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post Sep 7 2015, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2015, 10:07 AM) *
Cliche?? How is pointing out his obvious shortcomings a cliche?


Because you never advocate his strengths. EVER.

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And seriously, you labelling that I hate this player or that so you can make a point is what is getting so cliche here.


It's also true.

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I repeat one final time, I don't hate Zapata, when I've hated Milan players in the past like Muntari for example I was 100% honest about it, and there were legit reasons for that. You saying that I hate Zapata just to make your point is getting old.


Then you'll have to prove you don't hate him by showing positivity now and again. You have in the past occasionally, but suddenly you have nothing but criticism of him.

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Point is, he has flaws in his game which can be a serious detriment to our team. What I'm saying here us based on pure fact,


Prove it. Prove your point. Show how many times he cost a goal, a point or a win.

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not based on bias, like you do with Mexes for example where you consistently label him a red card magnet when he doesn't even average 1 red card per season for us.


I label him combustible, not a red card.

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And now I hate Alex? Are you serious with this Danny?


Given the tirade you're on about him and Zaps all of a sudden there's few other conclusions to draw. I was talking about being unimpressed with Romag, nothing more, and from absolutely nowhere you start bitching about Zaps and Alex.

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Wow, can you get any less tolerant of other's opinions when they don't jive with yours?

My opinion is no longer valid? Thanks that's good to know...

Alex has been terrible throughout pre-season, that's a fact, not some made up whim just because I suddenly apparently hate him too. He's made mistakes, looked unfit and completely out of it at times as well. These are not things that will suddenly change once he plays an official game simply because it's official and not a friendly.


Yes it will.

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I was happy with either/or as well, but Alex atm is simply not looking like he's fit to start, simple as that really.

Again, why would you go for 2 players who have shown they can be serious problems for the team during games? Especially when there's an easier solution in Romagn and Mexes?


Again, I was talking about Romag and Romag alone, you were the one to whine about Alex and Zapata and starting worshipping at the shrine of Mexes. If you were wanting to address my earlier comments about A&Z you might have wanted to quote the stuff you were replying to.
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post Sep 7 2015, 10:25 AM
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PS I gave the conditions of your opinion no longer being valid - if you were indeed taking second hand accounts of performances in friendlies as the basis for them then, yes, your opinion on that is worthless.

Example:

Person A: 'this dude was rubbish in that friendly'
Person B: 'in that case that player is rubbish'

I prefer to judge on competitive action, which is why Berto has been painful in the competitive stuff but was actually ok pre-season.
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post Sep 7 2015, 11:48 AM
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post Sep 7 2015, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 7 2015, 11:48 AM) *
Jeez, you guys are worse than a married couple. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I want the car. He can have the house, the cheating b*stard.
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post Sep 7 2015, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 7 2015, 10:22 AM) *
Because you never advocate his strengths. EVER.

Yes, I have more than once, I've also said that his cons outweigh his pros (fast, good tackler) and that's why he should not be a starter. I think he's a good backup, but why risk starting him when there are better options? Simple as that really.

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It's also true.

No it isn't and you're being childish here just for the sake of not admitting to being wrong

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Then you'll have to prove you don't hate him by showing positivity now and again. You have in the past occasionally, but suddenly you have nothing but criticism of him.

Like I said, I've pointed out his good attributes more than once, selective memory on your part does not change this fact. Problem for me is that I don't think his positives outweigh his negatives. And I have criticism for him as a starter, which is what you want his role to be. I'd be very happy with him as a back up, he's solid and a good option coming off the bench. However playing him frequently is a huge no for me as he has a mistake in him for each game he plays, so limiting that number is what's best with him

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Prove it. Prove your point. Show how many times he cost a goal, a point or a win.

Are you serious with this? I don't need to prove anything! His mistakes are obvious for all to see. I don't need to be going through match tapes just to prove something to you that you already very well know and majority of Milan fans also already know. Also, the fact that no one else besides you trusts him as a starter should be enough of an indication.

Also, just for the sake of indulging you a bit I'l try to find a couple of gifs of him f@cking up and passing the ball straight to the opposition. Btw, Saponara's goal last week was down to him as well so...

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I label him combustible, not a red card.

