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Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 06:45 PM
All the UEFA Cup 2007/08 talk here!
Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 06:47 PM
No more Sevilla please...
I want Fiorentina to win it!! 
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 07:44 PM
Sure why not...go Viola...
Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 07:51 PM
Viola? Nah... Bayern will be there. 
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 07:53 PM
Prandelli owns Hitzfeld's @$$.
Pazzini will walk all over Luca Toni.
Nothing personal...just *yawn* trying to instill some spirit into me.
Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 08:00 PM
Prandelli is a top-coach. Like him. I wish good luck to all the italian teams in UEFA Cup.
Posted by: LaPalma Jun 18 2007, 08:06 PM
Not that I like them....in fact I really hate them, but Bayern has to win the cup and IMO they're huge favorites.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 08:11 PM
Taking this Gandhi fixation a bit too far aren't u. Even I don't do this and he's the father of my nation.
*walks off whistling 'Winds of Change*...appropriate in the circumstances*
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 09:58 PM
I want Fiorentina to win it!!
Hey! What's wrong with Sevilla!?
You're lucky they're in the CL this year. Me too.
I hope Viola/Empoli win it. But I think it'll be between Bayern and Spurs.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 18 2007, 10:01 PM
it's not too often that a big team like bayern plays UEFA cup. but i have my money on the viola or spurs but my heart is with fiorentina
Posted by: misha Jun 18 2007, 10:05 PM
I hope Viola/Empoli win it. But I think it'll be between Bayern and Spurs.
Sevilla would be there too after they will finish third in their group
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 10:47 PM
I'll have to see the seeding to see what I think. I'd imagine they'll be a second seed, due to their success in Europe the last few years, to go with a good season domestically this year.
I wouldn't be disappointed too much if they were to drop into the UEFA Cup. We'll jus tmake it a hat-trick.
Posted by: misha Sep 21 2007, 06:03 AM
Everon drew at home with Metalist and Andy Johnson missed two penalties
Posted by: dst Sep 21 2007, 10:18 AM
All 5 Greek teams won last night... I'm scared, something's wrong... could it be aliens? I'm afraid Inter are even going to reach the semis of the CL this time... something's changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air... 
Posted by: Tennie Sep 21 2007, 12:55 PM
I think the win of the night for the Italian teams has to go to Empoli, who beat Zurich with what was, essentially, a reserve team.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 21 2007, 06:23 PM
I was waiting for somebody to make a joke. Darren Bent scored, against World class opposition, too.
As for Andy Johnson, what a loser! 
Posted by: Nova Oct 4 2007, 09:57 PM
wow !! all greek teams made it to the next round !! 
Posted by: Tennie Oct 4 2007, 09:59 PM
Wow. Well done, Hellas!
Posted by: aLbErTo Oct 4 2007, 10:05 PM
dinamoooooooooo !!!! 
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 4 2007, 11:07 PM
phew fiorentina made it thru, i have my bet on them to win the uefa cup. that would make me very happy.
Posted by: LaPalma Oct 5 2007, 09:32 AM
Wow...3 of 4 italian teams are out....IMO a clear indicator for the fact that the Serie A lacks class below the big teams. Fiorentina were lucky to make it through though.
All Bundesliga teams got through...even Bayern
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 5 2007, 02:22 PM
I completely agree with you there. You'll find alot of opposition to it though.
Posted by: dst Oct 5 2007, 02:39 PM
I think the middle-class Serie A teams are almost as good as the EPL ones while the ones from Spain come first.
The fact that 3 out of the Italian 4 teams were eliminated from the UEFA Cup only proves that they think too much of themselves... they don't seem to care about the UEFA Cup which is of course a mistake!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 5 2007, 02:54 PM
Wasn't fiorentina playing against an Italian team?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 5 2007, 03:01 PM
They beat Groningen on penalties.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 5 2007, 03:03 PM
Oh...k...my poor viola...ahh the batistuta and rui days....
Posted by: aLbErTo Oct 5 2007, 04:24 PM
great modric, awesome mandzukic and koch...poor ajax
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 5 2007, 04:59 PM
All Bundesliga teams got through...even Bayern
you dint even see the games
ur just looking at scores here. two or 3 of those games the serie a sides completly dominated the game and their opposition scored on one of the only chances they had. that danish even admitted they we're lucky to get thru.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 5 2007, 06:18 PM
ur just looking at scores here. two or 3 of those games the serie a sides completly dominated the game and their opposition scored on one of the only chances they had. that danish even admitted they we're lucky to get thru.Palermo did got out to a team I've never even heard of. No disrespect to that other team, but if you can't beat them over 2 legs, you really can't be that good.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 5 2007, 06:18 PM
Dinamo !!! ZAGREB !!!!!! DINAMO ZAGREB!!! Hats off
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 5 2007, 06:34 PM
ya obviously they should have easily gone thru but we all know palermo have a good team and proven players. they probably arent as strong as everyone thinks but they did beat spurs last year dint they?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 5 2007, 06:40 PM
No, Spurs went unbeaten until they lost to Sevilla.
I think they beat West Ham though, but that's like comparing Spurs to Livorno.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 5 2007, 08:48 PM
I think they beat West Ham though, but that's like comparing Spurs to Livorno.
hey i love west ham
Posted by: dst Oct 5 2007, 08:57 PM
Zaragoza were eliminated by Ares and Blackburn by Larissa... I know very well the level of Greek football and if I took these results seriously I'd say both of them should be demoted to Spain's and England's second division respectively!!
Posted by: Tennie Oct 5 2007, 09:04 PM
Isn't Larissa the semi-pro club, dst? I remember you being surprised that one of the Greek clubs was even in the competition.
Posted by: dst Oct 5 2007, 09:13 PM
Well they play in the first league but... their level... they can't get a couple of passes right! I could go there right now and play for them...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 6 2007, 04:51 AM
^^^
Hmmph...show off, have you learnt to cross yet, mr. right back?
Who needs Alves...get dst on a free transfer...
Posted by: Tennie Oct 24 2007, 03:07 PM
The Uefa Cup starts up tomorrow with a whole bunch of games. The big matchup is Villareal-Fiorentina. Villareal looks to be fielding a full-strength lineup; Fiorentina didn't call up Montolivo but he's the only major absence.
Bayern are missing a whole bunch of people for their game. Toni, Ribery, De Michelis, etc etc etc.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 25 2007, 09:30 PM
Spurs 1-2 Getafe. Very poor defending.
Spurs have only ever lost 1 home game in Europe, shows just how bad this season's going for them.
Posted by: Locke Lamora Oct 25 2007, 09:31 PM
Very poor defending.Spurs have only ever lost 1 home game in Europe, shows just how bad this season's going for them.
I just love these months.
Posted by: LaPalma Oct 25 2007, 10:16 PM
Damn those Bayern...they always win in the end. Congrats to Bayerns Toni Kroos. He surely is the biggest U18 talent in the world IMO. Came on with Bayern beeing one goal down...then he assists Klose and scored with a direct free kick
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 07:21 PM
Bayern 0-1 Bolton - '20
If they lost, it'd be embarassing, doesn't matter how highly they rate the UEFA Cup. They're losing to a team that'll probably be relegated.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 8 2007, 07:27 PM
If they lost, it'd be embarassing, doesn't matter how highly they rate the UEFA Cup. They're losing to a team that'll probably be relegated.
Whats the line up of Bayern ?!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 07:32 PM
Bayern look like they have a strong line-up. Bolton don't seem to care, they have their third choice keeper playing, amongst other reserves
Posted by: Tennie Nov 8 2007, 07:36 PM
It's a standard lineup; the only difference I can see with Bayern is that Podolski is starting in place of Toni (who is on the sub's bench).
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 8 2007, 07:38 PM
So Bayern are playing their best XI ?! Or something close to that ? Cuz if they were then Kurt's comments about Bayern embarrassing themselves should be the case. But if Bayern are playing their 2nd XI, then it really doesn't mean anything if they won or lost; except how the English press interpret it
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 07:41 PM
It's not just the Munich line-up. Check the Bolton team, how many of those players have you even heard of?
HT 1-1. It's only a matter of time until Bayern win it, it's one way traffic.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 08:07 PM
2-1. Podolski's 2nd. It was ALL Ribery, though. Superb run and pass.
EDIT: I dunno why it quoted some post, especially since it wasn't even from this thread.
