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Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 9 2007, 04:14 AM
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>THIS IS MY JERSEY</span>
Daniele Bonera spent his youth dreaming of someday sporting Milan’s jersey and now that he has it on he doesn’t every want to take it off
Daniele Bonera spoke about his passion for Milan from the afternoon press conference at Milanello.
Champions league draw: ‘After yesterday night, we have every reason to believe that we can reach the Champions League final. There were some surprise, like Barcelona’s elimination, but nevertheless there are great squads remaining. I believe that this group has the strength to be able to win. Honestly, Roma are great team and I would avoid them, Liverpool and Manchester UTD are also teams to be feared.’
The derby: ‘We will prepare for this really important game starting today. It has been a really intense week with Chievo and then the 120 minutes yesterday. We must recover the right mental energy and in this respect we have one day less than Inter, but four days should be enough. Inter will certainly be very angry because they didn’t play poorly in Valencia, they just lacked the goal. It is an exciting game and we want to demonstrate that there is nothing to the thirty points between them and us. Anything can happen, but I am only hoping for a great show.’
Bonera and Milan: ‘This has always been my team in heart and, now that I wear this jersey, I want to do all that I can to be able to remain here as long as possible. I had to adjust to the new environment and other things, after my move here from Parma. Everyone really supported me during that time and they didn’t pressure me but instead allowed me to work at my own pace. I have always believed in my potential and all of this has helped me grow. I am going through a period of good form and I want to continue on this path.’
His position: ‘I was born to play central defender. I also played full-back with Parma, but believe me when I say that there is a difference in playing that position with an average team like Parma and a great team like Milan. Ancelotti’s approach takes a certain kind of push on the flanks and in this sense I don’t think I can give what my team-mates in that position can.’
Bonera and national duty: ‘Not to be presumptuous, but I think I will be called up. I started playing for the Azzurri Italian national side when I was very young. I think that being able to be part of this group here with Milan will help me to develop to my full potential. In this sense, my model remains Paolo Maldini. He is great to learn from. He played an extraordinary game against Celtic even though he was still experiencing some physical problems. Maldini is fundamental for us.’
Posted by: Tennie Mar 9 2007, 01:11 PM
I'm dating myself a bit in saying this, but I've been struck by a bit of nostalgia after watching Bonera's play the last few games. He reminds me more than a little of the old days of Gli Invincibili of the early 1990s. And he's just getting better.
Posted by: dst Mar 9 2007, 02:01 PM
We got a great CB for the next ten years! 
Posted by: han2503 Mar 9 2007, 02:11 PM
Definately one of the best buys we've made in a long time.
His tackling remind me of Nesta at times, and he's still 25. 
Posted by: misha Mar 9 2007, 02:55 PM
He was a good player at Parma but he exceeded all expectations and grew up more and he is still improving.
He is living the dream
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 9 2007, 06:01 PM
We need one more Bonera...to be precise in the 2009 transfer window. And then we are set.
Posted by: nuh Mar 16 2007, 10:36 AM
i think that bonera and maldini or kaladze make are v.gd together but i cant wait to see him and nesta!!
Posted by: AuRoR Mar 18 2007, 10:46 AM
He's a good player and give him time and he will be GR8 and Maldini said : he's Milan Future 
Posted by: han2503 Mar 18 2007, 11:35 PM
Bonera has been called up for the NT
Posted by: Portikins Mar 18 2007, 11:54 PM
Yup. Really nice for him.
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 18 2007, 11:55 PM
Yeah go bony
GOOD luck and remember no red cards
Posted by: misha Jun 1 2007, 07:09 PM
MILAN - After Ricardo Oliveira, Franco Baresi, Marek Jankulovski, Andrea Pirlo and Massimo Ambrosini celebrated birthdays in May, it is now the turn of Daniele Bonera who was born on May 31, 1986
Happy Birthday!! Hope you will continue to improve...
Posted by: KillerMax Jun 1 2007, 08:30 PM
He is 26 now. If he continues to improve as he did last year, we won't have to look for someone to replace Maldini.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 1 2007, 11:35 PM
MILAN - After Ricardo Oliveira, Franco Baresi, Marek Jankulovski, Andrea Pirlo and Massimo Ambrosini celebrated birthdays in May, it is now the turn of Daniele Bonera who was born on May 31, 1986
He couldn't have been born then.. That'd make him 21.
Posted by: misha Jun 2 2007, 12:27 AM
Yes, it should be 1981
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 24 2007, 09:42 PM
Daniele Bonera has rejected accusations that Milan only care about Champions League games after three consecutive draws in Serie A.
Carlo Ancelotti has a history of resting and rotating first-team players before European ties and this has led to accusations that the Rossoneri are not interested in trying to win the Scudetto.
Before Milan’s recent 2-1 Champions League victory over Benfica, Ancelotti rested a host of star names such as Andrea Pirlo and Kaka for the league match with Siena.
“It is absolutely wrong to say that Milan are snubbing the league,†said Bonera. “We go on to the pitch to win always and we have the highest respect for our opponent.
“We know that the problem exists and we are talking about with the coach. Maybe the Champions League takes away some of our energy but we cannot hide away.
“Now we have two difficult games against Palermo and Catania. With regards to the Palermo game, we know we are playing a great team. Traditionally, the Sicilians always put us in great difficulty, like has happened in the past season. The fact that so far this campaign they have done better away from home means nothing.â€
The Rossoneri travel to the Stadio Renzo Barbera on Wednesday evening looking to notch up their first league win since matchday one.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 25 2007, 12:25 AM
Hope he has a successful career at Milan
Posted by: redbabies Apr 14 2008, 09:55 AM
After his horror tackle on Momo Sissoko proved he has learned nothing, Susy Campanale urges Milan and Italy to drop Daniele Bonera
For many years now I have been saying that former Brescia and Parma defender Daniele Bonera is a liability. On Saturday night I was reminded of why and realised we can no longer use youthful exuberance as an excuse. He has done this sort of thing too often and just does not have the talent to justify risking him in a big match.
