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Posted by: Tennie Feb 16 2009, 03:17 PM
So, Milan take on Werder Bremen in the UEFA Cup this Wednesday.
Bremen are traditionally one of the stronger sides in Germany but they're struggling this season and are currently in midtable (at the weekend they drew with bottom team Borussia Monchengladbach). Their defense is leakier than ours but they've got a pretty strong attack. Folks may have seen Claudio Pizarro or Diego before, but to me the guy to look out for is Mesut Ozil - he's an AM and he's really very good indeed. Just got his first call up to the German NT. Both Vranjes and Jensen are out with injury. A really big blow for them is that Torsten Frings is suspended for the game (yellow card accumulation from the CL).
English referee Mike Dean will be in charge of the match. I think he's one of the better English refs.
Here are Milan's call ups for the game.
Abbiati, Dida, Perucchini (50)
Antonini, Bonera, Darmian, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Senderos, Zambrotta
Ambrosini, Beckham, Flamini, Pirlo, Seedorf
Inzaghi, Pato, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho.
No Kaka. Shevchenko is carrying an injury, not sure why he's been called up.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 16 2009, 03:23 PM
I completely forgot about this match. Bremen are not to be underestimated
Posted by: dst Feb 16 2009, 03:29 PM
We have to get a good result in Germany. The UEFA Cup is the top priority now.
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 16 2009, 03:31 PM
Are we at home for the 1st leg?
This is the type of opponent we usually walk all over,i reckon we'll play a very good game to bounce back from the loss.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 16 2009, 04:06 PM
We're away for the first leg. The team fly to Bremen tomorrow.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 16 2009, 06:59 PM
A draw would be a decent result, then we can go for the win at the San Siro
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 16 2009, 07:04 PM
I see we're calling up all the big guns now. Gotta love Carlo. 
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 16 2009, 07:10 PM
Hmh, Fring's been so bad recently, I think it's a blessing for them he's out...
But you never know..
Posted by: Rivaldo Feb 16 2009, 09:16 PM
I want to see this lineup
-------------------------------------------------Dida-----------------------------------------------
---Zambro------------------Bonera------------------------Senderos\Maldini------Janku-------
----------------Becks---------------------Pirlo\Flamini------------Ambro------------------------
------------------------------------------------Dinho-----------------------------------------------
--------------------------------Pippo--------------------------Pato---------------------------------
But sure Carlo will play 'tree' and Seedorf in, Pippo - out(((
Posted by: han2503 Feb 16 2009, 09:23 PM
The team I hope to see against Bremen
Flamini--Beckham--Seedorf
Dinho
Pato--Sheva
Dida in goal, give the fullbacks a rest, I put Kala on the left because I think that it's a 'lesser of two evils' kind of choice. After the shambles agaisnt Inter it's obvious that's he's totally out of touch atm and having him on the left would be killing 2 birds with one stone: Playing him and helping him regain match fitness while not risking having him in the center. Bonera has o play because other then Paolo he's our best defender atm, and Paolo cannot play another game this week after the game against Inter.
Flamini imo has earned the right to be a starter, atleast until Gattuso returns, Ambro is just terrible atm, and apart from that last ditch tackle against Inter he's coming to be more of a burden to the team. He's supposed to cover the fullback while he's attacking, that's why Carlo plays our DMs to the sides of the midfield 3, yet most of the time he's in the opposition's box putting in bad crosses, Maicon did whatever he wanted on Sunday, and imo this falls on Ambro not being able to do his job. Until Rino is back Flamini should be the one starting in that position. Becks to play the Pirlo role and Seedorf moved back to his best position where he is twice more effective then he is as an AM.
Dinho and Pato pick themselves out and I'm going with a half each for Sheva and Pippo, Pippo to come on in the second half an ruffle a few feathers.
@ Tennie, I think Sheva is included becuase they'll know he'll be ready to play
As for what I think Carlo will put out. It will be the usual xmas tree
Beckham--Pirlo--Ambro
Dinho--Seedorf
Pato
Maybe he'll throw in Pippo instead of Pato if he's feeling adventerous
I don't think we've managed to win a single game with this set-up.
The Dinho--Seedorf combo just does not work because they are slow and Seedorf's tendency to pass back constantly.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 16 2009, 10:46 PM
So...no Shevchenko after all.
2/16/2009
MILAN - A.C. Milan communicate that, after the results of today's medical exams, the footballer Andriy Shevchenko will not be called up for the Uefa Cup match against Werder Bremen. The exams in fact evidenced that the healing process of the inflammation to the scar on his left quadriceps is not entirely complete.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 16 2009, 11:12 PM
There is something wrong with MilanLab.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 16 2009, 11:19 PM
Who's called up instead?
Posted by: Rivaldo Feb 17 2009, 12:26 AM
Nobody...
Han, are you joking?? Kaladze?? Arrrrr....
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 17 2009, 01:42 AM
I'm starting to believe that. Is there anyone (besides Abs) who hasn't missed a game due to injury so far this season? Anyway, if Kaladze is called up in place of Shev, we're doomed.
That's a name I haven't heard in a long time, since after the '06 World Cup.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 17 2009, 01:47 AM
Has Ambro been injured this season? I know he's had his problems in the past, but can't remember him being out due to injury so far this season.
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 17 2009, 05:25 AM
He did get an injury that kept him out of play for a couple of weeks but I do not remember what kind of injury it was. I don't think it was something serious, he only missed 2/3 games.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 17 2009, 07:01 AM
Han, are you joking?? Kaladze?? Arrrrr....
Well he's 1 of the only 4 current central defenders we have.
Yes he was horrible against Inter and might as well just put on an Inter shirt to begin with, but it's obvious that he's not match fit. We need to have back ups that could do the job. I put him in on the left so that he could regain match fitness but still not be a hazard by playing in the center
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 17 2009, 07:39 AM
Playing Kaladze on the left, still wouldn't solve our width problem. 
Even with Janku we're suffering. Sergio... 
