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post May 3 2018, 08:00 AM
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Roma got robbed...
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post May 3 2018, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 2 2018, 10:23 PM) *
Hmm, I'm not counting Roma out yet. And btw, I'm supremely jealous that you're going to be there at the Olimpico. I'm sure it will be an amazing night. Hopefully Roma can pull off another miracle

Sure, Zidane will be remembered for achieving a historic feat but he would tank at any other club because I don't think he's really that good a coach, his league form illustrates this perfectly


What a game! I was a neutral, as my friends were cheering on Liverpool, while I slightly wanted the Italians through but enjoyed watching Momo salah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) . In the end it was a beautiful game, the ref made questionable calls. However the atmosphere was amazing, so amazing I missed Milan. Not this Milan, but the one between 2002 and 2007. A feeling like your sick in your stomatch. Especially when the CL music started.

Romans were gutted, they believe the correct final should have been Bayern v Roma. Oh well, what a night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

On Zidane, I believe he would be successful at any 'top' club he goes to. Only time will tell if he is any good at another club. However, based on the games I've watched him coach; he has shown tactical prowess and intelligence. I believe he will be successful at any 'top' club.
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post Aug 30 2018, 09:30 PM
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Inter and Napoli got some hellish groups. Juve got a tough one, too. But many interesting match-ups in the group stage. I like it.

By the way, any thoughts on Ronaldo not winning the best player award? I find it ridiculous. Modric was great, and had a phenomenal WC. But in the CL it was Ronaldo who won it for them.
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post Aug 31 2018, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2018, 09:30 PM) *
Inter and Napoli got some hellish groups. Juve got a tough one, too. But many interesting match-ups in the group stage. I like it.

By the way, any thoughts on Ronaldo not winning the best player award? I find it ridiculous. Modric was great, and had a phenomenal WC. But in the CL it was Ronaldo who won it for them.

Modric might not have been as in your face important as Ronaldo, but he was just as crucial for Real. Plus, it's getting old to always see Ronaldo or Messi winning it. Modric is a refreshing choice imo, and I hope it's the same thing with the Ballon D'or, he deserves it
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post Aug 31 2018, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 31 2018, 10:14 PM) *
Modric might not have been as in your face important as Ronaldo, but he was just as crucial for Real. Plus, it's getting old to always see Ronaldo or Messi winning it. Modric is a refreshing choice imo, and I hope it's the same thing with the Ballon D'or, he deserves it


I completely disagree.

Ronaldo
Games - 12
Goals - 15
Assists - 3
Player of the week - 4

Modric
Games - 11
Goals - 1
Assists - 1
Player of the week - 0

Come on, it's plain obvious. Without Ronaldo, Madrid would have never won the CL.
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post Sep 1 2018, 12:13 AM
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A debate old as time, or football at least. I have to say that I agree with Han. Look everyone knows that Ronaldo has killer stats. But like Han said, the Ronaldo-Messi thing really became boring as hell, especially with CR7 dominating in every possible way. I mean it’s giving the award to someone who’s actually playing amazing on a different style and level/way then the mentioned two. Think of Pirlo and Kaka. Milan never would have won the CL without Kaka and his goals/assists. But wasn’t Pirlo as important neverthenless?
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post Sep 1 2018, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 1 2018, 12:13 AM) *
A debate old as time, or football at least. I have to say that I agree with Han. Look everyone knows that Ronaldo has killer stats. But like Han said, the Ronaldo-Messi thing really became boring as hell, especially with CR7 dominating in every possible way. I mean it’s giving the award to someone who’s actually playing amazing on a different style and level/way then the mentioned two. Think of Pirlo and Kaka. Milan never would have won the CL without Kaka and his goals/assists. But wasn’t Pirlo as important neverthenless?


Pirlo never was as important as Kaka', that goes without saying. It was Kaka' who stepped up during that season and won games single-handedly for us.

It's the same argument here. Just because Ronaldo and Messi have been winning it for the past 10 years doesn't mean that a fantastic CL run by Ronaldo should be overshadowed by Modric's great season, which mostly culminated in the WC rather than in the CL.

It's a theft, a disgrace, and a shameful thing to do, giving it to Modric.

PS: Don't get me wrong, I think Modric is a fantastic player, and probably the best midfielder in the world right now. But we have to look at things objectively. His season in the CL compared to Ronaldo's don't compare.
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post Sep 19 2019, 08:43 AM
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So, Atalanta start by losing 4-0 to Dinamo. Shows you how weak Serie A actually is.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 19 2019, 08:43 AM) *
So, Atalanta start by losing 4-0 to Dinamo. Shows you how weak Serie A actually is.


Well, Napoli did beat the champions of Europe, and Juve almost won vs Atletico last night in Madrid. So, I don't think that's a right assessment to make.

Rather, it's the given outcome of what happens when mid-table clubs like Atalanta pretend to be part of the big boys. They just can't handle it. We would have never lost 4-0, even at our current state.
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I still think it's both. Loosing 4-0 to Dinamo Zagreb is a shocking result for a 4th placed Serie A team, mid-table club or not. Ten years ago a mid-table club in Italy would most probably win 2-0 or 3-0 against Dinamo...
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post Oct 1 2019, 09:59 PM
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Tottenham 2-7 Bayern

Jeez...
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 19 2019, 11:43 AM) *
So, Atalanta start by losing 4-0 to Dinamo. Shows you how weak Serie A actually is.


Then how weak is Real Madrid
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post Oct 2 2019, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 2 2019, 01:20 PM) *
Then how weak is Real Madrid

Real Madrid did not lose 4-0. Atalanta on the other hand lost yet again. Hardly a good argument.
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post Oct 3 2019, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 2 2019, 07:49 PM) *
Real Madrid did not lose 4-0. Atalanta on the other hand lost yet again. Hardly a good argument.

What do you say re Spurs then?

Atalanta are just not cut out for this level. They're good in Serie A but the CL was always going to be a huge ask for them. And it will probably have a negative effect on their league performances this season as well.

This is not really an indication of a league's strength
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