That Kroos kid's on for Ribery, first chance I've had to see him.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 08:40 PM
Kevin Davies! 2-2!
FT 2-2.
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 8 2007, 09:00 PM
FT 2-2.
Great result...those stupid Bayern didn't use their chances. Seems their struggling after their great start....that was their 3rd draw in a row. Kroos wasn't too special today...but then...he's just a 17-year old teenager.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 09:05 PM
Whatever happened to Schweinsteiger (Spelling?). Around Euro2000 he was being hailed as the next big thing in Germany, he just doesn't seem to have developed into the top player I was expecting, he was very poor today, too.
I think bayerns biggest mistake today was they seemed to have thought they'd won the game (When they bought of Podolski and Ribery) verybig mistake, especially at 2-1.
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 8 2007, 09:10 PM
I think bayerns biggest mistake today was they seemed to have thought they'd won the game (When they bought of Podolski and Ribery) verybig mistake, especially at 2-1.
Spot on. About Schweini (your spelling was correct btw.
). On hand he's only 22 or 23 (first appeared at the Euro 2004) but then he hasn't developed since the World Cup. IMO he's a bit like Gerrard (only that Schweini prefers to play on the flanks)...good shooter, very strong etc. ... but then he's far away from Stevies class.
Posted by: Tennie Nov 8 2007, 09:12 PM
Schweini's peroxide job also just...doesn't work. [/girlie comment]
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 09:19 PM
). On hand he's only 22 or 23 (first appeared at the Euro 2004) but then he hasn't developed since the World Cup. IMO he's a bit like Gerrard (only that Schweini prefers to play on the flanks)...good shooter, very strong etc. ... but then he's far away from Stevies class.Youngsters nowadays seems to be around forever (That's why I thought it was Euro2000 when he first broke into the International scene!). I didn't realise he was still that young, so he still has time to develop and reach a really high level.
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 8 2007, 10:31 PM
damn...basel was on their knees already...shame dinamo couldn't score at least one chance...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 8 2007, 11:01 PM
Todays UEFA Cup scores..
UEFA Cup - Group A
Larisa 2 - 3 Zenit St. Petersburg
Nurnberg 0 - 2 Everton
UEFA Cup - Group B
FC Copenhagen 0 - 1 Panathinaikos
Aberdeen 1 - 1 Lokomotiv Moscow
UEFA Cup - Group C
Mlada Boleslav 1 - 2 Villarreal
Fiorentina 6 - 1 Elfsborg
UEFA Cup - Group D
Rennes 1 - 1 Brann Bergen
Dinamo Zagreb 0 - 0 Basel
UEFA Cup - Group E
Spartak Moscow 2 - 1 Bayer Leverkusen
Toulouse 2 - 3 Sparta Prague
UEFA Cup - Group F
Bayern Munich 2 - 2 Bolton W.
Aris Saloniki 3 - 0 Red Star Belgrade
UEFA Cup - Group G
Hapoel Tel Aviv 0 - 2 Tottenham H.
AaB Aalborg 1 - 1 Anderlecht
UEFA Cup - Group H
Galatasaray 2 - 3 Helsingborg
Austria Vienna 1 - 2 Bordeaux
A good night for the English teams, a very bad night for the German sides.
Big win for Fiorentina, Vieri amongst the goals!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 8 2007, 11:12 PM
). On hand he's only 22 or 23 (first appeared at the Euro 2004) but then he hasn't developed since the World Cup. IMO he's a bit like Gerrard (only that Schweini prefers to play on the flanks)...good shooter, very strong etc. ... but then he's far away from Stevies class.Plus he's always injured !!!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 29 2007, 05:59 PM
i hope dinamo wins today in norway...
17:00 Zenit Petersburg - FC Nurnberg
18:30 Lokomotiv Moscow - FC Copenhagen
18:30 Sparta Prague - Spartak Moscow
19:00 Hamburger SV - Rennes
20:00 AEK Athens - Fiorentina
20:00 Panionios - Galatasaray
20:15 Brann - NK Dinamo Zagreb
20:15 FC Zurich - Toulouse
20:15 Helsingborg - Austria Vienna
20:45 Atl. Madrid - Aberdeen
20:45 AZ Alkmaar - Larisa
20:45 Getafe - Hapoel Tel Aviv
20:45 Tottenham - Aalborg
21:00 Bolton - Aris Thessalonikis
21:00 SC Braga - Bayern Munich
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 29 2007, 09:59 PM
The Spurs-Aalborg has been entertaining.
Aalborg took a shock lead early on, then doubled it before the break. HT 0-2. Within 40 seconds of the restart Berbatov pulled one back, 5 minutes later Malbranque qualised. Huddlestone involved in both goals.
EDIT: Spurs have turned it around, 3-2. Darren bent.
FT AEK 1-1 Fiorentina, was a result from earlier.
Posted by: aLbErTo Dec 5 2007, 10:59 AM
it's going to be interesting today...
Dinamo Zagreb - Hamburg SV (can't wait for Modric vs. Van der Vaart clash)
today's all uefa matches are on 20.45 CET...
Posted by: LaPalma Dec 5 2007, 12:01 PM
Dinamo Zagreb - Hamburg SV (can't wait for Modric vs. Van der Vaart clash)
today's all uefa matches are on 20.45 CET...
Going to watch the match as well. It'll be interesting how Olic will do.
VdV vs. Modric....I think Rafael is a atm better than Modric though the Croatian is a talented player as well. He was very good in Dynamos CL-Qualifier against Bremen (Diego was better though
)
Posted by: LaPalma Dec 5 2007, 10:40 PM
Hamburg wins. 2-0....Can't say that I don't admire Hamburg coach Huub Stevens....he's one of the best out there.
Posted by: aLbErTo Dec 5 2007, 10:51 PM
yeah, stupid game, seems like dinamo can't lose a match either way then in last 5minutes...modric was better today then VdV, but not much...
in last match they now have to win by 2 goal difference at least...
rules for goint through group stage in UEFA CUP are next:
1)points
2)goal difference
3)goal scored away from home
...
Posted by: LaPalma Dec 5 2007, 11:25 PM
in last match they now have to win by 2 goal difference at least...
rules for goint through group stage in UEFA CUP are next:
1)points
2)goal difference
3)goal scored away from home
...
Well...Dynamo didn't have to many chances--->Huub Stevens work. He once made a very popular comment which describes his style very good, can't really translate it but it's something like "The most important thin is the others don't score against us".
Dynamo wasn't very good in penetratting Hamburgs defensive...they had almost chance to score. Hamburg used their chances.
Modric...he was much more present on the field than the Durch, but VdV was more effective.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Dec 21 2007, 03:07 PM
Aberdeen v Bayern Munich
AEK Athens v Getafe
Bolton v Atletico Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg v Villarreal
Galatasaray v Bayer Leverkusen
Anderlecht v Bordeaux
SK Brannv Everton
FC Zurich v Hamburg
Rangers v Panathinaikos
PSV Eindhoven v Helsingborg
Slavia Prague v Tottenham
Rosenborg v Fiorentina
Sporting Lisbon v Basle
Werder Bremen v Braga
Benfica v Nuremburg
Marseille v Spartak Moscow
(Ties to be played on 13/14 February and 21 February)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Draw for the last 16:
Anderlecht/Bordeaux v Aberdeen/Bayern Munich
Rangers/Panathinaikos v Werder Bremen/Braga
Bolton/Atletico Madrid v Sporting Lisbon/Basle
Galatasaray/Leverkusen v FC Zurich/Hamburg
AEK Athens/Getafe v Benfica/Nuremburg
Rosenborg/Fiorentina v SK Brann/Everton
Slavia Prague/Tottenham v PSV Eindhoven/Helsingborg
Marseille/Spartak Moscow v Zenit St Petersburg/Villarreal
(Ties to be played on 6 March and 12/13 February)
Aberdeen in Europe at all is funny enough. Aberdeen still in Europe after the group stage is hilarious, now all they have to do is beat Bayern.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 14 2008, 04:14 AM
Todays UEFA Cup results..
