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Posted by: han2503 Nov 10 2010, 11:02 PM

It's the big one. And the first time I've been optimistic about in a long time.

What I wish to see against Inter:

Abbiati has cost us too many goals in such a short period of time, it's time he sits his @ss down!

Abate has been doing good, but for this kind of game, he's someone I'd rather not play. Antonini is more stable, plus he won't have to face Maicon, cr@p as he's been lately he's still world class and can pull something out at any time.

Ambro in front of the defence is just amazing, it's where he should play, no more of this cr@p with Pirlo playing there trying to defend while the other mids are god knows where. Flamini and Boateng the obvious other choices, Flamini will keep it tight while still moving the ball around while Boateng is the energy we need to keep it moving. Please no Rino or Seedorf, or even Pirlo in that midfield 3. We need to beat Inter at their own game, their strength lies in the midfield. And we need to have muscle in there. Not Pirlo and Seedorf trying to twinkle toe their way in.

Pirlo the obvious choice as AM. Seedorf did well today, but he faded as soon as the clock hit 60.

Robinho is the obvious choice for such a high tempo game if Pato is injured, which I'm assuming he will be. Robinho's finishing is worrying, but hopefully today's goal will give him confidence.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 10 2010, 11:59 PM

You're on a roll, Han. Let's make it count fellas, about time we tasted a win against the boys in blue!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 12:23 AM

Well I'm just hoping that I'll keep on rollin'

This is the first time in I don't know how long we're going into the derby top of the table and most importantly above Inter. Hopefully it will give us that mental push to win this.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 01:14 AM

Han, I like your line-up, but Maicon RB, Abate RB, Antonini LB..... what makes you think Maicon and Antonini won't face each other while two RB's would?

So yeah... Abate + Zambrotta should start... Abate has been doing well, he earns and should start.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 11 2010, 01:16 AM

Agreed. I wonder how much of that has to do with me posting right after you create the next thread. I did so in the last one or two you opened. I guess we'll find out. At the end of the day, I just want a match worthy of the derby between the two clubs of the best footballing city in the world.

Lots of passion, skills, and intense atmosphere. Has been a while since we had that, 2008 actually.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2010, 02:03 AM

As much as I'm doubtful of Pirlo's capacity to play as a trequartista, Ambrosini has been doing so well in front of the defense it'd be a pity to relieve him from there. So I'm going with han's line-up as well.

Abbiati has been awful lately, so picking Amelia would be only logic, though we all know it won't happen. Zambrotta usually plays well against the big sides, and I still trust Antonini more than Abate. Boateng and Flamini should be untouchable. If Allegri prefers Gattuso over any of them, he'd be making a huge mistake. They complement our midfield perfectly. And up forward, Ibra + Robinho is the only choice we have, considering Pato and Inzaghi are injured.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 11 2010, 03:26 AM

X, why do you doubt Pirlo as the treq? In my mind he can do at least as well as Zee or Dinho if not better. At this point in their careers he has more stamina than both and neither has blistering speed either. Its not like Pirlo isnt creative enough for the job. Wit Ambro, Flamini, and KPB we should have a mid that can lock down and provide Pirlo with some support for attack when needed too.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 11 2010, 06:05 AM

Can't say I dislike your lineup Han, but I must say it doesn't seem realistic. I think I'd prefer it actually (Especially Amelia).

Realistic looks like this, I think:

This is assuming Pato doesn't find fitness before the game.

Posted by: arivanjj Nov 11 2010, 11:09 AM

theres no way allegri will bench abbiati =[ just praying he doesnt stuff it up in one of the most important matches of the season

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 11:25 AM

On paper it is RB vs RB, but on the field, if Maicon is playing on Inter's right and Antonini on our left, then Antonini has to be the one that handles Maicon


Now don't try to take the credit Also everyone remembers the topic starter, and no the one who posted the 2nd comment


Flamini simply cannot be dropped, Allegri would be mad to do so, also Seedorf for this game is asking for trouble. He couldn't handle more then a half yesterday against Palermo and the frist half was played at a really slow tempo. Imagine him trying to play 90 against Inter, such a high tempo game. He'd be dead by half time. also Pirlo is becoming a huge liability in that midfield 3 against strong teams. He needs to be moved forward, where all he has to worry about is creating, something that he's great at.

Also Abate is just not going to cut it for this game. Zambro, if he's fit, should be playing

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 11 2010, 11:28 AM

I suppose Oddo's still out? Part of me likes the idea of Abate going up against the much slower Chivu. Also like the idea of Pato on the right flank.

Do Flamini and KPB have the lungs to play 3 matches back to back. I don't think there is a problem with Rino starting and Ambro playing more box to box. KPB worried me a bit in that last match.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 11:52 AM

I bet you that Rino who hasn't played for an entire week would get tired before a Flamini or Boateng that have played every last 3 days.

Also Ambro is not a box-to-box, he makes an @ss out of himself trying to play that. He's a holding DM, play him there FFS.

If Pirlo is really out, play Dinho or Seedorf behind the strikers. As long as that midfield 3 is strong, energetic and keeps control of the midfield we won't have problems no matter who plays as the AM

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 11 2010, 11:54 AM

Well box-to-box is the wrong term. I meant someone who stays in and around to congest the mid-field area. Block passing lanes as well as who can get the ball and make a decent pass. Also Ambro's runs into the box are pretty good.

Rino can just stay and watch Sneijder and Coutinho.

Posted by: ForzaMaldini Nov 11 2010, 11:58 AM

Maicon is injured. Samuel as well. If Benitez choses for this lineup im gonna laugh SO hard!:


Cambiasso and Sneijder probebly will make the match. To bad, because their midfield is **** without those two. And I hope Zambrotta will return in time and leave Abate on the bench. Abate will not do well against Eto'o.

The 4-3-1-2 formation suits Milan very well. There is the right balance in this lineup. It's a formation where everyone gets the best out of himself (like Seedorf and Pato).
Abbiati has a bad run, leave him out!

I hope to see:


Any news on Pato or Pippo btw?

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 11 2010, 12:11 PM

Totally cannot imagine going up against Inter without the fire of Rino and the steel of Ambro in there. By all means take Rino out in the 60th...but he needs to be there in the beginning.

And damn it...why Pippo..why??!!!!!! Pippo-Ibra with Robinho playing Energizer bunny is quickly becoming my attack of choice.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 11 2010, 01:11 PM

Look how just few days ago we all tried to play it fair and spoke about the poor Inter with so many injuries. And now - we have the same problems.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 11 2010, 01:16 PM

Good. Will make it a lot sweeter if we crush them. And a lot less bitter if they crush us.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Nov 11 2010, 02:15 PM

Oh finally the ronaldinho debate finished and we are finally the top of the board with a great game to come. It is our first set ball (to early to mention match balls) and if we win we put them in even bigger trouble so the win is a 10 points play. About the lineup Binho and Ibra work really well and they shoved it a lot of time so i they will start for shure. About the midfield , Boa and Flamini should be untouchable like Ambro and pirlo but those are maybe too much because i think R80 will start. He crushed them once, he will do it again, so i think it would be a Ambro, Pirlo, Boa with R80 upfront (I already know all the opinions). For the defense i would prefer Zambro over Abate for the derby and other defenders that everyone want : So Zambro Nesta Thiago Antonini. And the final word I would really wanted to see Amelia between the post but this is pretty much impossible. We NEED the win so much.