Mohamed Sissoko must be eternally grateful that his shins of steel did not crack like Eduardo's under Bonera's horror tackle. But for a few inches or a slightly different degree of weight placed on one leg, he could well have suffered a similar disaster as the Arsenal star. The fact the Juventus midfielder was able to get back up and continue playing should not be used to sweep Bonera's problems under the carpet.
Now I realise he did not go into the challenge intending to hurt the Juventus midfielder, so a five-match ban would probably be a little harsh. What I am saying is that Bonera should not be allowed near a Milan or especially an Azzurri shirt until he can prove that he understands the reasons behind this latest setback.
Back in his years at Brescia and the Under-21 squad, he was considered the bright hope of Italy's next generation of stoppers. The experts assured that the rash tackles and rushes of blood to the head would pass as he matured and worked alongside more experienced figures.
Bonera has now been playing with Paolo Maldini and Alessandro Nesta, yet still flies in with tackles like the one that effectively ruined Milan's slender Champions League hopes, not to mention risked devastating Sissoko's career.
He simply does not learn. The man will turn 27 next month, this is his eighth Serie A season and he certainly cannot hide behind that 'youthful exuberance' tag any longer.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/blogs/sc16.html
Posted by: dst Apr 14 2008, 01:26 PM
Why is this stupid ***** so extravagant in her articles? I'm not even going to bother about what she says as long as she keeps expressing herself in this manner.
Posted by: arivanjj Apr 14 2008, 02:13 PM
...
the boy is quality and that's final.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 14 2008, 03:07 PM
That blog is ridiculously harsh on him. Yes it was a rash and reckless tackle, but it was the first and probably last time he will do it for Milan
Posted by: rhy_A4 Apr 14 2008, 04:06 PM
OMG i want to see a blog on Materazzi if she thinks that tackle was harsh look what he does "Susy Campanale urges Milan and Italy to drop Daniele Bonera" Where the hell does she get off saying stuff like this how bout drop her from Channel 4 .com
Posted by: Tennie Apr 14 2008, 04:15 PM
(from the ticker on gazzetta dello sport)
MILANO - Il giudice sportivo ha inflitto due giornate di squalifica a Daniele Bonera (Milan), espulso sabato sera nel corso dell'anticipo della trentatreesima giornata del campionato di Serie A perso dai rossoneri per 3-2 contro la Juventus a Torino.
[Two game ban for Bonera for the red. Could have been a lot harsher.]
Posted by: dst Apr 14 2008, 04:51 PM
SHOULD have been a lot harsher in my opinion. It was an utterly reckless tackle.
Posted by: acid911 Apr 14 2008, 05:47 PM
If they banned him for three games, I'd have been pretty much okay with that. Something that makes him think twice before making such fierce tackles again. You don't associate these sorts of tackles with the red part of Milan - only the blue one. 
Plus, I hope the kid (is that the right word for a 27-year-old) lears from his mistakes. We could use his skills. There aren't many good CBs you can find these days, let alone great ones. Just ask dst about Kaladze. 
Posted by: redbabies Apr 14 2008, 06:06 PM
MILANO - Il giudice sportivo ha inflitto due giornate di squalifica a Daniele Bonera (Milan), espulso sabato sera nel corso dell'anticipo della trentatreesima giornata del campionato di Serie A perso dai rossoneri per 3-2 contro la Juventus a Torino.
[Two game ban for Bonera for the red. Could have been a lot harsher.]
I guess they understood that it wasn't intentional.
Bonera is not the kind of player who makes those kind of tackles, like somebody mentioned Materazzi, or Roy Keane in the past used to do.
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 14 2008, 06:09 PM
He isn't that type of person who would injure someone out of anger like matrix. He mad e a mistake and he realised it and appologized to momo after the game. Matrix kills sheva and torres and then says the red was BS. I doubt this will happen again.
That blogger is just an idiot. Some people know nothing of football and are just ignorant and talk thinking their oppinion weighs in the overall situation. The two match ban was the correct choice because he wasn't doing it intentionally and he had probably made the mistake and couldn't pull out in time. They are human afterall not machines you can say oh they are not allowed to do these kinds of things.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 14 2008, 06:12 PM
And who's gonna disagree with him? I think of all the footballers I've ever seen, Matrix is the last person I'd want to cross, the guy is about 10 foot tall, and crazy!
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 14 2008, 06:16 PM
are you kidding me? if i were pro i would cross him everytime i saw him. Hes a coward and a p*ssy. Zidane showed the world how much of a piece of trash he is.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 14 2008, 06:38 PM
Well, I think most people would have gone down after what Zidane did. I certainly would of, if only to get him sent off. And Matrix a coward? Why do you think Zidane is the only one to react to things he does? 
Matrix is a big guy, I couldn't believe how huge he really was when I saw him live. And what he does isn't cheating or anything anyway. If he makes a foul and gets away with it, it's bad refereeing. If he makes a foul and gives away a free-kick or gets a card, then he's received his punishment. It's a part of football!
Posted by: dst Apr 14 2008, 07:01 PM
If ones does something like that intentionally then in my opinion he should be banned from playing football for at least one year!
Bonera should have been given a 4 match ban. At least that's what I think.
