Printable Version of Topic
Click here to view this topic in its original format
AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 08/09 _ Milan-Reggina -- 07.02.09
Posted by: Tennie Feb 5 2009, 12:30 PM
Milan play Reggina Satuday at the San Siro.
Pirlo is suspended for this game.
Here's Mediaset's projected lineup:
Abbiati; Zambrotta, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Beckham, Flamini, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Kakà; Pato
(they also project Milan primavera player on loan Di Gennaro as starting for Reggina)
Gazzetta shows the same projected lineup.
Posted by: Darunia Feb 5 2009, 06:26 PM
Stadio Meazza
It’s David v Goliath at San Siro as rock bottom Reggina travel to in-form Milan looking for a footballing miracle.
These are exciting times for the red and black half of Milan. A David Beckham-inspired 3-0 victory over Lazio last weekend saw Carlo Ancelotti’s outfit hurdle Juventus and move into second place. The Rossoneri’s poor start to the season has been confined to the history books and the Scudetto race is on.
If Milan are to catch city rivals Inter, who enjoy a six-point advantage at the top, they need to be consistent and to win games like this that seem to be routine outings. It is hard to imagine the Diavolo fluffing their lines, but they must deliver if they are to put pressure on Inter’s trip to Lecce.
Nothing is expected of Reggina as they make the daunting trip north. The Amaranto have forgotten what it is like to win and have picked up all three points just three times all campaign. Last week’s battling 2-2 draw with Roma on a waterlogged pitch will have boosted confidence, but this is a sterner test.
The Amaranto are three points adrift at the bottom and could have too much to do to stay afloat if they don’t pick up some unlikely points. Anything here would be nothing short of heroic but could turn their season around.
Milan had to dig deep to win 2-1 at the Stadio Granillo in Week 4 as Alexandre Pato scored the goal that helped steady the ship. Last term the Rossoneri made short work of their Calabrian visitors, winning 5-1 with a Kaka hat-trick.
Ancelotti has injury problems, but no fresh concerns. Kakha Kaladze, Alessandro Nesta, Gennaro Gattuso, Marco Borriello and Giuseppe Favalli are all unfit. Andrea Pirlo is suspended. Ronaldinho and Andriy Shevchenko are likely to start on the bench once more.
Reggina are without Antonio Giosa, Emmanuel Cascione, Luca Vigiani and Franco Brienza.
Keep an eye on: David Beckham (Milan) – After taking down Lazio with two assists, Beckham will be confident of having too much class for Reggina.
Last season: Milan 5-1 Reggina
Form guide: Milan (D W W D W) Reggina (L L L D D)
Milan (probable): Abbiati; Zambrotta, Maldini, Bonera, Jankulovski; Beckham, Flamini, Ambrosini; Kaka, Seedorf; Pato
Reggina (probable): Campagnolo; Lanzaro, Valdez, Santos; Krajcik, Barreto, Cozza, Carmona, Costa; Di Gennaro, Corradi
Ref: To follow...
It'd be embarassing if we dropped points here, but it's also what has happened at the past. We're at home, and we're playing a team at the bottom, so we better gain maximum points here. I think Carlo will go with Seedorf but I'd like Ronnie to get a shot here. Also, hopefully Bonera doesn't get a yellow so he can play against Inter.
Posted by: dst Feb 5 2009, 06:48 PM
They will probably stay back and defend a lot so I'd field Ronaldinho, he's our best player against packed defenses.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 5 2009, 07:37 PM
So there was a full training session after the team returned from Glasgow.
Warmups, drills, practice game, etc. Kaladze trained with the group.
Nesta trained separately but did 'optimal' (direct translation of the word used) training on running and changing directions.
Tomorrow will be training and the prematch press conference.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 6 2009, 12:42 AM
Unless we're planning to make Ronaldinho the next Rivaldo, I think he must play in this one. it'd be extremely unfair if in spite of Pirlo's absence, he sat this out.
Pato
Dinho ----- Kaka
Seedorf ----- Flamini ----- Becks
Janku ---- Maldini ---- Bonera ---- Zambro
Abbiati
Posted by: acid911 Feb 6 2009, 12:54 AM
Agree with the lineup wholeheartedly, ZD. 
Flamini in a deeper role helping the defense, of course!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 6 2009, 07:49 AM
Its really hard to predict the line-up for this one, but since Pirlo is out of this match, that does free up a spot for Ronnie.
If it was up to me, I'd keep the line-up as it was in the previous two matches, so as not to disturb the equilibrium of the squad prior to the derby.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 6 2009, 11:05 AM
mediaset have changed the linup with r80 coming for seedorf and ambro-flamini-beckham in midfield
Posted by: han2503 Feb 6 2009, 01:40 PM
Pato
Dinho ----- Kaka
Seedorf ----- Flamini ----- Becks
Janku ---- Maldini ---- Bonera ---- Zambro
Abbiati
Completely agree with that one.
Seedorf is much better in that deeper role rather the as an AM because of his slow pace. Ronaldinho is goos when defences are tight, which like dst said, there is no doubt that Reggina will try to park the bus. Dinho is great at providing balls through tight spaces, look at how many times he fead it to Pippo against Rangers on Wednesday
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 6 2009, 02:34 PM
Pato
Dinho ----- Kaka
Seedorf ----- Flamini ----- Becks
Janku ---- Maldini ---- Bonera ---- Zambro
Abbiati
I totally agree too, the midfield and the attack are totally in my way... Great!
The defense, like the defense, it can be better but not ours in that time.
I really hope to see R80!!!!
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 6 2009, 02:59 PM
Inter is playing an away match with the 16th lecce. They are a team with must draws in serie a! 10 out of 22 games.... so they will stay back looking for another one.... Can they do that? I hope they can! They will play on counter attacks and i hope they can score one and that they can grab a point so the DERBY will be the best ever if we win and i am sure we will! Reginna is a the bottom of the table with 8 lost, 2 draws and only 1 away win, so with our domestic record of 9 wins and only one lost game (the first domestic game in serie a this season with bologna on Aug.31st) i think it's only matter of how much will we score and how much will we win! So let's hope for another time that inter which is not in good form will lose some point so we can catch them!!