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 02:26 PM

But you said:

Or who is 'he'? I thought you meant Maicon there, since Antonini is and never has been world class. Now I'm really confused. Also: if you read my post clearly I said exactly the opposite from what you seem to have thought you read.

Also, I forgot that Maicon won't even play. Anyway, why don't you think Abate isn't good enough for this kind of game? He is doing good like you said, including against REAL MADRID's Cristiano Ronaldo. While Antonini has been poor this season with a lot of defensive liablities. Really... you are living, once again, in the past. Zambrotta needs to play, yes, agreed there, but instead of Antonini.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 11 2010, 02:27 PM

If we win this 6-pointer I say we will have completed like 20% of the road to the Scudetto.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 11 2010, 02:27 PM

Oddo is still unavaible?

I'd rather see the Antonini-Zamborghini combo as well.

Posted by: samira Nov 11 2010, 03:33 PM

We don't win an away derby since February 27, 2005..
I hope that will change !

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2010, 03:42 PM

Probable starting line-ups from Sportmediaset:

Inter (4-2-3-1): Julio Cesar; Santon, Lucio, Cordoba, Chivu; Zanetti, Stankovic; Sneijder, Eto'o, Pandev; Milito.

Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Thiago Silva, Nesta, Antonini; Flamini, Ambrosini, Gattuso; Seedorf; Robinho, Ibrahimovic.

Pato and Inzaghi won't be making it for sure, and it looks like Pirlo will be out as well. That said, our line-up looks good. But god, do we really have to play Gattuso? What does Allegri really see in this guy? We need at least a box-to-box in that midfield to support the attacking manoeuvre, and if you take off Boateng, we'd be stuck with Gattuso and Flamini to do that, who are both holding midfielders. Really, really bad choice. Our midfield was great against a tough side as Palermo, there's no need to change it FFS!!!

Regarding Inter, apart from the sure absences of Samuel and Maicon, Cambiasso shouldn't be making either, like Thiago Motta, Mariga and Muntari.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 03:54 PM

Has Zambrotta become third choice or isn't he fully fit?

Even though both Pirlo and Pato (for sure the latter) won't play, I'm still sort of confident. Seedorf and Ambrosini seem to be good backups for the positions Pirlo can play, and of course thankfully no Ronaldinho. Though, it really sucks that Pato is out for a decent time. Also one of our few forward backups (Pippo) is out for a long time, also not helping our case. With Zlatan and Robinho as our only forwards available our biggest issue might be finishing.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 05:34 PM

Why should we play Rino?? Boateng, Flamni and Ambro are all beter options. If Rino does play he will be a problem for us.


If Dinho or Seedorf play then the midfield 3 behind them cannot contain Pirlo. Imo Seedorf and Dinho are both players I would avoid for this type of game. But since Pirlo is most likely out, one of them we start. Now I'm of the oppinion that as long as that midfield 3 is solid ie Boateng, Flamini and Ambro, then the AM choice won't really make that much difference since he won't have to work that hard , just keep his position close to the others


I was referring to Maicon. Anyway, I don't understand how we've jumbled it up so much


Imo that midfield will be our undoing. Rino, Ambro, Flamini? Come on! Rino cannot play. Just like against Bari, that midfield would struggle to hold the ball for longer then a couple of seconds, also how Allegri can justify playing Rino over any of those other 3 I'll never know!

Also if you're going to play Seedorf then he's going to need some help when pushing up, that's where boateng comes in. Rino will make a fool out of himself trying to move the ball forward, and chasing Sneijder or Eto'o down with no positive outcome. Seedorf I'm a bit worried about in terms of how long he'll last. Anyways if it's not working Dnho can come off the bench.

My point is, the attacking 3 doesn't matter, as long as Allegri gets that midfield 3 right, which just has to be Flamini, Ambro, Boateng. If he gets that right then the rest of the team will benefit. Especially the AM and Ibra and Robs

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 11 2010, 06:27 PM

Not Rino, all I think of regarding him and Inter is that stupid red card and penalty given away.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 06:39 PM

Is that all you can think of? Djee, no wonder. There is a huge difference between that Rino and current Rino.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 07:10 PM

Not that much of a difference... Rino now, is not even part of the shadow of his former self. Imo he should do himself a favour and not tarnish his reputation by making a fool out of himself in such games

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 07:21 PM

LOL, what? Not much of a difference?

1: it's pointless to compare players to what they have been, what's important is how they are now, and Gattuso is much better than he was last season. He went from our worst midfielder to one of our best midfielders. Though, we seem to have many good midfielders, it's hard to pick.

It's not like other midfielders in our current squad are as good as that famous former Rino you're talking about.

2: Gattuso did make a fool out of himself last season, but this season is different. Gattuso is far from making a fool out of himself this season, and I don't see why he would coming weekend. When it comes to defensive duties Gattuso is our best bet (when it comes to our midfielders) which is very important against a side like Inter, so Gattuso is no problem (seriously guys), but someone who you should consider to start vs Inter. Of course feel free to conclude that it's better to start with Flamini, Ambrosini, Seedorf and Boateng (assuming Pirlo can't start) as our midfielders, because I see the reasons why to start them over Gattuso, but I also see the reasons why to start Gattuso over other midfielders we got. Some of you guys are really too harsh on Gattuso.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 07:34 PM

1. It is pointless. But this Rino you're talking about is not that good. Which seriously pains me to say. The man chases shadows for practically 90 minutes straight. Lets mediocre players nutmeg him, etc. This Rino is not good enough to be a starter for us, and certainly not one of the best mid we have. Flamini, Boateng and Ambro are all better choices, for hundreds of reasons. Aside from you and Wacko Jacko, no one wants Rino to be starting, we saw what happened against Real, for all his heart and passion, Real kept slicing our midfield like hot knife through butter, simply because Rino couldn't keep up and do his job.

2. Rno made a fool out of himself this season as well in the big games. You talk and talk about not wanting Dinho anywhere near the pitch in the big games, but I really don't understand how you would want Rino playing in such games, and imo the DM poisition is a far more crucial position then the AM. Rino losing the ball in a bad area, or him letting someone like Sneijder or C.Ron run through him (which he did) and we've got serious problems

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 07:38 PM

Of course you don't mention about Gattuso winning the ball so often, etc. And hello? If one player is a problem it's Ronaldinho. I understand you prefer others over Gattuso, but to say he's not good enough? Come on...

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 07:50 PM

The number of times Rino won the ball, I can count on one hand. How is that good enough for the DM? Pirlo probably won more balls then him!! If you see Dinho as a problem, an attacker, then I seriously don't understand how you wouldn't view Rino as a problem. He plays in one of the most crucial positions. Dinho plays like cr@p? We have trouble scoring. Rino plays like cr@p? We conceed... I'd rather not score then conceed if it really came down to a choice. Just for the record, I think both are problematic in top games (Dinho and Rino, Seedorf as well, but we have our backs to the walls with Pirlo and Pato out If it were up to me non of those 3 would be playing in the Inter match). Inter fans are hoping for Rino to play, that should be enough to convince you

You were singing Boateng's praises just a couple of weeks ago, he's been doing great and really gives us that final ingredient we were missing in midfield. Rino when compared to Flamini and Ambro, has no business being on that pitch, unless both are injured. If you go back through threads you will see the countless arguments me and kurt had about Rino, but sadly Rino is no longer good enough to be a starter for us. Especially when we have such better options to play instead of him. Also Rino vs Boateng shouldn't really come into this, since both are completely different players.