And what he does isn't cheating or anything anyway. If he makes a foul and gets away with it, it's bad refereeing. If he makes a foul and gives away a free-kick or gets a card, then he's received his punishment. It's a part of football!
Provocation happens in every football match, if players reacted at it then football would be a war zone...
When you intentionally try to kick someone out of the game (and you can do that without getting red carded) it is cheating in my opinion. I don't think Materazzi did anything wrong in the WC Final since we're talking about it but he's a disgusting figure for many other things he has done.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 14 2008, 07:06 PM
I think it's a case of "if the refs are doing anything, why stop?". He is also punished for what he does, because of his name. Do you think if any other Inter player did what he did at Anfield that they would have been sent off? Not a chance. The fact that he's Materazzi the refs autmatically jump to the conclusion that there's intent and such.
Then again, I am a huge fan of the guy, so I am a little biased.
I think Arsene Wenger has hacked onto dst's account!
Posted by: dst Apr 14 2008, 07:16 PM
You are right about that.
Anyway I don't have any problem with the guy now. He's just another average defender and he's calmed down. But what he did in the past (not only against Milan)... boy I think I even wished he died.
You should get help!
I disagree with 90% of what Wenger says. But if he said that, I'm with him. To intentionally do something that could risk another athlete's career is prohibitive and should be heavily punished!
Posted by: Habitant Apr 14 2008, 07:27 PM
in that incident materrazzi did what almost every footballer does even zidane. ive' seen when i played played, i see it with little kids in my brother's U12 team! it's part part of the game whether you like it or not. the only thing cowardly was zidanes reaction, it takes a bigger man to just ignore it and zidane din't.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 14 2008, 07:46 PM
I think the funniest thing is not what Matrix does, but when people try to do stuff to Matrix, he just completely blanks them. It winds them up so much.
Nah, nothing wrong with liking a player.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 14 2008, 07:54 PM
You guys may want to tar and feather me for saying this, but I don't hate Materazzi. I think he's a thug and a wind-up-merchant, but he's a very effective one and players like that can be very useful to teams. I won't cheer for him when he's wearing the evil jersey, but I absolutely support him when he plays for the Azzurri. I'll also add that he gets points from me for doing a good bit of charity work in his spare time.
Posted by: maldini03 Apr 14 2008, 08:13 PM
+ 1
That blogger is just an idiot. Some people know nothing of football and are just ignorant and talk thinking their oppinion weighs in the overall situation. The two match ban was the correct choice because he wasn't doing it intentionally and he had probably made the mistake and couldn't pull out in time. They are human afterall not machines you can say oh they are not allowed to do these kinds of things.
+1
-1
I poop my pants when i see Materazzi he is giant, like a big ogre who is determined to p!ss off a player enough to get them kicked out (Zidane) but i do agree also with tennie above when he plays for italy and scores goals (WC) i am forced to like him
Posted by: Habitant Apr 14 2008, 08:23 PM
ya i agree. we can easily get carried away with hating players but we forget theres a person wearing that jersey.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 14 2008, 09:51 PM
Okay, back on topic.
Bonera must've been incredibly repentant.
Gazzetta's ticker is incorrect; I just checked on the Lega Calcio site and Bonera's ban is for ONE game, not two.
http://www.lega-calcio.it/comun/0708/cu240.pdf
Bonera's ban explanation is at the bottom of page 2.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 14 2008, 10:57 PM
That's incredible, I agree with dst on the 4 game ban. But 1!? We got away with it this time, let's hope that's not the only good thing to come!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 14 2008, 11:10 PM
I have been a big fan of Bonera since his Parma days, and as a Bonera lover i think the ban is fairly lenient. Two is acceptable, three may have been preferable
Will he be available for the derby now?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 14 2008, 11:13 PM
Yup. He (and Ambro) will only sit out the Reggina game.
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 15 2008, 08:42 AM
Matrix is a big guy, I couldn't believe how huge he really was when I saw him live. And what he does isn't cheating or anything anyway. If he makes a foul and gets away with it, it's bad refereeing. If he makes a foul and gives away a free-kick or gets a card, then he's received his punishment. It's a part of football!
Come on....it's not like he's 2 meters tall. It's only 1,93 meters, that's tall but he's not a giant like Jan Koller.
Besides that....never liked Matrix too much....
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 15 2008, 11:09 AM
ONLY 1.93, I'm tall, but not that tall! He's one of the bigges guys I've seen play football, that's for sure. Definitly as big as Carew.
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 15 2008, 03:35 PM
in football maybe but 1.93 is not that tall.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 15 2008, 03:46 PM
Bonera is 6ft 3/4, which is a very good height for a defender
Still not as tall as Kalac though...
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 15 2008, 03:56 PM
I've seen bigger guys but not many that's true. But when I take a look at the German NT for example 1, 93 is not that extraordinary as Mertesacker (1,98) and Borowski (1,96) are taller than him with Ballack (1,90), Kießling (1,91), Rolfes (1,89) and Gomez (1,89) playing in his league.
But on another point of view you're right as Matrix definetely looks a lot taller than Ballack for example cause of his "unnormal" body form (just like Crouch does).
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 15 2008, 03:56 PM
You must either come from a land of giants or watch too much NBA!
Yeah, that's true.
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 15 2008, 04:09 PM
You must either come from a land of giants or watch too much NBA!
Maybe Bluesummers is agiant himself. I would say I'm tall (so do others
) but 1,93 m is definetely tall as the average european male is about 1,80 m.
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 15 2008, 05:31 PM
I'm 6 foot 2/3. so thats maybe i donno 188 cm sorry in NA we go by feet inches
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 15 2008, 08:49 PM
I guess.....so you wouldn't say you're tall?