We have won the first fixture with Reggina on Stadio Oreste Granillo 2:1, With Boriello and Pato goals!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2009, 03:03 PM
Carletto has given his prematch press conference. Herewith are highlights:
*Pirlo's absence (due to suspension) isn't an insurmountable difficulty
*Beckham will play on the right of midfield
*Ronaldinho is available for selection (I got the impression that he'll probably play though it wasn't stated)
*Kaladze is recovered but still has work to do. He won't be called up for the game.
*Janku will be evaluated for a back problem
*Favster will be evaluated for a muscular problem
*Next week, Nesta will start training with the team.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 6 2009, 03:31 PM
Posted by: han2503 Feb 6 2009, 03:58 PM
best news I'v heard all week
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 6 2009, 04:03 PM
+1.
Our defense has been kinda embarrassing this season...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2009, 05:17 PM
So, Carletto lied. Kaladze is there.
Here are the call ups:
Abbiati, Dida
Antonini, Bonera, Darmian, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Senderos, Zambrotta
Ambrosini, Beckham, Cardacio, Flamini
Inzaghi, Kakà, Pato, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho.
I wonder about maybe wrapping Il Capitano in cotton wool for this one given that the derby is next week.
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 6 2009, 05:54 PM
Thing is, that will defeat its own purpose if we don't get the full 3 points against Reggina. Our defense is shaky enough as it is. Without Maldini it resembles a rusty colander.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 6 2009, 06:54 PM
Here are the call ups:
Abbiati, Dida
Antonini, Bonera, Darmian, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Senderos, Zambrotta
Ambrosini, Beckham, Cardacio, Flamini
Inzaghi, Kakà, Pato, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho.
I wonder about maybe wrapping Il Capitano in cotton wool for this one given that the derby is next week.
Like max said, it would defeat the purpose of trying to keep Maldini from injury if we lose points here because he's not playing.
Either way, these 3 points are just as important as the ones from the derby, if not more. We have an easy game (on paper) I would prefer getting these 3 points, rather then losing these and maybe managing to win agaist Inter. These are the easier 3 points out of the 2. Sure the derby is special and all but atm all I care about is the point. And there is a serious chance that we don't get all 3 against Inter (let's not forget, they are the home team) better do whatever we can to get these 3 before we face Inter
Posted by: acid911 Feb 6 2009, 07:07 PM
Boy, if we somehow do manage to win the Scudetto, a whole lot of credit should go to Maldini for keeping our backline in check. I already dread to imagine what it would have looked like in Nesta's absence and regular injuries to other so called defenders. 
Paolo, for me, is a prime example of a player who's constantly given his 100% day in and day out, in each match this season. We'd have been very lost if he had retired a couple of years back.
Posted by: dst Feb 6 2009, 08:54 PM
Not so bad news...
Whoa-oa-oa! I feel good
Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2009, 09:22 PM
Note for anyone who may happen to be in Milan -- they're selling tickets on acmilan.com to foreign fans only (ie, not to residents of Italy). Selection is crap (the corners on 1 r and 1 a, then 2nd and 3d rings) but at least tickets are doable in advance.
It looks like this will be the case for future games as well.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 6 2009, 09:34 PM
OH kaladze is back so we will concede some cheap goals
Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2009, 09:40 PM
(cue blanket criticism of unpopular players.)
And Kaladze is worse than Senderos in what way?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 6 2009, 09:44 PM
After Senderos, Kaladze will look very good I suppose..
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 6 2009, 09:59 PM
If we go 2-3 goals up, then i hope to see Darmian thrown on, experience against the bottom boys will do him worlds of good
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 6 2009, 10:42 PM
And Kaladze is worse than Senderos in what way?
against small teams kaladze has that error ability which leads to goals against big teams if he playswith maldini or nesta he should be ok..... as for senderos well senderos is younger so these is a chance of him improving his defence skills and decrease the error skils but it is to late for kaladze he has done loads of PHDs on how to perform and error to concede a goals u know touch the ball in box with ur hand
Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2009, 11:09 PM
I agree with whoarethepatriots (sorry about the parma result, btw). Would love to see Darmian get time if the game's well in hand.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 6 2009, 11:30 PM
I don;t think he's 100% fit to play. I'm hoping that it will Bonera and Maldini in the center of that defence, this applies for the Inter game also
Well you never know...
I personally think Kaladze isn;t all that bad, he's just not a CB imo, he's always been better when playing at LB, but it would be hoping too much if somehow he would be moved back there because in the center he is just way too error prone
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 6 2009, 11:45 PM
I think it's wiser to keep Maldini ready and fit for Inter. Reggina is the easiest team we can get right now. A Kaladze-Bonera pairing would do it I belive.
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 02:02 AM
Wattha!?
Unavailable: Favalli, Mattioni, Nesta, Emerson, Gattuso, Borriello.
Injured already!?
Posted by: gal_kenny Feb 7 2009, 02:24 AM
Now guys lets not get overcomplacent..Reggina is strong team..We have to play our game well and concentrate b/c i remember we used to struggle against small teams..they're last and we need concentrate and kill the game early
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 7 2009, 02:58 AM
Ronaldinho must take this chance and show Carlo that he's a man for a starting place otherwise it will make it easier for Carlo to bench him.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 7 2009, 06:05 AM
*Pirlo's absence (due to suspension) isn't an insurmountable difficulty
*Beckham will play on the right of midfield
*Ronaldinho is available for selection (I got the impression that he'll probably play though it wasn't stated)
*Kaladze is recovered but still has work to do. He won't be called up for the game.
*Janku will be evaluated for a back problem
*Favster will be evaluated for a muscular problem
*Next week, Nesta will start training with the team.
WooHooo!!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 7 2009, 08:40 AM
I can't wait for this match .. It is 12 hrs away, but I don't know what to do to kill that time !! 
I'v been waiting all weekend for it and I am hopeful inter stutter at Lecce this evenning (another match I am looking forward too). I think by now, many teams know they can intimidate inter and are not as fearful as before.
Regardless of the result at Lecce, Milan need to keep winning in the coming weeks; as inter will have a headache between the CL clashes and the league.
p.s. I'd say a 3-0 for Milan 
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:29 AM
I'v been waiting all weekend for it and I am hopeful inter stutter at Lecce this evenning (another match I am looking forward too). I think by now, many teams know they can intimidate inter and are not as fearful as before.