Posted by: servbot Nov 11 2010, 07:59 PM

I would prefer Gattuso to start over Boateng in this match. It's going to sound strange since Gattuso got the red card last year, but I think Boateng might be a little too reckless in a match of this pressure, and much more of a red card threat. I say let the experienced Gattuso bring it in the first half and have Boateng come in when Gattuso runs out of gas, at a point where he's seen the match/atmosphere/tempo from the sideline and hopefully is able to get in the flow of it easier than at start.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 07:59 PM

First of all, it's so annoying I only see you reading this topic after you posted, that's annoying when it comes to editing my posts. I edited the Boateng part away, because indeed he has been good, though Gattuso has been even better IMO (and I prefer Flamini over Prince, at least for now), but I agree they are different players. That's also a reason why I edited it away.

Huge difference is that Dinho plays cr@p all the time, while Rino does rarely (this season), and when Ronaldinho plays cr@p it causes A WHOLE LOT more than just us having trouble scoring. In fact, playing Dinho makes our whole team, mainly our midfield, and therefore also our attack, play like cr@p.

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It doesn't sound strange at all. Those are very good reasons I have been thinking about also.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 08:16 PM

So you want a Rino, Ambro, Flamini 3 man mid against Inter? Uneccaptable imo. That midfield won't be able to control the tempo, simply because non of them are ball players, all are destroyers. Which would be a big problem, against BARI we conceeded twice while playing those 3, simply because we had no control over the tempo of the game, against Palermo we had complete control simply because of the midfield3 we had in place and only conceeded because of Abbiati


It's not my problem that you're slow


Imo that problem was so far from Dinho/Seedorf/Robinho related. Before when we had that Pirlo, Boateng, Rino midfield we played every option at AM, never really worked, why? Not because of Seedorf, Dinho or Robinho. It was precisely because of the 3 behind them. Seedorf barely ran against Palermo, but he looked good, why when before he looked like cr@p? because those 3 behind him quickly won the ball, covered him, moved the ball quickly to his feet and Boateng and Flamini were always available to him when he ran forward. All of this is something we didn't see when we had Pirlo, Rino and Boateng. You had Pirlo defending, Rino doing god knows what and Boa running like a headless chicken all over the place. Thus the AM, no matter who that is would find it tough, Dinho/Seedorf/Robinho dropping behind the circle to try and get a touch? Never going to work. Imo it wasn't the players but the system.

Rino is good for the smaller games, I have no trouble with it if Allegi wants to rest someone, but please for the love of everything pure in this world, don't play him against Inter!! I want to win this so bad like you wouldn't believe!! I know some Inter fans that are going to the San Siro, I want them to come back disappointed and miserable

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 11 2010, 08:28 PM

Agreed, great post, han. Great post.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 08:31 PM

Don't think I ever read that from you

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 11 2010, 08:39 PM

The midfield 3 from last night needs to start again, they were solid, mobile and did control most of the game. Rino can be back up.

Also i feel Amelia should be given a start, Abbiati is very shaky just now. I am losing confidence in him game by game.

Ibra Robbie upfront. Pato and Pippo out, saddens me a lot but it will be interesting to see which forwards come onto the bench.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Nov 11 2010, 08:48 PM

Just because the forth midfielder or the AM wont have a hard work Roni should start because whenever he started he made few assists but never really helped to defend but in the attack he is still good. And pirlo and Roni can apsolutelly play together but pirlo should play the DM then and not always put everything on dinhos shoulders because lets be honest pirlo never defend so well because he likes to play with the ball in his feet , so this isnt just ronis problems this is a little bit deeper. Bah, simply it is not important who plays because they are all big players but they just have to give everything on the pitch and the result will come for sure, i just hate watching Pirlo and Dinho and Seedorf walking in the moment the teams are pressing us, or even better when they have the ball and those three just watching, this is my only problem with them, for other things, they are unique.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 11 2010, 09:09 PM

In the big games only one of Dinho. Seedorf or Pirlo can play imo. And the obvious choice there is Pirlo.

For smaller games where the tempo is really set by us, and the opposing teams park the bus then I'm ok with Pirlo replacing Boateng in midfield and Dinho or Seedorf playing the AM position, but for such big games, we need to have that muscle as well as energy and stamina in midfield. Thus it shouldn't contain Pirlo. Pirlo should be up relieved of defensive duties and only focuses on creating. While the midfield 3 work hard around him

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Nov 12 2010, 01:02 AM

I totally disagree, we should understand him while he is not defending but we are killing Seedorf and Roni while they are not defending and they shouldnt play because pirlo isnt defending. I think he would defend if Mou would coach him. We have double criteria here, we cant justify pirlo for the same thing we kill Roni and Seedorf. I agree Pirlo should play but i dont understand the thinking, why he shouldnt defend? He is a midfielder, creative but he still needs to cover the player.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 12 2010, 01:56 AM

Pirlo defends all the time. Especially when Gattuso plays and leaves him all alone at the back because he goes on horrible and futile runs. He shouldnt have to defend because we have four other midfielders who are more physically capable when they do what they are supposed to.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Nov 12 2010, 03:02 AM

LOL i love it. it's soooo true. Gattuso should have retired after 2007... this is just overkill

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 12 2010, 06:56 AM

Rino will not be playing in the usual box to box role. He will be playing as a pure DM who doesn't deviate more than 10 yards from the centre circle.

I'm pretty confident it will work. In the last match KPB was the one person who looked like upsetting the balance when we were defending, simply because he was nowhere to be seen. I keep wondering why people see him running like mad and thinking he's got great energy..when the fact is he's doing it to cover the spaces left over.

In any case, it's a toss up for me between Flamini and KPB. One of them will start from the bench.


-------------DEFENCE-----------------
---------------Rino--------------------
-----Ambro----------Flam/KPB-------
-------------Zee/R80------------------
--------------------------Robinho-------
------------Ibra-------------------------


If Pirlo is fit, I'd play him and Robinho/R80 in a 4-3-2-1 formation...with Ibra as sole striker. Robinho will definitely need to drop deep in our match.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 12 2010, 08:31 AM

at at rino place for me and flamini and kpb the remaining 2 in midfield.... then i think ibra should play behind the main stiker but if it is robinho not too sure bcoz robinho has been terrible with finishing..