Posted by: acid911 Apr 15 2008, 09:49 PM
He, we go by feet-inches here too. Anyway, you're a luck man, Blue. 6-2, 6-3 is pretty decent (anywhere in the world). That's quite a lot of real estate.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 15 2008, 11:33 PM
I'm probably about the same height as Bluesummers. I used to be a CB, but my coaches changed me to a forward after I was founed going forward way too often.. I wanted to be the hero with the goals all the time.
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 15 2008, 11:39 PM
Sounds like my own story
Only that I'm a bit taller
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 16 2008, 07:28 AM
God I feel like such a shorty. I'm 181cms...that makes it around 5' 11 I think.
Posted by: Devillito Apr 16 2008, 02:35 PM
*sigh*
U guys sure are lucky..
im 163cm
Posted by: acid911 Apr 16 2008, 03:01 PM
You're still a whole lot taller when compared to where you come from, captain. Comparatively, speaking you're half a foot taller than Shahrukh Khan.
But yeah, being on the right side of 6 foot is always preferred, not the least because you get a good, strong physique to boot.U guys sure are lucky..
im 163cm
That shouldn't stop you in life, though. Just ask Maradonna.
Posted by: Devillito Apr 16 2008, 03:42 PM
Sure bro! Besides, i got all d girls that i wanted.
Its a blessing in disguise really
Posted by: acid911 Apr 16 2008, 04:00 PM
Its a blessing in disguise really
Hehe, spoken like a true Devil.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 16 2008, 06:03 PM
I would usually come up with some anti-Maradona thing to say, but he's had to live his whole life being Argentine, I think that's punishment enough.
Posted by: weeeow Apr 16 2008, 06:11 PM
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 16 2008, 06:26 PM
Ouch
Posted by: Tennie Nov 11 2008, 12:31 PM
This is probably only of interest to those who can read Italian but Daniele Bonera is going to do a live chat on acmilan.com at 1pm Milan time tomorrow.
Posted by: Rivaldo Nov 11 2008, 04:17 PM
I like Bonera very much and really think he may be basic element of our defense
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 11 2008, 09:26 PM
He is slowly becoming a solid defender ... As of late, his performances have impressed me, especially when comparing him to when he first came from Parma.
Posted by: asile Nov 12 2008, 01:55 AM
^^ I agree, hopefully he'll continue that way and we'll find another quality CD to be his central partner, I really hope we find that in Darmian
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 12 2008, 04:24 AM
Of course. Under Carlo, anything is possible!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 12 2008, 09:09 AM
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 12 2008, 12:26 PM
Cookie to Max
Posted by: Tennie Nov 12 2008, 02:09 PM
Things we learned in today's chat with Bonera:
* He was in preseason training with Parma when the contract from Milan arrived. He couldn't quite believe that his favourite club wanted to sign him.
* He prefers wearing trainers when he's not playing.
* He prefers Playstation to Xbox.
* Franco Baresi is his idol.
* He does speak some English (answered questions that he'd never been to Thailand and that yes, he does like Formula 1 in English).
* Pippo is the Milan striker he has the hardest time against in practice games.
Posted by: Rivaldo Nov 12 2008, 07:46 PM
Nice facts, Thanks Tennie!!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 12 2008, 11:49 PM
I can imagine Pippo celebrating a goal in training like it'd just won his team the World Cup.
Posted by: Tennie Dec 11 2008, 07:22 PM
11/12/2008
MILANO - L’A.C. Milan comunica che Daniele Bonera è stato sottoposto oggi a intervento chirurgico presso la clinica “La Madonnina” di Milano. L’intervento, resosi necessario per esiti di ernia inguinale destra, è perfettamente riuscito e il calciatore dovrà osservare un periodo di inattività di almeno tre settimane.
[AC Milan announces that Daniele Bonera had surgery today at the Madonnina Clinic in Milan. The surgery, to repair a hernia, was successfull and the player should observe a period of rest of at least 3 weeks.]
He's been our best CB this season so far.
The ghost of Agnelli must be hexing us.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 11 2008, 07:30 PM
Naah, that's getting over the top now! We're like a sickbay. Not only the vets, even players like Bonera! If it's one position rotation isn't quite good, it's the CB position. And honestly, when did we play the same CB pair two or three times in a row? I don't know. If that continues we could easily sign all 4 or 5 suggested defenders.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 11 2008, 07:32 PM
Does this mean Maldini, Kaladze, Senderos and Favalli are our only available CBs? (Not that Favalli even is one!). 
Posted by: Tennie Dec 11 2008, 07:50 PM
(And Darmian).
Posted by: Astafjevs Dec 11 2008, 08:16 PM
Senderos.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Dec 11 2008, 08:39 PM
He said senderos already...
So that leaves us with 4 actual CBs [one on whom has just turned 19 an is yet to played by Ancelotti in Serie A this season, with just one sub appearance in the previous] and a WB that plays a CB role when desperately needed be done! 'Fantastic'
Posted by: Astafjevs Dec 11 2008, 09:55 PM
Oh. I must have just ignored/blocked his name out. Perfectly understandable thing to do.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Dec 11 2008, 11:21 PM
Hahaha
Certainly is!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Dec 11 2008, 11:45 PM
and i have no faith in kaladze but in the big match he does perform but we all know that his mistakes usually are the most deadly ones goals and penelties are conceded
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 5 2009, 11:00 PM
Milan have extended their contract with Daniele till 2013.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 5 2009, 11:54 PM
Good, he isn't bad.