Zenit St. Petersburg 1 - 0 Villarreal
Galatasaray 0 - 0 Bayer Leverkusen
AEK Athens 1 - 1 Getafe
Brann Bergen 0 - 2 Everton
Werder Bremen 3 - 0 Braga
Anderlecht 2 - 1 Bordeaux
Marseille 3 - 0 Spartak Moscow
PSV Eindhoven 2 - 0 Helsingborg
Rangers 0 - 0 Panathinaikos
Sporting Lisbon 2 - 0 Basel
Posted by: Tennie Feb 14 2008, 04:25 AM
FYI, Grimi apparently played for Sporting today. I'm surprised the Huns didn't get a goal at Ibrox, but I don't think any of the other results from today are especially surprising.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 14 2008, 08:05 PM
HT: Aberdeen 2 - 1 Bayern.
(The fish doll thinks it's because the Dons all drink Irn Bru).
Posted by: LaPalma Feb 14 2008, 09:14 PM
HT: Aberdeen 2 - 1 Bayern.(The fish doll thinks it's because the Dons all drink Irn Bru).
FT 2:2. With Ribery, van Bommel, Sagnol and Kahn back in action Bayern will sadly enough win the 2nd leg easily.
Yesterdays match between Bremen and Braga was good too. Bremens goalie Tim Wiese saved two penalties
Leverkusens Rene Adler was amazing as well (against Galatasaray).
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 14 2008, 10:34 PM
Goddamn it, Aguero has been sent off for A.Madrid. His disciplinary record is pretty bad, it would make Rooney blush
Does anybody know how many red cards he has accumulated altogether this season?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 14 2008, 10:38 PM
Does anybody know how many red cards he has accumulated altogether this season?
And Diouf scored, 1-0 Bolton. Atletico haven't scored an away goal, and no Aguero for the 2nd leg.
(Spurs lead in Prague: Slavia 1-2 Spurs - Berbatov and Keane made it 0-2, a horrible error for Cerny allowed Slavia to pull one back.)
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 14 2008, 10:58 PM
Full time scorers from tonight..
Aberdeen 2 - 2 Bayern Munich
Zurich 1 - 3 Hamburger SV
Rosenborg 0 - 1 Fiorentina
Bolton 1 - 0 Atletico Madrid
Slavia Prague 1 - 2 Tottenham
Games still being played..
54' Benfica 1-0 Nurnberg
Posted by: Portikins Feb 14 2008, 11:39 PM
FT Benfica 1-0 Nurnberg
Aguero has everything a player need to Moratti splash some money on it:
-From Argentina.
-Foward.
-Gets sent off week in week out.
-Cnut atittude.
...
-Good player though.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 15 2008, 12:48 AM
Aguero has everything a player need to Moratti splash some money on it:
-From Argentina.
-Foward.
-Gets sent off week in week out.
-Cnut atittude.
...
-Good player though.
Yep, agree with you there, brilliant player but horrible termperament
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 15 2008, 05:16 AM
is it just me or a lot of the good Argentines are like that?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 15 2008, 08:50 AM
^^
Riquelme is a bit more controlled. So was Batigol. Must be the new generation. They're made superstars, before their shoulders are strong enough to bear the inflated ego.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 21 2008, 08:46 PM
It's a good day to be a German team in the UEFA Cup today.
Hamburg drew 0-0 to Zurich and go through based on the 3-1 result of the first leg.
Leverkusen thumped Galatasaray 5-1.
Bayern beat Aberdeen 5-1.
Bremen are away to Braga, but I imagine Bremen will take that one.
Nuremberg play Benfica at Luz a bit later on. But for this one, I'm hoping the scoreline's the other way around. (Forza Benfica!)
Posted by: Portikins Feb 21 2008, 10:23 PM
Hamburg drew 0-0 to Zurich and go through based on the 3-1 result of the first leg.
Leverkusen thumped Galatasaray 5-1.
Bayern beat Aberdeen 5-1.
Bremen are away to Braga, but I imagine Bremen will take that one.
Nuremberg play Benfica at Luz a bit later on. But for this one, I'm hoping the scoreline's the other way around. (Forza Benfica!)
UEFA Cup this year belongs to Bayern. If they perform 70% of what they can they'll win easily.
Podolski double and Lucio scored great FK, what a screamer it was [ http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1806500 ]. Van Bommel and Van Buyten scored the others.
Benfica plays in Germany. And Charesteas just scored. So it's 1-1 agg.
*EDIT*
2-0 to Nurnberg. What a joke this Benfica is. A shame for the history of the club.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM
Yikes. And Saenko just scored so it's 2-0. C'mon Benfica! SPORTING are winning, don't let them outdo you!
Liedson is on a real tear for Sporting -- two of their three goals.
Posted by: Portikins Feb 21 2008, 10:40 PM
Liedson is on a real tear for Sporting -- two of their three goals.
Basel is a joke. Sporting is not in a good moment (even Benfica is ahead of them in the table) and still hit 4 or 5. Liedson is OK, but he's not having a good season in the Portuguese League, although he scored some in the European Cups.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 21 2008, 10:44 PM
Man. That really is rough, Porty. The two teams in the Portuguese league that I like are...sucking this year. And I just can't bring myself to support Porto. They've got cooties.
Posted by: Portikins Feb 21 2008, 10:52 PM
Man. That really is rough, Porty. The two teams in the Portuguese league that I like are...sucking this year. And I just can't bring myself to support Porto. They've got cooties.Cardozo 1-2. At the 89th.
Benfica alla Juventus.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 21 2008, 10:54 PM
Wow. Talk about last minute. Do they go through on away goals?
Posted by: Portikins Feb 21 2008, 10:56 PM
2-2 Di Maria.
Yep. They've won 1-0 in Luz.
Today Benfica scored 2 in the last 3 min. Now they'll play Getafe.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 21 2008, 11:00 PM
Forza Benfica! Even if it IS at the last possible minute. Be interesting to see what they do against Getafe.
Posted by: Portikins Feb 21 2008, 11:14 PM
Bolton kicked Atletico Madrid out of Europe.
Now it's Bolton-Sporting Lisbon in 1/8 finals.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 22 2008, 12:05 AM
A fairly decent European week for the Egnlish teams. Liverpool, United and Chelsea are all in a fairly strong position to go through. While Spurs, Everton and more surprisingly Bolton are through, after knocking out Atletico.
Posted by: dst Feb 22 2008, 12:47 AM
Damn it!!
Posted by: LaPalma Feb 22 2008, 12:14 PM
Yep. They've won 1-0 in Luz.
Today Benfica scored 2 in the last 3 min. Now they'll play Getafe.
They were really lucky on this one. Would have been a shame for a team like Benfica to be thrown out by a team that hasn't won a Bundesliga match in weeks though.
All the other german teams deserved to proceed to the next round. Bayern showed some of their class against Aberdeen, and it's good to see that Poldi can still play some football. The biggest surprise for me is Leverkusens 5-1 win over Galatasaray. Even without Rene Adler.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 03:31 PM
UEFA Cup Round of 16 games tonight.
Anderlecht (BEL) vs (GER) Bayern Munich
Fiorentina (ITA) vs (ENG) Everton
Marseille (FRA) vs (RUS) Zenit St. Petersburg
Bolton Wanderers (ENG) vs (POR) Sporting Lisbon
Rangers (SCO) vs (GER) Werder Bremen
Bayer Leverkusen (GER) vs (GER) Hamburger SV
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) vs (HOL) PSV Eindhoven
Benfica (POR) vs (ESP) Getafe
Posted by: dst Mar 6 2008, 03:50 PM
I want Fiorentina, Benfica, Sporting Lisbon, Werder and Tottenham to go through.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 03:53 PM
I want Everton, Spurs, Bolton and Benfica through.
Posted by: KillerMax Mar 6 2008, 03:54 PM
How come you like Tottenham? Berbatov?
Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 04:24 PM
I'd like to see the Viola, Leverkusen, (don't believe I'm saying this) Bayern, and both Portuguese teams go through. Benfica cos I like 'em and Sporting cos [girlie comment] Veloso is cute. [/girlie comment]
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 6 2008, 04:35 PM
Benfica, Fiorentina, Sporting, Bremen (of course) would be nice. Bayern out would be just great though it won't happen I'm afraid. Going to see (on TV ) Hamburg vs Bayer today. I say the Pillendreher should be out with Hamburg advancing. I'd like to see their coach huub Stevens winning a title at the end of his Bundesliga career. He's a great tactician (master of defensive football and not inferior to any italian in that department) and a great man too. The Bundesliga owes him much.
Posted by: KillerMax Mar 6 2008, 04:39 PM
I think this is going to break your heart then...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqu9uAMl3wU
Seems like he likes to putt from the rough...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 04:49 PM
Current odds on who is going to win the whole competition. No surprise on the favourite.