Posted by: Darunia Feb 17 2009, 08:50 AM
I'd like to see this lineup:
Dida
Zambrotta Bonera Senderos Jankulovski
Beckham Flamini Seedorf
Ronaldinho
Pato Pippo
Flamini plays well on the middle, not so well on the flanks. 4-3-1-2, oh how I've missed it. I thought Pippo/Pato combo showed some potential against Inter (as long as Pippo can stay onside). Hope Ronnie is back to his best, when he plays with determination like against Inter, he is still great.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 17 2009, 09:26 AM
Pippo will get onside soon. He's a bit rusty.
You know this Flamini thing gets me everytime. I'd have expected him to be able to play on the flanks,since at Arsenal he's played as LB. It's just wierd.
Ronnie played well, coz his duties are well defined, it's not a split between him and Kaka. Carlo needs to fix that issue soon, of how to get our four number 10s to play in tandem. The thing is if he can allocate the jobs correctly, then it would be fine, since they're such great players (Andy, Zee, Ronnie, Ricky) they can't be stopped by pure tactics alone, if they're all playing to their strengths.
The problem here is that Andy shouldn't ideally have to shoulder defensive responsibility, more than cutting space for the DMs to make the tackle or for the fullbacks to get back.
Seedorf likes to play treqqie coz that's what he likes, to go up front, provide assists etc. It's not really the position he plays in that's irking him (withdrawn/ advanced)...however in our lineup, he's being used as solely a junction player, especially in the new 4-3-2-1. While in the old 4-3-1-2, he was also given the freedom to be a second creative mid, besides Rui/Kaka.
Ronnie and Ricky...both of them like the left side. I think Ronnie should be placed on the right, let him get used to it proper. I've seen him play that way for Brazil.
But this is just armchair talk. It's up to Carlo now.
I think what Carlo needs the most is some great assistants. Here it's wierd. You had Tassotti, Billy. These are all inexperienced guys, who were great players and looking to get into coaching. What he would need is some tactical input from someone other than Silvio Berlusconi...
Can we get the other fellow...Ten Cate?
Posted by: Tennie Feb 17 2009, 01:16 PM
Carletto made a brief statement at Malpensa on the way to Germany for the game.
Game-related comments:
* Dida will play in goal
* Pippo will play
* There'll be a turnover in defense because Il Capitano can't play 3 games a week.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 17 2009, 02:00 PM
Favalli 
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 17 2009, 02:30 PM
“Dida will play in goal. With regards to the rest of the team there will be a turnover in defence, because Maldini cannot play three games in a week. Inzaghi will play in attack because right now he's the only available attacker."
Hope it's just a bad translation and there's nothing wrong with Pato.
Posted by: dst Feb 17 2009, 02:33 PM
I don't think Pato has picked up an injury or anything, he's probably just being rested.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 17 2009, 03:42 PM
The game's getting a lot of coverage on Bremen's website.
There's a longish interview with Maldini (in German, don't have time to translate) http://www.werder.de/aktuelles/news/meldung.php/15043/Maldini-Keiner-kann-sagen-ich-haette-zu-frueh-aufgehoert.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 17 2009, 04:31 PM
i hope u r rite
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 17 2009, 05:32 PM
There's a longish interview with Maldini (in German, don't have time to translate) http://www.werder.de/aktuelles/news/meldung.php/15043/Maldini-Keiner-kann-sagen-ich-haette-zu-frueh-aufgehoert.
Cheers..
Google translator kinda gives you the jist of what they're talking about
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.werder.de%2Faktuelles%2Fnews%2Fmeldung.php%2F15043%2FMaldini-Keiner-kann-sagen-ich-haette-zu-frueh-aufgehoert&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 17 2009, 09:24 PM
lets hope Diego dsnt run all over us, because we might have to play him when facing Juve:S
Posted by: Tennie Feb 17 2009, 09:50 PM
Pato may have picked up a slight knock (piccoli problemi fisici in the original) and my guess is he won't play.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 17 2009, 09:56 PM
Incredible, but true: Paolo Maldini’s career last’s longer then the Champions League, he played 20 years ago (while the 5 month old Mesut Özil still didn’t even know there is a thing called football) against Werder, and will be there on Wednesday as an active player to mess his skills with the green-white shirts. A stainless career lies in the middle. (…)
Mr. Maldini, exactly 20 years ago you played with your present coach Carlo Ancelotti against Werder in the European Cup. Do you still have any memories from back then?
Oh, it’s been a long while, and my memories are meanwhile foggy, But it sure was a game in the competition of (land) champions. We were champions in Italy back then. Yep, and if I’m correct, I scored a header in the home game for our 1-0 lead, after a cross by Donadoni, right?
Home game – correct, 1:0 – correct, but it was a dubious penalty by Marco van Basten. You scored sure had the 1:0 against Werder in the 1994 Champions League edition in mind.
Oh! You see!...but the first duel was also in a competition of (land) champions, while we meet this time unfortunately just in the UEFA-Cup, even though it’s a competition near to the Champions League.
In Bremen people are glad to see especially you play once more, even though your team is of big names. How do you explain your unbelievable successful career in sucha long time period?
I think, it’s very easy. My motivation is very natural. I love my work, I have fun even after all these years. Maybe people do sense that. But I also have luck, that my body still permits all that. That must be of course right, if you want to play that long on the highest level.
Werder Bremen also have a veteran, captain Frank Baumann. He reconsiders ending his career 10 years after he joined the green-whites, with 33 years. You’ll be soon 41, do you grin about the “a strayed” thoughts of you captain-college?
No, that’s a decision everyone makes for himself alone. I think, it’s very personal matter. In that decision many different factors play a role. It depends on your will and physic state to carry proving yourself. I won’t interfere.
But can you provide the Baumann-fans with some Tips, how they can talk the Werder captain into a contract extension? That happened with you also – 2 years ago you announced for the first time your retirement, but changed your mind later.
That’s right. But I’m glad I changed my mind last year. This season I had only small problems, trained every day with the team, and when I played on the field I played from the beginning. I’m satisfied with that. Countless players ended their professional career and regret that decision later on. That can’t be my case any more! I’m really 40 years old! (laughs)
When your contract expires this summer, you’ll be 41 already. Is it really the end?
