[Rossoneri7]

My son went to see the game - he didn't get home till god knows what time this morning.

I've got to say that Man Utd were the better team in the 2nd half, they didn't need their goalie, and Man Utd did their usual trick by snatching a winning goal in the dying moments of the game.

Good luck in Italy next week, AC Milan will need it..!!

Rob.

AC Milan don't need luck ... AC Milan already have luck, it's called Inzaghi (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Also known as 'SUPERPIPPO' R7.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Could very well be the decisive man.

[KillerMax]

3) Well, I`ve been pretty unconfident with that Bonera guy. But some of you guys gave him the green light and started to praise him. But...he deserved praise against Siena or Empoli or who-gives-a-d@mn. Against Inter he was bad! Against Roma the same! And now here...We don`t need him. We have allready Å imić and Kaladze, who both have more Euro experience than Bonera ever will have. But in such games Gourcuff and Bonera are surpluses, for the roles Carlo gives them. Gourcuff is still to green and I don`t like the idea of giving him the chance 10 minutes before the end of such an importatnt game. Cause, you`ve got to be Messi, Torres, or some of those hyped-youngsters to make a difference in 10 minutes. And Yohann can`t do that.

Bonera didn't do bad. He came in the second half and he obviously doesn't have the European experience and leadership of God Maldini, but he was still pretty solid. He will become a much much better defender than Kaladze and Simic in a 1-2 year time.

Gourcuff is too green? I think, despite that being a fact due to his tender age, he has done very well untill just recently and that I will blame Carletto. He has a habit of playing with a players confidence because he has his own ccertain conservative thinking about his line up and it's very tough to get him to change that even if you are really impressing!

Going back to Bonera, he didn't make any clear mistakes. ManU's second goal was more Oddo's fault for blocking the offside trap. Bonera could have done better.


If anyone, it was Brocchi that showed inexperience and played exactly like a Serie C quality player. He destroyed our game play and game plan by clearing every ball he got into ManU's half. I knew at that moment that we were gonna lose the match, cause doing that against ManU is like shooting yourself in the foot.

[weeeow]

guys about Gila yesterday night, he made the runs for Kaka! Brown and Heinze and Carrick were on Kaka and so Carlo told Gila to run away from Kaka to lure Brown to him at the same time making space for Kaka to run into. Even the english commentators for ITV1 said this!

I was surprised that Gourcuff came on for Gila because Inzaghi should have come on instead. There was an oppurtunity for Kaka to cross in the final minutes before their lucky goal but no one was in the box. Gourcuff needs another 2-3 years to get his talent shining IMO.

Milan are fine, I've made 10 bets in school each £5 that Milan will beat Man U. It is pure fact we will. With Curva Sud roaring louder than those northerners, we will be all over them like we were for an hour at Old Trafford because they were singing the 'SEGNARE KAKA!' song!

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[han2503]

Bonera didn't do bad. He came in the second half and he obviously doesn't have the European experience and leadership of God Maldini, but he was still pretty solid. He will become a much much better defender than Kaladze and Simic in a 1-2 year time.

Gourcuff is too green? I think, despite that being a fact due to his tender age, he has done very well untill just recently and that I will blame Carletto. He has a habit of playing with a players confidence because he has his own ccertain conservative thinking about his line up and it's very tough to get him to change that even if you are really impressing!

Going back to Bonera, he didn't make any clear mistakes. ManU's second goal was more Oddo's fault for blocking the offside trap. Bonera could have done better.
If anyone, it was Brocchi that showed inexperience and played exactly like a Serie C quality player. He destroyed our game play and game plan by clearing every ball he got into ManU's half. I knew at that moment that we were gonna lose the match, cause doing that against ManU is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Totally agreed on the Brocchi bit. As soon as we lost Maldini I said 'Oh god, we've lost our calming effect'

When we lost Rino I said 'We're going to lose control of the midfield' and lo and behold, it happened.