Posted by: Zed.D Jun 6 2009, 08:34 AM
Agreed. he's a quality player to have as a backup.
Posted by: Ry4n Jun 6 2009, 09:31 AM
Fixed.....hes good at Right back !!
Posted by: Zed.D Jun 6 2009, 10:56 AM
I think he's a level below Milan's starting XI. that's why I think he's a quality player to have on bench.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jun 6 2009, 11:01 AM
he should be considered as CB more than RB imo
Posted by: Ry4n Jun 6 2009, 02:41 PM
true
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jun 6 2009, 05:24 PM
I think he's a level below Milan's starting XI. that's why I think he's a quality player to have on bench.
+1
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Oct 15 2011, 09:47 PM
AC Milan's Daniele Bonera completed each of his 44 passes tonight vs Palermo after replacing injured Thiago Silva.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Oct 15 2011, 10:20 PM
Dare i magnify his second non-disastrous game in a row...
Posted by: X-Offender Oct 15 2011, 10:21 PM
In a row? He aided Marchisio's first goal against Juve.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 15 2011, 10:48 PM
Yeah. Two games in a row would be a small miracle.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Oct 19 2011, 06:52 PM
oops i forgot that game
i meant the last 2 games i saw him play 
unsure which one though...
Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 21 2012, 02:50 PM
RUMOR: Rubin Kazan would be interested in Bonera. Milan values him in 4m
Posted by: acid911 Feb 21 2012, 02:59 PM
So would we, Rubin. 
So should we!
Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 21 2012, 05:28 PM
I would make Rubin my fav Russian team if they buy him.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 7 2012, 11:44 PM
Totally random thing (and utterly unimportant) but anyway - just crossed my mind that he may be our most misspelled guy. So far I remember:
-Boner
-Bonerra
-Bonnerra
-Bonnera
Posted by: X-Offender Oct 8 2012, 12:27 AM
Boner
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 8 2012, 08:56 AM
Well, yeah, I remember people spelling him like that without the funny connotation.
Posted by: Ry4n Nov 24 2012, 01:27 PM
Crap defender. What happened to his Parma days ?
Posted by: Jack Bauer May 13 2013, 06:36 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/34154/italian-trio-watch-bonera
Please go.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 13 2013, 07:01 PM
Roma would be the ideal destination for him.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 13 2013, 07:01 PM
Roma would be the ideal destination for him.
Posted by: Zed.D May 13 2013, 07:51 PM
Roma would be too good for him. he's a Genoa-level player.
Posted by: Danny Dec 23 2013, 11:42 PM
I don't think any of us saw a run like this coming from Bonera.
He has been, frankly, outstanding recently - one of our best players and definitely the best V Inter. I didn't see him coming back to this effect, but honestly he's better now than he's ever been - his positional sense has vastly improved, his timing is better, he's SO much better in the air than he used to be, and he even shows composure and class on the ball now.
And skill...
I didn't see this coming, but as long as he keeps this level up, Mexes has his work cut out to get back in.
Maybe he's simply improved with age. Who knows.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 24 2013, 07:48 AM
I believe the lack of quality makes him shine like that
Posted by: Danny Dec 24 2013, 11:39 AM
So you think all of Mexes, Zapata and Silvestre are inferior players?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 24 2013, 12:21 PM
Bonera has been doing recently what I suppose we all hoped when we signed him. He was a decent enough Serie A defender that was signed to fill in if a starter needed a rest/injury and to do a job. That's exactly what he's been doing.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 24 2013, 12:23 PM
I think he meant overall. But yes, all of them lack the true qualities of an all round Italian defender. Bonera used to be Italy's big hope, and he had the luck to play along Billy, Sandro and Paolo. So he did learn a few tricks here and there. That's what makes him now so different.
Posted by: KillerMax Dec 24 2013, 07:45 PM
Agree with both Kurt and Simone.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Dec 26 2013, 04:38 AM
Tbh..I don't give a damn right now about potential and capability and class. Under Allegri that just doesn't seem to have mattered.
What I care about is form. And going by that, Bonera is quite possibly our best player right now.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 26 2013, 10:14 AM
Opinions change so fast, in the space of three months, Bonera moved from then player 'some' wrote on a list for out-going players, today he is being considered as our best.
The ruler is straight like that
Posted by: han2503 Dec 26 2013, 10:57 AM
The ruler is straight like that
Let's wait until he has one of his horror shows and he'll be back on the out-going list so fast for people it will make your head spin
For me Bonera is still the same player he was just a month ago and just last season. He's a good rotation player to have in case of injuries but you simply cannot rely on him as a starter because you will get burned sooner rather than later, yes he's currently on form but I'm usually just waiting for that mistake to happen during a game which is why I don't really trust him
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 26 2013, 11:16 AM
If only you could see Monto in the same light
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 26 2013, 01:23 PM
Indeed.
Posted by: han2503 Dec 26 2013, 02:08 PM
When does Monto make mistakes that cost us games?
Posted by: Danny Dec 26 2013, 02:35 PM
The ruler is straight like that
Because, in my humble opinion, he isn't the same Bonera he was 3 months ago.
He used to be clumsy, he used to have little positional sense, he lacked composure on the ball, and he made errors.
Nowadays he is none of these things. He's a different player, and he's done it now consistently for the past 6 games. If it had been one match, sure I'd have ignored it as a blip. 2 matches, borderline same. 3 matches...hmmm....4 matches...this guy is showing real form and consistency. 6 matches down the line and he's actually getting better.
Like Jack (and myself) says, it's about form. And he's on a hot streak which makes him first-choice for the foreseeable future. Either that is a temporary bizarre spike of form, or he's not the same player. Given it's 6 impressive displays, I opt for the latter.