Regardless of the result at Lecce, Milan need to keep winning in the coming weeks; as inter will have a headache between the CL clashes and the league.
Agreed on both cases.
I'm hoping that the team doesn't get complacent because it's Reggina. We need these 3 points going into the Inter match next week
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 7 2009, 10:18 AM
Lecce to me seems like a typicall relegation team that still is dangerous, something like Perugia. Reggina on the other hand. Their Serie B course seems to be set very directly.
Expect a Milan 1-0 win.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 7 2009, 12:26 PM
Not sure if it's been said before this but Di Gennaro is likely to play for Reggina.
Posted by: kizo Feb 7 2009, 12:42 PM
It's kinda Offtopic, but what do you think about this formation? When we have Sandro and Rino Back
I Know that Carlo will never use it anyway
Will it Work?
----------------------------------Abiatti---------------------------
Zambrotta---------------------Nesta----------------------Janku
--------------------Rino-----------------------Ambro------------
----------------------------------Pirlo-----------------------------
-----Beckham-----------------Kaka-------------------Ronaldinho
---------------------------------Pato------------------------------
Carlo would die rather than play with 3 defenders
Posted by: Tennie Feb 7 2009, 12:45 PM
I think it's an interesting idea, kizo, but...yeah. What you said about Carlo and 3 defenders. Just don't see it happening.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 12:48 PM
3 defender i doubt that gonna happen
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 7 2009, 01:59 PM
I don't doubt that's going to happen, because that is not going to happen! it's not a wise thing to do anyway since we barely manage to keep a clean sheet with four defenders. I can't even imagine what would happen if we played with only three.
I predict a 3-1 win for Milan. hopefully I see Pato's name on the scoresheet at the end of the game.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 7 2009, 02:10 PM
I Know that Carlo will never use it anyway
Will it Work?
----------------------------------Abiatti---------------------------
Zambrotta---------------------Nesta----------------------Janku
--------------------Rino-----------------------Ambro------------
----------------------------------Pirlo-----------------------------
-----Beckham-----------------Kaka-------------------Ronaldinho
---------------------------------Pato------------------------------
Carlo would die rather than play with 3 defenders
Looks to me like a kamikaze tactic. Sorry, but one real CB and two "unnatural" defenders in the same line...even against Reggina looks very frightening. Maybe as a gun-ho option, otherwise I'd be intimidated...
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 7 2009, 03:26 PM
I predict 4 - 0 win
Posted by: ACMBoY Feb 7 2009, 03:57 PM
i hope
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 7 2009, 04:33 PM
probable line ups for the game.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 04:45 PM
whihc website linups are these i hope it is true
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 7 2009, 04:51 PM
Like the line up hope its true , Bonera's playing
Posted by: Tennie Feb 7 2009, 04:56 PM
(presuambly I won't be attacked for this sort of observation).
Hopefully Bonera will behave. He's 1 card from a suspension.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 05:03 PM
Seedorf will probably start...
Hopefully Bonera will behave. He's 1 card from a suspension.
(that's a bit too much)
And you are right we would be down right screwed if something happened to Bonera or Maldini
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 05:06 PM
Precisely. Tonight is the chance for R80 to prove he's worthy of a starting spot - I won't hold my breath though!
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 05:13 PM
I think it should be Ro behind KaPa not Ka behind PaRo.
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 7 2009, 05:27 PM
From gazzetta dello sport.
Maybe Carlo decided to rest Seedorf for the derby or give R80 a chance to prove his worth.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 05:42 PM
Milan (4-3-2-1): Abbiati; Zambrotta, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Beckham, Flamini, Ambrosini; Ronaldinho, Kakà; Pato. A disposizione: Dida, Antonini, Senderos, Kaladze, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Inzaghi. All. Ancelotti
this is mediaset linup and as it seems gazzeta predicting the same linup so there is a big chance of this linup i suppose
Posted by: Ro Rossonera Feb 7 2009, 06:37 PM
I agree and to bad it's Ronaldinho that has the same nickname as me
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 07:01 PM
Actually, I screwed that up, I'd like to see Kaka behind those two.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 07:10 PM
i agree with u r80 needed near the box while kaka in our half bcoz he is the best when it comes to getting the ball and creating the counters while r80 can play best in tight spaces
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 07:13 PM
That's exactly what I was thinking. Let's hope KaPaRo will win us the game if they play no matter the set-up.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 08:05 PM
07/02/2009
MILANO - Milan e Reggina così in campo a San Siro:
MILAN: Abbiati; Zambrotta, Bonera, Maldini, Jankulovski; Beckham, Flamini, Ambrosini; Ronaldinho; Kakà, Pato.
REGGINA: Campagnolo; Lanzaro, Valdez, Santos; Krajcik, Carmona, Cozza, Barillà, Costa; Di Gennaro, Corradi.
As predicted.
Would have preferred to see Seedorf starting instead of Ambro or Flamini, but all in all I think it's a good formation and should be enough to see us getting full points
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:23 PM
good linup
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 7 2009, 08:27 PM
Teams in the tunnel !
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 08:38 PM
Who the hell is commentating on FSC, it's offending my ears.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:42 PM
why are we playing these long ball like we have a bg strong target man
Posted by: acid911 Feb 7 2009, 08:45 PM
Any good stream guys, that's working for you?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:46 PM
bet365 for me
Posted by: acid911 Feb 7 2009, 08:46 PM
Never mind, finally got the ATDHE.net one working with Internet Explorer. Doesn't quite work with Firefox, though, maybe the problem is on my end. Here's the link that Rivaldo posted:
http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-3087.html
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 08:47 PM
Bet365 or http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=48cb03bd8ab18 is what I usually use.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:47 PM
good play bad end
Posted by: acid911 Feb 7 2009, 08:48 PM
It works fine for me too (mostly), but even though I have a 1 MB connection, the requirement is 512 KB, but still it stutters once or twice every minute.
Thanks, anyway buddy.
Posted by: Minami Feb 7 2009, 08:49 PM
hi guys....something happening in the game?
I can't see it....so please could somebody send information what's going on there??
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 08:49 PM
Some good play, but we need finishing. Becks should stay.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 08:51 PM
OHH great shot from Flamini!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:51 PM
we are playing better now
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 08:54 PM
Another great shot this time from Janku.
