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post Nov 18 2016, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 17 2016, 09:50 PM) *
True, but if that were the case Ibra would have left Paris earlier, rather than just going to United for free (for example) Sure he made a pile of cash from the Pogba sale, but that's not the case for all his players

He gets a cut out of any wages his players make so getting them the best contract, no matter where they're playing is also an important factor

Like I said, I personally think that this all comes down to the will of the player, if Donna wants to stay, he'll stay, no matter what is whispered in his ear. If he wants to go, he'll go

Looks like Chelsea will offer a huge salary
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post Nov 18 2016, 02:26 PM
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I'm also with Han in saying that Romag should be untouchable. At the moment he is one of the world's best young defenders, he may never make it to the level of Nesta but that doesn't matter he is a rock at the back and this team needs to build a good spine if we are to ever challenge again. We can clear all of the dead wood if we need money but to sell our core young players turns us into a feeder team. The best teams don't sell their best and brightest unless they can do so and improve, and with the lack of quality young defenders out there, it's much better to be a have, than a have not.

If we need money, Bacca should be the first lamb to go. He could easily fetch 25 - 30M on the market. He is far too one dimensional and his attitude sucks. He is a good finisher, but if the team can create opportunities, then anyone can become a great striker. He adds nothing to build up play, his passing is horrible, and he often makes stupid unforced errors, plus he is at his peak.

I know it was said before but Belotti is really starting to come into his own. I think he will be a star. He is physically very capable and he can play off of another striker while also creating his own opportunities. But, he will come with a hefty price tag. Perhaps we can sweeten the deal with one of our players going the other way but I can't see him coming for less than 35- 40M, which at this point seems out of our price range. I know he isn't capable of being our star but Petagna has also been having a good season with Atalanta, perhaps he can come back here if we get rid of Adriano and Bacca.
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post Nov 18 2016, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Nov 18 2016, 08:04 AM) *
In general, I agree with what you say. However, we will not get infinite money, at least not right away, so we will have to do some selling (preferable Bacca and not Romagnoli).

I'm not saying we should be spending cash around like it's going out of style ala PSG, City, Monaco (when they had the funds). But let's be smart about it. I don't think we'll have free flowing cash, no matter how much we're hoping that will be the case. But I do think we're going to be financially secure enough to be able to resist offers for our best players and won't be in the current desperate situation where we sell our best players to balance the books at the end of the year.

So, what I am expecting from the new owners is to build slowly on the good young foundation we've managed to build. I think we'll do better when it comes time to removing some of the unnecessary baggage we're still carrying around and we'll do better with selling our decent players (which aren't really part of our plans) and making sure we earn decent cash for them (Bacca, Adriano, Poli, Kucka, etc) If we start selling these guys gradually and replace them with better quality players then we'll be on the right track without having to break the bank

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Nov 18 2016, 10:43 AM) *

Meh, there's a new rumour every day about Donna. He's basically the best young keeper around and is still at an age where it's easier to get him since he doesn't have a fully professional contract (I think this is why we haven't offered a concrete deal yet). Once he turns 18 and we tie him down to an iron clad contract that makes both him and his agent happy, these rumours will die down

Look I have to believe that Donna is in the club's long term plans. It's the reason why we let Lopez leave on loan with basically only Gabriel being our other option. I don't think they would have been so cavalier about the situation had they had even an inkling that he will move.
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post Nov 18 2016, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (maldini03 @ Nov 18 2016, 02:26 PM) *
I'm also with Han in saying that Romag should be untouchable. At the moment he is one of the world's best young defenders, he may never make it to the level of Nesta but that doesn't matter he is a rock at the back and this team needs to build a good spine if we are to ever challenge again. We can clear all of the dead wood if we need money but to sell our core young players turns us into a feeder team. The best teams don't sell their best and brightest unless they can do so and improve, and with the lack of quality young defenders out there, it's much better to be a have, than a have not.

If we need money, Bacca should be the first lamb to go. He could easily fetch 25 - 30M on the market. He is far too one dimensional and his attitude sucks. He is a good finisher, but if the team can create opportunities, then anyone can become a great striker. He adds nothing to build up play, his passing is horrible, and he often makes stupid unforced errors, plus he is at his peak.

I know it was said before but Belotti is really starting to come into his own. I think he will be a star. He is physically very capable and he can play off of another striker while also creating his own opportunities. But, he will come with a hefty price tag. Perhaps we can sweeten the deal with one of our players going the other way but I can't see him coming for less than 35- 40M, which at this point seems out of our price range. I know he isn't capable of being our star but Petagna has also been having a good season with Atalanta, perhaps he can come back here if we get rid of Adriano and Bacca.

Agreed completely
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post Nov 19 2016, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 19 2016, 12:40 AM) *
I'm not saying we should be spending cash around like it's going out of style ala PSG, City, Monaco (when they had the funds). But let's be smart about it. I don't think we'll have free flowing cash, no matter how much we're hoping that will be the case. But I do think we're going to be financially secure enough to be able to resist offers for our best players and won't be in the current desperate situation where we sell our best players to balance the books at the end of the year.

So, what I am expecting from the new owners is to build slowly on the good young foundation we've managed to build. I think we'll do better when it comes time to removing some of the unnecessary baggage we're still carrying around and we'll do better with selling our decent players (which aren't really part of our plans) and making sure we earn decent cash for them (Bacca, Adriano, Poli, Kucka, etc) If we start selling these guys gradually and replace them with better...


That is what got you disappointed in the first place, my recommendation is not to expect from the management and use the clubs financial statement as a guage in if we are growing or imploding as it really is simply just a function of that.

