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AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 07/08 _ 31/10/2007 - Serie A - Sampdoria vs Milan
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2007, 01:43 PM
More bad news coming from acmilan.com:
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 29 2007, 08:18 PM
.
Not something new ... Milan have always found it hard against Sampdoria.
The two stadiums in which Milan are always in trouble are in Sicily and Genoa
Posted by: Portikins Oct 29 2007, 10:31 PM
We're already in deep sh*t.
But if we don't win this one, we're probably in the relegation zone in... November. Heads would roll... definately. And honestly I hope so.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2007, 10:37 PM
But if we don't win this one, we're probably in the relegation zone in... November. Heads would roll... definately. And honestly I hope so.
Considering that we have not played with Inter (we will definitely lose -> -3 points) and Juve (-1 or -3 points) yet, I can do nothing but agree with that.
Posted by: dst Oct 30 2007, 12:12 AM
If we don't qualify for next season's CL campaign (yes R7 I know we're going to Moscow but anything could happen in a final! 
), I think things will get back to normal with our board finally deciding to spend some money (considering the last transfer windows, that would be close to E200m!! )... I mean... sorry for that but... look at Bayern!
Posted by: Darunia Oct 30 2007, 01:07 AM
I don't want Milan to be this year's Bayern 
we need to change things, get results.. starting this game
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 30 2007, 03:27 AM
we need to change things, get results.. starting this game
why wouldnt we want to be like bayern, imagine if bayern still had makay, pizzaro... they would be garbage again. the only way anything will be done is if we tank.
Posted by: Darunia Oct 30 2007, 05:27 AM
because missing the champion's league sucks.. it would be good for the future, but the present... Milan has to be bad, but still finish in the top 4 and get big changes at the same.. whether that is possible, i'm not sure.
It's a dilemma... personally I want Mourinho to come, so Milan has to do poorly for him to come, but I don't want Milan to do too poorly that they miss the champion's league. Then again, if we do well then we won't need Mourinho 
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 30 2007, 05:50 AM
It's a dilemma... personally I want Mourinho to come, so Milan has to do poorly for him to come, but I don't want Milan to do too poorly that they miss the champion's league. Then again, if we do well then we won't need Mourinho
who knows how long this could go on, even if we start winning games that isnt going to solve anything. remember last season? we're playing just as bad and still had a bad season even with the penalties and look how many changes they made
all i know is i would rather we suck now then win nothing for the next few years.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 30 2007, 07:52 AM
U guys are way waaaay dramatic about all this. Bayern were a team in decay a LONG time ago, ever since their final against United. Milan on the other hand is in a different situation; the team are missing one player. And that player is the one to unlock the scoreboards!
Cuz we had the same problem last season and once Ronaldo came, Milan started cruising 
Last season, at around december we were in the 18th or 15th place (cant quit remember, but in between) .. And we took off from there to reach a CL berth .. take a chill pill
Posted by: dst Oct 30 2007, 08:40 AM
Of course Milan do not only miss one player!!!!
To challenge for the championship a team has to have a great bench... do not kid yourself! Our bench have even less motivation than our starting XI players...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 30 2007, 02:54 PM
@ R7
Milan is missing only "one" player?! the whole team's performance was close to disaster on Sunday. with or without Ronaldo, we still need a lot a changes, it's so obvious that we shouldn't even argue on that.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 30 2007, 03:01 PM
Oddo has failed to recover for this match. Ronaldo won't be there. Marek too.
We certainly miss more than one player.
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 30 2007, 08:47 PM
DEFENDERS: Bonera, Cafu, Digao, Favalli, Kaladze, Nesta, Serginho, Simic;
MIDFIELDERS: Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Seedorf;
STRIKERS: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Kakà .
no Ronaldo again. Fabulous
Posted by: RED&BLACK Milan Oct 30 2007, 09:54 PM
didnt they say he was ready for sampdoria ??
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 30 2007, 10:45 PM
Well, if u want to asses it as u like .. By all means, this is a forum. With a free flow of ideas.
But u need to comprehend that Ronaldo is a player that can spark up the team .. Look at last season as a point of reference
Posted by: Il Capitano Oct 30 2007, 10:53 PM
Forget about Ronaldo he'll probably get injured again after a couple of games.
Gourcuff should start this match, I don't want to see Emerson or Brocchi on the pitch.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 30 2007, 10:54 PM
Gourcuff should start this match, I don't want to see Emerson or Brocchi on the pitch.
And he probably might turn our season around ...
Posted by: Bluesummers Oct 31 2007, 03:35 AM
Yeah no ambro so forsure its brocchi in and emerson subbing later. Sigh... I doubt carlo would dare to put in gourcuff and give him a chance.
Starting 11 Possibility 1: Dida-cafu-nesta-kala-fava-gattuso-pirlo-seedorf-serginho-kaka-inzaghi
Starting 11 possibility 2:
Dida-cafu-nesta-kala-favali-gattuso-pirlo-brocchi-kaka-seedorf-inzaghi
Posted by: Darunia Oct 31 2007, 08:32 AM
What Carlo will probably go with:
Dida
Cafu-Nesta-Kaladze-Favalli
Gattuso-Pirlo-Brocchi
Kaka-Seedorf
Gilardino
I wish Gourcuff could get a start here in place of Brocchi/Emerson.. but that seems highly unlikely.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 11:43 AM
It looks like Brocchi's going to play tonight. Our situation is bad enough, why Carlo wants to make it worse?! it's just silly playing all these defensive midfielders when winning the game is a 'must'. where is Willy?! I swear he can be more useful to the team than Brocchi, no matter where he plays [as a striker or an attacking midfielder], cause his pace and technique is clearly superior to that of Brocchi. I really hope Carlo finally wakes up and changes some of his moldy tactics! forget about the past seasons and what he has done for Milan, this season it's more than proved to everyone that Carlo should change something in the team, he should be a little more creative, a little more brave; though he said he won't change anything...!
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 12:39 PM
Very brittle looking squad, getting thinner by the week.
If we get a point tonight, its an improvement.
C'mon Ricky, once again the hopes are pinned on you dominating the opposition.
Gila will score in this match.
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 01:12 PM
GOURCUFF TO START!! 
** i wonder if this is gonna be one of those games where Brocchi scores a goal and it might even be the winning one**
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 02:32 PM
Cuz we had the same problem last season and once Ronaldo came, Milan started cruising
Last season, at around december we were in the 18th or 15th place (cant quit remember, but in between) .. And we took off from there to reach a CL berth .. take a chill pill
Oh come on R7!! Even you know that the problem runs deeper then that, and it isn't just saying that we only need one more player. Isn't it you that always says that football is more complicated then just simply taking off a defensive mid and putting on a striker (for example)?
Our defence is weak, we've managed to conceed at least one goal in every game, I can't remeber the last time we held a clean sheet and a lot of points have been dropped because of the defence this season, we score a goal and then we conceed a couple of minutes afterwards. Our defence seriously needs some looking into, Paolo can't play more then a game per week and until he gets back on his feet he won't really help us since he hasn't really been playing up to his standards.
And as dst said, our bench is seriously weak!! Who do we have on there that could possibly change the course of a match?? A couple of defensive mids, a youngster that's been stripped of all his confidence by not being allowed practically any play time, and a couple of old defenders. Oh and Pippo who's starting to miss more easy chances then Gila
This is exactly why our problem runs deeper then just saying that we are missing JUST one player. There is no doubt that Ronaldo will help us once he gets back, but believe me when I tell you the problem is much bigger then that.
