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Jun 1 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 1 2014, 05:53 PM) What dst means, han, is that the injury could have come at anytime. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) In the first match of the World Cup, within the first 10 minutes, or in another such friendly or anything. Heck, if we are going by this logic of blaming the coach for playing the first choice players, I'd much rather blame the players first for getting injured. And trust me, I know injuries. Ronaldo was injured left and right, and this fact was always on my mind. I'd rather an injury happen in a proper game though than in a stupid friendly in which Italy usually p!ss away anyway. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 06:13 PM) Dude, you have a serious crush on Montolivo. The guy is average at best, nothing special. Italy have plenty of midfielders better than him. If Prandelli wants to play a diamond, then he should play a proper trequartista, not frigging Montolivo. Listen, there are countless other players in that Azzurri line-up that I think are a LOT better than Monto and I have am a bigger fan of. Namely Verratti, Pirlo, De Rossi, heck even Marchisio, who imo is an insanely intelligent midfielder that has zero aim. BUT. Montolivo, in a diamond midfield system is absolutely crucial for Italy, and no, Insigne is not a trequartista, never can play in that role, and certainly not in the way that Monto plays it. Candreva or Aquilani are the only ones who can do that job and both are utter cr@p Aquilani was seriously horrible yesterday before he had to come off. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 1 2014, 06:34 PM) Right. Problem is, Italy do not have a proper trequartista. This! QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 07:00 PM) Insigne can perfectly play as one. No he can't imo Insigne can either be used as a winger or a second striker coming from deep QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 07:02 PM) Prandelli's list:
Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain);
Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma);
Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma), Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain);
Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli).
No Rossi. Candreva, Cerci, Paletta, and Parolo are all useless to this team in a tournament like the WC, they are absolute MILES out of their depth Rossi should have been there imo, he is a player that can make a HUGE difference. He might not be 100% fit now, but he could have regained match fitness and been incredibly useful should Italy qualify from their group. On another not, Thiago Motta is an absolute disgrace of a player. All he did yesterday was give the ball away. He adss nothing to Italy's game. Just a completely 1 dimensional player. And seriously, Paletta over Rannochia??? FFS! Best Italy can do with that list is Abate--Barzagli--Chiellini--DS DDR--Pirlo--Marchisio Verratta Balo--Cassano/Insigne
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Jun 1 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 1 2014, 05:53 PM) What dst means, han, is that the injury could have come at anytime. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) In the first match of the World Cup, within the first 10 minutes, or in another such friendly or anything. Heck, if we are going by this logic of blaming the coach for playing the first choice players, I'd much rather blame the players first for getting injured. And trust me, I know injuries. Ronaldo was injured left and right, and this fact was always on my mind. I'd rather an injury happen in a proper game though than in a stupid friendly in which Italy usually p!ss away anyway. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 06:13 PM) Dude, you have a serious crush on Montolivo. The guy is average at best, nothing special. Italy have plenty of midfielders better than him. If Prandelli wants to play a diamond, then he should play a proper trequartista, not frigging Montolivo. Listen, there are countless other players in that Azzurri line-up that I think are a LOT better than Monto and I am a bigger fan of. Namely Verratti, Pirlo, De Rossi, heck even Marchisio, who imo is an insanely intelligent midfielder that has zero aim. BUT. Montolivo, in a diamond midfield system is absolutely crucial for Italy, and no, Insigne is not a trequartista, never can play in that role, and certainly not in the way that Monto plays it. Candreva or Aquilani are the only ones who can do that job and both are utter cr@p Aquilani was seriously horrible yesterday before he had to come off. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 1 2014, 06:34 PM) Right. Problem is, Italy do not have a proper trequartista. This! QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 07:00 PM) Insigne can perfectly play as one. No he can't imo Insigne can either be used as a winger or a second striker coming from deep QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 07:02 PM) Prandelli's list:
Buffon (Juventus), Perin (Genoa), Sirigu (Paris St. Germain);
Abate (Milan), Barzagli (Juventus), Bonucci (Juventus), Chiellini (Juventus), Darmian (Torino), De Sciglio (Milan), Paletta (Parma);
Aquilani (Fiorentina), Candreva (Lazio), De Rossi (Roma), Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris St. Germain), Parolo (Parma), Pirlo (Juventus), Verratti (Paris St. Germain);
Balotelli (Milan), Cassano (Parma), Cerci (Torino), Immobile (Torino), Insigne (Napoli).
No Rossi. Candreva, Cerci, Paletta, and Parolo are all useless to this team in a tournament like the WC, they are absolute MILES out of their depth Rossi should have been there imo, he is a player that can make a HUGE difference. He might not be 100% fit now, but he could have regained match fitness and been incredibly useful should Italy qualify from their group. On another note, Thiago Motta is an absolute disgrace of a player. All he did yesterday was give the ball away. He adds nothing to Italy's game. Just a completely 1 dimensional player. And seriously, Paletta over Rannochia??? FFS! Best Italy can do with that list is Abate--Barzagli--Chiellini--DS DDR--Pirlo--Marchisio Verratti Balo--Cassano/Insigne
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Jun 2 2014, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 1 2014, 10:48 PM) What? Just cos Insigne likes drifting out wide doesn't mean he can't play behind the strikers. I actually posted here some weeks ago how I'd like Italy to play, and you didn't seem to mind me putting Insigne as trequartista (you actually said it looks great), but now you're changing your opinion because you want to support your Montolivo argument? Nah, not fooling me bro. You posted a 4-2-3-1 right? In that system I don't really care where Insigne plays in the 3 behind the striker It's not a change of opinion but being more open to different things because it's a completely different set-up I've said that with the way Prandelli sets up his team when the diamond midfield is used, the trequartista is usually a CM or someone like Candreva who will put in a shift on both sides of the ball. Notice he's never played Insigne there when he played this formation at least not in any competitive match I've seen, and I watched all the qualifying games, usually Monto, Marchisio or Candreva or even Giaccherini play in that position. In a 4-2-3-1, the player behind the striker can either play as a trequartista or even as sort of a SS with most of the creativity coming from the wings. I wasn't trying to fool you, this is just how I feel about the issue. Simple as that
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Jun 2 2014, 12:50 PM
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I stand corrected.
Don't know, I just don't think Insigne will work there for Italy in that formation, I might not have been thinking about it in that way when you posted that.
I think Verratti would do a better job in there than Insigne, or even Marchisio
Whatever it is, I think when Prandelli does use the diamond, he'll play 4 CMs in there because that's always worked very well for Italy
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Jun 2 2014, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 2 2014, 06:59 PM) Immobile to Dortmund is official. Another talented player sold out of Italy. Just disappointing. He'll do well there
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Jun 6 2014, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 6 2014, 12:09 AM) If Inter can challenge for the scudetto then we can win the CL. Wow, that would be on a whole other level of amazing considering we're not even in it (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And agreed, Inter are p!ss poor, where are these great young players? The only one I'd take off of them is Kovacic
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