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post Nov 22 2020, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 22 2020, 10:54 PM) *
Meh, I'm not worrying about the beautiful football, it will come again just like it did last season. The most important thing right now is that we're winning games, even difficult ones that we wouldn't have won in a million years before.


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Football is about winning. Titles are about winning.

But the Ibra loss is a big issue - he's our quarterback and losing him could well change things a lot.
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post Yesterday, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 23 2020, 01:18 AM) *
Tonight was Milan's first win in Naples since October 2010 - a 2-1 victory in which Zlatan Ibrahimović also scored. (Sky Italia)


All these 2010 Scudetto mirrors are giving me vibes I don't even want to think about


I'm already a happy happy man with this win. Imagine a scudetto!
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post Yesterday, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 23 2020, 12:51 AM) *
Wow, never thought we'd win this. Last time we beat Napoli at the San Paolo was in 2010.

It was an ugly match by all means, but I've come to accept the fact that we'll never play great football as we are right now. We're just that cynical team that goes for the 3 points in the most difficult way possible, but at least so far it's working.

And yeah, that looked bad for Ibra. Could be out a couple of weeks.


I agree. I mean there is something definitely wierd about it. We never seemed in control of the game. But, we made it count when it mattered. Party due to Ibra, but also Theo and Rebic feeding him these balls. I don't know what I would change exactly, it's a tough one though. (Probably Hakan) Romagnoli should have done better on that goal. I would have thought he'd improve with age. But for me, he seems to be regressing. Always too worried about the fouls and complaining. On the other side, Kjaer is pure class. I really loved that goal by Hauge. BUT, it is clear he is still a bit lost and hasn't yet fully geled with the team. This could only come with training and playtime.

Anyway, let's see what happens with Ibra, this will be a huge factor going forward.

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post Yesterday, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Nov 23 2020, 12:11 AM) *
I agree. I mean there is something definitely wierd about it. We never seemed in control of the game. But, we made it count when it mattered. Party due to Ibra, but also Theo and Rebic feeding him these balls. I don't know what I would change exactly, it's a tough one though. (Probably Hakan) Romagnoli should have done better on that goal. I would have thought he'd improve with age. But for me, he seems to be regressing. Always too worried about the fouls and complaining. On the other side, Kjaer is pure class. I really loved that goal by Hauge. BUT, it is clear he is still a bit lost and hasn't yet fully geled with the team. This could only come with training and playtime.

Anyway, let's see what happens with Ibra, this will be a huge factor going forward.


Agreed about Romagnoli. I wouldn't say he has regressed, but he certainly hasn't improved as much as I had wished for. He's been making some notable mistakes recently.

Kjaer is definitely the better of the two at this point. A true leader, so good at decision-making, very few mistakes. We certainly hit jackpot with his signing.

As for Hauge, like I said earlier his goal was a marquee goal. He has a tough defender like Manolas ahead, but the way he feints his body movement and then accelerates was top class. It reminded me of Kaka's goal against Boca Juniors in some way.

But he hasn't gelled with the rest of the team, I agree. He doesn't understand the mechanisms yet and how to move in the pitch. That can only come with playing time.
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post Yesterday, 07:48 AM
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Serie A table is hot at the top, 2nd place are 2 points away, 3rd are 3 points and 4th are 4 points away.

I don't like this Scudetto talk coming out of the official representatives of the club. Team should stay humble and work to achieve the ultimate target that it can by season end. No expectations, so whatever is delivered will make me happy.
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It doesn't matter what management says. What matters is how the players feel. If they believe they can sustain these results in the long run, then why shouldn't we consider the Scudetto? If anything, that's an extra ambition that can only be a positive thing.

If we play games with the mentality that all we need is a 3rd or 4th spot, we'll eventually lose points where we think it's not necessary. Like the game vs Napoli. Or Inter. The fact we beat those two title contenders both away should mean something. We almost beat Roma as well.

And at the end of the day, if we don't win the Scudetto then it won't be the end of the world cos at least we'd have still achieved our goal, i.e. CL qualification. That's the advantage of being an underdog. You don't feel the pressure like title contenders do.
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Hamstring injury for Zlatan, 10 days of recovery after which he will be re-evaluated. I expect him to return after two weeks, so he'll most definitely miss the games vs Fiorentina and Sampdoria, and make his return vs Parma on 13 December.

Saelemaekers also out for an ankle injury.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 22 2020, 11:24 PM) *
+1

Football is about winning. Titles are about winning.

But the Ibra loss is a big issue - he's our quarterback and losing him could well change things a lot.

Agreed, but I also think it matters how you are able to achieve it, at least for Milan it does. I look at Juve for example, they are a soulless machine that romped to the title 9 straight times without barely any competition while playing some really terrible football along the way. I personally like the fact that whenever we've won titles, we've done it by playing memorable football

Of course, I'm not going to complain that we're winning, and I don't agree that we're playing badly either, that 2nd goal for example was a quintessential move since the turn of the year. I just don't think we're pressing with the same kind of intensity we saw last summer post lockdown and we're not as sharp in our passing, but all of this can be improved upon. We still press a lot, I don't see us parking the bus for example, even last night when Napoli had most of the possession, we defended by pressing them and forcing errors. And even though they did control most of the game, I was never really that worried about conceding.

The Ibra injury is a huge blow no doubt, but thankfully it comes when we're facing relatively weaker teams, so we should still be able to pull through without him

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 23 2020, 07:48 AM) *
Serie A table is hot at the top, 2nd place are 2 points away, 3rd are 3 points and 4th are 4 points away.

I don't like this Scudetto talk coming out of the official representatives of the club. Team should stay humble and work to achieve the ultimate target that it can by season end. No expectations, so whatever is delivered will make me happy.

I don't really see any Scudetto talk from the club, who is talking about the Scudetto?

But honestly, if that is the players' aspiration, even better, it means that this team has belief. Setting low expectations for ourselves has really helped us to achieve big goals in the past... #sarcasm

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It doesn't matter what management says. What matters is how the players feel. If they believe they can sustain these results in the long run, then why shouldn't we consider the Scudetto? If anything, that's an extra ambition that can only be a positive thing.

If we play games with the mentality that all we need is a 3rd or 4th spot, we'll eventually lose points where we think it's not necessary. Like the game vs Napoli. Or Inter. The fact we beat those two title contenders both away should mean something. We almost beat Roma as well.

And at the end of the day, if we don't win the Scudetto then it won't be the end of the world cos at least we'd have still achieved our goal, i.e. CL qualification. That's the advantage of being an underdog. You don't feel the pressure like title contenders do.

Agreed completely.

That Roma game burn more than the Verona one, we lost points there due to a false positive on Donna's covid test

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Hamstring injury for Zlatan, 10 days of recovery after which he will be re-evaluated. I expect him to return after two weeks, so he'll most definitely miss the games vs Fiorentina and Sampdoria, and make his return vs Parma on 13 December.

Saelemaekers also out for an ankle injury.

I read it will probably be 3 to 4 weeks...
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 23 2020, 05:27 PM) *
Agreed, but I also think it matters how you are able to achieve it, at least for Milan it does. I look at Juve for example, they are a soulless machine that romped to the title 9 straight times without barely any competition while playing some really terrible football along the way. I personally like the fact that whenever we've won titles, we've done it by playing memorable football


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