Really turning the screws now
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:54 PM
r80 is playing good and there is a lineswomen
Posted by: arivanjj Feb 7 2009, 08:55 PM
the linesman!!!... its a lineswoman :|
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 7 2009, 08:55 PM
Milan VS Campagnolo
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 08:56 PM
Sh!t Bonera yellow
Suspended for the Inter game
Posted by: Tennie Feb 7 2009, 08:56 PM
So, yellow to Bonera. Kaladze in for the derby, then?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 08:56 PM
bonera yellow so he will miss the derby
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 7 2009, 08:56 PM
BAD BAD MISTAKE BY MALDINI!!!! Bonera misses next game... 
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:00 PM
Ouch! Poalo nearly got his teeth taken off there
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:05 PM
wow di gennaro
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 09:05 PM
Silly ball to give away by Kaka', they break and make our defenders look like muppets, good save from Abbiati.
EDIT: 1-0. 
Posted by: Ry4n Feb 7 2009, 09:05 PM
wow 
Di Gennaro
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:05 PM
Goal Di Gennaro
How fitting
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 09:06 PM
Wow. 0-1. Poor, poor defense.
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 7 2009, 09:06 PM
This kid is good. We should have put a clause in his contract preventing him to play against us. 
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 7 2009, 09:07 PM
Is Beckham balding?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:11 PM
bonera seems to be looking for a red
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:13 PM
Oh!!
Dinho! Amazing run, but just wide
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:13 PM
wish r80 had scored it would have been some goal
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:13 PM
Time wasting by the Reggina keeper, yellow
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:17 PM
Was that a foul on Ambro in the box?
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:18 PM
Definate penalty on Ambro, Barila draged him down
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:18 PM
ambro one was a PK
Posted by: Darunia Feb 7 2009, 09:19 PM
PK not given =/
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:20 PM
HT 0-1 dont know how
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 09:21 PM
Not a very good first half. We're not really creating anything from open play at all. Does Ronnie think this is an exhibition or something.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:21 PM
HT: 0-1
Not good enough, we need something extra.
Maybe Seedorf coming on for Flamini or Ambro would do the trick, Dinho and Beckham so far our most involved players.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 7 2009, 09:21 PM
Hm. Well, at least one Milan Primavera player is doing reasonably well today. nice goal by di Gennaro.
Posted by: nmcg Feb 7 2009, 09:21 PM
what the fack is happening 1-0 cry : (
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 09:24 PM
HT 0-1. We HAVE TO come back from this!
Kaka has been terrible! Awful performance I think he lost the ball every single time he was challenged! He's having one of those days when he's sleeping well and deep but I'm sure Pato will be substituted instead of him.
As for Reggina's goal... my local team conceded 12 last weekend and they defended each one much better than Milan did!
Ronaldinho and Flamini our best players in the first half.
Why is Beckham so frustrated?
WAKE UP!!!
Posted by: Darunia Feb 7 2009, 09:24 PM
This is a typical game that Milan drops points in... but we really need to step it up. @ Home vs. bottom-placed team, I would like to see Pippo or Sheva on in the 2nd half.
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 09:25 PM
Same old story.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 09:25 PM
We deserved to be one nil behind as our play has been awful, in saying that though that was a definite penalty for Ambro. We need to speed our play up somewhat as we seem to just stroll around without too much urgency. With merda winning we really need to win to keep up with them.
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 7 2009, 09:26 PM
yes he is and because pf this he is a best player in the first half with Beckham...
Flamini is looking good in the midfield, isn't he? He is doing the dirty work and also he had some really shots!?
Posted by: armiss Feb 7 2009, 09:26 PM
we cant loosen, however this is our habit
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:26 PM
r80 imo played really well imo i think that a box stiker which in this case will be pippo should come on for someone but not pato or r80.....
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 7 2009, 09:28 PM
Ambroo!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 7 2009, 09:29 PM
hsm. how about something radical like a striker (take your pick) coming on for either flamini or ambro?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:30 PM
well if carlo is brave enough but then what will be beckham position so that seems a bit not possible
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:31 PM
it has to be pippo we need someone in box
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 7 2009, 09:32 PM
The same! Kaka or R80 will play the position Pirlo ussualy play and pato on R80 position, kaka the same and pipo as a striker! We need 2 goals, we need to risk a bit!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 09:33 PM
LOL with carlo in charge there is no chance of that.
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 09:33 PM
Kaka must come out, even Sheva will do better!
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 7 2009, 09:34 PM
That ref is one big 'C'-nut (... *hint* - rhymes with RUNT)
And the lines(wo)man is a J@ck@55 too!!!
Bloody IDIOTS!!!
...Milan took too long to pull the trigger on more than one occasion, with the above factors taken into account as well, we surely need to make the best of what ever chances we get in the 2nd half.
Congrats to Di Gennaro on his goal, but it shouldn't have happened hadn't there been a lapse in our marking!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:34 PM
kaka or r80 at pirlo position that is possible in fifa or FM
Posted by: KakaIlCapitano Feb 7 2009, 09:38 PM
This is possible in a game like reggina, with a crap of squad with a crape of midfield when we lose like now !!!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:41 PM
the ref making it even more harder for us
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 09:44 PM
LOL payback for Di Gennaro
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:45 PM
we defintly need a target man
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:45 PM
That Di Gennaro has one mean left foot
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 09:45 PM
can't pass,can't control the ball
looks like we're playing together for the first time
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:46 PM
pippo warming up
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:46 PM
Pipp and Clarence warming up
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:47 PM
ambro-seedorf
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:47 PM
Ambro for Seedorf, good sub
Now let's see who Pippo comes on for, hopefully it's not for Pato
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 09:50 PM
What the **** are they doing out there!???????????????!?!??!?!!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:52 PM
wtf is this ref
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:52 PM
Seedorf goal disallowed
WTF???
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 09:52 PM
Seems like we're trying too hard. We just need to chill out and play football.
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 09:52 PM
correctly disallowed. Kaka should have scored, TAKE HIM OUT!!!
We're playing as if it's the 90th minute and this is a Champions League final. We look desperate.
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 09:53 PM
That was a goal. Bad refereeing.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:53 PM
Trying to make sure we lose the 3 points before we face Inter?
This ref is helping them out with that goal
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 09:54 PM
WTF???
what was wrong with that??????????