Bayern Munich - 3/1
Tottenham - 6/1
Everton - 15/2
Werder Bremen - 8/1
Fiorentina - 11/1
Hamburg - 16/1
Sporting Lisbon - 16/1
Bayer Leverkusen - 18/1
Benfica - 18/1
Getafe - 18/1
Marseille - 18/1
PSV - 18/1
Zenit St Petersburg - 25/1
Bolton - 40/1
Rangers - 40/1
Anderlecht - 66/1
Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 07:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqu9uAMl3wU
Seems like he likes to putt from the rough...
Why is it I'm not surprised that you had this clip so close to hand, Max?
In any event, Veloso is awfully nice to look at, no matter where he likes to putt from. He's also a very good footballer.
Posted by: dst Mar 6 2008, 07:41 PM
Ramos. From players I like Lennon. Berbatov I admire too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqu9uAMl3wU
Seems like he likes to putt from the rough...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgwwWa-x8Sk the first one. And of course Barry is always classic.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 09:07 PM
Well. Bayern woke up. FT: Anderlecht 0 - 5 Bayern.
Lots of other games underway now. FYI, Grimi has started for Sporting.
Posted by: Portikins Mar 6 2008, 09:17 PM
What a stunner by Altintop: http://www.4shared.com/file/39992691/68b3cc1a/0-1_Altintop.html
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 09:24 PM
Marseille lead Zenit SP 1-0. Cisse with the goal.
Everton goal disallowed, clear offside from Cahill.
GOAL! Gavin McCann has give Bolton the lead vs Sporting.
Posted by: Portikins Mar 6 2008, 09:37 PM
They're shite. I won't be surprised if Sporting and Benfica get kicked out of Europe by Bolton and Getafe.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 09:41 PM
Spurs 0-1 PSV, Farfan.
Terrible giveaway by debut boy Gilberto.
Posted by: Habitant Mar 6 2008, 09:43 PM
i'm going for fiorentina, rangers, sporting, hamburg, spurs, benfica.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 09:46 PM
Oops.
Oscar Cardozo, straight red in the 9th minute. Benfica's gonna have a long day.
Posted by: Portikins Mar 6 2008, 09:47 PM
Oscar Cardozo, straight red in the 9th minute. Benfica's gonna have a long day.
Bad decision IMO.
Posted by: Habitant Mar 6 2008, 09:54 PM
Fiorentina and Everton clash in the UEFA Cup this evening. James Horncastle reveals some interesting parallels between the pair
Everton and Fiorentina are an odd couple. When the UEFA Cup quarter-final draw brought them together in December I struggled to see anything in the pair that complemented the other. But when the teams line-up at the Artemio Franchi tonight it will be possible to detect more parallels than opposites.
At primary school I was taught that blending blue and red paint makes the colour purple. While Merseysiders are encouraged not to mix the two colours, patches of Viola can still be found around Goodison Park.
Per Kroldrup spent six unhappy months with the Toffees in 2005, making only one League appearance. All he got for his troubles was a single honour – he was voted the worst signing in Premiership history by The Times. Everton boss David Moyes was said to have mixed-up the Dane with another scouted centre-half and subsequently bought Kroldrup, who he, allegedly, didn’t want.
Since Cesare Prandelli brought the former Udinese defender back to Italy he has hardly been neglected, playing over 35 games for the Gigliati and will almost certainly start, for better or worse depending on your opinion, against the Blues this evening.
Another Everton misfit, Andy Van Der Meyde, if selected, will face teammates from his Inter days, Christian Vieri and Alessandro Potenza.
And the quirky connections between the clubs don’t end there. Both Fiorentina and Everton are regarded in Italy and England as either the smallest of the big teams or biggest of the small teams. Cesare Prandelli and David Moyes, whose European debut as a player for Celtic in 1981-82 was against a Juventus XI including Prandelli, look set to challenge for a Champions League spot this term.
While the Toffees have never netted against Italian opposition in the UEFA Cup, hitman Yakubu, who rifled in his 16th of the campaign against Manchester City on February 25, has surpassed the previous club record for goals scored in a single season established by Andrei Kanchelskis in 1995-96. The Russian was sold the following year to the Viola.
The Florence outfit will be without their top scorer, Adrian Mutu, who injured his knee on the same day Yakubu broke ‘Kan-Kan’s’ achievement. The Romanian would have been useful to the Gigliati having already scored against Moyes’ Blues while playing for Chelsea in 2003-04.
Talk about colour clash!
So, who will win? The two sides have impeccable records in Europe this season and effectively cancel each other out. Everton have won eight consecutive matches in the competition while Fiorentina are unbeaten.
If I had to nail my flag to the mast, it would be the Viola’s, just. I, and Fiorentina, would be hammering it into the flagpole if the competition’s leading goalscorer Luca Toni was still at the club.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 09:58 PM
Rangers lead 1-0 at HT.
Marseille now lead 2-0.
Benfica 0-1 Gatafe after 30 minutes.
Posted by: Locke Lamora Mar 6 2008, 10:00 PM
1-0 to Getafe vs. Benfica.
De La Red.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 10:07 PM
De La Red is good. Pity he belongs to the [insert Porty's favorite word] of Real Madrid.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 10:07 PM
Scores as they are now.
FT Anderlecht 0 - 5 Bayern Munich
61' Fiorentina 0 - 0 Everton
61' Marseille 3 - 0 Zenit St. Petersburg
46' Bolton W. 1 - 0 Sporting Lisbon
46' Rangers 2 - 0 Werder Bremen
HT Bayer Leverkusen 0 - 0 Hamburger SV
HT Tottenham H. 0 - 1 PSV Eindhoven
34' Benfica 0 - 1 Getafe
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 10:18 PM
Fiorentina 1-0 Everton.
Make it 2-0. Looks like Everton will need an away goal if they're gonna stand a chance of going through.
Posted by: Habitant Mar 6 2008, 10:46 PM
Make it 2-0. Looks like Everton will need an away goal if they're gonna stand a chance of going through.
forza viola
Posted by: Habitant Mar 6 2008, 10:46 PM
montolivo is exactly what our midfield lacks, exactly!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 6 2008, 10:53 PM
Two brilliant goals by the Viola, and they were unlucky not to add more
In an outstanding display of sportsmanship, the fiorentina players (after the final whistle) gave a guard of honour to the departing Everton players
Posted by: Locke Lamora Mar 6 2008, 10:58 PM
Benfica are getting mauled by Getafe, 0-2 now.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 11:00 PM
Bolton 1-1 Sporting
Spurs 0-1 PSV
Fiorentina 2-0 Everton
I am not happy.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 11:11 PM
Benfica have pulled one back, 1-2.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 6 2008, 11:11 PM
Spurs 0-1 PSV
Fiorentina 2-0 Everton
I am not happy.
To me those results are good, except for the Spurs one, i wanted them to win and i also dislike PSV immensely
Posted by: dst Mar 6 2008, 11:12 PM
Ha-ha!! 
Great game by Fiorentina!!! They could have scored 3 and more if they were more careful... I can't believe how pathetic Everton was. This team can't be fighting for 4th place, I guess they are playing much better in the EPL cause tonight they did not even create half a scoring chance...
Awesome goal by Montolivo! Highly-technical assist and shot!
Sporting got away with a draw too! Too bad for Ramos' Spurs though.
whoops!
Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 7 2008, 12:46 AM
@ fiorentina
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 7 2008, 12:54 AM
Hmmm...Bayern finally seem to find their form. @ Poldi he hasn't scored a goal in the Bundesliga for a year or so now but he already scored 5 or 6 goals in the Uefa Cup. Altintop is really impressing. The biggest surprise of the entire Bundesliga season for me. I would have never imagined him to be a starter for Bayern.
also @ Bremens goalie Tim Wiese. He showed everyone why Jogi Löw doesn't consider him an option for the NT today.
@ former Bochum star Theofanis Gekas. He scored the decider for Leverkusen and played a fine game. Hopefully Michael Skibbe will bring him more often now.
Fiorentina seem to be in a real good shape which is kinda scary. I think them and bayern are hot favourites to win the Uefa Cup. But Bayern has a huge advantage when it comes to experience cause they have veterans such as Zé, van Bommel 
(obligatory smiley for van Bommel), Sagnol, Lucio and Oli Kahn who is as motivated to win the Uefa Cup as Paolo was to win the CL.