Absolutely. There’s no return. But I think, that’s alright with everyone, even if I feel myself physically better then the last two seasons.
Like your Bremer captain-college, in your career you’ve reach all top’s and low’s with one club. Such loyalty is uncommon under the modern-football circumstances. Why did you stay always at Milan?
Very easy, at home I found always everything what I thought was important. It’s difficult for someone like me, who was born here, who has a family here, who is connected in such a way with AC Milan, to find a reason to move somewhere else.
Do usually many young players come to you and ask for advices? Nevertheless you played on international stages even before some of them were born.
Well, what should I say. The situation today is different. The young players don’t have it easier exactly. In contrary. The team-rosters are much bigger then the ones years back. So they have less opportunities to show themselves. They need, beside quality and personality, also a good and bold coach. It’s hard to fulfill the expectations a club like AC Milan bears for a young player.
Yesterday night the 270th Derby della Madonnina was on. It was personally your 55th duel with your city rival. Does the 1:2 defeat mean AC must back down from their season objectives?
No question, the derby against Inter was an important match, but it does not go that far that we can say the outcome labels our season as good or bad. Our objective is, every year, to win either the home or European title. That cannot be done in one match. There’s much more in it.
You team college Ronaldinho found his form back at season start, but couldn’t repeat the same in the last few weeks. He was left out before the Inter game for 4 times from the starting eleven. Did you have to encourage him a team captain?
I did notice that he wasn’t satisfied, also because he sits in the locker room next to me. But it wasn’t necessary to say something special to him. The joy he takes every day with him on training, says everything about him. It proves his personality. I also think it was good for him he played with the Brazilian NT in midweek against such a strong side like Italy. As you already said, one should never forget that he was our most crucial player of the first part of our season.
How does your future look, after you stop this summer? Will you stay in the professional business?
Those plans are still difficult because I’m still fully into my active-player routine. At this moment there is no decision made. But there is enough time, to check all options and think about them and decide were to go on. It’s also an option not to do anything for the start. Fact stays, I’ll only start something that corresponds with my thoughts.
Does a coach-job correspond with your thoughts?
(laughs) You clearly don’t wish me good. If it is something I won’t do, then it’s probably a coach-job. No, it won’t go in that direction.
Here's my translation. Note - I made it in short time since I have to work, so parts of it can be phrased unprofessional or poorly.
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 17 2009, 11:53 PM
^^
Thanks for translating.
Posted by: woody Feb 18 2009, 11:58 AM
Sorry to hijack, but does anybody know if I am able to watch this game in Australia? It doesn't seem to be on ESPN or SBS which usually have the games.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 18 2009, 12:05 PM
Internet steaming is you new friend, mate.
If it's not on TV or cable, start downloading some bits!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 12:05 PM
Not sure if this is any help in Australia, woody, but Setanta is broadcasting the game.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 18 2009, 12:43 PM
Dude....seriously! 
I would have been banned 14 months ago, if it was a crime. We're an anarchy here, despite what all the mods with scary stories of shark infested fish tanks and sociopathic assassin alter-egos would have you believe. Posted by: acid911 Feb 18 2009, 01:14 PM
The pirate speaketh the truth!
He's a professional at this thread hijacking thingy too, just so you know.
Posted by: Rivaldo Feb 18 2009, 02:04 PM
channel4.com - Dinho may miss tonights game and as Carletto said 'Pippo is only our forward now'.
So No Dinho and No Pato??
------Becks-------------Pirlo------------Flamini---------Ambro------------
---------------------------------Seedorf-------------------------------------
----------------------------------Pippo---------------------------------------
??
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 18 2009, 02:05 PM
I think he might play Janku as a pure MF. With Antonini and Zambrotta as fullbacks. (Can't say we have wingbacks any more can we... 
)
Posted by: Rivaldo Feb 18 2009, 02:12 PM
I heard some suggest Ambro may play with Pippo as forward.....huh....where frome people take sucj ideas??
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 18 2009, 02:14 PM
We've done it before you know.... When a team clammed up, and we had to play long balls. We didn't win though.
Posted by: dst Feb 18 2009, 02:25 PM
Pippo like Germany. Pippo score tonight.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 02:36 PM
Technically speaking, we lost, but Ambro scored the winner for the next round...
Posted by: kizo Feb 18 2009, 03:30 PM
Milannews.it probable formation
MILAN (4-3-2-1): Dida; Zambrotta, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Ronaldinho; F.Inzaghi.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 04:07 PM
MILAN (4-3-2-1): Dida; Zambrotta, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Ronaldinho; F.Inzaghi.
Glad to see Dinho there
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 04:13 PM
Kaladze... is he Carlo's lover or what?!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 04:15 PM
His biggest problem (aside from the obvious kaladzities) is lack of match fitness. Better let him do a little work here than risk the game with Cagliari at the weekend - the Sardi are a good side this year.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 04:38 PM
yea senderos/favilli-bonera hopefully with zambrotta-janku/ favilli
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 05:06 PM
My predictions for tonights game is 1 -0 to Milan with a Dinho goal ! 
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 05:14 PM
I hesitate to predict but dst is right. Pippo likes to score in Germany so Fishdoll hopes to see that.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 05:26 PM
But wait. Didn't our objectives change? Isn't UEFA cup now top objective after we declared our capitulation for the scudetto race?
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 06:12 PM
MILAN (4-3-2-1): Dida; Zambrotta, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Beckham, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Ronaldinho; F.Inzaghi.
I know that carlo can win this Uefa Cup this year because he is a European meetings master, but kaladze and janku again? Seriously? I think we must prepare the team for the next season (because this one is gone for the scudetto) so why he can't play albetrazzi, bonera, mationi, darmiani etc.? Maybe just two or three of them, if they aren't better of kaladze and janku they are at leat even..... They can't play that bad and they will get exeperiance they crucialy need if we want to count on them next season... I have full confidence in anceloti but this time I think this is enough! WE NEED YOUNG PLAYERS THAT WE HAVE!!!!! We have a lot of quality young defenders, than why are we playing with this crap of defense......