As for tonight's game, Carlo will undoubtedly play this formation
Cafu--Nesta--Kala--Favalli
---Rino---Pirlo---Brocchi---
-------Kaka--Seedorf-------
------------Gila--------------
As for me, I would like to see this formation
Bonera--Nesta--Kala--Sergio
-----Yoann---Pirlo---Rino-----
---------Kaka--Seedorf-------
--------------Gila---------------
Bonera and Sergio as fullback so we would have a balance ie. Sergio pushes up and Bonera stays mostly back.
Yoann and Rino switch sides so that Rino can cover more on Sergio's flank.
And the rest just picks itself out
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 03:17 PM
This is Gazzetta's probable formation:
1 Dida
25 Bonera
13 Nesta
4 Kaladze
27 Serginho
8 Gattuso
21 Pirlo
32 Brocchi
22 KakÃ
10 Seedorf
11 Gilardino
And here is goal.com's:
Milan (4-3-2-1): Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Maldini; Gattuso, Pirlo, Brocchi, Kakà , Seedorf; Inzaghi
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 31 2007, 04:19 PM
We just have to win this one,...no more no less,..
Posted by: Darunia Oct 31 2007, 04:46 PM
Well Goal.com's won't be right since Maldini isn't in the squad hahaa.
Gazetta's is a decent lineup.. I don't know if Serginho has enough match fitness to start the game.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 05:23 PM
@han .. Yes football is much more complicated than replacing a defensive midfielder with a striker ... But Ronaldo is not just a striker, he is a Key player for us. Go back to last season's games, on Youtube .. (I did) and compare how we played then with now. Same sh1t my friend, but then came Ronaldo, who turned it all around. I am not saying that we depend on Ronaldo to win us matches, but the fact that this team is already complete .. It only needs someone who can split open those defenses
But my grounds are, this team is good, in fact very good. The age issue means nothing today .. maybe in a year yes, but then again we have Maldini hanging up his boots and several others will follow suit. Then there is the concentration issue, this I agree that the team isn't focused enough; maybe it is exhaustion or maybe it is the fact that this team has won so much that it feels it can't achieve more than it did! But those are just assumptions (i.e. don't hold it against me ). But overall, we are one of the strongest side in Europe, nay the world. Though the team has lost it's way recently, the quality and calibure of this team remains at it's standards.
Our bench is weak, yes i agree too (when have i disagreed??) when you compare it with inter or Chelsea ... But the core of this team is much stronger than Chelsea and inter combined 
Maybe I am biased to a certain extent, but Milan clearly have their recent achievments to show of what grade this team really is.
EDIT:
p.s. Our Bench are just there to give an extra hand, 90% of them are Serie A quality and proven players with two or three developing players ... Since when does Milan look at Chelsea or inter and compare players or benchs ?! This is Milan, the Grande Milan .. Maybe we don't have a strong bench but bring the best up against us in a make or break match and we'll show them another lesson in complete football
Anyways this is my line up for today:
Cafu--Nesta--Kala--Favalli
---Rino---Pirlo---Seedorf---
-------Kaka--Gourcuff-------
------------Gila--------------
I don't know why I am going with this, we will all know in an hr or so, but this is just what I want to see on the pitch. If not, then sub Gourcuff with Emerson and exchange his position with Seedorfs'.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 31 2007, 07:16 PM
This is what I expect Carlo to do
Bonera-Nesta-Kaladze-Sergio/Favalli
-----Rino----Pirlo-----Emerson------
-------Seedorf----------Ricky-------
------------ -----Gila-----------------
This is what I'd like to see...thank god I'm not coach
Cafu----Nesta----Bonera----Kaladze
--------Emerson-------Pirlo-----------
Brocchi/Yoann----------Seedorf/Yoan/Sergio
--------------Seedorf/Ricky-------------
------------------Gila--------------------------
Or bench Gila, and make Kaka play as striker...
he does a Totti!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 31 2007, 07:20 PM
I say.. 0-0.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 31 2007, 07:23 PM
1-0 for me. Our defence has been too bad recently to not concede. Maybe even a penalty.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 07:36 PM
Any streams ?
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 07:39 PM
lineup from acmilan.com's italian page:
MILAN: Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Brocchi; Seedorf, Kakà , Gilardino
Oy.
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 07:43 PM
That was hard to predict..
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 07:43 PM
good line up if Gourcuff comes on second half ill be happy , if we win 1- 0 ill be happy to a wins a win
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 07:44 PM
It hurts me.... It physically hurts me...
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 07:45 PM
what does ?
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 07:52 PM
The line up.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 08:06 PM
Brocchi............ .... ................ .. .. damn it!
Posted by: armisse Oct 31 2007, 08:09 PM
What a defence tonight , Bonera , Serginho and Brocci OUR CENTER OF ATTENTION
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 08:17 PM
Can we keep a clean sheet for the second time this season (first one goes back to August at Genoa)!?? Please guys... do me a favor, it hurts me to see us defend so bad! If we manage to do so we might have a chance to win this one... we seem to always find it hard to win away against Sampdoria but strange things happen in strange seasons; plus we seem to be putting on a good performance in every other game and this is the... 'other' game!
Forza Ragazzi!!! 
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 08:20 PM
Streams plz Streams
Posted by: armisse Oct 31 2007, 08:22 PM
officil webSite said that follow our live match , does it work ? really
http://www.acmilan.com/InfoPage.aspx?id=29248 ????
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 08:32 PM
where can i watch this game? its not being showed on jazeera sport
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 08:33 PM
so annoying no streams
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:34 PM
MILAN: Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Brocchi; Seedorf, Kakà , Gilardino
Oy.
Well At least I got the defence right
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 08:35 PM
Go here:
http://myp2p.eu/Weekdays.htm
Scroll down to find Sampdoria - Milan
Download UUSee from the link provided.
Click on the UUSee stream to watch the game.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:40 PM
Is anyone trying to follow that match on the official site's live Audio?
If so is it working for anyone?
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 08:40 PM
http://myp2p.eu/Weekdays.htm
Scroll down to find Sampdoria - Milan
Download UUSee from the link provided.
Click on the UUSee stream to watch the game.
is it lagging for u?
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 08:41 PM
http://myp2p.eu/Weekdays.htm
Scroll down to find Sampdoria - Milan
Download UUSee from the link provided.
Click on the UUSee stream to watch the game.
found this to hope it works
tvants://www.p2psports.cn/tvants/?k=974e3df65c3c06d351962120ab7c931c
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 08:41 PM
Nope I can't get the live audio goin han..
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:42 PM
Has the match started?
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 08:43 PM
Haha yeh it has mate, 13 or so minutes in..
Inter are 1-0 up.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:43 PM
Thought so
You'de think that if they advertised that they will have the live audio for the match on the home page of the official site that it would actually work
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 08:44 PM
From the play by play I'm trying to follow, it seems like we've had the majority of possession and have had a couple of shots on goal. (10 mins in, Han).
(edit: Lazio up 1-0 in the Rome derby. Goal by Rocchi)
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 08:44 PM
supersave by Samp keeper off Kaladze's header
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 08:45 PM
any tried my link ?
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 08:46 PM
the italian live audio is working if thats any help
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:46 PM
Can you try to keep us updated ari? Some of us here are walking blind
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 08:47 PM
ok mate
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:47 PM
Won't do any good, don't undertstand any Italian
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 08:47 PM
Samp make an early change..
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 08:51 PM
Vucinic again, Roma make it 1-1!
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 08:51 PM
The ref for the game is Mr. Ayroldi. Not one of my favorite Serie A refs. Tends to be a little harsh.
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 08:53 PM
Oh dear. Rino loses a ball in midfield which Samp pounce on with a good attempt on goal. (shot ended up being off target and slightly deflected by Nesta. Ayroldi didn't see the deflection and didn't give Samp the corner).
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 08:55 PM
we're failing to create any space in their defence!
no pressure from them either
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 08:57 PM
Doesn't seem like we're doing all that good, trying to listen to the Italian audio and it seems like Dida made a great save
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 08:57 PM
great save by nelson!!