Posted by: dst Mar 7 2008, 01:36 AM
also @ Bremens goalie Tim Wiese. He showed everyone why Jogi Löw doesn't consider him an option for the NT todayvan Bommel
(obligatory smiley for van Bommel)Ridiculous errors. Especially the first one.
I too despise this son of a...
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 7 2008, 01:54 AM
@ Poldi he hasn't scored a goal in the Bundesliga for a year or so now but he already scored 5 or 6 goals in the Uefa Cup. Sounds like the German Pippo Inzaghi
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 7 2008, 09:18 AM
The problem is that Poldi is 12 years younger than Pippo and doesn't have the privilege to s@ck in the league.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 7 2008, 09:23 AM
I don't think Pippo used that particular privilege 12 years ago. He'd tear anything up...
He just missed Seedorf this Tuesday.
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 7 2008, 09:24 AM
He just missed Seedorf this Tuesday.
Of course he didn't. He earned it.
Seedorf.... + Pippo =
?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 7 2008, 09:27 AM
Call mchanna. She's the one who specialises in same sex match making...
I don't know how it'll work. Pana for one would never hold his peace.
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 7 2008, 09:29 AM
I don't know how it'll work. Pana for one would never hold his peace.
She's in Austria....don't you know they eat Sacher Torte at that time...tsts....
Posted by: Darunia Mar 12 2008, 10:03 PM
Everton up 1-0..
Rooting for Fiorentina, they need an AG and it's over.
Posted by: Darunia Mar 12 2008, 10:11 PM
Brilliant Arteta goal, 2-2.
Fiorentina is playing terrible, they need to pick up their game!! Frey has been amazing.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 12 2008, 11:15 PM
Viola match to penalties!
Graveson scores - 1-0
Pazzini scores - 1-1
Yakubu misses - 1-1
Montolivo scores - 1-2
Arteta scores - 2-2
Osvaldo scores - 2-3
Jagielka misses - 2-3
Santan scores - 2-4
FIORENTINA ARE THROUGH THANKS TO SOME BRILLIANT PENALTIES AND SAVES
FORZA VIOLA
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 12 2008, 11:31 PM
Best league in the world? Nope
I feel for Tottenham as i wanted them to qualify but the world carries on spinning. I have no love for Everton so f*** them
Posted by: dst Mar 12 2008, 11:39 PM
Fiorentina are through!! YES!!!
They were very bad just like Everton were in the first leg. I think it was fair that it was decided by the penalty shootout procedure...
Also, through to the next round are Zenit (vs Marseille, 1-3 / 2-0), Bayern (vs Anderlecht, 5-0 / 1-2 - Bravo to the Belgians they played to win and they did snatch the victory in Germany!), Getafe (vs Benfica, 2-1, 1-0), Leverkusen and PSV.
There are two more games to be played tomorrow.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 12 2008, 11:42 PM
Er. dst, psst. It's Leverkusen through, not Hamburg. Leverkusen went through on away goals even though they lost today.
And yay for the Viola!
(Can we please buy Montolivo? I like him!)
Posted by: dst Mar 12 2008, 11:48 PM
Ha-ha! I'm faster than you!!
Can I have a cookie?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 12 2008, 11:49 PM
I feel a little sorry for SPurs and Everton to get out that way, but if you can't win penalties, that's your own fault. Congrats to PSV and Fiorentina.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 12 2008, 11:51 PM
Can I have a cookie?Well, if you insist. The fish doll was going to buy you a tshirt from Il Capitano's shop in Milan but if you really want a cookie, I'll see if I can talk him into it...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 13 2008, 05:17 AM
PSV needed that win more I guess....in any case Spurs are in my book the team to watch next season.
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 13 2008, 06:36 PM
i'm on vacations in Lisboa, so i'm going to see sporting-bolton match today, i hope it'll be good game and lots of fans !! anyway, good for us that viola got through
Posted by: Tennie Mar 13 2008, 06:46 PM
Oooh!
Have fun in Lisboa, Alberto!!!!
Don't forget to get some Pasteis de Nata (though not at the game).
Posted by: Nova Mar 13 2008, 06:55 PM
I was there yesterday with work and I was kinda cheering for tottenham too.
When i was at the players tunnel doing the interviews Keane passed me by mumbling "for f*cks sake" .
And it was a pretty sh!tty last penalty , but hey , thats football.
Istanbul anyone ?
Posted by: Darunia Mar 13 2008, 08:59 PM
Grimi is starting for Sporting today! Forza Grimi.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 13 2008, 10:55 PM
Well. I'm a little surprised.
The Huns go through over Bremen, 2-1 aggregate. Diego pulled one goal back today, but Rangers' 2 in the first game are enough to take them to the next round. The Hun keeper (McGregor) had an absolutely amazing game.
And Sporting go through over Bolton. 1-0 today, 2-1 on aggregate. Doesn't sound like it was the best game - Bolton sent what was essentially a reserve team and Sporting was missing a couple of regular starters and even THEN, it took Sporting until the 85th to score. Grimi played the full 90, not sure how good he was.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 14 2008, 01:08 AM
I watched the 1st half of the Bolton game in a Sports Bar and it was terrible, shame they went out, though. Looks like I'll have to just watch the CL for the English team. Kinda hoping for a Gers vs Viola UEFA Cup final.
I would say from what I saw that Grimi was 'solid', he never made any out of this world tackles, but he didn't make any mistakes either. Had a decent 1st half from what I saw.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 14 2008, 02:15 PM
The draw is:
Leverkusen - Zenit
Rangers - Sporting
Bayern - Getafe
Fiorentina - PSV
Semis:
W3 v W1
W2 v W4
So my guess at the Semis is:
Bayern - Leverkusen
Rangers - Fiorentina
Final:
Bayern - Fiorentina
Posted by: dst Mar 14 2008, 02:57 PM
The final? Hmm... Rangers vs Leverkusen. PSV I think will eliminate Fiorentina...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 14 2008, 03:12 PM
Rangers vs Bayern.
Posted by: misha Mar 14 2008, 04:39 PM
Bayern - Fiorentina
yep
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 18 2008, 06:38 PM
I just realised something
The final is at Man City's stadium
Its not too far from my house
_________________________________
If the Viola make it to the final, i will buy a ticket to sit with their fans, if Bayern make it the same (Toni love). If they both make it then Fiorentina win my seat
Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 18 2008, 07:19 PM
I just realised something
The final is at Man City's stadium
Its not too far from my house
_________________________________
If the Viola make it to the final, i will buy a ticket to sit with their fans, if Bayern make it the same (Toni love). If they both make it then Fiorentina win my seat
Hehe nice to hear. so you live in Manchester... which side of Manchester do you support? the red or the blue?!
Fingers crossed for a Bayern-Fiorentina final. it would be GREAT! just like a CL final.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 18 2008, 08:14 PM
Fingers crossed for a Bayern-Fiorentina final. it would be GREAT! just like a CL final.
The blue side
Posted by: Tennie Mar 18 2008, 08:18 PM
(But Mancini-the-younger's having a trial with the blue side!)
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 26 2008, 05:07 PM
If this actually happens it will be a real final, and more interesting then the CL one in Moscow. Only Roma wakes interest in me now that we are out with Real and Lyon.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 26 2008, 11:45 PM
Okay..
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 3 2008, 07:18 PM
Bayern Munich vs. Getafe
Fiorentina vs. PSV Eindhoven
Rangers vs. Sporting Lisbon
Which one are you going to watch, if anyone? I'm going with Firoentina PSV. Go Firoentina!
By the way, Zenit winning 1-4 away from home against Leverkusen...
Posted by: Tennie Apr 3 2008, 07:25 PM
Wow. Just saw the end of the game. Shocking, the way Leverkusen just fell apart like that. I'd say we know one of the semifinalists.
Well done to Zenit.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 3 2008, 07:35 PM
Well done to Zenit.
And Adler? How was he?
I'm gonna watch Bayern-Getafe. Forza Bayern!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 3 2008, 07:55 PM
^^^
Bah...humbug...Forzaa Laudrup FC. 10ster don't Americans always support the underdogs and the longshots?? Or is that a cultural myth?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 3 2008, 07:58 PM
Haha. Well, Fillipo, Adler conceded FOUR. Not a good game from him at all.