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 06:14 PM
Wasn't it from the very beginning?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 06:23 PM
No it wasn't..but...now I don't see the point in resting people for Cagliari while this match is more important..
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 06:30 PM
Agreed. even if there is still a chance for the Scudetto (I personally don't believe there is), it's so slim that it's almost impossible for us to win it. miracles happen, yes, but there's no point in prioritizing the league above the UEFA Cup anymore...
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 06:44 PM
+100000 FORZA PIPPO !! FORZA MILAN !!!!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 06:45 PM
I personally think prioritising 2nd place over the UEFA Cup should be our goal. At least 2nd looks far more respectable the 3rd or 4th and it would avoid us having to enter the CL through qualifiers if we come in 4th.
Let's face it, UEFA Cup will always be the UEFA Cup and I don't think it's should dether us from doing our best in the league. I agree with you that the league is out of our grasp, but having said that I also believe that we should win every game we can in order to be ready to pounce on any Inter slip up that might occour
Posted by: dst Feb 18 2009, 07:03 PM
Man I already told you to go look at blowjob.com. Kaladze's is one of the best rated videos there.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 07:27 PM
Let's face it, UEFA Cup will always be the UEFA Cup and I don't think it's should dether us from doing our best in the league. I agree with you that the league is out of our grasp, but having said that I also believe that we should win every game we can in order to be ready to pounce on any Inter slip up that might occour
Totally disagree. I want us to be 3rd or 4th! I want us to play the preliminary match! You know what that means, right?
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 07:54 PM
I don't think that means anything, we're in the UEFA Cup for god's sakes!!!
I'm not even convinced that Serie B would do the trick at this point
We're Milan and to see us conitnually fight to get 4th spot is getting more then humiliating. The fact that we've been going through this season after season for 3 years now and no changes have been made to rectify this is more then enough of a clue in to see how the management feel about things.So I vote, we get into respectable 2nd place. Go into the CL with our heads held high next season and go as far as we can in that to make some money. Because use potentially losing out on the CL would be a disaster. We got to the point were Kaka was about to be sold off in exchange for cash because of the predicament we're in.
I personally am a firm believer that now that Silvio is not as interested as he once was in the club we can forget about major signings and this team being rebuilt now that most of the players in the current squad has gotten past their sell by date
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 07:54 PM
I don't think that means anything, we're in the UEFA Cup for god's sakes!!!
I'm not even convinced that Serie B would do the trick at this point
We're Milan and to see us conitnually fight to get 4th spot is getting more then humiliating. The fact that we've been going through this season after season for 3 years now and no changes have been made to rectify this is more then enough of a clue in to see how the management feel about things.So I vote, we get into respectable 2nd place. Go into the CL with our heads held high next season and go as far as we can in that to make some money. Because use potentially losing out on the CL would be a disaster. We got to the point were Kaka was about to be sold off in exchange for cash because of the predicament we're in.
I personally am a firm believer that now that Silvio is not as interested as he once was in the club we can forget about major signings and this team being rebuilt now that most of the players in the current squad has gotten past their sell by date
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:04 PM
18/02/2009
BREMA - Così Werder Brema e Milan in campo alle 20.35 al Weserstadion per l'andata dei sedicesimi di Coppa Uefa:
WERDER: Wiese, Fritz, Mertesacker, Naldo, Boenisch, Tziolis, Baumann, Ozil, Diego, Pizarro, Almeida.
MILAN: Dida, Bonera, Senderos, Favalli, Zambrotta, Flamini, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Ronaldinho, Inzaghi.
Sh!t no Becks
Why can't him and Pippo be on the same field?? I reckon they would do great, Beckham's crossing and Pippo's timing and positioning...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:07 PM
You didn't get me han. Last 2 times we played preliminary matches we went all the way to the final...
Anyway, matchstart is..?
Posted by: vahid Feb 18 2009, 08:10 PM
Why can't him and Pippo be on the same field?? I reckon they would do great, Beckham's crossing and Pippo's timing and positioning...
Hooray! No Kaladze
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:14 PM
So would anyone be so kind and offer me a link for net-stream? No TV-coverage for my network package this time...
Posted by: vnata001 Feb 18 2009, 08:19 PM
fillipo. try this site. http://atdhe.net/
and EVERYONE here should bookmark it. it has every sporting event happening anywhere, and all the streams are high quality. Enjoy mates!
Posted by: Bluesummers Feb 18 2009, 08:20 PM
anyone have a good media player streamÉ
Posted by: vahid Feb 18 2009, 08:20 PM
ZDF is showing the game.(it's free on hotbird)
Posted by: Nova Feb 18 2009, 08:25 PM
also rete 4 , dont know if they scramble it during the game
Posted by: vahid Feb 18 2009, 08:27 PM
I know as usual they'll scramble it.
Posted by: Nova Feb 18 2009, 08:27 PM
you dont have a sattelite dish ?
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 08:31 PM
4 mins until Kick off FORZA MILAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:32 PM
Anyway, matchstart is..?
Well if you want to believe in those things. I'm personally also a superstitious person when it comes to these things but I wouldn't bet on them either. Playing the preliminaries also means having to start pre-season early and then getting killed by overwhelmin fixture lists. I'd rather come in second and avoiding the hassle
as for a link for the game: http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-3647.html enjoy
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:34 PM
Thanks for the links! Now I can also watch...
No, no sat-dish, just cable TV. A better selection of regional channels there...
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 08:35 PM
Scottish Referee !
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 08:36 PM
players on filed let hope we play good
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 08:37 PM
ok bad start a very easy chance missed by bremen
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:38 PM
What a chance for Werder!!!!!!!!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:38 PM
Great chance for Bremen there Mertesaker left all on his own to take a shot after no one dealt with a corner, he scuffed it straight at Dida
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:39 PM
What a start by Werder...
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 08:42 PM
we have not done anything at all other than losing the ball
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:43 PM
Trademark Andrea backpass almost did cost us.