Thats two dodgy decisions, I thought Serie A was clean now!?!?!?!
Edit: The only thing I can think off is the ref thought Seedorf handballed it. How the ref could see it amazes me!!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:56 PM
r80-pipo should have been kaka imo
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 09:56 PM
Is is really Carlo in charge of the subs?
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:57 PM
Penalty
Finally given, foul on Pato
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:57 PM
PK
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 09:57 PM
what are you all talking about? the officiating has been perfect!
Posted by: acid911 Feb 7 2009, 09:58 PM
Penalty?!!
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 09:58 PM
yes. one all.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:58 PM
KAKA!!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 09:58 PM
1-1 now lets win it
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 7 2009, 09:58 PM
Finally this f**king ref gave us the penalty..
Posted by: acid911 Feb 7 2009, 09:59 PM
Kaka to take it, then! Goal! 1-1.
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 09:59 PM
Bravo Kaka... you justified your presence on the field...
that was a crystal clear handball!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 09:59 PM
Finally the lady on the line got one right 
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:01 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 10:01 PM
I don't think they've got much wrong to be fair. Our penalty was a clearn penalty, the goal disallowed was a clear handball. You can make a case for the foul on Ambro, the ref could have given it either way though.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:02 PM
Becks for the winner???
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:03 PM
Now is when Beckham should cross in the balls, when we have Pippo in there
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:04 PM
Oh!!
Pippo so close, get's a hold of a Beckham cross with his head, just over the cross-bar
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:04 PM
first cross on whihc we had a chance bcoz pippo is there now
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:05 PM
Looks llike we're going to drop points.
Typical pf us to not win these types of games
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:07 PM
This ref is a fcuking cnut.
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:07 PM
No honestly I don't think there has been a single incorrect decision, I fail to see what you are complaining about.
It was obviously clear from the replay that Ambro jumped down... had the defender pulled him down he would have gone straight down, not after a hop. See laws of physics...
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:08 PM
Kaka limping
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 10:08 PM
Typical pf us to not win these types of games
Yep, next week is a must win. A draw will be a bad result, we'll still be too far behind Inter!
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:09 PM
What about this invented foul on Pato? Were we wronged again?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:09 PM
OMG kaka injured
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:09 PM
Kaka injured, sub for Antonini
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 10:11 PM
Bad sub for Carlo. and the bet365 commentator apparently can see the future.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:12 PM
It was obviously clear from the replay that Ambro jumped down... had the defender pulled him down he would have gone straight down, not after a hop. See laws of physics...
Blatant pen for Ambro. No question whatsoever.
Seedorfs goal, how the feck could the ref see a so called handball? Clarence had his back to him!
Foul by Flamini when he got the ball!
Nothing has changed in the Serie A, only this time merda are feathering their own nest instead of Juve.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:12 PM
are playing 4-4-2 now i suppose
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:13 PM
Please don't tell me you think that was a tackle??????????????
Posted by: armiss Feb 7 2009, 10:14 PM
Mourinho is one of those lucky lukcies
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:14 PM
Seedorfs goal, how the feck could the ref see a so called handball? Clarence had his back to him!
Foul by Flamini when he got the ball!
Nothing has changed in the Serie A, only this time merda are feathering their own nest instead of Juve.
Foul by Antonini inside the area nothing given to Reggina...
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 10:16 PM
Time running out...
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:16 PM
Oh!!
Pippo only centimeters away from touching that ball into the net
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:17 PM
That looked more like a slip then a foul to me
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:17 PM
Well that levels Ambro's penalty then.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:18 PM
Tme wasting by the Reggina players again. They have been doing it since the 41 minute mark
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:19 PM
Yeah he slipped and fell on the Reggina player...
Ambro jumped... I will post the clip later.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 10:19 PM
Had Inter been given the things we've been claiming for as 'fouls', we'd be going crazy saying that the refs are on Inters side..
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:20 PM
We keep putting in bad crosses that go straight out
Posted by: HasanHasanly Feb 7 2009, 10:20 PM
Classy one from the Reggina cap.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:20 PM
Cozza's recovery amazes me
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:22 PM
5 minutes to try and save this game
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:23 PM
they are doing really well in time wasting
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:25 PM
pato should have done better on that chance
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:27 PM
we have dropped 2 points
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:27 PM
FT
Terrible, terrible
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 10:27 PM
We deserved to lose absolute ridiculous performance.
It didn't help that the ref was on crack
Posted by: acid911 Feb 7 2009, 10:28 PM
FT 1-1. 
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:30 PM
we should worry abt genoa/roma/voila now bcoz next week is derby game we lose that and we will be fighting for 4th
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:30 PM
Ah it's sad... we tried so hard to help Reggina tonight but they will surely be playing in Serie B next season!
Ridiculous... the coach and the players are responsible for coming out thinking they'd win the match with their presence alone. That's not the mentality of champions!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:34 PM
Ridiculous... the coach and the players are responsible for coming out thinking they'd win the match with their presence alone. That's not the mentality of champions!
i wouldnt blame the coach that much for this one i think he put the rite subs rite linup the players the players were not helping like maldini going to much forward and being caught, the wide players beckham/janku/zambrotta trying to deliver to crosses but there was one man surrounded by 3-4
Posted by: Warchant Feb 7 2009, 10:35 PM
this was an awful match to watch. we don't even deserve the tie. this is usual milan though...play well against good opponents and suck it up against weaker opponents. probably ancelloti's biggest fault as a coach.
i know pato didn't score, but he seemed to be the only one that seemed like he wanted to try everytime we went down the field.
and i figured at some point we'd have realized the beckham cross wasn't working.
oh well...go catania!
Posted by: Warchant Feb 7 2009, 10:36 PM
oh yea, and did the ref forget he had a whistle at the end of the game?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 7 2009, 10:36 PM
How to make your life worse...
This is just pathetic! 1-1 against the last team in league!
Those Reggina players are so bad. The only good thing is their keeper.
And that idiotic referee...
Oh how bad this game was. It all came down wether we are or are not prepared to take easy points. But no. We just couldn't. Arrghh...
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 10:36 PM
2 defensive midfielders with 1 SECONDSTRIKER!!! against the bottom team in the league?
And when have we EVER scored from high balls coming in from the wing?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 10:37 PM
7 points, a defeat against Inter and it's over. A draw and we need a miracle. Victory and we stand a chance.
