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Posted by: KillerMax Aug 28 2012, 09:59 AM
Full name: M'Baye Babacar Niang
Date of birth: 19 December 1994 (age 17)
Place of birth: Meulan, France
Height: 1.84 m (6 ft 0 in)
Playing position: Striker
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 28 2012, 10:01 AM
Welcome to the circus, boy. Buckle up!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 28 2012, 10:03 AM
Never heard of him before the alleged transfer.
Good luck, I guess 
Posted by: Zed.D Aug 28 2012, 10:24 AM
We share our birthday, I like him already!
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 28 2012, 12:04 PM
is he even officially signed? if not, 2 words. David Suazo
Posted by: amancik Aug 28 2012, 12:12 PM
The official site says he landed in Milan yesterday. And Galliani pretty much admitted it so I think official announcement will come out soon enough.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 01:06 PM
What? We didn't sign Suazo because the player had an agreement with Inter. Niang said he's very happy to be joining Milan.
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 28 2012, 01:29 PM
I don't trust what Niang says
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Posted by: amancik Aug 28 2012, 01:56 PM
Don't worry. It's official now.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 02:00 PM
Pato, Bojan, El Shaarawy, Niang.
I don't ever recall having such a young forward line.
Posted by: amancik Aug 28 2012, 02:03 PM
I don't ever recall having such a young forward line.
Yep, I think this is the first time it has occurred.
Posted by: dst Aug 28 2012, 02:03 PM
Or... Injured, Unwanted, Overrated, Who?
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 02:11 PM
Posted by: William405 Aug 28 2012, 02:14 PM
I think you are too much of a pessimist sir.
http://frenchfootballweekly.com/2012/07/12/very-raw-but-very-talented-caens-mbaye-niang-is-a-wanted-man/
Posted by: Zed.D Aug 28 2012, 02:23 PM
Bojan? did we sign him?
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 02:44 PM
Mediaset says it's a done deal.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 28 2012, 03:28 PM
Allegri should just go 4-2-3-1. We obviously cannot play with the diamond anymore considering the players we have
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 03:34 PM
4-2-3-1 is too complex for Allegri.
Posted by: Danny Aug 28 2012, 03:44 PM
Ok this is news to me.
This is the signing we've been waiting for.
Niang is well known to me. He's a prodigy from Cannes with an incredible left foot, vision and awareness on a par with Iniesta, and it's a sensational coup for us. He could actually change the course of the club's fortunes for us.
And if you believe that you'll believe anything.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 28 2012, 03:45 PM
Anything would be better than a 4-3-1-2 when we don't have the players to play Allegri's system. The midfield was a mess against Samp, the attackers were non-existant and Prince was just plain bad. We absolutely need to try something to fit in the best players we have.
Now that we've signed that Niang and Bojan, I simply cannot understand why they would give Cassano plus actual money that we don't have for Pazzini.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 04:06 PM
We don't have a plan, plain and simple. We sign players aimlessly, without first analyzing the actual needs of the team. Like Italians would say, siamo alla frutta.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Aug 28 2012, 04:13 PM
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2012, 04:15 PM
Wipe that smile off your face, you bald tw@t!
Posted by: dst Aug 28 2012, 06:23 PM
It will happen slowly but steadily... just like for all of us, there won't be any smiles come May...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 29 2012, 11:35 AM
Let's see what this kid will bring.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 10 2012, 05:51 AM
Niang was caught in the Piazza del Popolo driving without a license. Bakaye Traore was in the car with him
Posted by: acid911 Sep 10 2012, 06:50 AM
So this is what the kid will bring?! 
I never get in a car without my license (and papers), like ever.
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 10 2012, 10:13 AM
Haha, you got it wrong. Niang was driving by himself, without a license (the kid's 17), and when the cops stopped him, he told them he was Traoré.
Then they escorted him back to his hotel, where he showed them his ID, therefore miserably failing in his plan. The club said it will take action against the player after it has verified the case.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 10 2012, 11:06 AM
And people say footballers are stupid.
Posted by: KillerMax Sep 10 2012, 11:25 AM
He is settling in perfectly then.
Posted by: dst Sep 10 2012, 11:51 AM
I think his plan was good though.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 10 2012, 12:08 PM
He should have said he's Ambrosini, then they'd let him sly.
Posted by: Zed.D Sep 10 2012, 12:26 PM
Looks like Balotelli, acts like Balotelli. hopefully plays like Balotelli.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 10 2012, 12:28 PM
Posted by: han2503 Sep 10 2012, 12:28 PM
Wow, what an idiot.
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 11 2012, 07:09 AM
Niang via Twitter: "I apologize to all the fans, Galliani, Allegri and my marvelous club. I made a big mistake, but I never said I was Traoré, only that I was driving his car".
Posted by: KillerMax Sep 11 2012, 07:41 AM
Good to hear. 
Posted by: dst Sep 11 2012, 08:14 AM
And how would that help him if it was Traore's car?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2012, 08:22 AM
Keep digging.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2012, 08:25 AM
It will at least rectify the news bit where he said that he was Traore.