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 12 2010, 11:04 AM

What main striker? It turns out Robinho and Ibra are the only strikers we have left. Pato and Pippo are out.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 12 2010, 11:10 AM

yea for this match ibra should play closer to goal but in general i think he should be behind the other stiker. had robinho not been missing those stitter i would have played him ahead of ira but we cant afford to miss any of face to face chances against inter

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 12 2010, 12:52 PM

Robinho's finishing is terrible these days. so is Ibra's. if there's anyone who can score for us, it's Ambro.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 12 2010, 01:50 PM

How is it a toss up Jack? Rino has been average at best while Flamini in my eyes has more then done enough to steel Rino's place in the line-up. Also a 3 man midfield with 3 DMs should never happen, just too much destroyers, and no one who can really play the ball around, control the tempo etc. KPB is the final missing piece to that.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 12 2010, 02:27 PM

Flamini indeed has been doing very well, while Boateng not so much lately. Not saying he has done bad, but others have done better. What you guys want from Boateng, Flamini is doing it better. So Flamini needs to play, while Boateng, not necessary. I prefer Gattuso, he and Flamini are beasts, I like that against Inter. Since we have no Pirlo, it has to be Ambrosini in his position, and Seedorf as AM. So my preference goes to Seedorf in front of Flamini, Ambrosini and Gattuso(or MAYBE Boateng - both options are fine to me, as long no Dinho starts of course).

Posted by: han2503 Nov 12 2010, 04:35 PM

No, I'm sorry but that midfield wouldn't do, 3 DMs?? It would make our play in the midfield stagnant, we won't be able to hold possession just like against Bari or control the tempo of the game, and Seedorf will need a lot more help in the attacking department, Boateng can push up better then anyone. 3 DMs is just ridiculous, normal teams play 1 and you want to play 3?

Ambro as the holding mid with Flamini sweeping up and Boateng being that someone that drives the midfield forward and helps Seedorf out. Seedorf won't be able to drop back and try to retrieve the ball because the ones behind him are unable to give it to him.

Flamini, Ambro, Rino is over kill and jst plain unnacessary

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 05:21 PM

Han is exactly right, guys. With Ambro, Rino and Flamini, you have three abile but static DMs. Creativity gets reduced to nothing, and moreover, we'll be constantly seeing Gattuso in Inter's defensive midfield, which is equal to .

And that's where you're wrong Jack. Rino *will* be playing as box-to-box. If you haven't yet noticed, in Allegri's playing style, the two side midfielders attack and defend at the same time. And while Flamini is very capable of playing such a role, Gattuso can't do it for the love of god. If I was ever to play Gattuso, I'd relegate him in front of the defense and leave to Ambro the offensive/defensive duties, because he's much more capable of doing it than Rino.

That said, I'd never play Gattuso, and play the same trio of Palermo against Inter. Like I've already mentioned, Boateng and Flamini complement our midfield perfectly. There is no need to bench any of them, especially not in favor of a half-baked cookie as Gattuso.

Posted by: Coldest Nov 12 2010, 08:14 PM

Guys, what about Dinho ?? We have to give him a chance.

Posted by: William405 Nov 12 2010, 08:56 PM

Well,We'll see what happens.I have a feeling Allegri will give him a chance to start in the derby,and if he doesn't do well then Seedorf can come in and fill his place.I want him to play of course,because without him,the match is just not the same.But,if it hinders the team's balance then ok :S

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 09:00 PM

Who?

Dinho's already prepared his bags for LA.

Posted by: Coldest Nov 12 2010, 09:43 PM

I don't think Silvio will let him away that easily, do you ?

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 09:45 PM

Oh, he will, you'll see that. After all, I don't think Silvio is willing to pay €8 million every season to someone who warms the bench, do you?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 12 2010, 09:58 PM

Seedorf deserves his spot, if things aren't going well with him Dinho can always come in. At X-Off, until the summer Dinho and Seedorf are our only options at AM and Seedorf isn't going to play every 3 days, and imo both are at the same level. So let's not start jumping to conclusions

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 10:08 PM

Oh my!!! Is this really han, or did some turtle-esque demon possess his spirit?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 12 2010, 10:15 PM

Come on! I'm going on what I see, when I defend Dinho it's only because what I see from you strikes me as biased in comparison to his performances and the factors sarrounding it.

Seedorf played a great game against Palermo, I attribute this mostly to the midfield 3 behind him, which always supported him, won the ball quickly and gave it to his feet and he didn't really have to work that much. Imo Dinho given that kind of support would probably play it better then Seedorf since he's a far more creative player. BUT having said that as long as Seedorf keeps playing this way then Dinho has no right to take back the spot. The moment Seedorf starts playing badly the Dinho can step in. The position is there for both of them to fight for, competition for places is great before neither of these players who have a tendency to get lazy and rest on their laurels had to fight for their position, they were automatic picks, which was the problem. Now whoever want to play has to fight for the slot.

Also if it's not working against Inter, Dinho can come in.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 10:27 PM

But I remember you complaining of how Seedorf disappeared after the 70' mark and we should play Pirlo instead of him etc.

I too think Seedorf has been great in these last two games, and that's probably to the fact that he's been well supported by our strong midfield. Who knows, maybe this will last more than just 2-3 games. Hopefully.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 12 2010, 10:36 PM

Well he did... I still think Pirlo should start ahead of both him and Dinho in these types of high tempo games, but Pirlo is out so...

Seedorf was trying to walk the game after a certain point, he was dead tired, even after not having to do all that much hard work because of that midfield behind him, but getting tired in the 2nd half does not dether from the contribution.

Like I said, he's not going to be able to play every 3 days, against the smaller teams Pirlo can move into the midfield 3 and Dihno and Seedorf fight for that position (especially since smaller teams like to park the bus so that extra hard man in the midfield won't reallt be necassary). But like I said as long as Seedorf does well he can keep the position, if he's not Dinho can come in and if he also does well he can keep the position until he underperforms. Healthy competition for places is what we need in this team. Players being happy to jog around in one match simply because they are assured of playing the next just cannot continue anymore.

Dinho last season only started to play well after he was benched. Now Seedorf was benched for a few games, he was picked and he's started to play well again. That midfield 3 allows for the slow AM, which is why I think we can go through this season and cover that hole at AM without much difficuilty

Posted by: William405 Nov 12 2010, 10:36 PM

Pirlo's not available,we don't have any choice other than Seedorf.Although,Allegri may have been saving Dinho for this match,who knows.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 12 2010, 10:39 PM

Playing Dinho now wouldn't really be fair to Seedorf. If he's having trouble in the game, then by all means throw Dinho in, but until then Seedorf should and will most likely keep his position

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 11:25 PM

I just wish Allegri would play Boateng instead of Gattuso. KPB gives me a lot of assurance, both from a tactical and technical point of view. I think he should always be a starter along with Flamini. Ambro and Rino are too old to be playing on a constant basis. When will we finally learn to bench old guys?

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 12 2010, 11:48 PM

Updates on Inter's line-up:

4-3-1-2: Julio Cesar; Cordoba, Lucio, Materazzi, Chivu; Stankovic, Zanetti, Obi, Sneijder; Eto'o, Milito.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/SerieA/Inter/12-11-2010/inter-si-affida-materazzi-711794521303.shtml

Posted by: pacang Nov 13 2010, 12:30 AM

the menace? that's just great.. provoking will be his mission on the field..

Posted by: ForzaMaldini Nov 13 2010, 01:23 AM

Haha, Matterazzi!! Thought we might miss Pato and Pippo for this match, but its all oke now. Keep it up Benitez!

Posted by: MizNelson Nov 13 2010, 06:54 AM

Even if it's his pet project?