Bremen dominating.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:43 PM
We can't even get a look in atm
Posted by: Nova Feb 18 2009, 08:45 PM
what a shitty cameraman !!! totally cuts of the players with the ball
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:46 PM
Pippo was soooo not offside there!!!
All refs have suddenly gone blind 
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:48 PM
They are pressing us so much right now, the players keep losing the ball
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 08:48 PM
gr8 chip by r80
Posted by: Nova Feb 18 2009, 08:48 PM
terrible control by seedorf , could have easily been 0-1
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:49 PM
Agree that was not offside!
Good Dinho-Seedorf combo...
Now we get to play a bit..
Posted by: Nova Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM
good shot flamini !!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM
good shot from flamini good save as well
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM
OHH
Great shot Flamini
Just saved
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 08:51 PM
Nice shot from FLAMINI !!
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 08:52 PM
ronny is really great ! Great action by milan!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:52 PM
Good shot by Flamini, Wiese saves,..
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:52 PM
What's up with the camera angles today!!
Posted by: Nova Feb 18 2009, 08:52 PM
the cameras are making be angry !!! just like that spider cam againts merda !!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 08:55 PM
This is a stupid referee...
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 08:55 PM
Good thing it's a Scottish referee Flamini would've got a card otherwise i think 
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 08:57 PM
Favalli is making some terrible passes today
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 18 2009, 09:00 PM
Fixed
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:01 PM
pippo reaction
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 09:02 PM
LOL this Betfair commentating is querky
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM
nothing else but: OUR DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM
mistanke by senderos....
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 09:04 PM
Senderson with a big f**** up there. Lucky that that didn't turn into a goal
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 18 2009, 09:05 PM
Fixed
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:06 PM
What a stupid cross by Flamini!! Is he blind?
Seedorf in form today. Some brilliant passing..
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 09:07 PM
Seedorf in form today. Some brilliant passing..
Arsenal cross
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 09:07 PM
Diego is playing a great game ! He will be a great reinforcement for juve if he goes to Torino in summer!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
GOALLLLLLLLLLL
PIPPOOOO
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
pippo 1-0
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
INZAGHI GOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
pipooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
in his particulary style!!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
PIPPOOOO GOOOAL!!!!!!
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
Super Pippo Inzaghi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0:1!!!!!!!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 09:12 PM
Great play by Flamini
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 09:13 PM
better cross from him !!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 09:14 PM
PIPPO
Posted by: armiss Feb 18 2009, 09:14 PM
Super Flamini ! Super Pippo !
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 09:14 PM
but not only in this case, i think he is playing a great game tonight, apart his cross from 10 min ago he is without mistake..... Really glad to see him playing that way....
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 09:15 PM
The camera is crap
They shoot the ball and the camera stays on the player rather then the ball and you don't know where the hell it went!!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:17 PM
Senderos is a disgrace..
Posted by: vnata001 Feb 18 2009, 09:19 PM
FLAMINI IS IMMENSE! i am enjoying his performance..and clarence looks determined..
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 09:19 PM
i don't see piro very often today...
i think he should be subbed after the break with beckham. he'll do much better imo
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:23 PM
HT 1-0 i dont thin we deserved to lead
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 09:25 PM
i feel that ambro is useless and senderos barring 1 mistake with he made up for has also played well
CARLO START FLAMINI OVER AMBRO!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: vahid Feb 18 2009, 09:25 PM
HT.
IMO Flamini was our best player.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 09:27 PM
Best so far: Flamini,Zambrotta, Seedorf, and oh baby am i gunna be attacked for this one, senderos is playing well
the invisibles : Pirlo, Favalli, Ambro
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 09:28 PM
Sounds like Pippo's having a good game too.
Posted by: Darunia Feb 18 2009, 09:29 PM
Flamini, Seedorf, Pippo playing well. Ronnie gives away possession too easily, he needs to be stronger with the ball like Seedorf. Senderos with a trademark blunder already, hopefully that's his only one today.
I agree with the others that Flamini should start over Ambro.
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 18 2009, 09:30 PM
R80 should run more. Sometimes U can se him walk back when Bremen are atacking.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 09:30 PM
when he ran he forsced the mistake to flamini thts what a fit dihno looks like!!!
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 09:30 PM
i think we was offside 4 times...but he does play well imo
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 18 2009, 09:31 PM
They shoot the ball and the camera stays on the player rather then the ball and you don't know where the hell it went!!!!
+99999999
Whenever they take a shot at Dida i can't tell where the ball goes.
We're doing alright,shaky defense at the start.
BONERA is doing really well
Flamini is ripping it up too.
Posted by: Darunia Feb 18 2009, 09:33 PM
Our bench is funny for this game:
Abbiati
Maldini
Kaladze
Darmian
Antonini
Jankulovski
Beckham
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:34 PM
Playing in the stadium Celentano's Azzuro in HT...haha...
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 18 2009, 09:38 PM
We should get Beckham on and use the flanks,they look really weak on the flanks.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 09:39 PM
Abbiati
Maldini
Kaladze
Darmian
Antonini
Jankulovski
Beckham
Wow a bench full of defenders that is inspiring
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:43 PM
another good chance for them
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:47 PM
Actually I don't understand why Favster isn't LB, Zambro RB and Bonera CB?
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 09:48 PM
Does Ambro know English Tennie ?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:49 PM
Becks warming up..
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 18 2009, 09:49 PM
LOL ambro
"I DIDN'T TOUCH HIM!!!!!!"
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 09:49 PM
Unfortunately, Tennie left.
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 09:50 PM
hehe
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 18 2009, 09:51 PM
is this seedorf running all the time?
yes it is! Wow ! Something new from Clarence!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:51 PM
Good save by Dida,,,
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:51 PM
dida top save
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:52 PM
Bremen missing chance after chance..
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 09:52 PM
some good chances for werder..but dida saved..
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 09:53 PM
Are Pippo and Raul still neck-and-neck in the all-time Euro scoring mantle?