At this point I don't know whether he said he was Traore or not, or whether he was driving his car, but if he honestly apologized (even if on Twitter), he's all clear in my books. Provided he doesn't make such mistakes again, even though they can happen anytime, to anyone!This was a very small, but unnecessary and easily avoidable mistake. But it does disrupt the dressing room.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 11 2012, 08:28 AM
I don't think this story is such a big deal.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2012, 09:02 AM
Yes, as I said in my post, this is a very small mistake, almost negligible.
Were it not for the media, most would probably never have know what happened. But my point is, a few more shenanigans like this, bigger ones even, and it will only subtract from the dressing room atmosphere, not add something positive to it.
Posted by: dst Sep 11 2012, 09:08 AM
Well obviously, I meant if it's true that he said that, how would it help him?
Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2012, 09:15 AM
Now that you put it this way, yeah that's a point.
My only wild guess is that maybe Traore is of legal driving age and has a license. Maybe Niang wanted to pull a fast one on the traffic wardens. But at this point in time, after his clarification on Twitter, it probably isn't true.I reckon the guy said that this is Traore's car, and it was lost in translation to the traffic police.
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 11 2012, 09:39 AM
Oh, come on!
Anyway, it looks like his case might be followed in the juvenile court.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 11 2012, 10:00 AM
Doesn't it?! I mean instead of behaving like model professionals (or at least trying to behave like one), players when tangle themselves in these needless incidents, it just adds extra laundry to the team. Even if it is just less than 1%. I mean, he didn't, but what if he put his name in as Traoré?!
That's probably the reason why the Milan management came down on the kid. Granted he doesn't seem to be much of a trouble maker (like a certain someone named Cassano), but a negligence is a negligence.
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 10 2012, 12:19 AM
Niang has been banned from national football for one year after going AWOL from his training camp at the under-21 level:
http://www.football-italia.net/27061/france-ban-milans-niang.
So much hype and only disappointment to match it.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 10 2012, 12:39 AM
Really a shame.
Posted by: Danny Nov 10 2012, 11:50 AM
The boy is pure trouble. These bad 'uns do sprout now and then.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 10 2012, 01:21 PM
I never trusted French players at Milan
What a waste
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 10 2012, 03:08 PM
What a waste
Some of them where great though. Papin and Desailly for example.
But funny you of all people mentioning that, since kept faith in Flamini till the bitter end
Posted by: han2503 Nov 10 2012, 09:27 PM
But funny you of all people mentioning that, since kept faith in Flamini till the bitter end
Meh, there's always a black sheep that you have to support. There was Gila and Flamini for me in recent history
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 10 2012, 09:59 PM
I know, everyone has them. You do know mine very well
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 11 2012, 12:00 AM
Favalli! 
You legend!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 11 2012, 12:40 AM
Jose Chamot!
Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 11 2012, 12:50 AM
I liked him, he was also good in those early FM versions (it was called CM back then).
Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2012, 03:02 AM
You legend!!!Oh god, I had completely forgotten about him. Remember those days with the Maldini-Favalli CB pairing? Nightmares.
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 11 2012, 06:24 AM
I liked him too. But my game back then was winning eleven.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 11 2012, 09:17 AM
Wasn't so bad in real life as well.
(All Milan players were pretty good on CM, even Sala or N'Gotty if I'm not wrong).
But nowadays, when you see a Acerbi-Bonera, Bonera-Yepes, hell even sometimes a Bonera-Mexes pairing, you wonder...
Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2012, 01:43 PM
Nah man, all our CBs right now, even frigging Acerbi, are better than Favalli. And Maldini in his last two years was far from top.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 11 2012, 01:58 PM
Then we disagree completely.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 12 2012, 11:00 AM
Yup. Favalli is the greatest 4th choice CB in the history of Milan. Period.
Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2012, 11:12 PM
I just love disagreeing with you.
Posted by: Zed.D Nov 13 2012, 12:00 AM
Come on, he was better than that
Posted by: Zed.D Dec 15 2012, 02:02 PM
By Football Italia staff
Milan’s new 17-year-old starlet M’Baye Niang dedicated his debut goal to the fans and revealed his hero is Inter legend Ronaldo.
The French teenager has so far been better known for his off the field antics than performances on it. He was fined for driving without a licence and banned from international duty with France after skipping out on an Under-21 training camp to go partying in Paris.
“I must first of all thank the fans and I dedicate the goal to them,” he told La Gazzetta dello Sport after scoring in a 3-0 Coppa Italia victory over Reggina.
“The supporters encouraged me even before I stepped on to the field. As for my teammates, I was really struck by the mass hug I received. They were happy for me and you could tell.
“Last Saturday President Silvio Berlusconi took me to one side and encouraged me, saying the club really believed in me. It really made an impact.
“Milan have always shown great faith in my potential. I was honoured when Adriano Galliani came to pick me up in France with a private plane. I will repay them with action. I’ve been working to learn as much as possible, though the last four months have felt more like 18.”
Niang turns 18 next Wednesday and has a special request. “I’d love to score a goal against Pescara, assuming I play. In truth I’ll celebrate by going back to Paris for Christmas. My father visits often, but I want to be around my family again.”