I though Brocchi would be decent enough to replace Rino for 30 minutes, but he totally bottled it, and wasn't even helping Oddo out with Ronaldo or Giggs and he kept commiting to sliding tackles without getting the ball, leaving the defence stranded. He was ridiculous, and then to top it off he made the fatal error that gave united the winner.

About Bonera, I have said a million times how great he is, but I don't think he has the nerves for such a game yet, that's why I prefer Kala for the next game if Paolo doesn't recover in time.

As for the whole Oddo offside thing, yeah he probably should have done better, but we should have never let Man U play the ball near our box the way we did. And also the fact that Rooney handled the ball to take it under control can't be ignored either

guys about Gila yesterday night, he made the runs for Kaka! Brown and Heinze and Carrick were on Kaka and so Carlo told Gila to run away from Kaka to lure Brown to him at the same time making space for Kaka to run into. Even the english commentators for ITV1 said this!

I was surprised that Gourcuff came on for Gila because Inzaghi should have come on instead. There was an oppurtunity for Kaka to cross in the final minutes before their lucky goal but no one was in the box. Gourcuff needs another 2-3 years to get his talent shining IMO.

Milan are fine, I've made 10 bets in school each £5 that Milan will beat Man U. It is pure fact we will. With Curva Sud roaring louder than those northerners, we will be all over them like we were for an hour at Old Trafford because they were singing the 'SEGNARE KAKA!' song!

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I agree on the Gila thing he was working hard despite looking invisable for 90 minutes. But still Pippo is a must for the second leg, our striker will get a chance and if that happens I would trust Pippo with it more then Gila.

This post has been edited by han2503: Apr 25 2007, 09:22 PM

[Rossoneri7]

I agree on the Gila thing he was working hard despite looking invisable for 90 minutes. But still Pippo is a must for the second leg, our striker will get a chance and if that happens I would trust Pippo with it more then Gila.

Of course u would agree when someone is praising him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No more Gilardino for the next leg, Pippo Inzaghi should start

[acmilanfan]

Totally agreed on the Brocchi bit. As soon as we lost Maldini I said 'Oh god, we've lost our calming effect'

When we lost Rino I said 'We're going to lose control of the midfield' and lo and behold, it happened.

I though Brocchi would be decent enough to replace Rino for 30 minutes, but he totally bottled it, and wasn't even helping Oddo out with Ronaldo or Giggs and he kept commiting to sliding tackles without getting the ball, leaving the defence stranded. He was ridiculous, and then to top it off he made the fatal error that gave united the winner.

About Bonera, I have said a million times how great he is, but I don't think he has the nerves for such a game yet, that's why I prefer Kala for the next game if Paolo doesn't recover in time.

As for the whole Oddo offside thing, yeah he probably should have done better, but we should have never let Man U play the ball near our box the way we did. And also the fact that Rooney handled the ball to take it under control can't be ignored either
I agree on the Gila thing he was working hard despite looking invisable for 90 minutes. But still Pippo is a must for the second leg, our striker will get a chance and if that happens I would trust Pippo with it more then Gila.

Some very good points.

Couldn't add much. Also thought Brocchi would do the job with fresh legs for 25 min but he proved me wrong (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

With Maldini and Gattuso for another 20 min in the 2nd half we would've drawn the game at least. Was really bad luck we lost them so early in the second half.

Bonera has a lot of talent. I was a bit scepitcal about him at first but after watching him a bit I'm sure he will be fundamental for Milan in the future. He is extremely good in the air despite being not so tall at all.
han2503 is spot on though. He just wasn't ready mentaly to jump in in such huge CL game. He needs some more experience on european level.

For the second goal mainly 3 people were to blame. Scholes was just in the zone between Bonera and Seedorf but none od them both covered him. I think it was more Bonera who should've been couple of metres closer to Scholes not giving him the time to calibrate the chip towards Shrek. I really thought afterwards that Paolo with his experince would've read the situation better and prevent Scholes from making that pass.

Oddo did covered the offside and that is his mistake no doubt. In such situations it's Nesta who is in charge of the offside trap and the fullbacks should never ever be behind him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

All in all MU did well scoring the second goal and exposed our defence.