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 08:57 PM
It's working good!
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:00 PM
Defense still asleep (my lovely Nesta included, sadly), but GREAT save by Dida.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:00 PM
is it lagging? Because I would have to switch PCs to try it and I don't want to miss anything
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:07 PM
Turtle almost! Nice shot.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:08 PM
It's good but Max's UUSee link is even better for me!
Seedorf missed a good chance. He's too slow again today...
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:08 PM
Ugh. Nocomment on Brocchi's attempt. (WE WANT GOURCUFF).
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:09 PM
Seedorf missed a good chance. He's too slow again today...
Thanks
So far the TVants link is working good, hopefully I won't have to down load another streaming program if it stays this way
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:09 PM
agree...Gourcoff please!!!!
Posted by: gal_kenny Oct 31 2007, 09:09 PM
can i watch d match on sopcast? and what should i put in d sopcast stream?
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:11 PM
I know of no sopcast link. The game is also on bwin.com
Posted by: armisse Oct 31 2007, 09:12 PM
this is not our match
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 09:16 PM
boring as hell
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:16 PM
Seedorf is slower than death! We would have done much more if it wasn't for his rust! But why are we trying to brake them down again? It's quite obvious we are not capable of doing that without Ronaldo! We should let them attack and play them at the counter-attack...
Posted by: armisse Oct 31 2007, 09:16 PM
we will not win
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:18 PM
This is Milan version 2007/2008. no surprises.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:18 PM
if we keep it clean at the back we might do...
HT 0-0
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:19 PM
*blink* Well, at least Nesta is trying. A halfway decent shot on goal from him, odd as it is to see him in the attacking half.
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 09:19 PM
cant find it on there. are u sure?
Posted by: RED&BLACK Milan Oct 31 2007, 09:20 PM
wow...how inspiring play from Milan...
Kaka' has been quiet...Seedorf slow down our attacks...no creativity at all
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:20 PM
What you rekon..
3 serie a games in a row without scoring..
3 serie a losses in a row..
Probably a $1.01 for both.
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 09:23 PM
@ ari, no it's not lagging for me.
Very boring match so far. This is not going to please the fans.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:23 PM
bwin? You have to find the Milan game tag and press the play button on the little video frame. But it won't work unless you have an account at bwin... they don't charge you anything for watching but you need to have at least 10 bucks on your account!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:24 PM
HT 0-0
I'm banking on at least conceeding 1 goal in this match. So we might probably have to score 2 goals to ensure a win and with the way we are playing I don't see that happening any time soon
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:26 PM
If we concede we'll lose... in any case, we are certainly not going to score more than one goal in this game! IF we finally score that is...
I'd put Gourcuff on for Seedorf... it's not going to hurts us to try something a little bit different!
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 09:30 PM
I'd put him on for Brocchi.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:30 PM
Brocchi is at least trying...
Anyway... he's a breath of fresh air and we desperately need one!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:31 PM
Carlo is a genius... he surely knows why Brocchi should be played ahead Gourcuff and Emerson...
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:32 PM
I'd put Gourcuff on for Seedorf... it's not going to hurts us to try something a little bit different!
Yep I'd go for that one too, at least Brocchi is running his @ss off out there which is more then can be said for Seedorf
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:33 PM
Carlo is trying his best to get his @ss fired!
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:34 PM
KAKA GOAL. Thank god.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:36 PM
GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can still score! Great move (playing on the shoulder of the last defender) and pass for Kaka... easy goal for him!!
edit: move and pass from Gila!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:36 PM
GOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
RICKY!!!!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:37 PM
It's not on Bwin's site as they have Juve, merda and rome derby games, we're on sunday playing Torino.
And I haven't got anything in my account yet it still works
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:37 PM
Hahahahahaha
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 09:38 PM
tears are coming out of my eyes now knowing i cant watch this match
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:38 PM
Maybe it depends on the country cause I am able to watch it on bwin and I also need to have 10 euro on my account to do so...
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:39 PM
gollllllll.....alberto!!!!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:39 PM
My dream day
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:39 PM
Yeah, but it's not all his fault. his hands are tied with this tiny old squad.
Once again Kaka... the only player who does his job as he should do.
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 09:39 PM
goal??
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 09:39 PM
Thank God!!
2:0
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 09:40 PM
2-0 ???
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:40 PM
And I haven't got anything in my account yet it still works
Isn't it certain locations that aren't able to watch the bwin matches?
I for example cannot watch any streams from their site
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:40 PM
2-0 Gila!!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:40 PM
GOALLLLLLLLLLL
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:40 PM
Okay, this is almost scary. Gila scores (and not just with Alice). Not that I MIND, but...wow.
FORZA GILA!
(I believe that's 5 so far this season. 15 to go before you have to pay up on your bet, Max).
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 09:41 PM
damn... 2-0... good for gila but we need to lose this game.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:41 PM
GILA!
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:42 PM
Not today!!
Gila goal, 2-0!! The guy is on fire!!!!!!!!!
Amazing run and cross by Serginho!!! I missed that...
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:42 PM
Gila! At least got the prediction right.
From nothing.. to absolutely cruising at 2-0.
Any chance of a repeat lazio performance from here..
Gila goal any good?
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:42 PM
Nice cross from Sergio
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:42 PM
I for example cannot watch any streams from their site
It just says not available in Italy.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:43 PM
Don't worry. we'll lose the next one, since it's at San Siro
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:43 PM
we need to what?????
what are you on
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:44 PM
We did score two goals...
Serginho with a stupid mistake at the back... well I didn't miss that too!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:44 PM
Maybe they catagorize malta with Italy since we're so close
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:44 PM
Roma 3-1 Lazio
Great goal by Perrotta
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 09:44 PM
We should move our home ground to Genoa. We won 3:0 there earlier and winning 2:0 now while haven't won at San Siro at all in Serie A
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:45 PM
On a side note... madrid leading valencia 4-0 after 43 minutes..
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 09:46 PM
YEAAAHHHH
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 09:46 PM
GILA AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3:0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:46 PM
3-0!!!!! Gila again!!!!!!
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 09:47 PM
we really need to lose to have the proper changes needed. it's funny how quiet galliani is when we lose, short or words. then when we win, oh we are champions, what a great team we are (EI i'm so so great, loook at the team i've assembled )
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 09:47 PM
great stuff for gila
Posted by: arivanjj Oct 31 2007, 09:47 PM
i can't watch second-half..
Posted by: RED&BLACK Milan Oct 31 2007, 09:47 PM
WOW......to all those Gila bashers....hahaha
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:47 PM
Great goal by Perrotta
Better to say great team work by Roma (not just on the goal, but in the whole match). they're magnificent.
WELL SAID!
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:48 PM
Did someone tell the players that this was a CL game and not a league game? They're putting balls in the net. [/end sarcasm]
Nice free kick from Pirlo.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:48 PM
GOAL!!
Gila again...
Three goals!
Yep saw that! white b!tches are so lucky to play against Valencia at this moment...
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:48 PM
Gila scoring in twos in every other game
Posted by: Il Capitano Oct 31 2007, 09:48 PM
Serginho is a strikers best friend. He's sow good with the crosses.
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:48 PM
)i think they already realise the problems...and wanting your team to lose........very strange indeed whatever your reasons
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:49 PM
That was a sure bet wasn't it.. gila is liking those doubles this season.
Kicking into gear, thats 6 goals to date.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:50 PM
I think the sarcasm is lost on you.
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:50 PM
it must be a midweek thing....move all Serie A games to a tuesday or wednesday!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:51 PM
)I bet he will come out with "we're still in the race... there's a long road ahead".