Perhaps due to his early development and chaotic off the field lifestyle, Niang has been compared to Mario Balotelli.
“It is pleasing to be compared to Balotelli, as he is a great striker, but we’ve never met. My idol is Ronaldo, as I fell in love with football during the years he was at Inter. He is the ideal forward in terms of technique, power and speed.”
At the beginning of the 2012–2013 season, Niang was stopped by the police in Milan for driving without a license. It was reported that Niang tried to impersonate himself and told the police that he was Bakaye Traoré.
I'd totally forgotten about that. very Balotelli-like shenanigan. imagine having both of them together!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Dec 15 2012, 03:40 PM
Well anyway, in good news, he has now decided to apply for a driving license.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Dec 16 2012, 11:29 PM
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 16 2012, 11:30 PM
He could polish my shoes nicely with those hair.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 16 2012, 11:32 PM
Milan haircuts getting more and more ridiculous.
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 16 2012, 11:36 PM
It's become a trend everywhere. Neymar and Balotelli, for example. But yeah, we've got quite a bunch of them weird hairstyles.
Posted by: acid911 Dec 17 2012, 02:23 AM
End of grace.
I knew this would happen when all our classy players sailed into the west.
Posted by: Danny Dec 18 2012, 02:11 PM
For a nutbag and immature kid with appalling attitude, he is a very good player!
He's impressed me on his cameos, he really has.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 18 2012, 02:25 PM
But I think we're a bit harsh on him. I mean, sure he did a extra stupid thing with that Traore stunt. But what else did he do to be called a nut-bag? Just because he has 1 incident and looks like Balo doesn't necessarily mean he's just like him.
Posted by: Danny Dec 18 2012, 03:07 PM
He got caught driving without a license too. There was something else as well.
Posted by: Zed.D Dec 18 2012, 03:10 PM
There was another thing for which he was suspended from the France NT for a while...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 18 2012, 04:22 PM
Yeah, that's the same incident.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Dec 18 2012, 04:37 PM
There were just 2 incidents, the car incident without a license and the issue Zed.D mentioned when he got banned from the NT for breaking curfew and partying a night with a couple other members of the team.
Posted by: Bluesummers Dec 19 2012, 11:55 AM
Happy birthday Niang, he has turned 18 today 
Posted by: Jack Bauer Dec 20 2012, 02:43 AM
A.C. Milan have announced that Mbaye Niang has extended his contract at the club until June 30th, 2017.
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 20 2012, 02:51 AM
Niang's middle-name is Babacar, which in Albanian literally means Fatherdick.
Posted by: KillerMax Dec 20 2012, 03:01 AM
Well, that is where he came from...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 20 2012, 12:47 PM
While in Croatian the translation would be far more perverse.
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 20 2012, 02:55 PM
I'd like to know that.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 20 2012, 03:04 PM
It's disgusting, trust me.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 13 2013, 10:45 PM
http://www.football-italia.net/30726/niang-i-had-change-milan
Posted by: William405 Feb 14 2013, 02:23 PM
Nice to hear that .
Posted by: X-Offender Feb 20 2013, 12:49 AM
According to some sources, Niang won't play tomorrow because of a muscular problem, to which he replied on his Twitter account: "A few newspapers wrote that I won't play because of some injury, but it's not true. I won't play because Allegri decided so for technical reasons".
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/championsleague/articoli/99108/barcellona-giallo-niang-nel-milan.shtml
What do you make of this? I find it very presumptuous. No need to specify to the public the reasons you're not playing.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 20 2013, 01:06 AM
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/championsleague/articoli/99108/barcellona-giallo-niang-nel-milan.shtml
What do you make of this? I find it very presumptuous. No need to specify to the public the reasons you're not playing.
I see nothing much wrong with a player reaching out to their fans and the general public to clear the air on a matter.
Nothing disrespectful was said, nor was it going against that Allegri mentioned in his pre-game press conference.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 20 2013, 06:03 AM
Boy, this Allegri chap is quite an evaluater, if I say so myself. 
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 20 2013, 06:11 AM
He seems a bit of a trouble maker.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 20 2013, 07:02 AM
He is.
You can make this much out from his eyes, they show mischief. Unlike some other humble souls who keep it to themselves, Niang seems like he has a bit of a bad boy side to him.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2013, 09:11 AM
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/championsleague/articoli/99108/barcellona-giallo-niang-nel-milan.shtml
What do you make of this? I find it very presumptuous. No need to specify to the public the reasons you're not playing.
For me, his attitude already rubs me the wrong way.
The decisions made by the coach and his technical staff with the players should be kept behind closed doors, announcing every farth that goes on on that training pitch through twitter for me is distasteful and screams of lack of respect.
Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 20 2013, 09:29 AM
The decisions made by the coach and his technical staff with the players should be kept behind closed doors, announcing every farth that goes on on that training pitch through twitter for me is distasteful and screams of lack of respect.
