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post May 27 2017, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 27 2017, 11:28 AM) *
Monaco actually rejected £110M for Mbappe from Real.


No way. For that amount Monaco would sell half their team.
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post May 27 2017, 12:36 PM
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Being linked to Tolisso and Moussa Dembele. How good is the latter, Danny?
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post May 27 2017, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 27 2017, 11:37 AM) *
No way. For that amount Monaco would sell half their team.


Nope. They don't need to sell anyone. They're in a financially enviable position. They'd only sell if a player truly wants to leave, which was the case with Silva. Unless they get an offer they can't refuse for Mbappe, they'll reject. Unless he says he wants to go.
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post May 27 2017, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 27 2017, 12:36 PM) *
Being linked to Tolisso and Moussa Dembele. How good is the latter, Danny?


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeird. He really on the horizon? This would be the first time Milan had signed a Celtic player in...ever?

He's their best player. He's been exceptional in the league but then the Scottish league can make average look good, and good look great. Hard to judge him in light of it being SPL but if you take that away from the equation he's the complete forward and will only get better. But then he might be terrible in a better league, albeit he did do it just as much in the UCL as he did in the SPL.

From what I've seen he's strong, quick, got a velcro first touch, clinical, and he's only 20.

I'm conflicted. I don't want a Celtic player. But I do want good players.
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post May 28 2017, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 27 2017, 01:39 AM) *
That's a monster move. Is he worth that much? I say with 60 million we can sign someone better.

Who?
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post May 28 2017, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 28 2017, 03:11 PM) *
Who?


Aguero.

Morata is too lightweight, he cannot be a +20 goals forward. Even in a club like Madrid he's only scored 20 goals this season in 42 appearances. His previous record at Juve is abysmal.

No, we should aim for someone who's a surefire thing, not a 60 million gamble.
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post May 29 2017, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 28 2017, 06:52 PM) *
Aguero.

Morata is too lightweight, he cannot be a +20 goals forward. Even in a club like Madrid he's only scored 20 goals this season in 42 appearances. His previous record at Juve is abysmal.

No, we should aim for someone who's a surefire thing, not a 60 million gamble.


Aguero would cost at least £80M. That's 90-100M euros.

PS: I see you completely ignored his career stats which show Morata is excellent. And how you can call 20 in 42 'only' is just bias against the player.

Don't know what your problem with him is

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post May 29 2017, 11:30 AM
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20 goals with Real as a sub/bench player isn't bad at all IMO. For Juventus he scored 27 goals in 63 matches in Serie A, and 7 goals in 15 CL matches. That's not abysmal at all.

But yes, Agüero and Aubameyang would be great (even though I despise Agüero and I don't think he's Milan-worthy, more of a typical Inter player). I'm not sure if Sergio would want to move to Milan though.
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post May 29 2017, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 29 2017, 11:24 AM) *
Aguero would cost at least £80M. That's 90-100M euros.

PS: I see you completely ignored his career stats which show Morata is excellent. And how you can call 20 in 42 'only' is just bias against the player.

Don't know what your problem with him is


Last I read, City were willing to sell him for £50M.

And I have no problem with Morata. I just don't rate him that much. Scoring 20 goals in 42 appearances with a team like Madrid isn't that much of an impressive feat IMHO.

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20 goals with Real as a sub/bench player isn't bad at all IMO. For Juventus he scored 27 goals in 63 matches in Serie A, and 7 goals in 15 CL matches. That's not abysmal at all.


Come again? He scored 15 goals in 63 appearances, not 27. That's absolutely terrible.
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post May 29 2017, 09:07 PM
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Tomorrow Kessie will undergo his medical. He'll be the second official signing after Musacchio. Ricardo Rodriguez should be next.

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Bertolacci is not part of the club's plans for next season and will be put on the mercato. His value currently is somewhere around €10 million, thus in order to avoid a loss (we paid €21 million for him) the player might be sent on loan for the time being.