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:51 PM
i never know what goes through your heads these days!!!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:51 PM
Wow this is great, this is what we want to see. When not doing so good by half time we expect to see the team come out with this type of attitude for the second half.
Great display so far.
Hopefully we'll keep a clean sheet
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:51 PM
Ironically enough they are CL days
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:52 PM
Or 'crisis, what crisis'
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:53 PM
If they still don't buy any players at the end of the season, we're going to be playing in Serie B soon enough, don't worry! I get what you're saying but I still want 4th place...
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:54 PM
Can we now at least keep a clean sheet..
Perfect time to introduce gourcuff into the game, give him 20 or so minutes..
If anything it'll be emerson on.
Great 2nd half boys!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:55 PM
Frustration?
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 09:55 PM
because i know it will help u in the long term. the season isnt so young anymore and really even if we start winning and roma and inter stumble a little, it's not like we arent gonna be perfect. we really need to go on a 7-8 game winning streak to even get close to them. no way we can win the sucdetto so i'm already thinking of next season.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:55 PM
Perfect time to introduce gourcuff into the game, give him 20 or so minutes..
If anything it'll be emerson on.
Just saw gourcuff warming up a couple of minutes ago hopefully we'll see him come on soon
Posted by: Tennie Oct 31 2007, 09:56 PM
!!!!! GOURCUFF on! (Rino off. I'm still wierded out by his lack of beard).
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 09:56 PM
Gila almost with another
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:56 PM
Perfect time to introduce gourcuff into the game, give him 20 or so minutes..
If anything it'll be emerson on.
Now why would carlo want to put Yoann on? don't panic, Emerson will be on soon
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:57 PM
Rino off Yoann on
Posistive move from Carlo.
If we were still 0-0 I would have expected Emerson to come on for Rino. In fact I would have bet my hand on it
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 09:57 PM
Gourcuff on for... Gattuso... what's going on... is Carlo still our coach or did we sign someone else and it evaded me!??
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:57 PM
This really is the perfect 2nd half.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:57 PM
Would love to see him get his first hat trick for Milan
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 09:57 PM
i won't ask what sort?!?!?
i know we all get frustrated, not my fault if i can't understand the concept of wanting my team to lose
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 09:58 PM
Roma 3-2 Lazio
Ledesma freekick, great game
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 09:59 PM
What's the score in the Inter game?
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 09:59 PM
Juve leading empoli 3-0, treza hat-trick.
Inter leading 2-0.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:00 PM
Ledesma freekick, great game
serie a still is great
great free kick i'm watching it live
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 10:01 PM
4:0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gourcuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 10:01 PM
GOURCOFF!!!!!!
bella bella!!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:02 PM
i know we all get frustrated, not my fault if i can't understand the concept of wanting my team to lose
If you want my opinion, I think some people are fed up with listening to BS from galliani and co and hopefully another loss will further pressure the mangement into actually doing something rather than telling us 'nothing's wrong'
And no need for smart comments, I never said I wanted us to lose
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:02 PM
if gourcuff doesnt start next game carlo should be fired.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:02 PM
Glad to see Dida actually looking confident when coming out for arial balls and not flapping at them
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 10:02 PM
GOALALALAAL
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:03 PM
Hardcore Milan!! Why can't we do this week in week out??
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:03 PM
YESS
Get in there Yoann and take your chance
Hopefully he shows Carlo why he deserves more playing time in this game and we'll see him more in the future
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:03 PM
Sh!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I missed that sub
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 10:03 PM
And no need for smart comments, i never said i wanted us to lose
don't believe i said you did
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 10:04 PM
What a stellar 2nd half, very impressive.
Description of the goal please..
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:04 PM
YOANN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:04 PM
Get in there Yoann and take your chance
Hopefully he shows Carlo why he deserves more playing time in this game and we'll see him more in the future
Something tells me Yoann wil be on the bench again against Torino.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:04 PM
that too!
And Serginho played on a very high tempo for 75 minutes... if he's not injured he'll be a great asset from now on!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:05 PM
HOPEFULLY THIS IS REALLY THE TURNING POINT FOR US (THOUGH I'M NOT SURE).
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:05 PM
As long as carlo says yes...
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 10:06 PM
5-0!!!!! oh my god!!!awesome
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 10:06 PM
5:0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEEDORF!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: HasanHasanly Oct 31 2007, 10:06 PM
so this season Milan has a tendency to trash every team after a humiliating defeat?
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:07 PM
Lazio was supposed to be a turning point. Just take it one game at a time.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:07 PM
Of course he will be benched. you think "one goal" will please Carlo?!
Posted by: jefri91 Oct 31 2007, 10:07 PM
OMG GOAL OMGMAGOMAOGMAOGMOA
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 10:07 PM
Cafu in Kaka out
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:07 PM
And Serginho played on a very high tempo for 75 minutes... if he's not injured he'll be a great asset from now on!
Even playing in that midfield spot Ambro usually takes up.
Strikers like Gila live off the types of crosses Sergio feeds him.
When Janku comes back hopefully we'll see them both play on the left against smaller teams. I think they would overlap very well on that side given the chance
Posted by: Minami Oct 31 2007, 10:07 PM
Really imoressive game!!
I would have never even dreamed about 4:0 for us after I read the statistic about Milan-Sampdoris matches....
I'm so happy about this result for now!! 
Grande Milan!!
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:08 PM
Counter attack, Seedorf converges to the center, Gourcuff overlaps him with great speed and send the ball at the roof of the net from a difficult angle. Beautiful goal!
No question about that!
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:08 PM
turning point for what? 4th place?
yeah!!!! i cant wait for the cycel to start over again. i feel that we really need to miss out on CL.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:08 PM
SEEDORF!!!!!!!!!!
This is just fvcking ridiculous, we couldn't score against Empoli and Roma at home while we score 5 against Lazio and now Samp at their respective grounds! WTF is going on?
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 10:09 PM
Grande Milan!
The biggest concern about such a good performance as bigmac mentioned is the way the board interpret the result.
Any chance of a 6th goal..
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:09 PM
Thats more like it
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:09 PM
Seedorf with an assist and a goal. He migth sometimes play like cr@p and not even try to run but he always manages to come up with something good.
btw, has he ever scored with his head for us apart from the goal against Juve in the Berlusconi cup?
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 10:09 PM
Sampdoria haven't conceded at all at home in Serie A until this game.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:11 PM
yeah!!!! i cant wait for the cycel to start over again. i feel that we really need to miss out on CL.I hear what you're saying, it's called bittersweet.
Posted by: HasanHasanly Oct 31 2007, 10:11 PM
seeedorf pass omfg
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:12 PM
Somehow we've managed to turn into a cr@p home team and great away team.
We need to step up our game in the San Siro against Torino on Sunday so we can build a good run of results heading into the tough matches and christmas break
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:13 PM
0-5...
What a joke we are. one BIG win... three disappointing games after that. it repeats like a circle.
what's that mean? INCONSISTENCY. so don't expect win after win after this game.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:16 PM
I love the fact that we win 5-0 when I have no access to the game, yet the two consecutive games I watched on tv we lost 1-0
Perhaps someone is trying to tell me something!
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Oct 31 2007, 10:16 PM
Just enjoy the result as it is, the perfect 2nd half.
Goals galore in serie a tonite.
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 10:18 PM
FT 0:5
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:21 PM
Perhaps someone is trying to tell me something!
That's been the case for me, too!
Maybe our team suffer from stage fright or something... they lose when they are seen by millions around the world...
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:23 PM
Maybe our team suffer from stage fright or something... they lose when they are seen by millions around the world...
teams open up a lil mroe at home, while most teams defend more @ the san siro.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:24 PM
Great second half, a good respnse to the terrible first half we played.