I really don't think it was a big deal. He saw rumors saying he was injured and dispelled them. Anytime a player isn't picked to start and it isn't the result of injury it's a "technical" choice by the manager.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2013, 09:34 AM
But now Allegri is saying that he'll "assess" Niang's condition etc. This is directly going against what your coach is saying.
I'm sorry, but no matter how much I dislike Allegri, this is just not right. Especially from a young player who has so far shown nothing special that indicates he'll be even good enough to stay at this club long term, let alone be important for us in the future. Already with the ego, going to the media and defying the man who is ultimately giving him a chance, no matter how unmerited those chances were
Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 20 2013, 09:41 AM
I'm sorry, but no matter how much I dislike Allegri, this is just not right. Especially from a young player who has so far shown nothing special that indicates he'll be even good enough to stay at this club long term, let alone be important for us in the future. Already with the ego, going to the media and defying the man who is ultimately giving him a chance, no matter how unmerited those chances were
Allegri said that in reference to tiredness due to how many games he's played recently. That's completely different than assessment of an injury. Unless there is a blanket "no talking to the media" policy then this isn't defying anyone and he didn't go to the media, it was a tweet. I really think it's a non issue but I understand some people want all players to never open their mouths and always have a pristine image.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2013, 10:31 AM
Whether it's injury or tiredness, no player, least of all a kid barely out of his daipers, should be talking publicly about technical decisions. Allegri saying he'll assess his condition and Niang saying that he won't play because Allegri made a tactical choice for me is disrespectful, especially because Allegri saying he'll assess his condition is mostly a statement that for me means that he's simply protecting Niang instead of outright saying that he won't play Niang because he's not ready or good enough for such a huge game
Posted by: dst Feb 20 2013, 12:01 PM
Niang should not play cause he's awful anyway.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 20 2013, 12:30 PM
Yup, agreed, but I still don't think too much of his tweet incident to be honest.
The decisions made by the coach and his technical staff with the players should be kept behind closed doors, announcing every farth that goes on on that training pitch through twitter for me is distasteful and screams of lack of respect.
Agreed on his attitude (as can be seen during games).
I agree 100% with what you're saying han, except in this case, I really don't give him wrong, as it was no great secret revealed (tactically or whatever), and its not to say that Allegri said one thing and he was saying another (so as to oppose him). Allegri basically said the same thing in his press conference in a more reserved manner.
I see nothing wrong with any player clarifying a situation if the media state something false.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 20 2013, 12:58 PM
And that's the bottom line
Posted by: acid911 Feb 20 2013, 01:10 PM
Because this guy said so.
And well, you too.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2013, 02:03 PM
Very insightful comment
Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2013, 02:07 PM
Agreed on his attitude (as can be seen during games).
I agree 100% with what you're saying han, except in this case, I really don't give him wrong, as it was no great secret revealed (tactically or whatever), and its not to say that Allegri said one thing and he was saying another (so as to oppose him). Allegri basically said the same thing in his press conference in a more reserved manner.
I see nothing wrong with any player clarifying a situation if the media state something false.
Okay so you have a point in this case because it is just twitter.
But it's all about attitude and basic show of respect from such a young player who is still yet to prove or even show anything decent so far.
If Allegri was going to bench SES or DS for example do you think either would even think of mentioning anything to the media or even on their personal twitter account? No, because they respect decisions no matter what and both know how things are done. Niang on the other hand clearly has attitude problems and I saw this as another clear indication of this. Can you imagine how he'll be in a few months time if he's already mouthing off publicly because he's gotten a handful of starts? It's already clear that they've gotten to his head, just like wanting to take that freekick instead of Balo on the weekend
Posted by: X-Offender Feb 20 2013, 03:05 PM
Niang thinks too highly of himself. All the attention has gotten to his head. First wanting to take a free kick and then getting angry with Balotelli for not letting him take it, now this. The kid should know his place. It's not like he's this amazing player and thus his actions can be justified on the pitch, like Balo or Ibra. The kid has been crap so far, except for a first half against Udinese, which I didn't find that impressive anyway. Stating publicly that he's not playing because Allegri decided so and not because he's injured is like blaming the coach that he's not playing him in such an important game, plain and simple.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2013, 03:12 PM
Exactly
Posted by: Danny Feb 20 2013, 04:55 PM
Players and coaches are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
5 or 10 years ago it was 'we're not being told the truth' - now it's 'we're being told the truth and we would prefer not to be'.
No matter who is in the right or wrong it seems a bit bizarre that we used to complain about lack of information, and now we complain we're being given said information.
And I'm taking neither Allegri, nor Niang's, or even the Milanello postie's side on this one.
Just find it a all a bit ironic.
(also curious no one is discussing the story posted earlier where he says he needs to change and become more disciplined and strict - it's like we choose to discuss the potentially controversial stuff)
Posted by: Danny Feb 20 2013, 04:56 PM
.Apart from Bill here who says it's nice to hear. Everyone else ignored it in favour of whining about a tweet and 'too much information'.
Gotta laff!
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 20 2013, 05:08 PM
Ditto.