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post May 29 2017, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 29 2017, 09:01 PM) *
Last I read, City were willing to sell him for £50M.

And I have no problem with Morata. I just don't rate him that much. Scoring 20 goals in 42 appearances with a team like Madrid isn't that much of an impressive feat IMHO.



Come again? He scored 15 goals in 63 appearances, not 27. That's absolutely terrible.

Morata's numbers this season are better than Benzema's if I'm not mistaken (saw a stat of goals per minute for each this season and Morata's is slightly better)

I personally think he's a great choice. He's at the perfect age for a striker, still yet to reach his peak but out of that inconsistent phase that most strikers tend to go through when they're younger. Aguero is someone I greatly admire but I don't think he's even being considered.

Plus I think having Morata on the team would be a good incentive if we try to go for Cesc this summer (no matter how much of a longshot that'll be)

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Tomorrow Kessie will undergo his medical. He'll be the second official signing after Musacchio. Ricardo Rodriguez should be next.

Link

Bertolacci is not part of the club's plans for next season and will be put on the mercato. His value currently is somewhere around €10 million, thus in order to avoid a loss (we paid €21 million for him) the player might be sent on loan for the time being.

Link

Great news about Kessie and Rodriguez, I'm honestly very impressed with how quick F & M are accomplishing things. I think they'll make these types of signings now and leave 1 or 2 really big signings for later in the season

Last I read as well is that Poli is close to going to Bologna, Sosa could be sold to a Turkish team (honestly can't spell their name), Kucka is also rumoured to be going to the same destination as Sosa.

We're also going to try and renew Pasalic's loan (I don't think we'll buy him if Chelsea reject the loan option)

Niang (that f@cker) wants to come back, but there's apparently interest from Everton (offering about 15m according to rumours, so we'll see). I don't think he'll be here next season either way. He'll either be sold to and EPL side or be used as part of some deal with a Serie A side

The management have no intention of keeping Deulo either, Ocampos is going back to wherever he came from, Honda confirmed he's leaving, Montella pretty much said that Bacca is a goner as well (something along the lines of he was proud to have coached someone like him), DS is gone as well.

These are basically the persistent rumours we keep seeing on who will be leaving, I think some others will leave too (Zapata, Vangioni, Calabria (loan), and Lapadula could also be sold/let go) so there will have to be a massive rebuild this summer, and not just the starting 11, especially keeping in mind that we'll have a difficult fixture list next season due to EL action
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post May 29 2017, 09:34 PM
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@TheMilanBible - Kessie's move to Milan is expected to be a 2-year loan + obligations to buy. [Sky]

@MilanEye - Likely transfer formula which will see Kessie join Milan is two-year loan with obligation to buy. Transfer fee €28m including bonuses [Sky].

@MilanEye - Musacchio's transfer to Milan will most likely become official tomorrow.

@TheMilanBible - Bologna are interested in signing Paletta (along with Poli) and Milan would not be against his sale. [@MilanNewsit]

@TheMilanBible - Montella is heading towards a contract renewal until 2019. Today there was an important meeting with Fassone. [Gazzetta]

@TheMilanBible - Along with Honda, Deulofeu, Mati Fernandez and Pasalic are almost certain to leave. Milan are hoping for a good offer for Bacca. [Gazzetta]

The Kessie move is brilliant imo. The 28m we'll be paying won't come into effect for another 2 years, so his slightly hefty price tag won't effect our budget at all for this summer. So basically if we're just looking at Musacchio and Rodriguez, we've only spent between 36 to 40m so far out of what's reported to be a 150m to 200m budget + whatever we get from player sales (and we could be paying for both players in instalments which would effect our budget even less so)
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post May 29 2017, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 29 2017, 09:01 PM) *
Last I read, City were willing to sell him for £50M.


Might want to check that.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/07/chelsea-woul...aguero-6433968/

And that was months ago before money got even sillier. He's probably 100M now.