As for the underdog thing...yeah, generally we do. Plus, the only famous footballer I've ever met was the Getafe coach's kid brother (although it was a very long time ago). I suppose I'm cheering for Getafe in this one.
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 3 2008, 08:07 PM
This Afellay kid looks pretty exciting.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 3 2008, 08:29 PM
^^
Sell Kaka then....goddamn injury prone players...buy Afellay?
EDIT:
Wait...I was just being sarcastic...not trying to be sassy or poke fun at anybody's opinions... Ok?
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 3 2008, 08:42 PM
Sell Kaka then....goddamn injury prone players...buy Afellay?
EDIT:
Wait...I was just being sarcastic...not trying to be sassy or poke fun at anybody's opinions... Ok?
Banned.
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 3 2008, 08:47 PM
Toni with the only goal so far in all three games.
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 3 2008, 09:00 PM
Mutu goal! Gomes made a mess of that one.
Posted by: Habitant Apr 3 2008, 09:02 PM
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 3 2008, 09:43 PM
Results tonight.
Bayer Leverkusen 1 - 4 Zenit St. Petersburg
Bayern Munich 1 - 1 Getafe
Fiorentina 1 - 1 PSV Eindhoven
Rangers 0 - 0 Sporting Lisbon
Posted by: Darunia Apr 3 2008, 10:15 PM
Another start for Grimi, it's good to see him get some european experience. I want him back next year, he's def an upgrade over Favalli and would be a good backup LB
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 4 2008, 12:22 AM
Just to be sure, Bayern were superior for most of the time, and this bad ref disallowed one perfect clear Toni goal and called a wrong offside decision.
Hmh,..Getafe really isn't something worth watching in the final. Just a mediocre team that tends to complicate too much. But well, ex-Milanese Cosmin Contra scored!! Remember him? He did score for us against Inter, right?
Anyway. I'm looking forward to a Bayern-Fiorentina final clash..
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 4 2008, 01:36 PM
PSV will go through. Fiorentina messed up their chances at home and PSV are no pushovers.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 07:21 PM
FT Zenit 0-1 Leverkusen (Agg 4-2)
Posted by: Tennie Apr 10 2008, 07:25 PM
This must be 'miss a penalty' week. Zenit had one late in the game and Adler saved it.
It'll be interesting to see how PSV-Fiorentina plays out. Game's in Eindhoven, but PSV are missing both Afellay and Farfan.
The Lions of Sporting host the Huns at the Alvalade too -- and Grimi is set to start.
Don't even want to guess a result on Getafe-Bayern.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 07:33 PM
I shall be watching Sporting-Rangers. Mainly for former Villan Steven Davis, but I'm becoming 'British' for the night, also going against my Celtic loyalties!
Posted by: Tennie Apr 10 2008, 07:52 PM
You're being BRITISH? For the HUNS?
( The fish doll wants to know who kidnapped Kurt's mind.)
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 07:55 PM
i am watching getafe munich... getafe are harshly down to ten men
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 07:59 PM
Well, in theory I SHOULD like Rangers instead of Celtic anyways because of what they stand for off the field. Plus I like the football they play, they're a very under-rated side - just because they play in an awful league.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 08:22 PM
oh C.Lell is total crap
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 08:25 PM
PSV 0-1 Viola - Mutu.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 08:32 PM
extremly gud goal by getafe player what a run 1-0
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 08:34 PM
Great news!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 08:35 PM
Cosmin Contra with the goal!
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 08:37 PM
yea HT 1-0 Getafe have been down to ten from 7th minute and that lell missed a gr8 chance altough there were lot of pressure by munich still getafe defended gud
Posted by: Nova Apr 10 2008, 08:54 PM
0-2 MUTU !!
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 08:59 PM
Bayen had a goal disallowed argue able decision.... WOW VOILA
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 09:03 PM
DARCHVILLE! 0-1 Rangers!
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:15 PM
getafe player past kahn then slipped it should have been 2-0 man
Posted by: Tennie Apr 10 2008, 09:20 PM
Wow. I go into a meeting and all sorts of stuff happens.
Go Getafe!
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:28 PM
yea getafe need to defend for 9 mins more
Posted by: Habitant Apr 10 2008, 09:33 PM
Hmh,..Getafe really isn't something worth watching in the final. Just a mediocre team that tends to complicate too much. But well, ex-Milanese Cosmin Contra scored!! Remember him? He did score for us against Inter, right?
Anyway. I'm looking forward to a Bayern-Fiorentina final clash..
it's his second goal against bayern too, he scored int he first leg in 2nd half injury
Posted by: Habitant Apr 10 2008, 09:33 PM
oh and bayern have been up a man for the whole game so i dont expect getafe to attack.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:33 PM
another gr8 miss by getafe they dont want to kill the game
Posted by: Habitant Apr 10 2008, 09:34 PM
lol bayern tie.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:35 PM
1-1 now getafe can enjoy
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 09:36 PM
Whittacker, awesome run. 0-2. Rangers are through.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 10 2008, 09:43 PM
still at work here -- is Getafe-Bayern in extra time now?
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:46 PM
getafe is 3-1 up i quit the match will switch on again
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 09:48 PM
2 goals in 2 minutes for Getafe, wow.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:52 PM
Munich could be conceding more on counter
Posted by: Habitant Apr 10 2008, 09:52 PM
pfff i dont care how much bayern "dominated"
a game. if u play a whole game a man up ur expected to dominate possesion and despite this getafe scored 3 goals! and had plenty of chances to kill off the game.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:56 PM
a game. if u play a whole game a man up ur expected to dominate possesion and despite this getafe scored 3 goals! and had plenty of chances to kill off the game.
possesion ofcourse has to be for bayen they have had man advantage from 7th minute
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 09:58 PM
HT ET 3-1
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 10:00 PM
Getafe-Rangers Final is my hope then!
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 10:05 PM
Voila??
Posted by: Tennie Apr 10 2008, 10:05 PM
Getafe is one of those little teams that big teams underestimate at their peril. They pulled a lovely victory over Real at the Bernabeu and now this!
Posted by: Nova Apr 10 2008, 10:08 PM
3-2 now !
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 10:08 PM
3-2.
Luca "why on earth did Milan not buy him!" Toni with the goal.
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 10:09 PM
3-2 blunder by keeper
Posted by: Nova Apr 10 2008, 10:13 PM
GOALLLLL 3-3 TONIIIIIIIII HAHAHAAAAAAAAA UNBELIEVABLEEEEEE
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 10:13 PM
3-3
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 10:14 PM
tke kepper should retire
Posted by: Habitant Apr 10 2008, 10:15 PM
pathetic
Posted by: Darunia Apr 10 2008, 10:15 PM
wow Bayern won..
Posted by: Portikins Apr 10 2008, 10:15 PM
Amazing Bayern. F amazing. 3-3.
Posted by: Habitant Apr 10 2008, 10:17 PM
Amazing Bayern. F amazing. 3-3.
yes and no
they were gifted it by the keepr
Posted by: fahad Apr 10 2008, 10:17 PM
i feel sory for getafe now mutu versus toni
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 10 2008, 10:18 PM
Unbelievable.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM
I feel really sorry for Getafe, they really deserved to go through, if only it Abbodanzieri didnt make that mistake...
Mutu's goals were superb as was Frey's penalty save, one penalty which was not superb was featured in the Zenit match
One of the Rangers goal was quite good (solo run one)
Posted by: Darunia Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM
What a collapse.. even with 10 men wow.
Posted by: morgoth Apr 10 2008, 10:44 PM
Wow what a game, Getafe should be awarded the victory, 3 goals with 10 men and against Bayern is something out of this world!
Posted by: misha Apr 10 2008, 10:49 PM
You gotta feel for Getafe. They are just a small team (30 mil budget compared with 200 of Bayern) . They had some injured players before the game, another player was injured during the game, and played with 10 players from early on. And still they found strength to fight for 120 and gave fantastic effort and match ()and of course were the better side).
Something similar happened in the 1982 WC (1/4 or 1/2 final). France was leading 3:1 over Germany in OT bad Germans equalized and won on penalties. Football is played 120 min and Germany wins in the end
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 10 2008, 11:28 PM
Something similar happened in the 1982 WC (1/4 or 1/2 final). France was leading 3:1 over Germany in OT bad Germans equalized and won on penalties. Football is played 120 min and Germany wins in the end
That's exactly what I was thinking when the second half of the extra time started. Kalle Rummenigge killed the French back then.