Posted by: drucurl Feb 20 2013, 07:57 PM
Agreed....BUT.....He has the aggressive mentality that I want in my forwards. He wants the world and TBH it's nice to see an ambitious little pr!ck strive for more. If he works as hard as he talks, he'll have it all in no time
FWIW he also acknowledges that there are others like Robinho that are superior to him
Posted by: William405 Apr 17 2013, 01:10 PM
The 18-year-old had a quiet start to life at San Siro, but he has been rewarded for his efforts in recent weeks with more first team opportunities.
“At Caen people told me that I was too good, that I was a phenomenon,” the striker told France Football.
“After a while, you inadvertently relax and don’t work as hard. You can’t do that here at Milan.
“There are stronger players than me in attack and if you don’t train hard then you don’t play, you just become the sixth attacker.”
Niang added that he believes certain life style changes have also aided his development at Milanello this term.
“I now know that you can’t behave in a certain way at this club,” he added. “Philippe Mexes has talked to me a lot.
“He’s told me to accept punishments and come back stronger, to be perfect in my private life.
“I train hard and, when I go home, I live life as an athlete. It’s no coincidence that today I am playing regularly.
“Something changed in my life, something clicked. When I was 16, I paid no notice to people who said that I should not eat this or drink that.
“I’ll work hard to become the player I want to develop into.”
Niang has one goal in 20 appearances across Serie A, the Champions League and the Coppa Italia for the Diavolo.
Posted by: William405 Apr 17 2013, 01:13 PM
Gotta laff!
Posted by: drucurl Apr 17 2013, 02:56 PM
Interesting that Niang should talk about "being an athlete".....I think Allegri focuses more on the "athlete" and less on "the footballer". His team selections, tactics and decisions seem to indicate this as well
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 17 2013, 04:41 PM
What efforts?
he doesn't even look like the most hard working player in our attack.
Posted by: drucurl Apr 17 2013, 09:28 PM
he doesn't even look like the most hard working player in our attack.Not true at all....very hard worker. Tracks back all the time. Wants to take every free-kick every shot etc. He is youthful and over exuberant but I wouldn't say he has a bad attitude. Not 100% sure about his talent though
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 17 2013, 11:04 PM
Yeah, he's the first functional defensive attacker in the world. A pure Allegrism.
Posted by: William405 Apr 18 2013, 07:51 AM
Well, Cavani's done it before him and he's actually better at it
Posted by: han2503 Apr 18 2013, 09:17 AM
Niang is a sorry excuse for a player, and even worse he has an ego that makes him believe that he's something amazing.
To call him a talent is an insult to the real talented young players out there.
I seriously hope the empty hype sarrounding him means that some big club is fooled into making a good big and we jump on it
Posted by: William405 Apr 18 2013, 11:05 AM
But, maybe as a CF..he's work better?The problem is his finishing is absolutely terrible..he only has physicality playing for him.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 18 2013, 03:34 PM
You can't be a CF if you have terrible finishing ability and very poor hold-up ability on top of that. The game against Barca was the biggest eye opener in this case. He couldn't even hold up the ball against the likes of Pique and Mascherano, you really think he'd be able to do that against Serie A CBs?
Posted by: William405 Apr 18 2013, 03:55 PM
Nah, but I'd prefer he'd develop in that role. Yes, I agree..if he had an eye for goal..we would have seen it already which is quite disappointing.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 18 2013, 03:58 PM
Personally I think it's pointless to put in any time on him. He's hot right now because of some hype that's come up around him for some reason. If we get an opportunity to sell him this summer for some decent cash then we have to jump on the chance.
If not then he won't be worth anything in a year or so when said hype dies down. So if Chelsea or City have money to throw away then let them.
Posted by: William405 Apr 18 2013, 04:07 PM
If not then he won't be worth anything in a year or so when said hype dies down. So if Chelsea or City have money to throw away then let them.
Yeah, now that mino raiola is his agent too. I wouldn't mind selling him..hell it could help with getting Pato back.
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 18 2013, 04:27 PM
Niang's hype came to be after we signed Balotelli. Suddenly everyone started talking about this young attack of the "creste" (their hairstyles) and how they represented the future of Milan.
Posted by: drucurl Apr 18 2013, 04:59 PM
You guys are incredibly harsh on an 18 year old sheesh
That said, i fear that Allegri only appreciates the more physical players. I too have my question marks over Niang's actual potential / ability. Compared to someone like Bojan, Niang is nothing special atm.... and that's bad because Bojan isn't special himself
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 18 2013, 05:03 PM
Nah, we're just being rational. Sometimes things can be too obvious and you can easily make an assessment. This isn't like with De Sciglio, who in the first half of the season was rather poor, yet you could see that he would gradually improve with time. Niang so far has shown absolutely nothing other than pure mediocrity.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 18 2013, 05:06 PM
De Sciglio was poor? Really? Oh well, this is the Nocerino is great forum, what am I thinking?
Posted by: han2503 Apr 18 2013, 05:27 PM
You basically admitted yourself that you haven't watched Milan much this season so I wonder how you can come up with so many conclusions based on very little material...