Posted by: Coldest Nov 13 2010, 12:48 PM

I think our attack should be:

------------------------Ibra-----------------
-----------------Dinho------Binho----------

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 01:45 PM

No. Then you would make the same mistake Milan have been making over and over again against especially Inter. We need to play with four midfielders. Our attack should be Zlatan with Robinho, and Seedorf as AM (Pirlo won't start, right?). FFS I want Milan to be balanced and not getting humilated against Inter for a change.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 02:57 PM

You want us to be balanced yet you're ok with playing Rino, Flamini, Ambro in the same mid?

Also, coldest's line-up would be a xmas tree formation, thus a 5 man midfield with Zlatan as the single point of focus in attack

For me, as long as we play Flamini, Boateng and Ambo in midfield, we'll be balanced. That's all I'm hoping for

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 03:04 PM

You really think a team existing of Flamini, Boateng, Ambrosini, Ronaldinho, Robinho and Ibrahimovic will be balanced against Inter?

A 5 man midfield? Ronaldinho? Nah...

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 03:51 PM

The midfield 3 is what counts, Seedorf barely moved a muscle when he didn't have the ball against Palermo, he didn't track back, didn't close anyone down etc, yet he looked good, why? The 3 behind him covered him and relieved him of doing that work.

Either way, a 4-3-2-1 wouldn't be a bad idea, But like I said yesterday, the midfield and attack that went out against Palermo (aside from Pato) should get to keep their place, simply because they deserve it, if it's not working Dinho can come off the bench, Seedorf can be moved back, etc, we have options if we're struggling that's the important thing.

But like I said the chosen attacking trio doesn't matter to me as long at the midfield 3 in the one thatplayed against Palermo, because those hold the key to the balance and not who plays at AM or where Robinho plays.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 04:02 PM

I disagree. The AM counts ALSO, and a lot. And Seedorf does more than Ronaldinho in our midfield. You just don't notice it.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 04:33 PM

Did you really watch the Palermo game?? I'm not even talking about Dinho, don't bring him into this. I'm talking about the midfield 3, all Seedorf had to do was to stay close to them so that he was always available for the pass. He didn't really defend or close anyone down, and imo he did the right thing, because an AM shouldn't be trying to close anyone down or track back unless absolutely necassary, he shouldn't be wasting away behind the center circle trying to chase down the ball because the players behind him are not doing their jobs!

Did you ever see Rui Costa or Kaka track back or close anyone down under Carlo? No, simply becayse they had a top midfield behind them who did their jobs right. Now we can have the same thing. No matter who the AM is, you're making this into a Dinho thing when it has nothing to do with him. Be happy for once that we have a system in midfield that actually works, yes we play a 4-3-1-2 but for all intents and purposes it's 3 midfielders and 3 attackers, and what's really important is to have a balance in that midfield, if not it could get easily over run

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 04:52 PM

I'm happy with that, yes. And I believe that is made possible by benching Ronaldinho. I disagree about it being 3 mids, and 3 attackers. It would have been w/Dinho, but w/Seedorf it's w/4 midfielders.


Well, that's one thing of the many Seedorf does better than Dinho which is very important (key).

I'm not saying Seedorf does a lot of those other stuff, but more than Dinho. The way Seedorf plays at AM is better for the team than the way Dinho plays at AM. That's for sure, and it affects the whole team.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 13 2010, 05:09 PM

I disagree !

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 06:20 PM

With whom?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 06:24 PM

If Dinho or even Robinho are given such instructions then they'll do the same, it has nothing to do with Seedorf. For example, against Real we were playing a clear 4-3-3 at the start, if Allegri gave Dinho those instructions then he'll follow them. If Allegri tells Seedorf to stay close to the other mids so he's available then he'll do just that. It has nothing to do with the player himself, but with the system a coach deploys

Also, name one occasion where Seedorf actually tried to close Palermo down in midfield. There wasn't and imo for an AM there shouldn't be any of these occasions unless we have our backs to the walls. Wanting Seedorf or Dinho to track back, and do grunt work in the midfield just doesn't make any sense, they should do what Seedorf did, which is to make himself available for the midfield when we have the ball

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 13 2010, 07:06 PM

With this match

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 13 2010, 07:21 PM

Again...talking about Milan...ooops, Ronaldinho that is.

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 13 2010, 07:47 PM

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130696

forgot source

Pirlo available, good but no other strikers called up?!?! Not even one incase of a nightmare scenario? Seems a bit short sighted, but fingers crossed for tomorrow.

(I would have threw in Verdi or Beretta if they are fit and available).

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 07:49 PM

Allegri rather calls up 9 defenders than a 3rd forward.

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Nov 13 2010, 07:55 PM

x2, the greatest player ever !!! He will decide the derby and than everyone will be smart again and find something he didnt do well!

Posted by: RinoIlCapitano Nov 13 2010, 07:56 PM

ops, i forgot, he will decide the derby AGAIN!

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 13 2010, 07:57 PM

You really should stop seeing this from a fanboy point of view and realize that playing Ronaldinho right now would do no good to our game.

Han, no matter how you see it, Seedorf is more a midfielder than Ronaldinho will ever be. The team will always be more balanced and compact when he's playing than when Dinho's playing. And I don't agree that he doesn't backtrack at all. He knows how to position himself when we're defending.

And I'm really not trying to make this into another anti-Ronaldinho argument, I'm just saying what I rationally believe.

Anyway, it looks like we'll be playing Gattuso--Pirlo--Ambrosini tomorrow. Not good.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 08:20 PM

Well I don't want to get into it again so let's all agree to disagree

Gazzetta have put up a xmas tree as the propable line-up, with Dinho and Seedorf behind Ibra, which imo is a big problem, Seedorf OR Dinho would be ok, but please not both at the same time.

And if Allegri has any shread of decency left in him and isn't completely stupid, then he won't drop Flamini in favour of Gattuso

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 13 2010, 08:27 PM

La Gazzetta are never reliable in predicting line-ups. Always use Sportmediaset.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/articoli/articolo15197.shtml

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 09:15 PM

Well that's pretty much the same thing only they have Robinho instead of Dinho. I'm more p!ssed off at the fact that Allegri will most likely bench Flamini for Rino!!

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 13 2010, 09:19 PM

And Zambrotta for Abate.

I agree about Flamini and Gattuso, but it looks like Rino will always be a starter this season, so might as well put our hearts in peace.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 13 2010, 09:38 PM

That's actually a good thing.

As for Rino, there is no justifiable answer as to why Rino could take Flamini's place in that midfield. I still think that Pirlo should be moved up and Boateng getting the other slot in that midfield. With that formation I can see Pirlo ending up doing the grunt work while Ambro and Rino are running like headless chickens playing as box-to-box. And that would mean no one to support Seedorf as well.

The midfield 3 that played against Palermo was flawless, Allegri changing it up is just ridiculous. If Pirlo is available play him instead of Seedorf and be done with it. No need to fix something that is not broken

Posted by: William405 Nov 13 2010, 09:50 PM

Seems like the attack will be formed of Ibra,Ronaldinho as a support striker.Has he ever played in that position?Allegri says he can play as a striker anyway,and Seedorf or Pirlo will be playing in the trequartista postion.I don't know about the midfeild though,and it's pretty obvious what the defense will be formed of.