It'll be a Rami/Bonera central defence January onwards imo.
Posted by: Danny Dec 26 2013, 02:38 PM
No he hasn't, he's been our best player. We didn't expect that when we signed him from Parma. And he hasn't been anything like our best player in the years we've had him.
Suddenly, right now, he's surpassed even De Jong as our most consistent impressive player.
We signed him as a squad player. All he's ever been. Till the past 6 matches where he's clearly taken Mexes' slot - initially out of necessity, but now out of sheer form. And deservedly so.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 26 2013, 06:08 PM
Then you don't know Bonera that good.
First of all, I don't believe a player can change over the course of 3 months. Certainly not an 32 year old veteran.
But the thing is, this display he's showing isn't out of character at all. He's been good for us in the past as well, his problem always was consistency: his good run eventually got stopped by an injury or a horror performance. And he really had a few of those as well.
What's different now? Firstly, he has less competition. Secondly, he's been played as CB and not as an LB or RB. And thirdly, ever since Nesta left we've been lacking that type of Italian allround defender. Now Bonera is not even near to Sandro, but in a world of Barzagli's and Zapata's, he's a rare breed.
So I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt. I'll watch him closely, praise or criticize when necessary. But we shouldn't jump the conclusions and say he's a new man now.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 26 2013, 06:10 PM
Well, defenders or strikers usually do that, while Montolivo has a better position. But the point is, Montolivo is terribly inconsistent, just like Bonera. In fact, I'm really starting to like this parallel. Apart from Bonera's injuries, both are much alike. Big talents as youngsters that never materialized fully.
Posted by: han2503 Dec 26 2013, 07:23 PM
He used to be clumsy, he used to have little positional sense, he lacked composure on the ball, and he made errors.
Nowadays he is none of these things. He's a different player, and he's done it now consistently for the past 6 games. If it had been one match, sure I'd have ignored it as a blip. 2 matches, borderline same. 3 matches...hmmm....4 matches...this guy is showing real form and consistency. 6 matches down the line and he's actually getting better.
Like Jack (and myself) says, it's about form. And he's on a hot streak which makes him first-choice for the foreseeable future. Either that is a temporary bizarre spike of form, or he's not the same player. Given it's 6 impressive displays, I opt for the latter.
It'll be a Rami/Bonera central defence January onwards imo.
Cannot disagree with you more.
Bonera has shown us these same kinds of performances before, maybe even more frequently back then before he suffered various long term injuries.
I remember 06/07, he had an amazing run of performances, some really eye catching performances. And usually he has a handful of good ones each season. But then comes that one game, that one game when everyone rues the day they said anything good about him
I'm too lazy to search this forum, but it's filled with 100s of posts of evidence of how people blow hot and cold when it comes to Bonera.
Like Fillipo said, you don't suddenly wake up one day and become great, you either are or you aren't and Bonera simply isn't. He's good, and can be dependable, but nothing more
Posted by: han2503 Dec 26 2013, 07:24 PM
I think he's the opposite of inconsistent actually. Last season he was consistently good, while this season he's been consistently average with a couple of good games sprinkled in. That has to do with form imo, not inconsistency.
Bonera is just unpredictable.
Posted by: KillerMax Dec 26 2013, 08:26 PM
First of all, I don't believe a player can change over the course of 3 months. Certainly not an 32 year old veteran.
But the thing is, this display he's showing isn't out of character at all. He's been good for us in the past as well, his problem always was consistency: his good run eventually got stopped by an injury or a horror performance. And he really had a few of those as well.
What's different now? Firstly, he has less competition. Secondly, he's been played as CB and not as an LB or RB. And thirdly, ever since Nesta left we've been lacking that type of Italian allround defender. Now Bonera is not even near to Sandro, but in a world of Barzagli's and Zapata's, he's a rare breed.
So I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt. I'll watch him closely, praise or criticize when necessary. But we shouldn't jump the conclusions and say he's a new man now.
Great post. Have nothing to add.
Posted by: KillerMax Dec 26 2013, 08:27 PM
Bonera is just unpredictable.
You are downplaying Monto's bad form. He has had more horrendous games this season than I can remember. Not just 'average'.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 26 2013, 09:15 PM
Bonera is just unpredictable.
Form? If you play a overall horrible season it's not just about form. He's lucky this isn't the old Milan and we have tools like Muntari and Niang who fill the yellow pages; his Ajax debacle was on this track.
Average? I'd say he's been bad to horrible with a few exemptions.
Overall he's had one solid or good season; before that he was average at Fiorentina for more then a season, and now he's bad with us. I'd say he's pretty much inconsistent.
Posted by: han2503 Dec 26 2013, 10:39 PM
Average? I'd say he's been bad to horrible with a few exemptions.
Overall he's had one solid or good season; before that he was average at Fiorentina for more then a season, and now he's bad with us. I'd say he's pretty much inconsistent.
Him being bad with Fiorentina had more to do with the fact that he wanted out and they wouldn't let him leave.
He's had 1 great season with us and now this one. Had he not been given the captain's armband it would have been judged as an average season so far. But that captain's armband just raises people's expectations to a degree that even if he was having a good season, Monto would still be judged as unworthy of it, simply because of the symbolism it has, so now that he's not performing to the standard he set for himself last season it's projecting even worse.
The Ajax game is the only instance where he cost us in all the games he's played, I don't remember any other incident where you can attribute lost points directly to him, and yes you do have a point that strikers and defenders are more in the "limelight" in these types of instances, but midfielders can still cost you games, ask Muntari and Nocerino
Posted by: Danny Dec 27 2013, 12:14 AM
I respectfully disagree.