Posted by: Nova Feb 7 2009, 10:37 PM
I've seen worse performances.
Too bad about the draw tough... And I hope kaka's injurie wont be that serious.
Next week against Merda , must win !
Forza Milan !!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 10:38 PM
so next week we win we will be back witht at hope we draw we will be out and if we lose we will have to look forward to secure the 3rd position...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 7 2009, 10:39 PM
And when have we EVER scored from high balls coming in from the wing?
Last match maybe?
What would you do? All we got is a SS and a finished striker on the bench? From this point of view, every choice would be the wrong one..
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:40 PM
Ridiculous... the coach and the players are responsible for coming out thinking they'd win the match with their presence alone. That's not the mentality of champions!
I agree that our arrogance bit us in the backside tonight although to be fair to carlo he did actually make good subs
We do need to change our mentality though.
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 10:41 PM
What would you do? All we got is a SS and a finished striker on the bench? From this point of view, every choice would be the wrong one..
That was a set piece.I'm talking about runs down the flank with high balls in.
I can understand it when Inzaghi came on but before that it's useless.
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:43 PM
The coach is responsible for the team coming out as if they're playing against amateurs. He is also responsible for the tactics. We did not need 2 defensive midfielders against Reggina and he should have told them to STOP with the crosses. Also... Ronaldinho was substituted and Kaka remained on when the latter was a big fat 0, he should have come out way sooner.
And of course most of our players did not even try...
8 points...
Posted by: han2503 Feb 7 2009, 10:44 PM
This is just pathetic! 1-1 against the last team in league!
Those Reggina players are so bad. The only good thing is their keeper.
And that idiotic referee...
Oh how bad this game was. It all came down wether we are or are not prepared to take easy points. But no. We just couldn't. Arrghh...
Why we most probably won't be crowned champions come May. Let's all hope for a dignified 2nd place finish for ous 'efferts' this season
Posted by: dst Feb 7 2009, 10:45 PM
I can't believe I'm the only saying this...
I have never seen Kaka play worse than this! He should have been substituted.
Posted by: elcordobez Feb 7 2009, 10:48 PM
I have never seen Kaka play worse than this! He should have been substituted.Well technically he did get subed
God i hope he's alright for next week.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 7 2009, 10:51 PM
My bad.
I agree with you that Kaka' was dreadful!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 10:54 PM
I have never seen Kaka play worse than this! He should have been substituted.What I mean is that carlo bought attacking players on rather than defensive ones. Ricky might not have had his best game but we all know that he has the capability of changing a game on his own, I would always play him. I thought Clarence was awful tonight though, I expected more from him.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 7 2009, 10:54 PM
Sell Ronaldinho and get Di Gennaro. Everyone wins
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 11:03 PM
We've done things like this before and it hasn't worked. We need new ideas.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 11:15 PM
I have never seen Kaka play worse than this! He should have been substituted.yea true our best players kaka and maldini were terrbile today
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 7 2009, 11:17 PM
and kaka could have a foot fracture according to carlo which is even further bad news
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 7 2009, 11:28 PM
Oh ffs!!!!!
Posted by: Darunia Feb 8 2009, 12:05 AM
Flamini was great today in the middle, that's where he should always play - not on the wing. Looks like Ronnie and Seedorf for Inter if Kaka is out.
Posted by: Habitant Feb 8 2009, 12:11 AM
as per usual
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 8 2009, 12:26 AM
I U take a quick glance at the Serie A table you can see that these 5 teams(Lecce,Bologna,Chievo,Torino & Reggina) are at the very bottom and we dropped points against 4 of them. How pathetic. This is were we will lose the scudetto. If we had won we would be ahead of Merda.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 12:44 AM
As long as we have this problem of beating the very bottom table teams, we cannot win the league. now we're certainly capable of beating such teams, it's our mentality that creates this problem.
Posted by: Warchant Feb 8 2009, 12:49 AM
as i said earlier...i think one of carlo's biggest faults in his coaching is getting his players up for weaker opponents. but great at getting them up for big opponents.
that's why we've thrived in the CL and sucked in Serie A
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 8 2009, 12:56 AM
that's why we've thrived in the CL and sucked in Serie A
Spot on.
This is why hard-working players and a coach with a winning mentality are needed. Star players don't care enough, and coaches like Carlo find excuses.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 12:56 AM
that's why we've thrived in the CL and sucked in Serie A
Yup. Carlo has worked with MANY players over 8 seasons in Milan and 2 in Juve and yet he has won the title only once. I don't think the problem lies anywhere else. the players' not showing up cannot be the reason, because Carlo has had many different 'teams' at his disposal over the past 10 years. it's just that he is a CL coach, not a league coach.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 8 2009, 01:14 AM
One little word: Motivation. 
Something which Milan lacks, and Carlo can't provide.
Anyway, just so everyone knows, I'll be creating the inter thread in a little while. I'm preparing the graphics and images as well as the stats, so don't act smart. For the time being let's discuss the Reggina match. And here I thought Reggina were Milan v2 - a small version of our club. One that we liked to feed. Anyway, if we had to feed them, should have fed them all 3 points. A solitary point won't do either us too good, nor them.
Posted by: weeeow Feb 8 2009, 01:33 AM
This is why hard-working players and a coach with a winning mentality are needed. Star players don't care enough, and coaches like Carlo find excuses.
sad but true!
anyways, I didn't see the game, so I don't know how badly we played/ reggina defended. Kaka'
hopefully we get the must win in the derby - since that IS a BIG GAME!
FORZA MILAN!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 8 2009, 01:43 AM
I cannot agree this is the only explanation. Motivation wasn't are problem this time. Are approach was. And, what can surprise, a lack of creativity. How many chances did we create in second half? How many of them were real actions?
Thing is, I just won't flush the whole thing into our coach. He's responsible at the end of the day, but...it wouldn't be fair to say the problem lies only in him, his skills or his pro et contra's.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 8 2009, 01:52 AM
I agree that putting all of the blame on Carlo is unfair.. but when you look over the last 8 years at all the great players and all the great teams we've had, we have 1 league title to show for it. There are very few things that have remained constant throughout this period, Carlo being the main one. I am very confident many competent managers would have been able to win at least 1 league title with the squads he's had. Unfortunately he cares too much about the European Cup and almost treats the league as warm up games.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 8 2009, 02:00 AM
But it's not that Carlo cares too much about european success, it's the whole club-attitude, starting from the bottom right to the top! That's why I'm saying it isn't fair just to blame Carlo! And it's certainly (IMO) stupid to blame everyone! So... there is no real solution.