Source:http://www.football-italia.net/nov13m.html

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 10:43 PM

Abate is only our best preforming full back nowadays, oh well...

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 13 2010, 10:50 PM

Didn't you read what I just wrote? Sportmediaset is the most reliable source for predicting line-ups. The fact you're willing to trust a foreign website more is even worse.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 13 2010, 11:28 PM

I don't get it, based on what?

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 13 2010, 11:38 PM

Based on this season / the last few matches. He played well vs Real Madrid and Palermo. When Antonini played this season, he didn't play well. Zambrotta and Abate are IMO our best full backs at the moment.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 14 2010, 12:17 AM

I still prefer Zambro-Antonini. Abate was good against CR, but...I still don't think he defends good.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 14 2010, 01:01 AM

You're still living in 2009-2010. Comparing last and this season Abate became obvious better and Antonini has been preforming way worse.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 14 2010, 01:13 AM

No I'm not, I just don't get that easily impressed. Everyone can make a few good matches now and then. And that's what Abate made - a few solid performances, nothing more nothing less.

But the debate on side, Antonini isn't that much better either. I'm in anticipation to see how fast Oddo can recuperate and if Janku is still any good. At least until January.

Posted by: Protagonist Nov 14 2010, 08:10 AM

Mouth watering match up. The derby is apon us, and we have to take this chance to thump them with no less than two goals and a clean sheet!

Serie A has finally changed colors, and it is no longer blue & black; it is a very balances championship and we need to keep hauling in the points. If we are stalled for two or three games (derby included), we might slide down the table relatively fast, considering the pace set by Lazio and the likes.

I'm optomistic given we have topped the table, however that does not necessarily mean we have done a good job. It just means we have outdone our peers to date in Serie A. However, Allegri has much to prove, as a defeat to Inter could cosolidate the fact that he has been beaten by the big boys in Italy and Europe (RM, Juve, and now Inter).


I would like to believe that Ronaldinho will be the deciding factor going into this game; as he is the outlet we need to break a slightly leaky Inter defense.

I would like to highlight that Inter might opt of a 4-2-3-1 formation, something that would cause us trouble both in midfield and in defense. I would welcome a Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambrosini midfield three, with Seedorf and Ronaldinho as AM, and Zlatan to spearhead.

With that said, I had read several people doubting Gattuso's ability to be at 100%, but this is the derby and there is no margin for error. Moreover, he has provin to-date this season that is capable and worthy of a starting spot. In addition, experience is not to be overlooked, as we are facing a very creative midfield from Inter which has been devistating last season.

However, I have grown fond of KPB, and would find his inclusion better in the second half, to bring more steam into the team once Benitez has done a tactical reshuffling of his side.

Flamini is an obvious outlet, however I don't feel he is the right man to start ahead of the midfield three stated above.


Milan 3-1 Inter

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:21 AM

regarding all of the debates in this thread thus far: the force is strong with han.

1. Dinho and Seedorf in the lineup together = - one or the other please.

2. IMO, Seedorf was an attacker against Palermo, he spent most of his time either in the opposition half, or very close to the center circle. to me, that's an attacker. hence we played three in midfield, three in attack. Either Dinho or Seedorf can do that job, competition between the two of them is good, Seedorf has earned it for the time being.

I'm just deathly afraid that we'll see all 3 slow pokes Pirlo, Dorf, and Dinho. If we do, F*** Allegri. Hopefully he know better.

3. If we change up the KPB, Flamini, Ambro midfield....Vafancullo Allegri.

If we play...

Zambro/Abate (either one) - TS3 - Nesta - Luca
-------------------Blond Angel-----------------------
-----------Mad Dog------------Ghetto Kid-----------
--------------Pirlo/Dorf/Dinho (pick ONE)----------
-----------------------------Robson De Souza------
-----------------That Tall Bitchy Bloke -------------

...we will win. if we don't play like that, we may draw or lose a game that (especially with Inter's injuries) we truly can win. If we lose or draw with this lineup, I'll credit inter. If we lose or draw with some other lineup, I'll blame Max.

I.CAN'T.WAIT.

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:21 AM

duuude. I'd rather watch paint dry than see Pirlo, Dinho, and Seedorf in the same lineup. it's a recipe for never crossing our own half!

I agree that there's little margin for error, but Rino is equally as error-prone as the next option...

Oh yeah. can I just say that as excited as I am for this match, and as much as I think we can and will win, I have no shame in saying: An attack of Sneijder, Eto'o, and Milito scares me. Eto'o is a phenomenon, and is in a really special run of form. Milito scares me no matter what his form, cuz his class is permanent. Hopefully Sneijder isn't quite 100%. When facing a world class attack like that, it doesn't quite matter how well we play there's always the possibility of something scary happening at any second...

...again, no margin for error.

Posted by: William405 Nov 14 2010, 09:07 AM

m8,it was interview with Allegri.Sup,anyone excited for derby today ;p

Also,Vnata: Eto,Milito and Sneijder ain't got nothing on Nesta+Thiago Silva.

Posted by: Coldest Nov 14 2010, 12:23 PM

If Dinho starts along with Robinho, you'll see Samba tonight....

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 14 2010, 12:46 PM

I'd be thrilled if I could share the same optimism with you...

Posted by: Coldest Nov 14 2010, 12:51 PM

You have to be optimistic.... Actually, being realistic sucks.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 14 2010, 03:02 PM

Being optimistic means hoping Ronaldinho won't play.

Posted by: vahid Nov 14 2010, 07:41 PM

INTER: Castellazzi; Cordoba, Lucio, Materazzi, Chivu; Zanetti, Stankovic, Obi; Sneijder; Eto'o, Milito.
MILAN: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Flamini; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho.

acmilan.com

Oh and Materazzi is there,i missed him

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 07:46 PM

this may work. hopefully KPB will be a sub. i actually like the lack of antonini

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 07:46 PM

What is Allegri thinking playing that midfield??? Terrible decision! We won't be able to dictate play.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 07:46 PM

Great, Stankovic is playing, how far out will he score from today?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 07:49 PM

May being the operative word. That midfield won't be able to control the game, we won't be able to dictate the tempo or even keep possession for an extended period of time.

The problem with waiting it out for Allegri to make a sub is that he waits too long. So by the time he wakes up it will most likely be all for nothing.

Rino has no business being on that pitch.

Posted by: chrismcb Nov 14 2010, 07:51 PM

Does anybody have a site that is streaming the match?

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:00 PM

well I completely agree. I'm already resigned to the fact that Allegri sucks. At least Flamini is there. but lack of KPB could cost us a result in this match.

this lineup prlly wont work, cuz Rino will be our Box-to-box, and everytime our attack goes through him, we'll give the ball away. I hate thinking about it already now...

it's frustrating, but what can we do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:01 PM

the line up would be great if he would just drop gattuso for KPB. if i have to watch gattuso pathetically attempt to act as a box to box all game i may start breaking things

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:02 PM

Absolutely nothing! If we lose tonight he should get the sack. Every big test he's had he's messed up, and all those imo are 80% his fault due to the decisions he makes

Posted by: William405 Nov 14 2010, 08:03 PM

OMYOMY,Gattuso will play as a box to box midfeilder,fff.