But the 1st and the 3rd goals were COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

In general I think we did not bad as a team performance. May be a couple of individual mistakes cost us but for large periods we were in control of the game at MU backyard. Gilardino needs to improve his game. Otherwise his days at Milan ( and in the big football) will be over (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

It's a big dilema for Ancelotti - Inzaghi doesn't have the stamina for 90 min and after 60 - 70 min he has to be substituted. But then if he puts Gilardino in the starting 11 we are endangered to play without efficient striker once again. Which inevitably wil leed to his substitution if the things are not going well for us. In both cases one of our 3 subs is spent in advance.

One of my biggest hopes for the return are Jankulovski and Oddo. They could provide us with sharpness and pace on the flanks in away Mu defence never experienced in the first game because primary objectives were to keep it tight at the back at all costs. But next wednesday, particulary where both MU first choice fullbacks are out (Neville and Evra) I think we should use the flanks more often. Probably Serjinho could give his contribution as well.
And have to find a way to free Pirlo from Scholes' marking.

FORZA MILAN

[dst]

Gattuso's exit affected us but when God left the field you could see Milan missed his spirit and at the same time United found some confidence...

I really wish he'll be back next week! Those knees of him, I wish I can see them move on the San Siro field once again, he WILL lead us to victory! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[han2503]

Of course u would agree when someone is praising him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No more Gilardino for the next leg, Pippo Inzaghi should start

I also criticised him though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Fact is, I don't think Gila has the mental strength to be there for us at such a crucial stage.

Put Pippo on, and try to get the job done before he dies on the pitch.

Imo, Gila never showed up in the match yesterday because he barely touched the ball apart from those long balls from Dida. But his movement was good. The same would be said of Pippo if he was the one playing, BUT if a chance where to fall to our lone striker up there, then I would only trust Pippo with it

[han2503]

Gattuso's exit affected us but when God left the field you could see Milan missed his spirit and at the same time United found some confidence...

I really wish he'll be back next week! Those knees of him, I wish I can see them move on the San Siro field once again, he WILL lead us to victory! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Yes God was a big loss, but the fact that we lost control in the midfield is all down to the loss of Rino (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

I also criticised him though  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Fact is, I don't think Gila has the mental strength to be there for us at such a crucial stage.

Put Pippo on, and try to get the job done before he dies on the pitch.

Imo, Gila never showed up in the match yesterday because he barely touched the ball apart from those long balls from Dida. But his movement was good. The same would be said of Pippo if he was the one playing, BUT if a chance where to fall to our lone striker up there, then I would only trust Pippo with it

So ur criticising him now (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

How dare u !! U have to give him a chance !!!


(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) han, u should have known better (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[han2503]

So ur criticising him now  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

How dare u !! U have to give him a chance !!!
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) han, u should have known better (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But seriously, when he deserves to be criticised I would never try to hold back, but when he doesn't deserve it I don't. Simple as that really.

The performance against Man U is in between, he probably should have done more to get himself in better positions, but it's not easy when you're alone up there.

It was neither a good performance nor a bad one. He needed more service from the midfield that's for sure. But it all depends on what type of game Carlo plays

[kurtsimonw]

I'm usually an optimist in situations like this and I myself blame the loss down to Palo and Rino going off.

But if losing those two for just 45 minutes or so means we collapse like that, what do we do when Paulo retires or Guttuso goes down with injury? Do we have no hope?

[KillerMax]

I'm usually an optimist in situations like this and I myself blame the loss down to Palo and Rino going off.

But if losing those two for just 45 minutes or so means we collapse like that, what do we do when Paulo retires or Guttuso goes down with injury? Do we have no hope?

Making a substitution in the middle of an important game like that is a different story. I don't want to dare say, but we have won many games without God playing.

[dst]

Making a substitution in the middle of an important game like that is a different story. I don't want to dare say, but we have won many games without God playing.

Exactly! When God leaves you, it sure is a blow!