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post Sep 14 2016, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2016, 05:20 PM) *
2 of them have already failed terribly while Man U have spent record sums... Not the best advertisement there Jack. And Mourinho is off to a rocky start as well. Getting outplayed like that is such a highly touted fixture is not something to write home about. I'm sure he will do well overall, but I don't think he'll win the title tbh

I doubt he'll win the title. He took over a pretty bad team. People seem to focus a lot on the Pogba transfer and ignore the fact that Man City - who had a much superior squad to begin with - spent more than Man U this summer, even though Man U broke the transfer record.

As for Fellaini, if you compare reputation to ability, he's one of the most underrated players around. He's started the season on fire, winning the ball back a ridiculous amount.
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post Sep 18 2016, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 14 2016, 12:27 PM) *
I doubt he'll win the title. He took over a pretty bad team. People seem to focus a lot on the Pogba transfer and ignore the fact that Man City - who had a much superior squad to begin with - spent more than Man U this summer, even though Man U broke the transfer record.

As for Fellaini, if you compare reputation to ability, he's one of the most underrated players around. He's started the season on fire, winning the ball back a ridiculous amount.

Does simply winning the ball justify his overall presence on the pitch? I personally don't think so.

3-1 loss today as well. after the defeat to City and in the EL.
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post Sep 18 2016, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 18 2016, 03:19 PM) *
Does simply winning the ball justify his overall presence on the pitch? I personally don't think so.

I never said that. He happens to be exceptional at winning the ball back. He's also a very big threat in the box and allows Man U's midfield to put a physical stamp on the game.

I think Man U are still a year or 2 off being able to compete. Defensively they are a mess and they're a bit like Madrid of 4/5 years ago in that they have arguably the most overrated goalkeeper in the planet. Rashford/Martial are still not ready yet. Mata and Depay are awful.

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post Aug 2 2017, 12:23 PM
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Today's word is schadenfreude. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cookie.gif)
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post Aug 2 2017, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 2 2017, 06:53 PM) *
Today's word is schadenfreude. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cookie.gif)


What? I don't see where and how? Did something happen? Neymar to PSG?
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post Aug 2 2017, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 2 2017, 08:35 AM) *
Neymar to PSG?


That would be it.
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post Aug 2 2017, 02:43 PM
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I'm not really sure how that's schadenfreude?
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post Aug 2 2017, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 2 2017, 09:43 AM) *
I'm not really sure how that's schadenfreude?


It is if you're watching Barca twitter melt down.
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post Aug 2 2017, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 2 2017, 09:52 PM) *
It is if you're watching Barca twitter melt down.


I saw a bunch of people act like it's totally justified. Neymar is poison and should move on. They will buy Veratti and Coutinho and some fullback etc etc.

Non-Barca fans are sticking up for Neymar saying he's being pushed out by Messi and Suarez and it's a Latin American racist thing etc. etc.
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post Aug 2 2017, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 2 2017, 10:24 AM) *
I saw a bunch of people act like it's totally justified. Neymar is poison and should move on. They will buy Veratti and Coutinho and some fullback etc etc.

Non-Barca fans are sticking up for Neymar saying he's being pushed out by Messi and Suarez and it's a Latin American racist thing etc. etc.


There are also the 'Neymar is a traitor' folks, the 'Neymar only wants money' folks (not always the same group), and the 'now the Board will waste the money' folks.

Personally, I think money played a big part (Neymar and his father seem very fond of lots of $$), but I suspect there's also an element of being the star of the team out from Messi's shadow to it as well.
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post Aug 2 2017, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 2 2017, 03:22 PM) *
It is if you're watching Barca twitter melt down.


Ah, yes, I thought you meant on Neymar's part. Barca fans can go f*ck themselves as can their club.

I also find it hilarious they put in a 222M release clause and when a team actually legitimately activates it they grass them up to Uefa.

Disgusting football club, dislike them intensely.
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QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 2 2017, 03:41 PM) *
Personally, I think money played a big part (Neymar and his father seem very fond of lots of $$), but I suspect there's also an element of being the star of the team out from Messi's shadow to it as well.


That's all there is. Neymar's ego expects to be the main man. He thought he'd be it by now. If an entire country idolises him as the modern Pele or Ronaldo, he expects to have earned it from his club's city by now.

But nowhere near it, and Messi stays as the power.

Neymar wants to be number one, and while it's an immature way to be, you could equally argue it's justified with the ability the guy has.

And it'll never happen at Barca.
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post Aug 2 2017, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 2 2017, 03:24 PM) *
I saw a bunch of people act like it's totally justified. Neymar is poison and should move on. They will buy Veratti and Coutinho and some fullback etc etc.

Non-Barca fans are sticking up for Neymar saying he's being pushed out by Messi and Suarez and it's a Latin American racist thing etc. etc.


He's not being pushed out. He's got to a point in his career where he expects to be the top dog. And with Messi ahead of him it won't happen at Barca, so he's going somewhere he will be the main man.

And PSG are flirting with being a European superpower - with the addition of Neymar they could make that final step.

But no one is ready for Milan's assault (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

COMIN' ATCHA!
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post Aug 2 2017, 03:59 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40804584

Really good article. Nails my point.
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post Aug 2 2017, 04:52 PM
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I really don't believe any of that. It's just a matter of $$$, nothing more. If he really wants to be the best, PSG and the French league certainly ain't the way to do it.
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