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Given the tirade you're on about him and Zaps all of a sudden there's few other conclusions to draw. I was talking about being unimpressed with Romag, nothing more, and from absolutely nowhere you start bitching about Zaps and Alex.

Tirade? You're the one that jumped down my throat as soon as I said I wouldn't play either of them, you accuse me of over reacting when people mention Allegri yet you're doing the same thing here. Also, I was talking about the fact that you would choose Zapata and Alex in your starting 11 because Romagnoli wasn't "convincing", yet you disregard the fact that Zapata made a bigger mistake against Empoli than the 50-50 call penalty Romagnoli gave away

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Yes it will.

No it won't. Fitness and form doesn't automatically get switched on and off because it's a friendly or an official game.

Alex has looked out of sorts in all the games he's played so far. That has nothing to do with it being a friendly

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Again, I was talking about Romag and Romag alone, you were the one to whine about Alex and Zapata and starting worshipping at the shrine of Mexes. If you were wanting to address my earlier comments about A&Z you might have wanted to quote the stuff you were replying to.

I was replying to all of it, Romagonli and the fact you'd want Zapata and Alex starting ahead. It all ties in together

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PS I gave the conditions of your opinion no longer being valid - if you were indeed taking second hand accounts of performances in friendlies as the basis for them then, yes, your opinion on that is worthless.

Example:

Person A: 'this dude was rubbish in that friendly'
Person B: 'in that case that player is rubbish'

I prefer to judge on competitive action, which is why Berto has been painful in the competitive stuff but was actually ok pre-season.

Again, form and fitness have nothing to do with it being a friendly or not. You think Miha doesn't take into account that he's made mistakes in the friendlies or that he's looked a couple of steps behind the rest?

Because I assure you, he will and does. After all that is what friendlies are for.

And again you're being a general @sshole to me just to prove your point which makes absolutely no sense. Respecting someone's opinion goes both ways.
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post Sep 7 2015, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 7 2015, 01:08 PM) *
I want the car. He can have the house, the cheating b*stard.

That's right, me and acid had a lot of fun in that house (we also took the car for a spin every now and then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
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post Sep 7 2015, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 7 2015, 01:48 PM) *
Jeez, you guys are worse than a married couple. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) They might as well be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They talk/argue with each other more than my parents. XDD
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post Sep 7 2015, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2015, 01:25 PM) *
And again you're being a general @sshole to me


We can chat again when you cool off. And I'll be taking the family dog. (wondered what those stains on the back seat were)
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post Sep 7 2015, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 7 2015, 02:16 PM) *


All you need is:

Monto, Mexes, Alex, Zapata and it's like litmus paper.

(SES & Allegri can also be used)
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post Sep 7 2015, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 7 2015, 04:03 PM) *
We can chat again when you cool off. And I'll be taking the family dog. (wondered what those stains on the back seat were)

Like I said, I'm not the one who needs to cool off, you've just literally said that my opinion is invalid because it doesn't go in line with yours.

What do you think you were being there? A perfect wife?

Take the dog!! Me and acid will get a cat!
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post Sep 7 2015, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2015, 10:05 PM) *
Take the dog!! Me and acid will get a cat!

I'm more of a parakeet person, but let's get the cat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 7 2015, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 7 2015, 05:05 PM) *
Like I said, I'm not the one who needs to cool off, you've just literally said that my opinion is invalid because it doesn't go in line with yours.


No, I said it's invalid because you based on it a second-hand opinion, and of a friendly at that.

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What do you think you were being there? A perfect wife?

Take the dog!! Me and acid will get a cat!


You two...we are SOOOOOOOO over! Just wait till I release the videos on YouPorn - why do you think I never filmed myself?
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post Sep 7 2015, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 7 2015, 06:05 PM) *
I'm more of a parakeet person, but let's get the cat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I'm disappointed in the treachery here. No cat for you, I'm going to block off all p*ssy.

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post Sep 7 2015, 11:08 PM
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post Sep 7 2015, 11:10 PM
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Makes me wonder, though, if we will ever get Mexès and Zapata playing at the back this season? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Wouldn't that be something? We probably will if the injuries and the chop chop at the defense keeps up. Need to see this pair again going at it at the CB spots.
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