DS was poor in the first half of the season, yes. He was being played at RB, where imo he's not half as effective as he is on the left. Add to that, the other option at RB is Abate, so you can't really fault most people for wanting Abate to get the starts.
Now we've seen real flashes of brilliance from DS on the left, but that does not negate the fact that he was poor at the start of the season when he was playing on the right side, especially when we're used to Abate owning that side 99% of the time in matches
And please don't make your Nocerino hate any more obvious then it already was. No one said he's a great player. I personally said he was a good player, and some bad form this season does not erase that. He's still a good player, and still far better than the lazy, mediocre Muntari.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 18 2013, 06:26 PM
One of my golden rules when it comes to young "talents" is that defenders must know how to defend, attackers how to score. That's the basic knowledge/dosis of talent one needs to have to be ready for a career ride. Few players who defy this principle make it: Abate is one of them, a terrible defender, but a hard worker who - like Gattuso or Davids (to an extent) - managed to overcome this deficit with sheer determination.
With De Sciglio it was obvious from day one. He's a solid defender and he understands what needs to be done in that section (something I for instance never saw in Darmian).
On the other hand, Niang is a poor finisher and he's simply not cut to be a Milan striker. You guys tried to convince me here that finishing skills can be improved and "trained" when we discussed Robinho...and we all know how that one failed. Simply put: Niang is not Milan-class.
Posted by: William405 Apr 18 2013, 06:41 PM
Well said.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 18 2013, 06:42 PM
I watched Milan early in the season and De Sciglio was great, game after game. To call him poor the FIRST half of the season doesn't swing with me.
If he said he was poor last few months or second half of the season, I would have not said a thing.
And actually, I remembered negative comments on De Sciglio here post matches I thought he was very good, so once again there is disagreement between me and someone(s) on this forum.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 18 2013, 06:48 PM
One says he is good on the right and poor on the left, and the other vice versa like you. I have not seen enough of him on the left to have an opinion on that, but I think there should not really be a debate between the two. Just play De Sciglio on the left, and Abate on the right, while I can't believe for a second either is not superior to Constant. I wish I have seen more from Constant, but he was a complete amateur against Barça, like he never have been taught the basics of the game. Abate was decent that game.
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 18 2013, 07:32 PM
De Sciglio was poor in the first half of the season, before Constant got injured and Allegri started playing him on the left. I remember those games perfectly, his amateur performance like against Malaga, Anderlecht and so on. Yet I always maintained that the kid had talented, but I never thought he'd improve so quickly. Now I'd choose him over Constant any day of the week.
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 18 2013, 09:27 PM
If he said he was poor last few months or second half of the season, I would have not said a thing.
And actually, I remembered negative comments on De Sciglio here post matches I thought he was very good, so once again there is disagreement between me and someone(s) on this forum.
He was solid in the first half of the season. it was just a few inevitable poor games here and there (one against Malaga IINM) that made han and co. go all "see? we were right! DS is not ready! let's not throw him to the wolves!" etc etc.
This is not denying that he's been even better in the left side though. but his talent was not the question. the question was whether or not he was ready to play consistently. to me he looked ready when he came on in the derby last season and played a brilliant game (all things considered) with such coolness
Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 18 2013, 10:31 PM
This is not denying that he's been even better in the left side though. but his talent was not the question. the question was whether or not he was ready to play consistently. to me he looked ready when he came on in the derby last season and played a brilliant game (all things considered) with such coolness
Right, I remember you were the only one on my, our, De Sciglio's side.
Rotation is good at times, but play the better ones in the more serious games. No Stephan against Napoli? And no De Sciglio against Barça... nah, don't like it
Posted by: Zed.D Apr 26 2013, 06:07 PM
By Football Italia staff
Milan striker M'Baye Niang has claimed that he wants to become better than Lionel Messi.
The French forward has insisted that his aim for the future is to win the Ballon d'Or, and believes that that is possible whilst at the Rossoneri.
“Milan are a great team that have won everything,” he told Sky Sport Italia. “For a young player, it is an honour to be part of this club.
“Now I just want to repay the trust people have shown in me.
“I want to work to become the best in the world. I always think about the Ballon d'Or.
“It's my goal to win that. I want to become stronger than Messi.
“I work very hard, and I know that one day I will reach my goal.”
What in the name of God!! this is seriously not even funny.
Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 26 2013, 06:43 PM
He is already too late for that. Is too many steps behind for his age already, to be(come) like Messi.
Posted by: acid911 Apr 26 2013, 06:45 PM
I wish I could unread these comments from the idiot. 
I think I killed a few million brain cells!
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 26 2013, 06:56 PM
He has been given multiple chances in 3 different competitions and only was half-decent in Coppa Italia. This is not a talent. A talent would show definite signs. And for him to say things like this... He is making himself a target for a lot of abuse.
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 26 2013, 07:02 PM
By Football Italia staff
Milan striker M'Baye Niang has claimed that he wants to become better than Lionel Messi.
The French forward has insisted that his aim for the future is to win the Ballon d'Or, and believes that that is possible whilst at the Rossoneri.
“Milan are a great team that have won everything,” he told Sky Sport Italia. “For a young player, it is an honour to be part of this club.
