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post Nov 6 2014, 10:40 AM
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He's looked so off at United so far.
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post Nov 6 2014, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 6 2014, 03:31 AM) *
That's bs, the really good players don't go out on loan, they play on their own team.


You think Mourinho will prefer him over Matic and Ramires? He's only 21, coming from an injury. He only decided to join us on loan so he could grow as a player, not warm the bench which he could have very well done at Chelsea.
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 6 2014, 09:40 AM) *
He's looked so off at United so far.


True, ACL's never see the player come back to what they were.
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 6 2014, 12:49 PM) *
You think Mourinho will prefer him over Matic and Ramires? He's only 21, coming from an injury. He only decided to join us on loan so he could grow as a player, not warm the bench which he could have very well done at Chelsea.

Fabregas also plays in the "2", so that's Matic, Ramires and Cesc he's behind.
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 6 2014, 10:49 AM) *
You think Mourinho will prefer him over Matic and Ramires? He's only 21, coming from an injury. He only decided to join us on loan so he could grow as a player, not warm the bench which he could have very well done at Chelsea.


Exactly. It's no wonder he and his agent are disgusted with his time so far at Milan. It's not like we have a midfield abundant with world class talent. He, De Jong and Bona would have been, for our level, great.

But it's never bloody happened.

For whatever reason, Pippo fancies neither MvG or Bona.
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post Nov 6 2014, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 6 2014, 10:30 AM) *
*cough* Falcao *cough*

Different cases, Falcao is an established player. I didn't make this clear but I was talking about prospects (not that it normally happens with established players anyway). I can't remember a team loaning out a youngster that was considered a big thing. Yes, teams have made mistakes. Madrid and Barcelona in particular have in the past sold young players they then had to buy back when they came good but when a youngster is destined to be a big thing teams keep him and actually play him sooner rather than later.

I honestly can't think of any such cases, please name some players that I might be forgetting.
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:36 PM
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Before I do, bear in mind the Chelsea midfield. Matic, Fabregas, with Mikel in backup. Very VERY hard for a youth player to even get on the bench in that team.

But examples of good young players loaned out to get game time? A certain Ignazio Abate...spent 6 years out on loan before he became our first choice RB.
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 6 2014, 10:36 PM) *
But examples of good young players loaned out to get game time? A certain Ignazio Abate...spent 6 years out on loan before he became our first choice RB.

Exactly! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:34 AM
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Wilshere at Bolton, Sturridge at Bolton are 2 that come to mind.
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Marchisio. On loan to Empoli (2007-2008).
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post Nov 7 2014, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 6 2014, 11:18 PM) *


Point is you're wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 7 2014, 09:17 AM
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Lukaku at West Brom and then Everton. Beckham went to Preston.

that's 5 examples, dst, is this enough yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 7 2014, 11:45 AM
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Team MF 1 - 0 DST
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post Nov 7 2014, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 7 2014, 12:34 AM) *
Wilshere at Bolton, Sturridge at Bolton are 2 that come to mind.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2014, 02:07 AM) *
Marchisio. On loan to Empoli (2007-2008).

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 7 2014, 09:17 AM) *
Lukaku at West Brom and then Everton. Beckham went to Preston.

that's 5 examples, dst, is this enough yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Team MF 1 - 0 DST

Well first of all we're talking about a player that could possibly, as some people that have seen him play one and a half games tell us, make it at Chelsea and you're giving me two examples of players that didn't. Sturridge and Lukaku. I'm pretty sure MvG can achieve that feat.
I don't remember what happened with Beckham.
I'll take Wilshere and Marchisio as their case is similar. Still, as you might notice all these players stayed in the league their loaner team play at. That's not by chance, you'd want a young player to play in the league you're competing in and get used to it and you'd especially not want your player playing in his third different league in three seasons as is the case with MvG. Also, none of them came off an ACL injury.

I could take all of them as good examples and my point still would just change to it's rare for that to happen.

Honestly, give me one reason not to believe that post-surgery MvG is a hyped-up nothing rather than a great talent that Inzaghi refuses to play because they have different tastes in music or something. There's nothing you could say to change my view of him. Until MvG actually plays again and is good he's a big fat nobody.
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post Nov 7 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 7 2014, 04:46 PM) *
Also, none of them came off an ACL injury.

Why's that an issue? You seem to pretend it's not for Glass Rose.
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