical scheme is found that can fit him in and more importantly if he rediscovers himself... that's two big if's... we can only wait.

Posted by: acid911 Jul 17 2008, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Jul 14 2008, 04:03 PM) *
With Ronaldinho's arrival looking increasingly likely, have Milan's management got it right by going for the Brazilian? Would he be the key to a successful 08/09 season for Milan?

Can't see any one else who would. unsure.gif So it's a resounding yes from me - for the time being - at least. Still got to see how he bounces back, and how much of that helps Milan. We've still got reinforcements in other departments, though. Zamborghini, Flamini, that Bori guy have got to count for something.

Posted by: milanista1899 Jul 18 2008, 03:50 AM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Jul 14 2008, 12:03 PM) *
Would Ronaldinho be the answer to Milan's problems in 08/09?
With Ronaldinho's arrival looking increasingly likely, have Milan's management got it right by going for the Brazilian? Would he be the key to a successful 08/09 season for Milan?

Definately not the only answer. We'll only find out if they got it right during the new season. If they got it wrong hopefully it'll just be because we needed a striker & not a creative player, rather than him turning out to be just not good enough anymore. He's got a great scoring record even if not yet in Serie A. Won't blame him too much if he doesn't carry scoring a lot because that will be mainly up to Borriello - who is what I worry about the most, along with Paloschi going on loan. sad.gif

Dinho could be the metal 'teeth' that are part of the key. No player maybe with the exception of Kaka can make a team have a successful season by himself. Just for that reason I voted no. I've got a good feeling he'll help us a lot upfront though, which was an important area that we were lacking in last season. Also I see us playing more attractive football with him here. Fingers crossed. Can't wait until we start playing again! biggrin.gif cool.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jul 18 2008, 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 15 2008, 11:42 AM) *
I'm voting yes. Ronaldinho opens up the possibilty of various different formations as opposed to if we brought in an out and out centre forward, since we shall remain Pirlo centric in the mid-field, and it has cost both us and the Azzuri. Sometimes having unique players can be a curse.

If we have R20, we can have the option of resting Pirlo or Seedorf or even Kaka and playing a double-pivot mid-field in either a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-2-2-2.

So

----Flamini/Rino/Ambro/Emerson--Rino/Ambro/Flamini/Emerson---
----Seedorf/R20/Kaka-----Seedorf/R20/Kaka-----Seedorf/R20/Kaka
---------------------------Pippo/Borriello/Pato---------------------------

Or

----Flamini/Rino/Ambro/Emerson--Rino/Ambro/Flamini/Emerson---
-------Seedorf/R20/Kaka---------Seedorf/R20/Kaka------------------
-----------Pato/Pippo/Borriello-----Pato/Pippo/Borriello--------------


Now both of them don't have Trilly in it. This is depth, I'm loving it baby! biggrin.gif

PIRLO huh.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 18 2008, 01:39 PM

^^^


I benched him, coz he's a no good lazy s.o.b who can't run for shite. Even his free kicks are horrendous. I'd rather have Flamini. We should have sold him to Barca and gotten ourselves Adebayor as well. biggrin.gif


Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jul 18 2008, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 18 2008, 01:39 PM) *
^^^


I benched him, coz he's a no good lazy s.o.b who can't run for shite. Even his free kicks are horrendous. I'd rather have Flamini. We should have sold him to Barca and gotten ourselves Adebayor as well. biggrin.gif

or in other words u forgot him wink.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 18 2008, 02:43 PM

^^^

Damn...I was hoping I could bait you into flaming me. I just want to test this warn feature m1key's got in(nothing personal biggrin.gif).

No...I didn't forget. Read my post again. I mention how Milan are too Pirlo-centric, and so R10 (R11?) is key. I was trying to put forward the non-Pirlo related options. See the last line too, if you're unconvinced. I do say the formations are without Trilly playing. biggrin.gif

Me forget Pirlo in Milan??!! ohmy.gif Like Galliani forgetting to shave his head in the morning. wink.gif


Posted by: m1ke Jul 20 2008, 01:51 PM

I've voted no, although I think he'll make a big difference. I would have liked to see a suitable no.1 arrive - I saw that as a bigger weak spot (considering 'dinho isn't an out-and-out striker). Still, a Ronaldinho, Kaka, Pato front three is going to produce some pretty dynamic football - great against the 95% of Serie A teams who put 11 behind the ball and tried to hit us on the counter last season.


Posted by: Bluesummers Jul 20 2008, 06:47 PM

hes so versatile and his game is so undefined that it would only benefit us. Hes not like rivaldo and i believe he will succeed. He is the type of midfielder that we need. To push seedorf deep and give us a true Trequista.

Posted by: m1ke Jul 22 2008, 10:39 AM

This was a lot closer than I expected - over 30% of you think that R80 (wink.gif) is definitely NOT what Milan needs for their upcoming campaign. I guess time will tell.

I think it'll be interesting to see where Carlo plays him (it's got to be on the left in the front 3 of the Xmas tree, hasn't it?).

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