“Now I just want to repay the trust people have shown in me.
“I want to work to become the best in the world. I always think about the Ballon d'Or.
“It's my goal to win that. I want to become stronger than Messi.
“I work very hard, and I know that one day I will reach my goal.”
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 26 2013, 07:30 PM
Indeed.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 26 2013, 08:57 PM
Forget the age thing (although that is also very important) The fact that he has zero talent is what makes this an impossibility
That made me laugh more then the initial stupid statments from our "star"
Posted by: X-Offender Apr 26 2013, 10:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ucSWjNmGcmM
Posted by: arivanjj Apr 27 2013, 12:45 AM
Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 4 2013, 07:00 PM
According to Sky, Niang refused a move to Genoa in exchange for Juraj Kucka. If that's the case, I wouldn't play him at all till January.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 4 2013, 07:23 PM
I wouldn't play him at all.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 4 2013, 07:27 PM
I meant that in January he will be more accepting to moving out after not playing for a few month.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 4 2013, 07:27 PM
Besides, I think this is one reason why his name was accidentally (yet maliciously) left out of the CL. No one's this stupid, and what happened to double checking. He shouldn't have been signed up in the first place that's for sure, the guy is a born trouble maker.
It wouldn't be that much of a concern if he played nearly as good as he misbehaves. The guy can't even crawl, let alone walk, the talk. And this seems apt treatment for now, until he shows signs of improvement.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 4 2013, 07:30 PM
I know, but I wouldn't count on it.
I mean, with our recent signings, anyone in their right mind knows that a player like him will not get too many chances to impress. Too little play time, with Balotelli, Pazzini, Matri, Robinho and Kaka taking the attacking duties.And considering just how tough Serie A is this season, and European qualification being at stake for next year, I'd be surprised if he gets any sustained play time at all.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 4 2013, 07:30 PM
And people thought it was an "honest" mistake that lead to him being left out of the CL group.
And yes, we shouldn't even give him a look in and force him out come January. Only for 50% so if he does well we can sell the rest of him off for a decent price.
I really cannot stand his attitude, and the fact that he thinks himself to be a Balo in training is even more disgusting to me.
Posted by: drucurl Sep 5 2013, 10:57 AM
I see things differently
He is just an 18 year old kid. One great part of his game is his hunger. He WANTS it all
Sometimes he ends up looking foolish for it but I'd take his drive and work ethic over someone that already thought themselves to be Messi. What Milan has done is to inflict damage on the boy's spirit.
You think an 18 year old would make this many apps with no talent? Of course I will say however that Allegri has no idea of talent and how to manage it
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 5 2013, 11:33 AM
Did you forget Niang's comment that he wants to get better than Messi?
Posted by: drucurl Sep 5 2013, 01:42 PM
Shouldn't he want to get better than Messi? I think it's a GREAT ambition.....even if he falls short a player who is 60% Messi is a great player
Posted by: X-Offender Sep 5 2013, 03:53 PM
I think it's bullshit.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 5 2013, 04:27 PM
Niang won't be a 0.9% of what Messi is, he's just not that good. He's been hyped up like hell for no reason what-so-ever and I say if we can get Kucka in exchange for him or some decent cash we should go for it in January
The worst thing about him is the fact that he thinks he's better than he actually is, which makes him a million times more irritating than if he was just a run of the mill average youngster
Posted by: drucurl Sep 6 2013, 12:45 PM
The worst thing about him is the fact that he thinks he's better than he actually is, which makes him a million times more irritating than if he was just a run of the mill average youngster
When you're a parent, you'll understand
Posted by: han2503 Sep 6 2013, 01:22 PM
??
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm just saying that if he was just a run of the mill youngster who worked hard but is a bit average I'd be ok with him, but his ego is irritating beyond hell. He's just not good enough for Milan, especially not at this moment. A move to Genoa where he'd have gotten regular playing time would have been good for him. The kid just thinks he's better than he actually is
Posted by: drucurl Sep 6 2013, 02:22 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 10 2013, 01:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrQvVV0ZNEU
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 20 2013, 10:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW5zVABHjsE
Posted by: han2503 Dec 20 2013, 11:10 PM
He's clearly a better dancer than he is a football player
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 20 2013, 11:30 PM
That post against Barça is the perfect abstract of his career at Milan.
Posted by: X-Offender Dec 24 2013, 02:29 PM
Niang: "Nobody takes into account the hard work we all put just for Balotelli. Everyone that watches our games can clearly see that the team plays for him, and that's why his stats are greater compared to the other strikers'"
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/23-12-2013/montpellier-niang-si-presenta-al-milan-si-gioca-solo-balotelli-prestito-diritto-di-riscatto-201902154677.shtml
Wow, can this guy get any worse? Trash, utter trash.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 24 2013, 04:30 PM
Good God.
Posted by: acid911 Dec 24 2013, 04:35 PM
You can say that again.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Dec 24 2013, 07:31 PM
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomercato/23-12-2013/montpellier-niang-si-presenta-al-milan-si-gioca-solo-balotelli-prestito-diritto-di-riscatto-201902154677.shtml
Wow, can this guy get any worse? Trash, utter trash.