But honestly, at least 3 of the 8 seasons couldn't be won, agreed? One way or the other...
Posted by: novfan Feb 8 2009, 03:32 AM
I put the draw squarely on Carlo's shoulders and his slavish dedication to the 4-5-1 formation. I don't care if that's what got us as far as 2nd place so far this season. Given the immense talent of this squad 2nd place should be an embarrassment. Ironically, considering the state of things, we'll be lucky if we finish that high by season's end. Tonight's draw was a disgrace.
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 8 2009, 03:43 AM
that's why we've thrived in the CL and sucked in Serie A
Exactly, though it can happen to any coach who's been around long enough, not just Carlo.
It's easier to get it up for Manchester United or Barcelona than some bottom-of-the-barrel Serie A team you're required to play twice a year. However, it's scandalous to drop those kinds of points at home, as we did this afternoon.
Posted by: Ro Rossonera Feb 8 2009, 03:52 AM
woops that's what I understood...lol
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 8 2009, 05:45 AM
It's easier to get it up for Manchester United or Barcelona than some bottom-of-the-barrel Serie A team you're required to play twice a year. However, it's scandalous to drop those kinds of points at home, as we did this afternoon.
I think Carlo has improved this year in terms of getting the players motivated. I don't know if it's because the team doesn't pick itself anymore due to us having options, but our home form has been superb. Shame to spoil it yesterday.
Posted by: Warchant Feb 8 2009, 07:12 AM
i think we have a lot players that COULD be motivated if someone just motivated them. you can't say just because these guys are stars they can't get up for a match.
if that was the case chelsea, man u, barca, real, etc. would always be losing titles. but they don't...and i feel it's because they have someone to motivate them
don't get me wrong, i love carlo, it just irritates me that he can't motivate our players in games like this
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 10:27 AM
Thing is, I just won't flush the whole thing into our coach. He's responsible at the end of the day, but...it wouldn't be fair to say the problem lies only in him, his skills or his pro et contra's.
But I didn't say only Carlo is to blame, did I?
One of our other problems is that we have too many 'winners'; too many 'champions', too many 'mega stars'. when you have a squad mostly consisted of young (but capable) players, or at least older players who have not won everything there is to win in their career, it's easier to motivate them and get them up for these kinds of games. because they're hungry! there is a strong desire to win, to succeed. if we only want to sell jerseys and fill the stadium and win in big games/CL, then we're doing fine. but if we are to win something we have managed only once in the past 10 years, the Scudetto, this is clearly not the way to do it. this Milan can potentially beat any team in the world but it can also fail to defeat relegation battling teams over and over again because it takes a lot for a coach to motivate them for such 'boring' occasions [Regginas, Lecces. etc.].
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 8 2009, 10:47 AM
Nota bene
Another would be we have too little italian players who put domestic success infront of anything. But that depends on the mentality of the club. Calciopoli and our managements policy both did their job, and the Serie A isn't more what it used to be. It turned into a competition in which traditional clubs like Milan, Juventus, Lazio or Fiorentina look like half-hearted contenders and alltime redicules like Inter blow their decades of frustration off year after year.
Just to say, this debate is very complex, and has many faces.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 11:02 AM
What I mean is, we would have probably done better with a more disciplined coach. the management are where the problem starts it seems. they want both a [rather] soft coach like Carlo, and a team full of [rather] old stars, and it's not going to work in the league (I'm waiting to see how we will do in the CL, but I fear our glory days in the CL are over as well)
(Can you explain based on what Fiorentina is a traditional club, while Inter is an all-time ridicule?!)
PS. I don't think "ANYTHING" but ourselves' mistakes (or approaches?) can be the reason for our failures in the league.
Posted by: amancik Feb 8 2009, 11:39 AM
If things don't improve, we're never gonna win Scudetto. We keep blowing every opportunity that goes in our way to at least close in on Inter. To beat Inter is easier said than done, I'm just afraid that we could lose that one.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 8 2009, 12:21 PM
if that was the case chelsea, man u, barca, real, etc. would always be losing titles. but they don't...and i feel it's because they have someone to motivate them
don't get me wrong, i love carlo, it just irritates me that he can't motivate our players in games like this
+1.
Funny how we keep winning a couple of matches by a big margin (motivation), and then lose/draw to a small team right after that (unmotivated team).
A league is not won by winning against the big 5 teams - it's much more than that. This inter game can be a real crackpot, you're right.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 8 2009, 12:54 PM
Based on the fact that they were founded around 1920 and that they have a long Serie A tradition. Also, based on their pre-relegation stands in the 90'ties and 80'ties when they mostly presented a thread or a serious Scudetto contender. I could have chosen Genoa or Torino in stead because they have a "more convincing" tradition and more titles, but I wanted to focus on the 85-99 era. It would be apsurd to say Torino is hitted or somehow sent on the wrong track by the 99-06' changes.
Can you tell me a club in Italy that ambition was bigger and achived less and caused more laughs till recent times?
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 01:25 PM
You didn't get my point, Fillipo. let's forget it.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 8 2009, 02:00 PM
Well, what's your point? The question was precise?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 8 2009, 02:07 PM
Fell asleep just after the game started, so I have no idea how the result came about. I expected 3 points and I expected the team to be ready for the derby.
Kaka' is injured, Bonera is suspended, and the points difference between first and second just stretched another 2 points.
Oh well, I assume it was a hard fought draw by Reginna, as they faced the best attack line in Serie A last night.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 8 2009, 02:39 PM
The one bright point in yesterday's game to me was Di Gennaro's performance. yes, yes, he plays for Reggina but we do still own half of him and I thought he did quite well.
The milan performance? meh. Seemed to me like they expected to win by showing up. Not a lot of motivation seen (fault to both coach and players) seen and, well, Bonera really shouldn't have gotten that card.