Hopefully we'll see more of this against Torino
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:25 PM
1.We're used to playing every 4 days more than most Serie A teams and
2.Sampdoria were palying at home, they would be jeered if they played the way our opponents usually do at San Siro...
Still, I didn't expect this...
Yes when we were 3-0 up!
We need MUCH more from him...Yup! I still don't get it...
Perhaps someone is trying to tell me something!
You have any idea who that might be??
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:26 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up!
I'm so happy about Gourcuff... even happier than I am about the clean sheet! Yes, that happy!
Posted by: Minami Oct 31 2007, 10:27 PM
Hopefully we'll see more of this against Torino
I really hope so too!!!
After all we need a home victory !!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:27 PM
Roma didn't defend at San Siro.
We should unlock any kind of game, not only tonight's type.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:28 PM
the good news for me is the teams in CL all won today, so milan dint make any advances hehehe
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:29 PM
We should unlock any kind of game, not only tonight's type.
well we are inferior to roma plain and simple.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:30 PM
We need MUCH more from him...Didn't say I was happy with his performance overall. But he had a much better second half, he didn't slow up the play as much and had a part in creating Yoann's goal and Gila's first goal. So it might be an average performance but he can still come up with the goods when he wants to. But it requires an effort from him in order for that to happen and he did that in the second half
I'm so happy about Gourcuff... even happier than I am about the clean sheet! Yes, that happy!
Me neither
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 10:30 PM
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:32 PM
we miss out for one season, put things into perspective. galliani should have no excuses, many changes are made. for ocne we make a realistic challenge for serie a and w're back in CL with a rejuvanated team.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:33 PM
We should unlock any kind of game, not only tonight's type.
Yep
The excuse of teams closing up is getting old. We were just plain terrible against Roma and that's a fact, no way around it.
Just like we were plain terrible today in the first half. and couldn't break samp down, but when we woke up in the second half we managed to destroy them pretty easily.
It all comes down to the fact that our team sometimes can be too lazy and unmotivated to even try to win a match.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:33 PM
I'm so happy about Gourcuff... even happier than I am about the clean sheet! Yes, that happy!
I am as well, I know that we have a very special player in Yoann but we've yet to see the best from him(not all his fault
). Hopefully the goal will have boosted his confidence and carlo will play him more - oh wait, that last bit is ridiculous!
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:34 PM
We should unlock any kind of game, not only tonight's type.
Our defense is too shaky to stop Roma's attacking explosions.
Normally...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:36 PM
The excuse of teams closing up is getting old. We were just plain terrible against Roma and that's a fact, no way around it.
Just like we were plain terrible today in the first half. and couldn't break samp down, but when we woke up in the second half we managed to destroy them pretty easily.
It all comes down to the fact that our team sometimes can be too lazy and unmotivated to even try to win a match.
That is why we have a manager whose job it is is to fire the players up, if they're unmotivated then they must be benched, but carlo won't do that...
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:36 PM
Missing CL football for the season will cause more harm.
We will lose players like Kaka if that happens, and for what? To get a couple of signings.
There is no doubt that major changes will be made this summer since I can see players like:
Cafu
Sergio
Paolo
Pippo
All retiring.
Major changess will be made, it won't be an option any more, to try to hold on to the team we have.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 31 2007, 10:37 PM
..don't play with fire, it can burn you,..
Posted by: mishie Oct 31 2007, 10:38 PM
We will lose players like Kaka if that happens, and for what? To get a couple of signings.
There is no doubt that major changes will be made this summer since I can see players like:
Cafu
Sergio
Paolo
Pippo
All retiring.
Major changess will be made, it won't be an option any more, to try to hold on to the team we have.
the voice of reason
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:38 PM
Yup, I see that too! Winning the CL last season really held us back for this one but this joke should/will stop! I wish it's not only a false hope though!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:38 PM
But that won't help when you only have guys like Brocchi and Simic on the bench and when they come on they are just as unmotivated as the starters.
Imo it all comes back to the fact that we don't have a well equiped squad. If Carlo had a better bench to threaten starters that are under performing with it would help out in the motivation department a hell of a lot more
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:42 PM
Yes that's true. But Carlo should go at the end of the season anyway... people always bring up Milan's history for whatever bad is sad against our players... well on this case, Milan's history says we don't keep coaches for longer than that!
Posted by: bigmacmtl Oct 31 2007, 10:42 PM
of course i believe in that too but galliani hasnt been listen to that voice. the guy and management imo have made a complete mess of things, i dont wanna get into the things they've done in the past but all i know right now is that they've made some completely stupid decisions over the past 2 years.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:43 PM
I can't actually see how missing out on CL football will help us.
We will lose players and money over it. And for what? Just to see Galliani fall on his face? It's not worth it imo. CL football is a must for any big team these days. Missing out on it even for just one season will do more damage then good imo.
That's exactly how I feel about our win in the CL last season. I knew before we won that if we did win it no changes would be made and I was proved right. Galliani will fall back on the fact that we are champions and won't make a move to improve the team.
I'm not devaluing our win, because imo it's one of our best wins considering who we won it against.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:45 PM
Imo it all comes back to the fact that we don't have a well equiped squad. If Carlo had a better bench to threaten starters that are under performing with it would help out in the motivation department a hell of a lot more
Just because they are not as technically gifted as others doesn't mean they're unmotivated - I noticed someone had posted about how Brocchi keeps on running, meaning he is motivated. Now if Rino or Ambro aren't playing well then they should be benched in favour of Brocchi, same for Yoann as he needs play time. Unfortunately carlo keeps his same 11 week after week.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:45 PM
we used to mulct them some time ago... where are those days...The excuse of teams closing up is getting old. We were just plain terrible against Roma and that's a fact, no way around it.
Just like we were plain terrible today in the first half. and couldn't break samp down, but when we woke up in the second half we managed to destroy them pretty easily.
It all comes down to the fact that our team sometimes can be too lazy and unmotivated to even try to win a match.
I think it's a matter of scoring the first goal... then we explode. that's our weak point: scoring the first/second goal(s).
Normally...
That's because their football is too sexy...
Posted by: Minami Oct 31 2007, 10:47 PM
I think that's some of the reasons why no team has won the CL two times in a row!!!
Because they didn't improove their squard, they thaught it would be good enough and so they just did nothing at all....
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 31 2007, 10:47 PM
Brocchi and Simic are unmotivated?? That's a prima voce to me,..
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:47 PM
Yep I believe in that too.I think his cycle has ended and we should get someone new and fresh ideas and visions to take his place. I love Carlo but it's time for change
As I said, changed will have to be made this summer whether Galliani wants to or not. We will be losing half of our defensive line come this summer and most probably Pippo
Those are the areas that need changing and those will be the areas that will be refreshed because of the number of players we will be losing in the summer
As I said losing out on CL footbal will do more harm then good to our club.
We are not Bayern. We can't afford to go through that.
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:47 PM
we used to mulct them some time ago... where are those days...We're not worse than Roma... I'm sure we'd beat them in the CL... but only in the CL... we just don't care to fight as much in Serie A games!
I agree on this 100%!
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 10:50 PM
Nothing to do with what you're trying to say but I think Pippo will go on for one more season after the current one.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 31 2007, 10:52 PM
Me too - Pippo in 08/09- 99% sure. Sergio and Cafu too,..
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 10:54 PM
Bella Milan !!! Grande Milan !!
Hehe .. u spoke too soon
Top class save indeed, and it took a deflection too.
When I saw the line up I thought of u my love
hehe u too ... u spoke to soon
Is he really
I missed him!Hardcore to the bone .. it was supposed to be half a dozen
Maybe it will be week in week out, the team is starting to get back into form ever since Shakhtar and Lazio games
Says a lot, doesn't it
What a joke we are. one BIG win... three disappointing games after that. it repeats like a circle.
what's that mean? INCONSISTENCY. so don't expect win after win after this game.
CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 31 2007, 10:55 PM
I don't actually believe what I'm seeing. Gila is being consistant, we scored 5, didn't conceed, Gourcuff played AND scored. What the hell's going on!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 10:55 PM
How about this: Coco will come out of retirement and sign with Milan for free (Galliani would love that idea). Grimi will be recalled for the LB. Bonera will switch to the right. Digao will become Kaladze's backup, and we'll buy Lucarelli to replace Inzaghi!
I agree on this 100%!
We can beat any team in the CL, let alone Roma.
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 10:56 PM
We truly missed Serginho. At 35 AND unfit, he still got it.
Gilardino has finally started to do what was expected of him. Score decisive goals and carry the team to get a victory. Today's victory was down to Gilardino. He unlocked the game. But he still has a lot of work to do to. And the bet is still on Tennie. And remember, if you lose, you change your user name to Dory. And give me a lap dance.
Gourcuff. I'm 110% sure if he is played consistently, he will surprise MANY. Playing a youngster like him only when the reserve team is playing or the last 10 minutes of a game we are losing is not enough at all. For him to gain real confidence, he needs to be given real chances. Like his CL debut last year. A real chance in a big competition. I really hope the management will show him the same faith the showed Gila.
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 10:56 PM
I was the one that said that about Brocchi. But on other occasions our bench players have played just as cr@p as our starters when given the chance.
Actually we've scored the first goal on more then one occasion this season and still managed to screw it up somehow. Imo it's all in the mindset the players decide to come out and play the game in. If they are in the mood to do it they can easily route a team, but if they decide to jog around a couple of times on the greens they do that too
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 31 2007, 10:58 PM
Because they didn't improove their squard, they thaught it would be good enough and so they just did nothing at all....
But we are the first team in years that won the CL and started the new season without any big changes. Look at Barca, Porto or Liverpool. They've made many changes,..
Posted by: m1ke Oct 31 2007, 10:59 PM
Such a strange season. Is our problem a mental one? We've definitely got the players to produce results like this, we just seem to lack consistency!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 11:00 PM
Yes I did...
but this Milan surprised everyone. it was not expected.CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
In English please!
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 11:01 PM
You wish!
They are first and unstoppable!
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 11:04 PM
We can beat any team in the CL, let alone Roma.
Nice try with the sarcasm
But leave that to porty As for the actual transfers, guys like Paolo, Sergio, Pippo and Cafu won't be replaced with free transfers and cheap knock off. These are INFLUENTIAL players that will be permanently remebered as being a big part of Milan's history.
I firmly believe that these guys will be replaced with worthy players.
Especially Paolo
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:04 PM
They are first and unstoppable!
Hey .. !!
CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
They still have Milan to play
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:05 PM
But leave that to porty As for the actual transfers, guys like Paolo, Sergio, Pippo and Cafu won't be replaced with free transfers and cheap knock off. These are INFLUENTIAL players that will be permanently remebered as being a big part of Milan's history.
I firmly believe that these guys will be replaced with worthy players.
Especially Paolo
Agreed ! It is the Milan way ... It has always been this way
Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2007, 11:06 PM
CHI NON SALTA NEROAZZURRO È, È !!!!!!!
They still have Milan to play
Can't wait for that one
Hopefully we have a good day and they don't wipe the floor with our @sses like they did twice last season
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:07 PM
but this Milan surprised everyone. it was not expected.In English please!
Whoever isn't jumping is a merda
U better start jumping
Posted by: KillerMax Oct 31 2007, 11:07 PM
Somewhere in Italy, Galliani just had an orgasm...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:09 PM
Hopefully we have a good day and they don't wipe the floor with our @sses like they did twice last season
?!
What u talking about ?? Both derbies ended with a 1 goal difference .. They didn't wipe anything but that smirk on their faces when we almost made a comeback from 1-4 to 3-4
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 11:09 PM
In recent games I meant. like Roma game.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:12 PM
Nope form ... Milan just got into gear ... The game against Roma was (as a conspiracy theorist that I am
) a gift from us to them to keep up the heat on the merda .. As predicted this is the time when Milan usually start running on all 12 cylinders ... 4th place here we come
Posted by: Locke Lamora Oct 31 2007, 11:13 PM
What can I say?
Fantastic display by Milan, although this means Milan will lose the next game 0-1.
Posted by: weeeow Oct 31 2007, 11:18 PM
see what did I tell everyone!
Don't worry be happy - Bob Marley
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:18 PM
Fantastic display by Milan, although this means Milan will lose the next game 0-1.
Hey ... Enjoy the moment !!!
What does it take to impress u ?!
Milan completely dominated on a pitch where it has never NEVER won with 5 goals ! It was a difficult pitch, but Milan's class dominated
U should listen to weeeow's advice ...
Don't worry be happy - Bob Marley
Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 31 2007, 11:20 PM
But leave that to porty As for the actual transfers, guys like Paolo, Sergio, Pippo and Cafu won't be replaced with free transfers and cheap knock off. These are INFLUENTIAL players that will be permanently remebered as being a big part of Milan's history.
I firmly believe that these guys will be replaced with worthy players.
Especially Paolo
I know
I was just kidding. but I won't completely rule it out! U better start jumping
Aha...
Well, I'm still not optimistic about the derby tbh... they are playing consistently unlike us.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:21 PM
Well, I'm still not optimistic about the derby tbh... they are playing consistently unlike us.
I am still holding that against u
U don't need to remind me
Posted by: misha Oct 31 2007, 11:29 PM
R7 you are way too happy. If we lose the next game then this game means nothing (just like the Lazio game). We need to show some consistency and hopefully we can build on this game.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:32 PM
I am way to happy ?? Of course I am, my team won today
The men on the field won it today !! They did it with sweat and blood. They were class !! This is Milan. Is it strange ? Don't think so
Posted by: dst Oct 31 2007, 11:40 PM
So it is true that we play good football only every other game... let's just hope that all the CL games and the two Milan derbies get to be on the "other section"...
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Oct 31 2007, 11:44 PM
I hope we can show some consistency now. I dont want this to be another Lazio
Posted by: rhy_A4 Oct 31 2007, 11:48 PM
dam i need the highlights !!!! sky italia
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 31 2007, 11:56 PM
What u need to do is turn on ur playstation
Posted by: rhy_A4 Nov 1 2007, 12:08 AM
lol i dont get it
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 12:13 AM
hehe ohh u'll be getting it real soon, once u get the highlights
Posted by: rhy_A4 Nov 1 2007, 12:25 AM
pro evo goals you meen
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 12:36 AM
haha
Posted by: Tennie Nov 1 2007, 12:42 AM
Here are datasport's ratings, for those who are interested in such things:
EDITED to include rough English translations, for those who don't read Italian and want to know what Datasport said. (specially for you, Jack)
MILAN
Dida 6.5 - Una sola parata, ma fondamentale, nel primo tempo. Per il resto ordinaria amministrazione e tanta sicurezza. [One save, but a fundamental one, in the first half.]
Bonera 6.5 - Una buona prova del difensore rossonero, che ha saputo arginare perfettamente gli attaccanti avversari. [A good game for the rossoneri defender, who knew how to keep the opposing strikers in check.]
Cafu s.v. - Anche per lui serata piu` da spettatore che da protagonista. [For him, a game more as a spectator than as a protagonist.]
Nesta 6.5 - Se la Samp non ha sfondato il muro difensivo rossonero, gran merito e` anche suo, puntuale e presente in ogni azione. [If Samp didn't crush the rossoneri defensive wall, it's greatly to his credit, punctual and present on every play.]