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And I have no problem with Morata. I just don't rate him that much. Scoring 20 goals in 42 appearances with a team like Madrid isn't that much of an impressive feat IMHO.


Appearances. Not starts. Most of those were off the bench. You don't think one in two is good for a fringe player regardless of the team?
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post May 29 2017, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 29 2017, 09:19 PM) *
Morata's numbers this season are better than Benzema's if I'm not mistaken (saw a stat of goals per minute for each this season and Morata's is slightly better)

I personally think he's a great choice. He's at the perfect age for a striker, still yet to reach his peak but out of that inconsistent phase that most strikers tend to go through when they're younger. Aguero is someone I greatly admire but I don't think he's even being considered.


I think Aguero has seen better days. He's injured far too much and while he's top dollar, IMO he's not even the best striker in the EPL for my money. That for me is Costa. I think for where we are and where we're trying to go, Morata is a terrific signing.

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Plus I think having Morata on the team would be a good incentive if we try to go for Cesc this summer (no matter how much of a longshot that'll be)


I've heard we're interested again. He's spoken up the idea of leaving and the price is said to be 30M.

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Great news about Kessie and Rodriguez, I'm honestly very impressed with how quick F & M are accomplishing things. I think they'll make these types of signings now and leave 1 or 2 really big signings for later in the season

Last I read as well is that Poli is close to going to Bologna, Sosa could be sold to a Turkish team (honestly can't spell their name), Kucka is also rumoured to be going to the same destination as Sosa.

We're also going to try and renew Pasalic's loan (I don't think we'll buy him if Chelsea reject the loan option)

Niang (that f@cker) wants to come back, but there's apparently interest from Everton (offering about 15m according to rumours, so we'll see). I don't think he'll be here next season either way. He'll either be sold to and EPL side or be used as part of some deal with a Serie A side

The management have no intention of keeping Deulo either, Ocampos is going back to wherever he came from, Honda confirmed he's leaving, Montella pretty much said that Bacca is a goner as well (something along the lines of he was proud to have coached someone like him), DS is gone as well.

These are basically the persistent rumours we keep seeing on who will be leaving, I think some others will leave too (Zapata, Vangioni, Calabria (loan), and Lapadula could also be sold/let go) so there will have to be a massive rebuild this summer, and not just the starting 11, especially keeping in mind that we'll have a difficult fixture list next season due to EL action


Happy with pretty much all this. Just want shot of Suso too but I know I'm minority with that one.
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post May 30 2017, 04:32 PM
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De Sciglio to Juventus is almost a done deal for €12M. [Quotidiano Sportivo]

For 12m I'd let him rot on the stands. We shouldn't do Juve any favours and try to push him to a foreign club.

It is possible Storari signs his contract at Casa Milan tomorrow, according to Sky.

OFFICIAL: Vincenzo Montella has renewed his contract with Milan until 2019.

OFFICIAL: Mateo Musacchio has joined Milan until June 30, 2021.

Milan have offered Biglia €2.5M/year + €500K in bonuses should he reach 25 appearances. Milan waiting for the players response. [Sky]

#ACMilan announces the contract renewal with @VMontella through to 30 June 2019


Forget what I said in the match thread Forza Milan, looks like Sky are also confirming that Kessie had an issue with his medical and will have to undergo further tests at Milanello

Kessie will need additional examinations before signing for Milan, as a slight physical problem must be evaluated. [Sky]

Kessie will undergo further tests in the afternoon and then more tests at Milanello tomorrow. [MilanNews.it]

GdS are now reporting the offer for Donnarumma is €3.2M/year. Milan are in a hurry & an acceleration in the next few days can't be excluded.

Milan are strongly interested in signing Tolisso from Lyon. He will cost €35-40M. Juve have given up. Premier League clubs interested. [GdS]

Milan are expected to fly out to Spain and meet with Real Madrid next week. Milan to offer €60M + almost €8M in wages to Morata. [Gazzetta]
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