This game...maybe it was the payback the football god granted Bayern for the 1999 CL final. It was an amazing game...I can only recall that....f@cking amazing.
Normally I have strong sense of dislike when it comes to Bayern but to see Oliver "Titan" Kahn end his international career in an UEFA cup quaerterfinal against Getafe in front of 15000 viewers would have made me sad tbh.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 10 2008, 11:40 PM
Watching a replay of PSV-Fiorentina now. Fiorentina are playing really well. I do like the Viola - always have - and enjoy watching them play. Hope they do very well indeed in the UEFA Cup.
(Also, the more they run in UEFA Cup games, the more tired legs will be for the league games that follow.)
Posted by: Habitant Apr 11 2008, 01:49 AM
(Also, the more they run in UEFA Cup games, the more tired legs will be for the league games that follow.)
it could easily have the opposite effect. rally the team together and strengthen the "unit". we all know what effect winning has on a squad.
it's not like being in the CL has had any positive effect on milan which is supposedly pinned back on tiredness.
Posted by: LaPalma Apr 11 2008, 11:53 AM
Oliver Kahn "God didn't want us to be out" Priceless.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 11 2008, 02:25 PM
Well, just like I said...looking forward to a Bayern-Viola clash. Both teams deserve the final and sure would present us a gala-final..
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 11 2008, 02:46 PM
Neither deserve the Final any more than Zenit and Rangers do really, and I do hope that is the final.
Posted by: morgoth Apr 11 2008, 09:15 PM
Man your avatar scares the hell out of me, I don't know why!
Posted by: Habitant Apr 11 2008, 09:53 PM
heeeeeere's johnny
Posted by: dst Apr 12 2008, 11:27 AM
UEFA Cup > Champions League
Bayern played like **** yet they won because of their new signings, Ribery and Toni. Amazing game that one was.
Mutu's first goal was unstoppable!! Just perfect... an inch closer to the corner and it would stuck between the posts!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 12 2008, 12:18 PM
Bayern played like **** yet they won because of their new signings, Ribery and Toni. Amazing game that one was.
Mutu's first goal was unstoppable!! Just perfect... an inch closer to the corner and it would stuck between the posts!
Right. CL this season is boring. How many more times will there be a Chelsea-Liverpool duel? The fact that I have to chear for Barca tells it all...
Well Jack Nicholson was allways kind of scary...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 12 2008, 12:24 PM
United beating Barca by a few goals in the first leg would make it perfect for me. Where will always those EPL mockers be then?
Posted by: Nova Apr 12 2008, 01:57 PM
They will probably mock the english national team then
Posted by: morgoth Apr 12 2008, 11:36 PM
that's mean
Posted by: Darunia Apr 13 2008, 12:02 AM
I wonder how we'll do in this competition next season.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 13 2008, 12:50 AM
that's mean It's true though. We have a bunch of great players that don't understnd the word 'team'. And a coach that can't even speak English. Fantastic!
Posted by: misha Apr 13 2008, 02:05 AM
Already have a problem with Fabio? He took the job two minutes ago
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 13 2008, 12:33 PM
Yes, I do. If you can't speak enough English to even attempt an interview in English by now, then he shouldn't be doing the job to be honest.
But the football we're playing is the worst it's been since.. well, certainly as long as I remember wathching us. Not only are the results as bad as McLarens and worse than Svens, the football is much worse and boring and he's picking the wrong players for certain jobs in my opinion.
Anyways, this isn't the thread to talk about England.
So it's Zenit-Bayern and Fiorentina-Rangers SFs right? Bayern should make the final, but I really don't know a whole lot about Zenit. The other tie should be very interesting. Both clubs still have their focus on other areas (Fiorentina fighting for CL & Rangers fighting for title/FA Cup) but I'm sure they will treat this competition as though it's very important to them. To close to predict in my opinion, will be settled by 1 goal/away goals/penalties.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2008, 12:40 PM
^^^ Don't be that sure. Both sides (Fiorentina and Rangers) have a tendency of breaking down in important matches. I'm not sure it I'll be so tight. I'm more convinced one of the teams will break and conceed 2-3 maybe more goals..
Bayern - they just have to make it. What a way for Hitzfeld to end his Bayern career - League title, UEFA cup final (maybe) and German cup final (vs. Dortmund)..
Posted by: Tennie Apr 24 2008, 12:14 AM
So tomorrow are the UEFA Cup semifinals.
Bayern play Zenit St. Petersburg and Rangers play Fiorentina.
On the face of it, Bayern are heavily favored to beat Zenit. Thing is, Bayern have had episodes of inconsistency and Luca Toni is sitting out the first leg through yellow card accumulation. Mark van Bommel (accompanied by the obligatory ) has a broken nose but should play. Zenit St. Petersburg are a bit of a surprise team - they totally steamrolled Leverkusen at home and they may just be able to pull an upset.
Rangers-Fiorentina should also be interesting. Walter Smith has done a great job improving the Huns and they're doing very well domestically. However, they'll be missing more than half their starting lineup either through injury or yellow card accumulation. Fiorentina are doing...well, everyone knows how they're doing domestically. Ujfalusi is out due to injury and Donadel is out due to yellow card accumulation. I'd rate the Viola as perhaps slight favourites in the game, but it IS at Ibrox and the Huns may be able to get the win because it's a home game.
(viewing note for those in the US: both games will be on Fox Soccer Channel. WARNING - Max Bretos will probably do commentary for one if not both of the games)
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 24 2008, 12:43 AM
And I'm going to have to miss the Fiorentina-Rangers game because of a stupid college presentation! 
Posted by: Tennie Apr 24 2008, 12:46 AM
(School is good for you.)
The fish doll suggests recording the game?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 24 2008, 12:54 AM
The fish doll suggests recording the game?
I think I shall do that.
School may be good for me, but it's just some boring 5 hour presentation. I'm not even paying attention, I've put some movies on my iPod to watch instead. It really is pointless me even going, but the teachers are having none of it.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 24 2008, 12:20 PM
Quick update on Rangers-Fiorentina.
Ujfalusi has recovered more quickly than usual and may play - it'll be a game-day decision.
The Rangers fan association has set up a fanzone adjacent to the stadium, where there'll be 7-a-side games for Rangers and Fiorentina support, music, dancing, food (haggis? deep fried mars bars?) and whatnot. I thought it was a nice touch for the Huns to put on a party.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 24 2008, 03:38 PM
^^ Deep fried mars bars? Yummy...
Posted by: Tennie Apr 24 2008, 06:57 PM
Hm. Well, Ujfalusi is in the official lineups on uefa.com, so maybe he really did recover. The Rangers side looks - to me - to be fairly depleted of its regulars. Hope this one and Bayern-Zenit are both good games. Will watch both when I get home (and so help me if it's Max Bretos doing commentary, I shall unpack my Sex Pistols cd and blast that for 90 minutes).
Posted by: Tennie Apr 24 2008, 09:10 PM
This must be 'Defender Own Goal Week'. First there was Riise for the Scousers. Now Lucio's done it for Bayern. (As of the 60th minute or so, Rangers-Fiorentina is scoreless and Bayern-Zenit is 1-1, with the goal in the right net coming from Ribery).
Posted by: morgoth Apr 24 2008, 10:40 PM
Bayern drew at home again, they probably get the result they need in Russia, I hope they don't though!
Forentina got the worst of good results, they'll have to win t go through, as would say Platini : "If can beat the Rangers, they have nothing to do in the final"
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 02:40 PM
So the UEFA Cup semifinals are today.
Bayern travel to St. Petersburg to take on Zenit. First leg was 1-1. Bayern have a mostly full-strength squad -- Kahn is back from an injury and will probably play. Miroslav Klose should also play despite having his nose broken in 3 places over the weekend (ow!). Willy Sagnol will NOT play, as he seriously pissed off coach Ottmar Hitzfeld. Zenit are also mostly full-strength, but they'll miss Andrei Arshavin who's been one of their best players (yellow card accumulation).
Rangers travel to Florence to take on the Viola after a goalless draw in the first leg. The Huns are still missing people through injury, though David Weir may make it. Barry Ferguson will definitely play, which is a boost for them. Everyone's available for the Viola, though Adrian Mutu is (I think) 1 card away from a suspension.