Kaladze 6 - Una grande occasione nel primo tempo, poi ordinaria amministrazione. Veste anche la fascia di capitano quando esce Gattuso. [A good chance in the first half, afterwards business as usual. Wore the captain's armband when Gattuso was subbed.]
Simic s.v. - Mai impegnato dagli avversari nei pochi minuti disputati. [Never engaged the adversaries in the few minutes he played.]
Kaka` 6.5 - Un gol e qualche sgroppata bastano per far male alla Sampdoria. [A goal and some fancy play enough to make Samp look bad.]
Gourcuff 6 - Un gol segnato e uno sbagliato clamorosamente. Comunque una prova positiva, bagnata dalla marcatura. Nel finale un `giallo` che si poteva evitare. [A goal scored and a bad mistake (?). All in all, a positive game. At the end a yellow that could've been avoided.]
Pirlo 6 - Una bella punizione, un assist poi non concretizzato, per una serata senza squilli ma comunque positiva. [A nice free kick, an assist that didn't result in a goal, for an evening without goals but overall positive.]
Seedorf 7.5 - Sempre da gustare con le sue movenze felpate. Anche a `Marassi` un gol e un assist per fare felici gli amanti del bel gioco. E tanta tanta qualita`. [Always tasteful with his plushy movements. Also at the Marassi a goal and an assist for those who love the beautiful game. A lot of quality.]
Gattuso 6 - Prosegue il periodo non eccelso del `ringhio` nazionale. Prestazione sufficiente, ma certamente non indimenticabile. [Not the period of the Ringhio of the Naizonale. A sufficient performance but not unforgettable.]
Brocchi 7 - Chi gioca di meno rischia di fare maggiormente brutte figure. Chiamato da Ancelotti, Brocchi risponde alla grande, servendo anche un assist al bacio per il quinto gol. [Those who play less often play badly. Called up ty Ancelotti, Brocchi responds grandly, with an excellent assist for the fifth goal.]
Serginho 7 - Quasi dimenticato, quando entra e inserisce il suo vecchio turbo diventa il giocatore `in piu`` di questo Milan. La sua classe e le sue discese sono il `valore aggiunto` dei rossoneri. [Almost forgotten, when this old player plays, he becomes the 'extra' player of this Milan. His class is the added value of the rossoneri.]
Gilardino 8 - Finalmente il Gilardino che ti aspetteresti ma che di solito non c`e`: lotta, costruisce, difende palla e segna. Due gol e un assist per lui, la spina nel fianco della Sampdoria. Decisivo [Finally, the Gilardino that we waited for, but not only that: fights, defends teh ball, marks, and scores. Two goals and an assist for him, the thorn in the side of Sampdoria. Decisive.]
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 1 2007, 12:57 AM
) a gift from us to them to keep up the heat on the merda .. As predicted this is the time when Milan usually start running on all 12 cylinders ... 4th place here we come
you sound like a merda, then again at least merda are proud about finishing 3rd.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 01:06 AM
Carlo Ancelotti thinks he has found the key to Milan’s problems. “It’s all about breaking the deadlock.â€
The Rossoneri are yet to win on home turf in Serie A this season, but have now scored 10 goals in their last two away games, including tonight’s 5-0 demolition of Sampdoria.
“This victory proves that matches are decided by incidents. At home we struggle to break the deadlock and then things get complicated,†reasoned the Coach.
“That is the key, as once you score a goal the space opens up for you. In the first half we played well, putting Sampdoria under pressure.â€
There was however some tension – possibly sparked by the recent dismal results – when Kaka appeared to argue with Ancelotti on the touchline.
“We talk about the position on the field and he knows where he needs to play. Kaka was asking to go a bit deeper, but we wanted to force the play up starting from the wings instead.â€
Alberto Gilardino scored a brace and Nelson Dida kept his side afloat in the first half, silencing some of his critics.
“When it was still 0-0 he was fantastic. He has gone through a difficult time, but that save restored his pride.â€
Football Italia
I think Carlo had his tactics right today, as always .. But Serginho should take some praise too .. As he assisted both of Gila's goals.
And Dida, was really class tonight, some who remember him from several years ago, know what I'm talking about
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 1 2007, 01:10 AM
See... I don't think breaking the deadlock is the problem at all. As han mentioned, we broke the deadlock in previous games and still lost or drew. It's more to do with motivation and determination. And having a stable defense and a solid Dida and Gila helps too. Though, I'm not counting on their consistency.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Nov 1 2007, 01:11 AM
Serginho is an amazing crosser maybe its him weve been really missing , Jankulovski is amazing to can he play on the right ?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 01:26 AM
If u see Gila's second goal Max .. He was really confident on the ball. And Dida's first half display was just Grand !! But consistency ? Well my theory is, if the team as a whole play the way they did, the players will be even more determined to do more.
And about the deadlock thing ..What Carlo was referring to was opening up defenses after the first goal, then ending the game like Gila's 2nd and 3rd ... Gila is on fire atm !!
p.s. It was all in a 35 yr old, Serginho .. Old huh
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 1 2007, 01:31 AM
Yes. Constant injuries and low stamina are the effects of it. I'm one of his biggest fans actually.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Nov 1 2007, 01:40 AM
trouble is its so true what Carlo said they defend when they come to San Siro, all we need now is the key for that now, 4th spot is ours in my opinion even 3rd
Posted by: arivanjj Nov 1 2007, 01:59 AM
besides an amazing second-half performance... i think Oddo and Janku should take lessons from Segrio
FORAZ MILAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 02:10 AM
Experience my friend, experience
He is decisive after being almost 8 months out ... Now imagine him in a couple of more games
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 1 2007, 04:01 AM
Tennie mah dear, you'll have to speak English with the ratings. I know u usually post datasport ratings in Italian, but that was a lot of Italian at one go.
Heh heh....Carlo's read my monster post I guess... I knew Sergio and R99 were key. Of course now I'm hoping R99 can pick up from where he left off last season.
And now I'm beginning to think, it's not our defence is lousy per se. They just seem to lose it under the constant pressure of a 0-0 or a 1-0 down.
Posted by: Tennie Nov 1 2007, 04:24 AM
Datasport post duly edited to include rough translations, just for you Jack
Posted by: MizNelson Nov 1 2007, 04:45 AM
Don't worry be happy - Bob Marley
Bobby McFerrin, you mean.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 1 2007, 05:13 AM
And about the deadlock thing ..What Carlo was referring to was opening up defenses after the first goal, then ending the game like Gila's 2nd and 3rd ... Gila is on fire atm !!
p.s. It was all in a 35 yr old, Serginho .. Old huh
yep old, thats why we only see these old player for 5 games a year.
funny how quiet you are when we dont win
Posted by: han2503 Nov 1 2007, 01:50 PM
What u talking about ?? Both derbies ended with a 1 goal difference .. They didn't wipe anything but that smirk on their faces when we almost made a comeback from 1-4 to 3-4
Come on R7 yes we managed to make it 3-4 in the first derby but if Matrix hadn't been shown red we would have stayed with the same result ie 4-1. Inter were far better then us in that game, you can't deny that
And in the second derby, we only managed to keep up with them for 30 minutes then it was all Inter.
They deserved to win both games, simple as that.
And games against Parma haven't been that far back either and in those games we managed to score in a great time (just before half time) but still managed to screw it up.
Imo it's all about the mindset the player come out to play in
Posted by: Locke Lamora Nov 1 2007, 03:13 PM
What does it take to impress u ?!
I AM impressed.
Posted by: Portikins Nov 1 2007, 03:50 PM
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 05:47 PM
And in the second derby, we only managed to keep up with them for 30 minutes then it was all Inter.
They deserved to win both games, simple as that.