I saw this the other day, I didn't even bother posting it because the guy literally isn't worth the time.
He needs to put up (and considering it doesn't seem he is capable of doing so at this time, then his second option should be to) or SHUT UP!
He could very well be shipped out as well. A striker that is incapable of striking is ridiculous, regardless of the limited playing time he gets now.
He has had chances (on a silver platter a times, some of those) and he has squandered ALL!
GTFO!!!
Come back when you're serious! Foolish youth with a great sense of entitlement and offers little to nothing!
Absolutely Ridiculous!!!!!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Dec 24 2013, 07:43 PM
He needs to put up (and considering it doesn't seem he is capable of doing so at this time, then his second option should be to) or SHUT UP!
He could very well be shipped out as well. A striker that is incapable of striking is ridiculous, regardless of the limited playing time he gets now.
He has had chances (on a silver platter a times, some of those) and he has squandered ALL!
GTFO!!!
Come back when you're serious! Foolish youth with a great sense of entitlement and offers little to nothing!
Absolutely Ridiculous!!!!!!!
I love how this post keeps building up and escalating! lol
Needless to say, I agree completely.
Posted by: han2503 Dec 24 2013, 09:17 PM
What a complete tool!!!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 10 2014, 10:33 PM
Scored an equaliser against Monaco on his debut.
Posted by: X-Offender Jan 10 2014, 10:36 PM
So, he was finally able to put to use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucSWjNmGcmM.
Posted by: han2503 Jan 10 2014, 11:05 PM
What a total tool
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 10 2014, 11:48 PM
He can do well in France, at a team that has no pressures ... He is just 19 I believe or 20? One of those cases of patience from the home crowd and he might be able to focus more without pressure. Not expecting fireworks just yet by saying that
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Jan 11 2014, 12:12 AM
it was a missed pen that he got on the second try lol. but he did score a goal last week in the cup game
Posted by: X-Offender Jan 11 2014, 12:16 AM
LOOOOOL
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 11 2014, 12:27 AM
I only saw it on livescore, had no idea.
Posted by: X-Offender Jan 11 2014, 12:54 AM
At least he got it on the second try.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 6 2014, 07:43 PM
http://football-italia.net/44899/milan-owned-niang-arrested
Posted by: han2503 Feb 6 2014, 08:16 PM
How a kid like this could own a Ferrari is already a crime in and of itself
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 6 2014, 08:31 PM
it's a shame because if we do miss out on the CL, we would have to slash are wages and players like him stepping up (as he's seemingly done with Montpellier). I still think we should keep him but a public denounciation of his stupidity is in order
Posted by: han2503 Feb 6 2014, 09:02 PM
Doing well with an average French team in League 1 is one thing, doing well at Milan is another, and it's pretty obvious that he doesn't have it, all he does have is ego.
The guy thinks he god's gift to football when in reality he's just plain old average.
Best thing for us to do would be to cut our losses next summer and sell him to whoever is will to pay actual money for him
Posted by: acid911 Feb 6 2014, 09:54 PM
So true.
He can do all he want with a nothing club in a nothing league.Barely even that.
You mean whoever is stupid enough to.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 6 2014, 11:49 PM
I don't care if he turns out to be the French Julius Cesar, I want him out ASP. Pathetic guy.
Posted by: X-Offender Feb 7 2014, 01:02 AM
That description made me laugh.
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 7 2014, 01:34 AM
OFF WITH HIS HEAD! HOW DARE HE BE A TROUBLED TEENAGER!!!
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 7 2014, 04:16 AM
The guy thinks he God'st to football when in reality he's just plain old average.
Best thing for us to do would be to cut our losses next summer and sell him to whoever is will to pay actual money for him
This is vapid, I mean would you prefer if he hadn't scored 3 in 4!? Should we only be signing from bigger clubs!? Must we focus on players with perfect attitudes (because getting a wholesale discount on Zlatan balo cassano proved to not yield a return!?. what is the point of us talki g about youth if we have the memory span of goldfishies!? To sell him without a big offer would be ludicrous. You can loan him out for a bit and make money of him like aubameyang but as I said, publicly denounce this last foolishness, teams will enquire, if we like the number, we can take it, if not wait and see...
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2014, 03:28 PM
Posted by: X-Offender Feb 7 2014, 03:48 PM
A total prick, on top of being a troubled teenager.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2014, 03:55 PM
The fact is he scored 1 in 2 for us. TWO YEARS that is.
Listen I'm all for dealing with "troubled" players because we can no longer buy players who are actually still wanted by their own teams and others as well. But I'll only deal with them if they have the actual talent to back that up. And Niang clearly doesn't
Posted by: han2503 Aug 8 2016, 06:24 PM
Bumped
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 8 2016, 06:31 PM
One of the players I'm willing to give one last chance and then sell.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 8 2016, 06:35 PM
Yep. He definately improved last season. Still has to work a lot on his finishing and his attitude though
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 8 2016, 10:17 PM
Likewise.
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