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 09:53 PM
Flamini is on fire today
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 09:54 PM
Great play by Flamini
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 09:54 PM
inzaghi almost.
we'll get past bremen cuz there just that bad but we wont win the uefa cup like this
flamini has been ace
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:54 PM
some good balls from r80 and piipo had chance to double the lead
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 09:56 PM
Butterbean Ambrosini yellowed yet again. It's becoming almost as common as Pippo's offsides.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 18 2009, 09:56 PM
Good lord this camera is one of the worst I've seen ever!! Don't know wether someone scored or shot wide!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 09:57 PM
is anyone watvhing on bet365 the camera is good
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 10:00 PM
Ambro like always risking a red
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:00 PM
Ry4n, Tennie is back.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
Oh!!
Pippo against the post!!
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
what a miss by pippo
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
pippo woodwork again
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
Why are we asking about Ambro's language skills?
I think his English is rather good, for what it's worth. Is he saying naughty words that can be lip-read or somethign?
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
SUPER PIPPO HITS THE POST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:01 PM
ah man nice ball and nice shot by pippo
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:02 PM
Cheers !
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:03 PM
The coolest thing I think I ever saw was Stam cursing out the ref in English during CL play years ago.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:03 PM
dida is doing really good
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 10:04 PM
I) Flamini doesn't deserve to warm the bench
II) Senderos > Kaladze
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:04 PM
when you have a target man like pippo who couldnt run if his life depended on it and guy like like r80 and zee who are in the same boat, well you have an attack that cant break out. and we find ouselves pinned in our own end, with no attacking subs.
this side has no balance hence they're holding on for dear life.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:05 PM
II) Senderos > Kaladze
+1
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:07 PM
I think his English is rather good, for what it's worth. Is he saying naughty words that can be lip-read or somethign?
no he did'nt swear or anything , he said " I DID'NT TOUCH HIM " real loud hence my question
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:09 PM
no he did'nt swear or anything , he said " I DID'NT TOUCH HIM " real loud hence my question Those were his exact words? In English?
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:10 PM
Yep
then a few minutes later he said " No foul " and he gets a yellow lol
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:10 PM
I'd pay to see that one, then.
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:12 PM
This would be a good result to take back to the Sani Siro !
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 10:13 PM
(Fishdoll would rather see Superpippo get another goal).
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 10:13 PM
actually i would like to see 2:0 ....
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:14 PM
U read my mind !
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:14 PM
I want a bloated scoreline to snuff out any hope of the away goal rule for Bremen. 1-0 ain't going to cut it.
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:15 PM
Diego playing Golf !
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:19 PM
1-1
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 18 2009, 10:19 PM
FFS
ANOTHER LONG BALL ANOTHER KNOCK DOWN ANOTHER GOAL
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:19 PM
1-1. Damn it.
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:21 PM
poor marking by ambro.
thats what they get.
coming out and defending like a serie b side
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 10:22 PM
why did 2 bremen players get yellows?
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 10:23 PM
Carlos last-minute-subbs:
seedorf-jankulovski
ronaldinho -beckham
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 10:24 PM
I HATE AMBROSINI!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:24 PM
We need someone in who can SCORE. If Carlo's playing for the draw I'll knock the stuffing out of him.
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 10:24 PM
diego for a "foul" on pirlo
and another because he did disagree
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:26 PM
3 min plenty of time for bremen to win it
Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2009, 10:26 PM
WHAT A MISS BY PIZZARRO!!!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:26 PM
almost conceded again
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:26 PM
pizzaro off the post.
hahaha pathetic
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 10:27 PM
Is there any striker available on the bench?
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 10:27 PM
HE's HORRIBLE GET RD OF AMBRO
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:28 PM
Favalli, the pinhead, with nearly an own goal.
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:28 PM
another chance by bremen
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 10:29 PM
FT 1-1.....just not good enough
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:29 PM
he's ok it's just he plays too many games.
this team has 0 depth all all departments.
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:30 PM
****. Carlo and his damned substitutions, and NO offense on the pitch, for all the flack our D gets.
Posted by: RED&BLACK Milan Feb 18 2009, 10:30 PM
Carlo pulls out the cigarettes
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:30 PM
FT 1-1 away goal had it been ULC i would have been satisfied but i think we deserve to lose
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 10:30 PM
Game ends with me wondering if its possible to wel Ambros *** to the bench for the rest of the year
WE ONLY WON BECAUSE TSOLIS MISSED 5 chances
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:31 PM
dint see the first half btu from what i saw they were brutal once again.
i think they had 4-5 minutes of possession in bremens half.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 10:32 PM
this team has 0 depth all all departments.
No there is NO reason why flamini can't start instead of him, he proved that his early success was no fluke with a great performance today.
Ambro burned out after the first 40 minutes
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:33 PM
And knowing us, we'll piss it all away at the San Siro and focus on our nonexistent Scudetto run.
Posted by: Minami Feb 18 2009, 10:34 PM
I'm really worried of the home game.
of course it's in the san siro, but i don't think our squard will change that much in one weeks time...
if we won today we would have it easier next week.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 18 2009, 10:34 PM
I can see it happening
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:36 PM
Now we'll have to listen to Carlo's "Next week is our priority" and the usual rigamarole he spouts from his trap over the next seven days.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 10:37 PM
True...
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 10:38 PM
and the "we just need to concentrate a little more" talk
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 10:39 PM
Maybe if we finish the season with nothing, a new coach arrives...
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 10:39 PM
watching this past game i saw the need for young midfielders that can move the ball forward i think Mesto from Genoa should be brought in for petty change, he plays with samba and is defensively aware. I've liked this kid in his few appearances this year but the Genoa-Fiorentina game he was Fantastic. He performed just as good if not better then milito that game.
Ambro needs to leave so Ricky can become captain, and to leave room for Mesto and/or a crippled monkey for an upgrade at the position
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:44 PM
Dinho again a candidate for the Milk Carton award today.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 10:46 PM
i'm placing Ambrosini on the "sell him for a pannini" list which he only just inspired me to create :S
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 18 2009, 10:48 PM
I am sensing that certain people on the board have forgotten Ambrosini's past contributions. He may not be playing too well at the moment (he is playing as a left winger for fcks sake), that dosent mean he is useless. I guess the next time Kaka or Pato goes through a bad patch of form we should sell them
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 18 2009, 10:49 PM
Well it could've been worse.