Football is a 90 min game, u win .. u loose .. end of. But the moral of my argument is that we weren't humiliated. If so, then what do u call the 6-0
han .. I believe that Milan weren't even trying in the derby, and even with that we came out of the match with heads held high. Milan wasn't in the title race since the very beginning! What motivation do the players have to come in and beat inter ? Now, had we faced inter in the CL, in a crucial make or break tie, with them fielding their strongest XI, Milan would teach them a lesson on football. This same case could be implemented in the derby, IF Milan had a chance of topping the table at the time .. With or without Matrix
p.s. last season isn't a reference point at all, it was a handicapped season! you want to judge, judge this season .. 23 Dec.
Posted by: misha Nov 1 2007, 06:01 PM
Come on. It's a derby. Weren't even trying? We were outplayed and there is no need to make up excuses. Motivation? You don't need motivation for the derby. The player are fired up just from the importance,history and the crowd and other thing that I'm sure you know. In that spicific time tInter was in much better shape and deserved to beat us. The fact that we made a little come back in the end when they were left with 10 player doesn't make me feel better about that game.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 1 2007, 06:02 PM
To not try in a derby is a sin, and is completely disrespectful to their fans.
Posted by: Tennie Nov 1 2007, 06:11 PM
I disagree that they weren't trying in the first of last year's derbies (the 3-2). The second half of that game was one of the best 45 minutes of football I've seen. Milan - and remember this was in the middle of the injury crisis with almost half the team hurt - fought like lions and I honestly believe that if the game had gone another couple of minutes, they'd have gotten an equalizer or maybe even won.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 06:14 PM
Explain to me what Milan did against United ? A team which is much more intact and cohesive than inter ?!
This is what i mean, don't derail my point ... understand what i'm saying first. Milan never stood a chance, whether Milan won or lost, it doesn't make much of a difference in terms of doing anything in the league. Whilst, when Milan has a shot at something (i.e. CL final or 1st place finish) Milan will play with intense humiliation. As we have all seen, in previous situations where Milan almost always prevails.
Oh I know the importance of the derby ... I know it well, but last season wasn't an honest season. It was handicapped. And if we fans think like this, waht do u expect from the players ..
p.s. inter have a strong bench, that i will give to them. but they don't have a better first XI than Milan; and only 11 players play for each side not 23!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 06:15 PM
The whol eof last season was a sin .. where were u !!
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 1 2007, 06:23 PM
if we beat them 6-0 recently then fine we could bring it up but jesus it's 6-7 years and we have 2 completely diff teams now so that has no relevance for right now.
then if thats true none of them deserve to play for us, thats if it was true
lemme see, inter dominated us both games besides a lil spell where we had an extra attacker by a follish red card? we we're lucky not to lose by more goals.
that comment is so stupid, any milan fan looks @ that and just has to laugh. besides that we we'rent so far inter when we played them for the first time last season, a win would have given us hope besides the fact that we could of hurt their title chances by beating them.
i mean it's a s simple as that, for the stakes to be high and we easily win
you truly are ignorant and arrogant.
Posted by: gal_kenny Nov 1 2007, 06:26 PM
Guys I wanna watch the highlight b/w sampdoria and AC Milan..I didn't watch d match..HOw can i watch it..Can anyone provide a link or sumthin pls?
Posted by: misha Nov 1 2007, 06:26 PM
This is what i mean, don't derail my point ... understand what i'm saying first. Milan never stood a chance, whether Milan won or lost, it doesn't make much of a difference in terms of doing anything in the league. Whilst, when Milan has a shot at something (i.e. CL final or 1st place finish) Milan will play with intense humiliation. As we have all seen, in previous situations where Milan almost always prevails.
Oh I know the importance of the derby ... I know it well, but last season wasn't an honest season. It was handicapped. And if we fans think like this, waht do u expect from the players ..
p.s. inter have a strong bench, that i will give to them. but they don't have a better first XI than Milan; and only 11 players play for each side not 23!
Did you read my post? The Inter game was in November when we were in really bad shappe, injured players and many more problems we all aware of. We were playing bad in CL group stage as well. The United game were in complitely different time, after Ronaldo and Oddo have made a change in a team, the injured players returned and in both Seria A and CL Milan played great and the key player were in very good shape. When we played Inter the motivatin wasn't the problem (it never the probllem against Inter). The team just was rightfully outplayed by Inter. Had we played the United back then we would have lost as well.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 1 2007, 06:33 PM
we tend forget man u had several key players in def missing against us.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 1 2007, 06:35 PM
Ok, yes i read ur previous post ... *now look what uv done dst !!*
Well, my point was, again, Milan weren't playing inter for the league ... while inter were playing Milan for the league ..
ok i'll try again, The team know that even if they beat inter home and away, Milan would still be far off. Now, Milan played inter again last season where it ended 2-1 for inter .. Milan had most of it's players back from injury plus Oddo and R99 and still Milan didn't win .. why ? cuz even if we did win. what difference would it make. Had Milan been in the title race and no calciopoli and all that cr@p, we wouldn't even be discussing inter, but laughing at them
Posted by: misha Nov 1 2007, 06:40 PM
In the return game in San Siro we were better than brilliant. You don't see that kinda display too often and no team could have beat as on that night. In San Siro only Ferdinad was missing if I remember correctly
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 1 2007, 06:42 PM
evra, neville also and vidic wasnt even match fit. and yess it was brilliany perfomance, but if we we're missing nesta, janku and oddo... the excuses would be raining down.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 1 2007, 06:50 PM
han .. I believe that Milan weren't even trying in the derby, and even with that we came out of the match with heads held high. Milan wasn't in the title race since the very beginning! What motivation do the players have to come in and beat inter ? Now, had we faced inter in the CL, in a crucial make or break tie, with them fielding their strongest XI, Milan would teach them a lesson on football. This same case could be implemented in the derby, IF Milan had a chance of topping the table at the time .. With or without Matrix
p.s. last season isn't a reference point at all, it was a handicapped season! you want to judge, judge this season .. 23 Dec.
As mishale said here R7 ^^^^^ In that game we played terrible and a team always tries in a derby, it's a sin not to. We were just completely and toally outplayed in that game, there is no way of looking at that game in a positive perspective because even that come back stemmed from the fact that we had a man advantage on them.
I know you look at Milan through rose tinted glasses because you love the team, I have no question about that, but sometimes no matter how much you love your team it deserves to be crititces especially when they don't play up to par. And saying that they weren't even trying to cover up for there totally horrific display in every game we lose or draw is not good enough.
They only played like lions when they were a man up, as I previously said, if Matrix hadn't been sent off we wouldn't have managed to come back and make that score a respectable one.
The fact that we were totally being outplayed when we were 11 vs 11 shouldn't be over looked
This is what i mean, don't derail my point ... understand what i'm saying first. Milan never stood a chance, whether Milan won or lost, it doesn't make much of a difference in terms of doing anything in the league. Whilst, when Milan has a shot at something (i.e. CL final or 1st place finish) Milan will play with intense humiliation. As we have all seen, in previous situations where Milan almost always prevails.
Oh I know the importance of the derby ... I know it well, but last season wasn't an honest season. It was handicapped. And if we fans think like this, waht do u expect from the players ..
p.s. inter have a strong bench, that i will give to them. but they don't have a better first XI than Milan; and only 11 players play for each side not 23!
The United game is a different one and we won't be able to try that out against Inter since I doubt they will go that far in the CL any time soon
As for United, they are a totally different team to Inter but with that said I think last season's united and last season's Inter when on a par with each other in terms of how good they were.
And the 8 points penalty didn't male them give up on the scudetto last year, in fact I remeber more then once players coming out and making statements that they still believed in the scudetto. What ruined our chances was the fact that we drew nearly every game from the first half of the season and also lost some.
When we played Inter we were still ing with a chance so motivation about the fact that we were out of the running shouldn't count since that derby came when it was still too early to throw in the towel
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