Posted by: gal_kenny Feb 8 2009, 03:05 PM
we should have won the game...i watched the whole game..we completely dominated the game..Seedorf is ridiculous...can't wait for gourcuff to come bak...They had only one chance on goal...i feel dissapointed but all hope is not lost..if its God's will 4 us to win the scudetto we'll win if not..oh well..but i'm optimistic....Di Gennaro performance was good...Di Gennaro to replace inzaghi in the future..we had good players out there...we need to get all our best players playing for other teams to make our team the best and throw away the bad players we have...Kaka has a trauma to his left knee...does this mean he won't play vs Inter.? i hope he does though....Hope we win though....Ronaldinho likes holding unto the ball to much..he and seedorf slows down our tempo in our game which sucks....wen u have a free person pass the ball...Dang!!! he had a good game but he holds unto the ball too much and its really annoying!!!
Posted by: gal_kenny Feb 8 2009, 03:07 PM
(Can you explain based on what Fiorentina is a traditional club, while Inter is an all-time ridicule?!)
PS. I don't think "ANYTHING" but ourselves' mistakes (or approaches?) can be the reason for our failures in the league.
I support u 100%..get young and fast players...players that can fight!!! seedorf can't have 2-3 good games in a row...we need a new coach..can't wait for a new coach!!! really...we've suffered too much!!!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 8 2009, 03:14 PM
kenny, fyi Di Gennaro is a trequartista (an attacking midfielder in the general mould of a Rui Costa or a Boban) and not a striker. I agree that he had a good performance.
Posted by: gal_kenny Feb 8 2009, 03:19 PM
Tennie, do u think Kaka wouuld play be ready vs. Inter?
Posted by: Tennie Feb 8 2009, 03:24 PM
Afraid not, Kenny. (See the derby thread).
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 8 2009, 03:32 PM
Thats's a really good point, somthing I've not thought about before.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 04:11 PM
Then how can Inter's dominance be justified? they barely have one Italian in their regular XI.
(I'M NOT AGAINST HAVING AN ITALIAN BACKBONE AT ALL! I JUST THINK RIGHT NOW OUR PROBLEM LIES SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THAT IS (BESIDE THE COACH AND MANAGEMENT ISSUES) HOW EVERY INDIVIDUAL PERFORMS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONALITIES)
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 8 2009, 04:31 PM
Inter have a team of fighters and not superstars which really helps them. Guys like Stankovic, Cambiasso, Zanetti, etc. aren't exactly considered World class players, but you can bet you'll get 110% from them every game. When you look at us with the likes of Seedorf and Ronaldinho, they'll give you 110% when they want, otherwise they'll give you 10%. I don't think it helps that certain memebers of the team are guarenteed a place in the team regardless of their form.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 8 2009, 05:59 PM
Also, like I said, Inter "indoctrinated" them to be after the scudetto. That's the only thing they can achive. I mean, no player with brains comes to Inter expecting any European success..
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 10:24 PM
Come again?
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 8 2009, 10:33 PM
We had a lineswoman and IMO she did well.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 8 2009, 10:33 PM
One of the line officials during the game was a girl, zeddie. Ponytail and all!
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 8 2009, 10:47 PM
Ponytail and all! ... OK! Is there a picture of her? I kinda can't believe it
Posted by: acid911 Feb 8 2009, 11:38 PM
Trust my word.
I saw her. Maybe you can catch a glimpse in the videos Rivaldo posted, and hopefully you get to see more lineswomen in the remaining league matches. I think it's a refreshing change. Women can do this job as well as men, so why not? I think I also heard something about female announcers in the stadium in this week's matches!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 9 2009, 12:29 AM
Dunno about at Milan's game but there was definitely a female stadium announcer at the Palermo game (and a female doing play by play on RAI).
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 9 2009, 09:32 AM
I had never seen women officials in men's games before [especially in football]. it's interesting, and of course, good. they say women are more accurate in many ways than men.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 9 2009, 02:23 PM
I saw her. Maybe you can catch a glimpse in the videos Rivaldo posted, and hopefully you get to see more lineswomen in the remaining league matches. I think it's a refreshing change. Women can do this job as well as men, so why not? I think I also heard something about female announcers in the stadium in this week's matches!
Yup there was a female lines-woman ... had long hair, black
Posted by: pandan_wangi Feb 10 2009, 04:49 AM
just helping to convince, i saw the linesperson is female...
it's a clear vision...good b**bs & a**
Posted by: acid911 Feb 10 2009, 05:12 AM
Well that doesn't make her too much of a linesman, then, huh?
Correct word would be linesperson!
Posted by: Darunia Feb 10 2009, 05:55 AM
NBA has been using women officials, so i'm glad its going into other sports as well
Posted by: dst Feb 10 2009, 01:03 PM
And she was very beautiful too. Didn't anyone else notice that?
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 10 2009, 01:30 PM
Who? the Reggina game lineswoman?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 10 2009, 01:49 PM
So I didn't see this match (big surprise ), but someone who did (a neutral) told me that we played really well and dominated...but Reggina had just closed the wall down.
He felt we lost, because we didn't have any physicality in our attack. He's a Chelsea follower, and he said Chelsea would just have thrown the likes of Essien, Mikel and Drogba head first into the opposing defence to clear a path. So were we actually throwing crosses in, but had no one at the end of them? Damn..Borriello!
Also what's this he told me about Kaka losing the ball that led to the goal? True? And was an Ambro penaltycall denied?
EDIT: I could go thru previous posts, but I'm worried I'll feel depressed about having missed a huge Milan is cr@p argument...so someone fill me in please.
Posted by: dst Feb 10 2009, 01:59 PM
Yup. And she was wearing those ugly shining uniforms...
That's true. He easily lost the ball several times and because we were playing upfront they could counter-attack.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 10 2009, 02:04 PM
I knew we should have sold Kaka. Can't believe we keep these washed up players just to see young ones like Di Gennaro show him up.
Do we still have Cedric?
Posted by: pandan_wangi Feb 10 2009, 04:13 PM
Correct word would be linesperson!my bad
it's fixed
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 10 2009, 04:35 PM
Feel free to ignore him pandan. I know it can be impossible to do, but you must try. Your sanity depends on it.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 10 2009, 06:20 PM
Great causes call for great sacrifices.
And upholding the English language, grammar and composition is one of the greatest causes of our time. The future of the Internet depends on it. Han can understand that, finally, so why can't you Captain? To good language and syntax!
Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)