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:03 PM

yup. i want Hiddink!

Posted by: MizNelson Nov 14 2010, 08:05 PM

From what I've heard in the past, Hiddink avoids Italy like the plague, and I can't say I blame him.

Meh. A lot of one-upsmanship, maybe, but that's about it.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:06 PM

we should make a drinking game...everyone drinks each time gattuso and abate play a 1-2 that goes no where...if im shitfaced it might be bearable

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:06 PM

if Rino is the shield in front of our defense, and Ambro is the box-to-box, that'd be slightly better. but it still is not the strongest formula for our midfield possible, out of all of the possible midfield selections.

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 08:06 PM

www.bet365.com - free registration required, dont know if it works outside UK, soz man.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:09 PM

It works

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 14 2010, 08:10 PM

Why? What happened?

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 08:11 PM

Cool, ta Han

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:14 PM

+2. can't blame him either. and dinho and binho is more style than substance.



it's 11:15 am in california. i'll have myself in a stupor before lunch time.
















lets do it

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 08:18 PM

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:24 PM

That line-up has put me on edge...

Posted by: William405 Nov 14 2010, 08:26 PM

Lol,What did you expect?We all knew what was going to happen...

Posted by: vnata001 Nov 14 2010, 08:27 PM

honestly. we're all bloody masochists following this team.

Posted by: William405 Nov 14 2010, 08:29 PM

Lol,15minutes to go!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:31 PM

no pirlo nno kpb we are playing 3 DMs can we be more negative

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:31 PM

I expected some common sense from Allegri, but I guess that's too much to ask for


So true...

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:32 PM

haha so true. thank god matterazi is playing. ibra should eat him alive if he gets some service

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 08:41 PM

Or every time Robinho misses a 100% chance and you are saying to yourself: god, even I could score that!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:47 PM

pirlo benced or injured??

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:48 PM

So far so good. Inter already with a couple of mistakes in defense

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:49 PM

Oh Seedorf!! AIM!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 08:49 PM

Poor header from Seedorf.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:50 PM

seedorf could have done better good cross by abate

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:50 PM

Don't think he's 100% fit

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:50 PM

best cross i think ive ever seen from abate haha

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:51 PM

peneltyy

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 08:51 PM

PENALTY!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:51 PM

PENALTYYYY!!!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:51 PM

i love matterazi!!!!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:51 PM

Matrix Of course

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:51 PM

comon ibra

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:52 PM

1-0 yesssss

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:52 PM

IBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 08:52 PM

IBRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:52 PM

IBRAAAAA!!!!

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 08:52 PM

YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:54 PM

Seedorf is so deep!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 08:56 PM

gattuso is the weak link and inter is going to keep running at him

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 08:57 PM

stupid yellow card

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:57 PM

abate yellow card

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 08:57 PM

What is Abate doing? it was unnecessary

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 08:57 PM

All of Inter's build up coming through the right Abate is being left for dead agains Eto'o. Yellow

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 08:59 PM

we are not pressing them

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:00 PM

OHHHHHHH!!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:00 PM

Oh what another chance!!

Our strategy though is sh!t, we're basically relying on the long ball to Ibra

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:03 PM

Oh!! What another chance!!

Ibra practically doinh everything on his own

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:03 PM

OH MY GOD!! ZLATAN IS AWESOME!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:04 PM

Ibra has been very good. id like to see him take a couple shots though

Posted by: Coldest Nov 14 2010, 09:04 PM

Sorry guys, but I cannot understand what you see in Seedorf...

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:05 PM

Rino is being an idiot!!

If Pirlo was on instead of him, we'd be so much better

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:06 PM

Gattuso will get himself sent off tonight SUB HIM

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:06 PM

yellow to rino.... he needs to be careful

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:06 PM

either gattuso or abate need to be subbed at half. maybe both. i dont trust them not to get a second yellow

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:06 PM

Oh Ibra!! Great shot

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:07 PM

nice volley by ibra he is confident

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:07 PM

Rino!!! Stop fouling!!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:08 PM

seedorf has already stopped running....

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:08 PM

Seedorf has to go deep to touch the ball. This is reidiculous!!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:09 PM

Robs goal, offside

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:09 PM

finally robinho finishes but he is off

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:09 PM

BINHO

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 09:09 PM

Robinho went a bit early, close call, but the correct one.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:11 PM

We look really good (*knocking on wood*)

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:12 PM

i disagree. hes just lazy. watch him. flamini and the fullbacks are able to bring it up the wings. if he could run a little and himself available for a pass further up the pitch it would help greatly

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:16 PM

Rino trying to get sent off...

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 09:16 PM

Rino is playing with fire

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:16 PM

OH MY GOD SOMEONE STOP RINO!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:17 PM

i want KPB in for gattuso

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:17 PM

yea we need kpb for rino bcoz he mite blow this for us by getting red

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:17 PM

Balotelli in the stands. he's come to watch his favorite team play

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:19 PM

I think Inter are just making us look that way. We have no decent ball player in that midfield, we're relying on the long ball to Ibra and Seedorf has to drop too deep to get on the ball

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:22 PM

Meh Cambiasso coming on...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:22 PM

cambaisso coming on i really do not like this guy

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:22 PM

Coutinho as well.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:23 PM

Coutinho for Obi, he's going to give us trouble

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:23 PM

coutinho also coming on

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:23 PM

Yeah yeah I wanted to make a post after that and say Inter are **** though.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:24 PM

Inter already look better...

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:25 PM

Yes. we're letting them play. big mistake

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:26 PM

RINO FFS!!!!

He's going to get sent off!!!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:26 PM

f**K off rino

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 09:26 PM

Get Rino off, jesus christ.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:26 PM

seedorf is so slow. and rino is acting retarded. does he really want another yellow?

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:26 PM

**** YOU RINO

If Allegri doesn't sub him in the HT, he's a big idiot

Posted by: MizNelson Nov 14 2010, 09:27 PM

It's becoming more obvious that Rino has nothing left and has to resort to thuggery as compensation.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:27 PM

i think rino should be subbed now bcoz he will be sent of with the nex5t tackle he makes

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:27 PM

Close from Sneijder. Inter now expsing the cr@p decision from Allegri

Posted by: Coldest Nov 14 2010, 09:28 PM

I wonder if Allergri's gonna make any subs at all...

Posted by: Coldest Nov 14 2010, 09:29 PM

Cardoba... What a run.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:29 PM

Cordoba running the length of the pitch and no one so much as tries to put pressure on him

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 09:33 PM

If Allegri wouldn't sub Rino at halftime that will be just plain stupid.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:33 PM

i seriously hope rino is subbed at HT

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 09:35 PM

Good half.

Get Rino off now please.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:35 PM

HT 1-0 lets hope we atleast make one change after the break bcoz otherwise we will end up with 10 men

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 09:35 PM

Phew... it was tense.

If I see Rino coming back to the pitch in the second half, I will have a heart attack. simple as that.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:35 PM

HT and you can bet your @ss Inter are going to come out in the 2nd half fired up! Allegri needs to make a change!, first off Rino needs to egt the **** off he's going to get sent off. Also all service has just stopped for the front players, we're barely crossing the half way line at this point

Posted by: arivanjj Nov 14 2010, 09:35 PM

good start but theres no way we're winning this way if we keep up the pattern.