As for romagnoli, he ain't exactly Nesta and we have sold better players when we were at a much higher standard than today (ie Shevchenko). Dont get me wrong Id like to keep him and add one more, but if an offer of 50-60 came in, even Nesta would be sold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 19 2016, 06:48 AM) *
That is what got you disappointed in the first place, my recommendation is not to expect from the management and use the clubs financial statement as a guage in if we are growing or imploding as it really is simply just a function of that.

As for romagnoli, he ain't exactly Nesta and we have sold better players when we were at a much higher standard than today (ie Shevchenko). Dont get me wrong Id like to keep him and add one more, but if an offer of 50-60 came in, even Nesta would be sold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This is the thinking that got us into this mess imo

No, we shouldn't sell our best players.

Look at Juve, they sold their best, but why? Vidal wanted to go and so did Pogba. When the players were still willing to stay that resisted offers. And this is basically the case for all the big clubs, they keep their stars. They don't sell them off to the first bidder


And selling Nesta for 60m in today's market would be unthinkable. Come on now! He's one of the greatest defenders to ever play the game. For me (as a CB) he's better than Paolo, better than Canna and all the other modern era CBs playing right now.
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post Nov 24 2016, 07:30 PM
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Fabrizio Romano: William Carvalho has been proposed to Milan and Juve by his entourage. He has a €45m release clause, but Sporting could listen to offers of €35m.

Ajax and Bazoer have reached an agreement on a transfer fee. The midfielder is allowed to leave the club in January for €13m. #DeTelegraaf

Valencia are interested in Bacca according to Mundo Deportivo.

Donnarumma's brother: "Gigio won't leave Milan for any club in the world. He is really happy with the Rossoneri."

Possible swap Sosa-Sneijder between Milan & Galatasaray. #Fotosport

Galliani met Belotti's agent in recent days. #QSSport

Berlusconi: "The Chinese asked me to stay as an honourary president to benefit from my experience."

Berlusconi: "In order to remain as a honorary president I want to have a say on the market and tactics."

Berlusconi for GdS: "December 13th all will be closed. On that day Milan will be sold, or I'll take it back."

Milan targets for January:
Milan Badelj
Matias Vecino
Ruben Semedo
Victor Lindelof
Mateo Kovacic
Isco

[ManuBaio].

Fenerbahce are interested in signing Jose Sosa in January and have already initiated contacts with Milan. #Fotomac

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post Nov 24 2016, 08:49 PM
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My God. Silvio needs to shut that ugly trap of his!

He can't take anything back, it's out of his hands, Fininvest won't allow it under any circumstances at this point, they've been waiting for this moment for years.

And no, an honorary president won't get a say in the transfer market let alone the tactics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This guy has really gone senile
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post Nov 25 2016, 05:52 AM
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It's funny how the two things he wants to do the most are the two things we crib about the most when it comes to him.
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post Nov 25 2016, 07:26 AM
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Milan are interested in signing Santi Cazorla. His contract expires in June 2017. #MundoDeportivo


The players Mirabelli has scouted:
Rudy
Bazoer

Badelj
Fabregas
Ruben Semedo
Ricardo Rodriguez
Keita
Paredes

Krejčí
Tielemans
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Those in bold are my personal favorites, but lets see what happens.

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post Nov 25 2016, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Nov 24 2016, 08:30 PM) *
Fabrizio Romano: William Carvalho has been proposed to Milan and Juve by his entourage. He has a €45m release clause, but Sporting could listen to offers of €35m.

I'm guessing he'll end up at Juve, but I would love this. Probably the biggest reason, alongside Ronaldo, as to why Portugal won the Euros. He's a monster.
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post Nov 25 2016, 04:09 PM
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Mirabelli has attended 14 games and observed 32 players:
Fabregas, Bazoer, Isco, Badelj, Keita, De Vrij, Bernardeschi, Vecino, Tielemans, Dolberg, Semedo, Carvalho, Nelson Martins, Kovacic, Mahrez, Tadic, Alexis Sanchez, Kjaer, Ricardo Rodriguez, Sule, Rudy, Gnabry, Tolisso, Fekir, Mammana, Papu Gomez, Conti, Kessie, Joao Pedro, Paredes, Krejci, Belotti.
#CorSport

Mr. Bee was in Milano and had a meeting with Berlusconi at Arcore. #CorSera

Bacca has a verbal agreement with Milan that in case of the arrival of a €30m offer he would leave. PSG remain interested [L'Equipe].
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post Nov 25 2016, 07:46 PM
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Donnarumma
Abate - Musacchio - Romagnoli - MDS
Fabregas - Carvalho - Bonaventura
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Actually, why don't we consider Goetze as well? He's barely a starter at Dortmund anymore.
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post Nov 25 2016, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Nov 25 2016, 07:26 AM) *
Milan are interested in signing Santi Cazorla. His contract expires in June 2017. #MundoDeportivo


The players Mirabelli has scouted:
Rudy
Bazoer

Badelj
Fabregas
Ruben Semedo
Ricardo Rodriguez
Keita
Paredes

Krejčí
Tielemans
[CorSport]

Those in bold are my personal favorites, but lets see what happens.

Rodriguez would also be an amazing add. And Semedo looks like a very interesting player as well

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 25 2016, 07:48 PM) *
Actually, why don't we consider Goetze as well? He's barely a starter at Dortmund anymore.

Hmm, not sure if he can cut it here if he's not even getting time at Dortmund, what happened to him anyway?
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