Werder Bremen have a whole team of lanky players lol...they just seemed to have a little more reach than the rest of Milan,especially in midfield.
Diego's their only shorty.
Look we obviously went there to defend because we only had 1 striker who was available,so there's really little wiggle room for tactics.
I think we just ought to look at the game with a bit of perspective 'tis all.
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:50 PM
Not really the right place to put this, but I just saw it on Channel 4.
Milan have organised a lucrative friendly with Qatari side Al Sadd on Wednesday March 4 at the Jassim Bin Hamad stadium in Doha.
Why?!? Are we that hard up for cash that we're slumming it with these hole-in-the-wall clubs?
Posted by: Rivaldo Feb 18 2009, 10:52 PM
Normal game for guesting...
Pippo - top class!
Carlo just should do changes earlier.
Next time we'll have Kaka and Pato.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 10:52 PM
Sounds like ambro had a bad game. Happens to all players. I woudln't want to see him leave.
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 10:55 PM
Ambro's not going anywhere. He's been really foul-happy as of late, though, enough almost to make Emerson blush.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 18 2009, 10:56 PM
Typical tactical play by Ancelotti.
Just one comment on the game, that lob Pirlo passed to Pippo in the 9th minute .. he wasn't offside
So when is the return leg ? next week or two weeks ?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 10:57 PM
Just one comment on the game, that lob Pirlo passed to Pippo in the 9th minute .. he wasn't offside
So when is the return leg ? next week or two weeks ?
i think one week
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 10:57 PM
I agree. but I think it'd be good for both him and Flamini if they were rotated.
What is it that every time a board member criticizes an Italian, exactly Pato and Kaka are brought up, even if that board member is not a fan of theirs?!
Yes, we are. are you surprised?! you should be used to it by now
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 11:00 PM
Because, zeddie, (and this is my impression only) some folks who are fans of Pato/Kaka/etc seem to me to be unwilling to accept any criticism of their favorites while heaping abuse on other players (not just italians. also janku, seedorf, etc).
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 11:07 PM
And how do you know il_diavolo_mtl is a Pato/Kaka fan?
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:07 PM
No don't get me wrong i have the upmost respect for his contributions to the franchise, however he is not the same as pato and kaka for one simple reason. He, being an older player must contemplate retirement as all older players do but hen they see tremendous downfall in their performances they should star to look at their careers in retrospect and wonder if he is still producing for his team. I am not saying it's all his fault as ancelotti believe Ambro is more match fit then Flamini who has battle hard every game Carlo has gave him a chance in. I'm also not saying Ambro hasn't helped us this year in fact his tackle on Stankovic during the derby and his header off a fantastic beckham FK was great of him but outside of a few great plays you saw how younger/lesser players were running around him (not only diego). If i have one semi-problem with this team it's Carlo's undying affection for his old players. I also don't suggest an arsenal-style team build, i really think age & experience are key! Despite people screaming and kicking about Seedorf (maybe for the same reasons as i did, Ambrosini) i find him to be a vital component to this team he is alwats getting the ball surrounded by 3-4 players and done well to open his passes up.
In a nutshell i don't condone Ambro the player, i condone Ambro the guy starting over Flamini a poised young gritty ball winning mid with a rocket leg.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 11:08 PM
forget it. he just answered it...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 11:10 PM
(I wasn't necessarily referring to mtl).
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:10 PM
I'm a HUGE PATO/KAKA fan, but i don't think either of them are immune to substitutions/poor showings and i think being a milan fan is synonymous with being a Ricky fan!
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 18 2009, 11:11 PM
I'm assuming you meant "condemn" both times?
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:11 PM
forget it. he just answered it...in a big way...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 18 2009, 11:12 PM
I don't, mtl. In fact I don't particularly like him. He's the best player on the team and I respect his contribution but I've never been (and am not now) a Kaka fan.
And before anyone pulls the 'tennie is a racist' card out again, I will point out that my all time favorite Milan player isn't Italian. He's Dutch: Marco Van Basten.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:13 PM
your assumption is correct
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2009, 11:13 PM
You're referring to me?
Posted by: Habitant Feb 18 2009, 11:13 PM
to regard or treat (something bad or blameworthy) as acceptable, forgivable, or harmless <a government accused of condoning racism> <condone corruption in politics>
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:15 PM
And before anyone pulls the 'tennie is a racist' card out again, I will point out that my all time favorite Milan player isn't Italian. He's Dutch: Marco Van Basten.
But i hope you appreciate the work he's done for this team. For instance I'm a big dida fan but i can't shy away from realizing how good a find Abbiati was and his contributions to Milan have been great so far.
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 18 2009, 11:18 PM
The goal we conceded was pretty much a carbon copy of the Stank goal from the Derby.
It was Pirlo again who didn't follow the runner
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 18 2009, 11:19 PM
everyone likes different players and i think there is nothing wrong with it but we should keep the club above all
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:20 PM
It was Pirlo again who didn't follow the runner
No it was Ambro who let the guy release without any urgency
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 18 2009, 11:26 PM
I guess they were both ball watching a bit.
Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2009, 11:29 PM
lol all in all just a bad game
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 18 2009, 11:45 PM
Didn't see any of the game, but well done to Milan. Taking a 'lead' back to the San Siro is always going to be a god thing.
Posted by: ACM1899 Feb 18 2009, 11:56 PM
If you saw the game you would not be saying this. I thought we played ok first half but the second was all Bremen, they had many chances on goal and we are very lucky we left with a tie.
Posted by: dst Feb 19 2009, 03:20 AM
Good result! 
However...
It was a fairly good first half by Milan but then... there's ridiculous and then there's us in the second half! We looked like some poor amateurs and deserved to lose.
Also, how can we concede the same goal on two consecutive games? Ambrosini was sleeping yet again! LEARN!
