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post Oct 26 2014, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 26 2014, 01:47 AM) *
Sampdoria 0-0 Roma

If we win tomorrow we're 3rd.

Yep, Samp are really solid this season, really interested to see how long they'll be able to keep this up.

Hopefully we don't ruin this chance we've been given to not only take 3rd but claw back 5 points on Roma within the span of 3 weeks.

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Pogba's definitely the best prospect in football right now. He's had some good games against the other top Serie A sides too. He was very good at the World Cup too.

As for hitting the jackpot, they signed him for nothing and will get a minimum 30m for him. I think that's what X-Off meant.

Agreed, and 30m wouldn't even cut half of what Juve will set his price imo, they're not us, they know how to get the best price for their best players.
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post Oct 26 2014, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 26 2014, 02:51 AM) *
Pogba's definitely the best prospect in football right now. He's had some good games against the other top Serie A sides too. He was very good at the World Cup too.


He was a flop at the world cup! Well...not flop, just not impressive.

Best prospect in football? Like I say, till he does it against Olympiakos and not just lesser Serie A teams I'm not convinced.

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As for hitting the jackpot, they signed him for nothing and will get a minimum 30m for him. I think that's what X-Off meant.


Guess we hit the jackpot with Honda then!
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post Oct 26 2014, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2014, 08:59 AM) *
Agreed, and 30m wouldn't even cut half of what Juve will set his price imo, they're not us, they know how to get the best price for their best players.


When was the last time Juve sold a player for 15M+?

Last time they got 11M was Matri to idiotic us, but you have to go back to summer 2011 for the last time they got 15M. Diego.

This is not a club who make big money on big transfers at all. Mainly because they tend to keep them!
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post Oct 26 2014, 10:50 AM
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It's been a while. Though they were rebuilding for a while. Even Diego they spent 25m for the year before they sold him for 15m!
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 26 2014, 10:38 AM) *
When was the last time Juve sold a player for 15M+?

Last time they got 11M was Matri to idiotic us, but you have to go back to summer 2011 for the last time they got 15M. Diego.

This is not a club who make big money on big transfers at all. Mainly because they tend to keep them!

That's the point, they usually keep their best players, but when they do sell their best assets they make sure to get the best money out of them

They were the first side to sell a player for big money: Zidane. And rebuilt an entire team with that money
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post Oct 26 2014, 12:05 PM
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That's the point, they usually keep their best players, but when they do sell their best assets they make sure to get the best money out of them


Well kindly give me the last time they sold a player for 15M+ other than Diego?

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Er, no, that was just the latest in a long line of transfer fee increases. Figo preceded that, along with Crespo and Vieri, in the 30 millions.

The first side to sell a player for big money? Technically Torino with Lentini to us for 13M in the early 90s.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 26 2014, 12:05 PM) *
Well kindly give me the last time they sold a player for 15M+ other than Diego?



Er, no, that was just the latest in a long line of transfer fee increases. Figo preceded that, along with Crespo and Vieri, in the 30 millions.

The first side to sell a player for big money? Technically Torino with Lentini to us for 13M in the early 90s.

Zidane wasn't just in the 30m range though. At the time it was record breaking and held that stance for a while until recently when Real, City and Chelsea started throwing money around like it's nothing.

And again, I can't really give you a list because Juve rarely sell their best players (calciopoli year aside), but when they did it, the did it very well.
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post Oct 26 2014, 08:17 PM
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Figo was 40m+ pretty sure.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 26 2014, 08:17 PM) *
Figo was 40m+ pretty sure.

Do you know how much Zidane was sold for? I know Juve got 2 or 3 top players back then with the money they sold him for, Buffon being one of them, don't know if Nedved was also purchased with that Zidane money
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Just did some research

They sold Zidane for 64.6m euros in the summer of 2001.

And in that same transfer window they got Buffon, Thuram and Nedved

Salas and Zenoni were also brought in for a total of 154,95m euros, as per transfermarkt

In that summer they sold both Zidane and Inzaghi (to us) (64.6m for Zidane and 32.5m for Pippo)

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/juventus-fc...&detailpos=
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post Oct 27 2014, 12:01 AM
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Yes, Zidane cost £48M, this is not a revelation. Point is, Figo was £36M - so while it was a new record, these records became meaningless as soon as the £30M barrier was broken.

tbh they became meaningless when Francis became the first £1M player.
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post Oct 27 2014, 12:35 AM
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Transfer fees should be abolished. This is where US sports are lightyears ahead of this sport.

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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 27 2014, 12:35 AM) *
Transfer fees should be abolished. This is where US sports are lightyears ahead of this sport.


Imagine if that happened...
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post Oct 27 2014, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 27 2014, 01:49 AM) *
Imagine if that happened...

If they go the US, it would be great. Contracts mean something, trading makes it fair for lesser teams.

Never gonna happen though. Gotta protect the money teams!
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post Oct 27 2014, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 27 2014, 12:01 AM) *
Yes, Zidane cost £48M, this is not a revelation. Point is, Figo was £36M - so while it was a new record, these records became meaningless as soon as the £30M barrier was broken.

tbh they became meaningless when Francis became the first £1M player.

The Zidane record fee held on for a while though, I think Ronaldo to Real broke it (Kaka was slightly lower than that)

But the point is, this was in 2001, and when they did sell their best player, they got great money for him and rebuilt a team with it

Bare in mind this was a Moggi run Juve, this new management has taken a bit of time to really get into the swing of things but they've been making some great deals these last 3 years or so
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