But the thing is, this display he's showing isn't out of character at all. He's been good for us in the past as well, his problem always was consistency: his good run eventually got stopped by an injury or a horror performance. And he really had a few of those as well.
So did Maldini, what's your point? And no, I'm not saying he's as good as Paolo, I'm just pointing out that you can label the injury/inconsistency criticism at absolutely every single defender in the world. Best defender is arguably Kompany right now - yet he had an average season last year.
I don't feel you can aim that criticism at Bonera more than anyone else.
I don't remember Bonera producing defending of this quality and I've watched him since we signed him.
He doesn't remotely resemble the Bonera of old IMO. And the Bonera of old rarely to never won MOTM awards.
I feel he's upped his game. And I stick by that. I'm sure he'll have poor displays now and again, he's human. But I can't remember him being this solid in the air before, or being able to read the game as well.
Is it not possible that he's maturing with age - maturing as a defender. Remember he played less than 15 times last season so it's not like he's been a total regular that we've been watching like a hawk in recent seasons. Mexes and Zapata owned defence last season. This year the backline has been a mess, including Mexes, and until recently Zapata.
I just think you guys are being harsh on him.
Posted by: Danny Dec 27 2013, 12:23 AM
PS his last consistent run for us before his injury when he played 6 matches or more in a row (near enough) was tail end of last year. He wasn't half as good then as he has been recently.
Maybe 3 months was too short a timescale to refer to, but I just don't recall him being as impressive as this in the distant past.
Perhaps I am being wrecked this season by the travesties that are Mexes, Zaps (till recently), and Silvestre at the back and my standards have maybe dropped, maybe; but Bonera has been far better than them all in the past 6 matches bar Zaps V Roma where it was a close thing.
So, guys, who do you lot think will be our CB pairing next month with Rami's arrival then?
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 27 2013, 12:58 AM
You consider his last season with us as great? I'd say it was average to good, but certainly not great.
@Danny: I agree wholeheartedly with han and Fillipo. The truth is, Bonera has had sparks like this in the past as well. You don't remember them, but I do. In 06/07, for example, he played some of his best games with us alongside Maldini.
As for your last question, for me Mexes and Rami should be by default our starting pairing in the back, but knowing Allegri he'll pull some crap like he usually does.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 27 2013, 01:01 AM
He's had 1 great season with us and now this one. Had he not been given the captain's armband it would have been judged as an average season so far. But that captain's armband just raises people's expectations to a degree that even if he was having a good season, Monto would still be judged as unworthy of it, simply because of the symbolism it has, so now that he's not performing to the standard he set for himself last season it's projecting even worse.
The Ajax game is the only instance where he cost us in all the games he's played, I don't remember any other incident where you can attribute lost points directly to him, and yes you do have a point that strikers and defenders are more in the "limelight" in these types of instances, but midfielders can still cost you games, ask Muntari and Nocerino
I just think that when it comes to Montolivo your objectivity tunes down a bit. Don't know why, but that's my feeling.
You say he had a great season? Well, you know my answer, but I won't get into it, because it'll look as a semantic contest now. We simply disagree when it comes to judging Montolivo's performances.
I'm okay with that, it's normal.
Bonera isn't comparable with Maldini on any level. Maldini was a complete defender; he had some downs - like every defender. But world class defenders like Costacurta, Maldini, Baresi and Nesta all were awfully consistent. Even on a bad day, they'd still do some good and only rarely got embarrassed by their opposition. Bonera on the other hand had only a handful of great performances, followed by many horror shows and some average showings as well. He never had one consistently good season for Milan: injuries, form and roster quality prevented this.
Han mentioned the United game. He had some more as I recall.
I feel he's upped his game. And I stick by that. I'm sure he'll have poor displays now and again, he's human. But I can't remember him being this solid in the air before, or being able to read the game as well.
Is it not possible that he's maturing with age - maturing as a defender. Remember he played less than 15 times last season so it's not like he's been a total regular that we've been watching like a hawk in recent seasons. Mexes and Zapata owned defence last season. This year the backline has been a mess, including Mexes, and until recently Zapata.
Yes, I can agree that he might matured a bit. And the point that he didn't play much in the last couple of seasons makes us hard to tell on his progress either. Here we agree.
We'll see. Knowing Allegri, he'll make a mess out of it.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Dec 27 2013, 07:17 AM
Well I don't think it's important to pass judgement on what is a positive development. At Newcastle, I'm finding it hard to believe that Williamson has actually benched Yanga-Mbiwa but there you go.
And Newcastle are right now 6th and we just destroyed a team 5-1 not to mention beating Man U and Chelsea. Is Williamson the cause for this better composure at the back and all that?
Maybe.
It's the same with Bonera. Perhaps the current composition of the team and the strategy suits his gameplay more. Centre Backs are never the same the world over and their job description often varies. And the strategy always varies. Nesta was a brilliant stopper/man marker with great ball control. Silva was a ball playing defender with accurate positioning. Fortunately it clicked, and we started this tendency of playing the ball out from the back with Silva being our deep lying playmaker before Pirlo. And Nesta being more of a sweeper behind.
Bonera now plays that role more. He is good with those balls at his feet, always has been, biggest surprise like Danny said is his reading of the game has gone up leaps and bounds. It could be his age. He is perhaps a lot more relaxed and calm on the game. Could be anything. I don't give a shite what it is. My ego is not the least bit hurt to see Daniele being the best CB on this team or him keeping Mexes on the bench. I don't care. Mexes can be greater than Silva and Kompany combined as an individual, but I'll take the man who is delivering for 6 games on a trot.