FORZA MILAN

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 14 2010, 09:36 PM

Milan play like against Real with 2-1. Those low tricks to steal time can backfire once more.

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 09:36 PM

Started 1st half great, lots of movement, crisp quick passing, faltered towards end after the inter subs. Rino, jeez has to be subbed before he sees Red, Abate been really good, midfield looking ok so far KPB for Rino, and Allegri to sort out how to deal with way inter are playing now, i am still hopeful

Ref missed a clear second penalty on Flamini!

Come on Milan!!!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:38 PM

if pirlo or kpb who ever comes for rino we will get more connection between midifled seedorf and attack..

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 09:39 PM

i think KPB could go a long way for that. id definitely like to see seedorf off for pirlo (if healthy enough or dinho i suppose) around 65 mins

Posted by: servbot Nov 14 2010, 09:41 PM

I like this idea.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 14 2010, 09:44 PM

Depends on the result. Seedorfs done pretty well, regardless to the massive praise he receives.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:44 PM

Pirlo is warming up Hopefully for Rino and not Seedorf

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:45 PM

i dont like seedorf but i too agree seedorf has done well under he has done well, my only concern is rino he has to be replaced

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:46 PM

Seedorf's problem is the same we've had before when Dinho and Seedorf himself have been criticised and blamed. There is no connection with the midfield and attack, therefore Seedorf is having to drop very deep, he's basically picking up the ball in front of the defense and trying (but failing) to carry it to the attack, which will never work

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:48 PM

agreed but i think seedorf has given few good long balls to ibra although later in the half ibra was marked very tightly

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Nov 14 2010, 09:49 PM

+1

Pirlo warming up in the half time break so might be on for the second half. I'd sooner see KPB for Rino as Rino is walking a tightrope and is lucky to still be on the field.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 09:50 PM

@ Benitez. With him in charge of Inter I really believe we can take the title this season.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:50 PM

Pandev for Milito, man I'm worried!!

Pirlo not coming on immediately! What is Allegri waiting for?? Rino to get sent off!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:50 PM

pirlo on for rino good

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 09:50 PM

Yes! Pirlo on Rino off

Thank GOD!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:52 PM

seedorf double minded between shot and pass i suppose

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 09:54 PM

stankovic u noob

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:01 PM

I'm getting worried...

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 10:01 PM

i like ambro better sitting in front of the defense. he looks more comfortable there

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:01 PM

same

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 10:03 PM

what the hell happened to abate?

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:04 PM

abate down another player injured....and btw when is oddo coming back

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:05 PM

abte will be sent off

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:05 PM

Abate you idiot!!!

Posted by: servbot Nov 14 2010, 10:05 PM

wtf abate...

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:05 PM

RED CARD ABATE

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:05 PM

Sent off!!

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 10:05 PM

So stupid...

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:06 PM

Pendev dragged him into it, and Abate is too bone headed to notice such a ruse

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 10:06 PM

Abate off.

Idiot. If we lose this now..

Posted by: Coldest Nov 14 2010, 10:06 PM

Great... Just what we needed.... Is he dumb or something ? Gettin into fight when you already have yellow.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 10:06 PM

wow...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:06 PM

pandev should be given a red as well bcoz he pushed abate

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:07 PM

Robinho off Antonini on

Allegri should have done that before!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:07 PM

now we will defend only and i think we have blown this but i hope i am wrong

Posted by: servbot Nov 14 2010, 10:08 PM

One of the oldest plays in the book...

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Nov 14 2010, 10:08 PM

Last year merda had Sneijder sent off early and they went on to win 2-0

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 10:09 PM

f**kin A!!!! pandev has a face i would love to punch!!!!!! Trouble is i might not stop

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:09 PM

They were miles better then we are

Posted by: Warchant Nov 14 2010, 10:10 PM

Still should have been sent off as well though.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:10 PM

Abate knocked the ball when the game was halted and that deserves a yellow anyways...

Posted by: MizNelson Nov 14 2010, 10:10 PM

The minute I read this, I had a hunch about what the reaction would be at R&B, and sure enough...

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 10:10 PM

KPB for seedorf sometime soon. if we arent going to be able to attack normally anyway we might as well have someone with legs

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:11 PM

Ibra karate kicks Matrix out of the game

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Nov 14 2010, 10:11 PM

They are miles worse this year.

Posted by: William405 Nov 14 2010, 10:11 PM

Haha,now I really love you Ibra!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 10:11 PM

I think it should have been a yellow for Pandev, did he even get booked? I don't remember seeing a card.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Nov 14 2010, 10:12 PM

That was magnificent Shame it wasn't on Sneijder though.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:12 PM

Bottom line, he's an idiot

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:12 PM

that is not the point it depends how good are we compared to that inter

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Nov 14 2010, 10:12 PM

Yellow each.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 10:12 PM

Payback for what Matrix has done to Sheva while back

Posted by: servbot Nov 14 2010, 10:12 PM

Materazzi should be gone too...even though he didn't hit Ibra because of Ibra's kick, he was flying in with both feet up. The intent was there.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

Matrix tastes what it feels like to knock out someone like that

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

Seedorf!!! So close!!!!

Posted by: servbot Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

ohhhhh so close seedorf!!

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

soo close for seedorf

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

FFFFFUCK!! so close

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

ZEEE!!! SO CLOSE

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 10:13 PM

Absolutely +1!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:14 PM

i thought seedorf scored

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:16 PM

That would've been too good to be true

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:16 PM

no support for antonini at all

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 10:16 PM

Seedorf looks tired. Bring KPB in.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:17 PM

Boateng coming on. Hopefully for Seedorf

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

Seedorf off Boateng on

Good sub

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

Zlatan has been ah-mazing

Posted by: milanbuf88 Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

KPB for seedorf!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

it done boss anything else

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

Good game from Seedorf, bought off at about the right time too.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

Ibra isn't a footballer, he's a magician! I don't think I've seen anyone with skills like he has. For such a big man he is unbelievable!

KPB for Seedorf

Posted by: William405 Nov 14 2010, 10:18 PM

Wow,Bravo allegri.*Claps*

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 10:19 PM

Another goal would be nice

Posted by: Warchant Nov 14 2010, 10:19 PM

Is it bad that I just laughed at matrix getting stretchered off with a blanket over his face?? Haha

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:19 PM

If we avoid any distractions, we can hold on to this..

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:20 PM

I didn't laugh.


But I smiled

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:21 PM

We need to keep that ball longer.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 14 2010, 10:21 PM

+1

Love or hate him, he's truly unique.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 14 2010, 10:22 PM

It should have come in some stage of his career with all the bullshit he has done. I don't feel sorry for him.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:23 PM

pressure is on us

Posted by: han2503 Nov 14 2010, 10:23 PM

We're going to conceed. I can feel it coming!!

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 14 2010, 10:23 PM

I chuckled

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:25 PM

what apoor ball by ibra and ambro with tactial foul gets yellow

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 14 2010, 10:25 PM

we will concede soon by the looks of it

Posted by: servbot Nov 14 2010, 10:27 PM

we have got to clear the ball! Too much time being spent in our own box!