There's also a novelty in Florence today. Following on the fanzone the Huns put together for them, Fiorentina have organized a fanzone for Rangers supporters near the Artemio Franchi. While such things are common in a lot of countries, I don't know that it's ever really been done in Italy. Full credit to the Viola for this one.
Both games are wide open to me and all the teams have a good shot of going through. Should be some good football!
(Programming note for those in N. America or those who watch via stream: Fox Soccer Channel will be showing both games live. Be warned that Max Bretos may well be doing commentary, though.)
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 05:36 PM
Well. Bayern are actually going to have to play for this one. The Zenit-Bayern game is earlier than normal due to St. Petersburg being a couple of timezones away. In the 4th min, Zenit's Pogrebnyak scored and Zenit now lead 2-1 on aggregate.
Posted by: Habitant May 1 2008, 06:12 PM
2-0 !
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 06:19 PM
Gosh. I sure didn't expect Zenit to be up 2-0 at halftime. Bayern really need to pick their game up if they hope to progress. Zenit are a good side.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 06:41 PM
3-0 ZENIT! YES!
The Russians are going to Manchester by the looks of things! And a Manchester team is heading to Russia.. I wonder if we could exchange them for good..
Posted by: m1ke May 1 2008, 07:00 PM
It's 4!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 07:00 PM
4-0. Man, that Lahm is poor. Why on earth is he being linked with top clubs!
Pogrebnyak (Spelling?) has just picked up a yellow for Zenit, he will miss the final. Ouch.
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 07:02 PM
Wow. Double wow. Well done to Zenit. The fish doll gives them a fins up and all the borscht they can handle.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 07:21 PM
FT Zenit 4-0 Bayern.
The only negative for Zenit is that top scorer, who also scored 2 tonight, Pogrebnyak will miss the final for a yellow card. (Harsh yellow in my opinion, they should appeal).
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 07:37 PM
^^ But Zenit do get Andrei Arshavin back from suspension -- and he's very, very good.
From reports in the Italian media, the Rangers fans have been enjoying themselves in Florence in the historic part of town and in the designated fanzone. There are no reports of any problems.
Let's hope for a good second semi.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 07:45 PM
Fiorentina:
Frey, Jorgensen, Gamberini, Ujfalusi, Gobbi, Donadel, Liverani, Montolivo, Santana, Pazzini, Mutu. Subs: Avramov, Dainelli, Semioli, Osvaldo, Kuzmanovic, Pasqual, Vieri.
Rangers:
Alexander, Broadfoot, Cuellar, Weir, Papac, Hemdani, Davis, Ferguson, Thomson, Whittaker, Darcheville. Subs: Graeme Smith, Buffel, Boyd, Novo, Cousin, Dailly, Faye.
Still no McGregor in goal for the Gers!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 08:24 PM
Rangers are such a defensive team its annoying
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 08:32 PM
Every team away in Europe plays like this in my opinion. Even the best teams (Milan @ Arsenal, United @ Barca, etc) play "defensively". But if you can't break them down, that's your own problem.
Fiorentina have had the best of it so far, most of the game's been in the Rangers half. HT 0-0.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 08:40 PM
Fiorentina have had the best of it so far, most of the game's been in the Rangers half. HT 0-0.
True most teams defend away from home (EPL teams love a form of disguised catanaccio in europe) , but when you are the home team at Ibrox, playing 9-0-1 is unacceptable
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 08:52 PM
Second half has started. Fiorentina replaced the injured Marco Donadel (former Milan primavera placer) with Zdravko Kuzmanovic just before the half.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 09:01 PM
The way this game's going, it' sonly a matter of time before Fiorentina score, surely. Rangers can't keep hold of the ball for more than 10 seconds.
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 09:02 PM
Hopefully it goes to extra time, but they still win as I want them to win it, but the game going to extra time will benefit us, especially if we don't manage to win against Inter
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 09:11 PM
I remember Donadel. Why exactly did we sell him? Not good enough? He would surely be useful now
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 09:21 PM
Pazzini OFF, Vieri ON.
(The commentator mentioned that Pazzini is yet to score a European goal.. Gila v2. )
Vieri should have scored, can't believe he missed that!
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 09:34 PM
Looks like it's going to extra time at this rate.
@kurt, Gila actually scored a couple in the UEFA cup for Parma if I'm not mistaken
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 09:35 PM
FT 0-0 (Agg. 0-0).
Cuellar has been Man of the Match y a mile so far, I can't even keep count of how many times the commentators have said ihs name as a result of him clearing the ball!
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 09:37 PM
Yess!!! Extra time, let's hope they win it though Rangers almost nicked it at the end there
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 09:40 PM
Vieri was awfully close there!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 09:55 PM
ET HT 0-0.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 09:56 PM
Rangers never had any intention of attacking Fiorentina, even at Ibrox.
FU Rangers!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 10:01 PM
Cousin sent off, silly red card. Went face to face with Liverani.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:01 PM
Cousin sent off
Forza Viola!
Posted by: Tennie May 1 2008, 10:04 PM
Got off work early so now am watching the game live. I think I was better off with the text play by play -- Max Bretos is doing commentary.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:04 PM
As if it wasnt all out defence at the start, its what its become now
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 10:05 PM
is doing commentary. I'm watching it on FSC also, his stupidity just amuses me at this point
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 10:07 PM
Rangers will probably win this on penalties, Fiorentina have been very unlucky
Posted by: acid911 May 1 2008, 10:08 PM
I'm watching an Arabic stream, so I should consider myself rather lucky. Having said that, I'd love to hear this Max Bretos dude, Ten. If you find a clip of him on Youtube or any other site, do let me know. I don't want to die without experiencing Bretos.
Weired match though. Of course, I'd like the Viola to win after a good 120+ minutes of play, so they get as much tired as is humanly possible.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 10:09 PM
Frey almost Fd it up there!
bad miss by Mutu!
Posted by: acid911 May 1 2008, 10:11 PM
Super save by Frey!!!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:11 PM
Should Rangers win this, it will encourage depressing boring defensive football
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:12 PM
Vieri is useless, Pazzini would have done better there
Posted by: acid911 May 1 2008, 10:12 PM
Followed by a stupid miss by Vieri. Why is this guy still playing in Serie A?
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 10:12 PM
Oh no, but the British don't play boring football, how can you insinuate such a thing!!!!!!
This showing is an act of courage on their part not defensive football just like Man U's showing against Barca.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:14 PM
This showing is an act of courage on their part not defensive football just like Man U's showing against Barca.
sigh...
True, the papers tomorrow will be praising this result, but if it was an Italian team it would be negative boring etc
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 10:15 PM
1 minute before penalties, and you know Rangers will win it on those
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:16 PM
I was actually looking forward to going to the final in Manchester, if Fio were/are to make ie
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:17 PM
Here we go,
Ferguson vs Frey...
SAVED!!!!!!!!!!
0-0
Kuzmanovic vs Alexander...
GOAL!!!!!!!!!!
0-1
Posted by: Darunia May 1 2008, 10:18 PM
At least Fiorentina have to play 120 minutes and their next Serie A game is on sunday.
Posted by: han2503 May 1 2008, 10:18 PM
YESS Come on
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:19 PM
Whitaker vs Frey
GOAL
1-1
Motolivo vs Alexnader...
GOAL
1-2
Posted by: acid911 May 1 2008, 10:19 PM
Super save by Frey for the first penalty!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:20 PM
Monto lookin pleased
Sassapach?
GOAL
2-2
Liverani...
SAVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2-2
Hendani?
GOAL
3-2
Vieri (dear lord)...
MISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3-2
I knew he would shank it
Novo...
goal...
Defensive football wins...
Posted by: Habitant May 1 2008, 10:24 PM
vieri u useless sack of shite.
and liverani... he doesnt look up and made his penalty so obvious...
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 1 2008, 10:24 PM
SUPER RANGERS!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:25 PM
Fiorentina players looking utterly dejected, i feel for them
Commentators are going mad praising Rangers for "brilliant" display. I beg to differ
Posted by: weeeow May 1 2008, 10:26 PM
Fio shouldve won like 10 - 1
Now they'll focus on Serie A...
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 1 2008, 10:28 PM
I am still p!ssed
Rangers are a shite team, no idea how they managed to get through.
Dream final between Viola and Bayern gone
Ironic how most experienced player (Vieri) completely shanked it over. Its painful watching how much he has declined over the years...
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