Tip of the day: when you can't take the ball out of our area comfortably... JUST SHOOT THE ****ING THING TO THE STARS!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 19 2009, 10:19 AM
I don't mind Ambrosini, what I mind is rubbish defense...
II) Senderos > Kaladze
Now really ZD, where did you pull that one out? Senderos was pathetic, he was so bad, that even aerially he sucked - Hugo Almeida won almost every header, the last one resulted the goal. A matchfit and in-form Kaladze never would have played like this.
GOOD SIDES: positive result, Dida, Pippo, Flamini (has to work more to became even more concrete when he's up front)
BAD SIDES: marking+movement, Senderos, Pirlo,..
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 19 2009, 10:30 AM
Flamini really impressed me yesterday ... And yeah, Senderos wasn't really that solid at the back .. I don't know if Milan will keep him beyond his loan spell.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 19 2009, 10:43 AM
I don't think Senderos's decision will be made, till we know whether we get Agger/CB or not.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 19 2009, 10:52 AM
Based on what I saw from him in the first half (I didn't watch the second half). and note that I said "Senderos > Kaladze". I didn't say anything about how good he was! if Senderos was pathetic, Kaladze was super-pathetic. after what I say from him in the derby, I can't believe there is a worse defender than him in Milan 'right now'.
Yes, Kaladze wasn't physically ready, but so wan't Senderos. he has barely played this season so it's right to say he's not match fit/adapted to Italian football/etc. either.
Maybe it's just me, but right now I feel safer with Senderos in defense than with Kaladze.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 19 2009, 11:09 AM
I'v been reading stuff on the net about Agger doing a medical etc .. Are Milan really that close !?
Posted by: dst Feb 19 2009, 11:22 AM
BAD SIDES: marking+movement, Senderos, Pirlo,..
Dida made an excellent save on a Diego shot but he keeps making the same mistake he did before, he fails to block or punch the ball clear away thus creating dangerous situations. Until he drops that habit, he does not deserve to play ahead of Abbiati who is in great form.
I thought Pirlo was amazing.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 19 2009, 11:34 AM
Yes, Kaladze wasn't physically ready, but so wan't Senderos. he has barely played this season so it's right to say he's not match fit/adapted to Italian football/etc. either.
Maybe it's just me, but right now I feel safer with Senderos in defense than with Kaladze.
I dont feel secure with either of them. There was a point were Kaladze could turn it on in the big games, but he cant do it any more. Senderos is a complete disgrace. I cannot believe he is wearing the same colours that Maldini, Costacurta and Baresi have worn.
At the moment our only good CB is Bonera and to a degree Maldini
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 19 2009, 12:13 PM
At the moment our only good CB is Bonera and to a degree Maldini
Of course, me neither.
but it if came to choosing one of them, considering their current forms, my pick would be Sen. I'd prefer to see Darmian ahead of both of them anyway....
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 19 2009, 12:33 PM
He had countless lost balls, and that means uneccessary lost balls. His movement and covering also wasn't on regular level, so...don't know, maybe I missed something out. Seedorf was better IMO, he did run and pass like old times..
Posted by: dst Feb 19 2009, 01:23 PM
but it if came to choosing one of them, considering their current forms, my pick would be Sen. I'd prefer to see Darmian ahead of both of them anyway....You know Kaladze is not exactly my favorite player but I'd pick him ahead of Senderos. The latter is just lame. Current form? Kaladze has only played one game!
Darmian ahead of both of them any day!
Seedorf also lost many balls and his wrong movement and passing at times put us under even more pressure in the second half. Amazing is not the word though I think both of them were very good last night.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 19 2009, 05:33 PM
Why is he playing as a winger them???
We have Janku who plays on his side. He's supposed to be the one doing the runs on the wing not Ambro. Ambro is supposed to stay back and cover Janku while he's attacking and double team with him when they're trying to defend, not spend 75% of the match in the opposition's box putting in terrible crosses and making bad touches that ultimately end up with us losing the ball everytime he even so much as looks at it.
Atm, based on form, Flamini trumps Ambro hands down, for this reason he should be the one starting, not Ambro, this game made this a clearly obvious decision, atleast for me, Carlo on the other hand will probably keep playing Ambro no matter what Flamini does
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 20 2009, 10:55 AM
Seedorf's passing is rather accurate, his real problem IMO is that he's too slow in front of the goal... holds the ball too much. in the Derby he had 2-3 good chances to scores but he he wasted them (e.g. min 68. but there were other chances like this too)
That's why I think he's better when he plays deeper, beside Pirlo, or in place of Pirlo. IMO he's not fast enough to be an attacking midfielder anymore.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 20 2009, 03:16 PM
As much as I hate to admit it, Pirlo has not been the same after his return from injury.
Watch any of our recent matches, and every time an opposing player came close to Pirlo, he went down at the slightest touch. Can't blame him, really, maybe he's afraid to get injured again. Also, he's been made to play really defensive, so there is an apparent lack of freedom he enjoyed before.The fact that he's coming back after such a long layoff doesn't help matters; neither does the fact that there is increased competition in the squad with the arrival of Beckham. I still have faith for him to get back, so hopefully this is just a slight dip in form.
Posted by: pacang Feb 20 2009, 09:16 PM
Watch any of our recent matches, and every time an opposing player came close to Pirlo, he went down at the slightest touch. Can't blame him, really, maybe he's afraid to get injured again. Also, he's been made to play really defensive, so there is an apparent lack of freedom he enjoyed before.The fact that he's coming back after such a long layoff doesn't help matters; neither does the fact that there is increased competition in the squad with the arrival of Beckham. I still have faith for him to get back, so hopefully this is just a slight dip in form.
that's the spirit.. he still got his weirdly-flown-long-balls (on the pitch, i mean).. he's not the same Pirlo after his return but Pirlo will always be Pirlo.. maybe he fully recovered physically, but mentally, its gonna take some time before he gets his super-cool-calmness again..
Posted by: acid911 Feb 20 2009, 09:20 PM
+21!
I think it's right around the corner! Gattuso also came back stronger before his recent injury.
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