I see no point in 'planning to fail'. Carry an umbrella with you, if you're going to walk around with it open coz you think it might rain you're being silly.
Posted by: han2503 Dec 27 2013, 09:46 AM
You say he had a great season? Well, you know my answer, but I won't get into it, because it'll look as a semantic contest now. We simply disagree when it comes to judging Montolivo's performances.
I'm okay with that, it's normal.
I guess I get defensive about it because I feel that people are judging him harshly and most of that is based on the fact that he was GIVEN (NOT REQUESTED) the captaincy and people are bitter about that.
And people on here went on and on about how great and important he was for us last season, even YOU (who was especially against him at the beginning) acknowledged how important he was for us and that his performances were unexpected for you.
But now because of that captaincy some people are even viewing last season through a different pair of glasses.
I agree, he's not captain material, certainly not at a club like Milan, and I also agree that this season, aside from a small handful of games he's been below par, and this is magnified by the fact that he's captain. But I think he's also judged very harshly by some simply for the reason that he's wearing that armband
I remember in 06/07 there was one particular game where he literally cleared it off the line Nesta-style. This was during that run me, you and x-off are talking about next to Paolo. He was undoubtedly MoM then
And Danny, you're making a point about him not being picked as MoM then as opposed to him being voted MoM for 2 games now. Well back then we had a roster full of star players, now we have this squad. Kind of easier don't you think?
Posted by: han2503 Dec 27 2013, 09:48 AM
And Newcastle are right now 6th and we just destroyed a team 5-1 not to mention beating Man U and Chelsea. Is Williamson the cause for this better composure at the back and all that?
Maybe.
It's the same with Bonera. Perhaps the current composition of the team and the strategy suits his gameplay more. Centre Backs are never the same the world over and their job description often varies. And the strategy always varies. Nesta was a brilliant stopper/man marker with great ball control. Silva was a ball playing defender with accurate positioning. Fortunately it clicked, and we started this tendency of playing the ball out from the back with Silva being our deep lying playmaker before Pirlo. And Nesta being more of a sweeper behind.
Bonera now plays that role more. He is good with those balls at his feet, always has been, biggest surprise like Danny said is his reading of the game has gone up leaps and bounds. It could be his age. He is perhaps a lot more relaxed and calm on the game. Could be anything. I don't give a shite what it is. My ego is not the least bit hurt to see Daniele being the best CB on this team or him keeping Mexes on the bench. I don't care. Mexes can be greater than Silva and Kompany combined as an individual, but I'll take the man who is delivering for 6 games on a trot.
I see no point in 'planning to fail'. Carry an umbrella with you, if you're going to walk around with it open coz you think it might rain you're being silly.
Can't agree Jack, one of the biggest reasons I don't like Bonera next to Zapata is because they're both cr@p at playing it out of the back. Mexes has a better passing percentage than our midfielders, when Bonera and ESPECIALLY Zapata try to come out with it from the back or try something fancy we usually end up on the back foot.
I think that any good CB pairing needs at least one defender to not only be that but a great all round footballer, Mexes is definitely that, Bonera and Zapata simply aren't. Rami, from what I've seen is also great with the ball at his feet
Posted by: Danny Dec 27 2013, 12:05 PM
What's normal, me being respectful towards you or disagreeing with you? Because the former is, but the latter seems a bit harsh. I don't just disagree with you (or anyone else) for the sake of it.
Posted by: Danny Dec 27 2013, 12:06 PM
And Newcastle are right now 6th and we just destroyed a team 5-1 not to mention beating Man U and Chelsea. Is Williamson the cause for this better composure at the back and all that?
Maybe.
It's the same with Bonera. Perhaps the current composition of the team and the strategy suits his gameplay more. Centre Backs are never the same the world over and their job description often varies. And the strategy always varies. Nesta was a brilliant stopper/man marker with great ball control. Silva was a ball playing defender with accurate positioning. Fortunately it clicked, and we started this tendency of playing the ball out from the back with Silva being our deep lying playmaker before Pirlo. And Nesta being more of a sweeper behind.
Bonera now plays that role more. He is good with those balls at his feet, always has been, biggest surprise like Danny said is his reading of the game has gone up leaps and bounds. It could be his age. He is perhaps a lot more relaxed and calm on the game. Could be anything. I don't give a shite what it is. My ego is not the least bit hurt to see Daniele being the best CB on this team or him keeping Mexes on the bench. I don't care. Mexes can be greater than Silva and Kompany combined as an individual, but I'll take the man who is delivering for 6 games on a trot.
I see no point in 'planning to fail'. Carry an umbrella with you, if you're going to walk around with it open coz you think it might rain you're being silly.
I have nothing more to add to this.
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 2 2015, 07:21 PM
Signed for Villareal.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 2 2015, 07:26 PM
A bit surprised. Capri and Chievo mentioned, but Villareal that's...very unpredictable. I wish him the best.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 2 2015, 07:48 PM
He isn't that bad of a player, thats why. 
Had a whole bunch of horrific lapses in concentration and errors in defensive judgments, but there was a time when he seemed like he had potential. Heck, dst once thought fairly highly of him. That's when he played alongside Maldini and Nesta.
Sadly that was to be his peak, one feels. Wish him best of luck, nevertheless, was never a bad guy to begin with, not a troublemaker or a fire starter, the likes of which we have been treated to recently.
Posted by: Danny Sep 2 2015, 08:25 PM
His flaw was positional sense. It wasn't the best.
His strength was willing to put his body where it hurt, and strength in the air.
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