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Posted by: DugiNesta Oct 18 2005, 06:40 PM
for Me Nesta is the best Player in the world and the best center back how About you
Posted by: YoungGun Oct 18 2005, 07:00 PM
You can't say a player is the best player, you just can say this is one of the best players in the world.
Posted by: xudong Oct 18 2005, 07:41 PM
I think he is the best.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 18 2005, 08:48 PM
He is, IMO, the best centre back in the world followed by John Terry.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 18 2005, 09:40 PM
I think Nesta at times is overrated I mean look how he got completely walked over by a English First Division player.
One of the best but not the best.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 18 2005, 09:46 PM
One of the best but not the best.
Let's be serious, all players at one time or another have a bad game. In general, Nesta is outstanding for us and makes us look safer at the back when he plays.
Posted by: xudong Oct 18 2005, 10:50 PM
One of the best but not the best.
when did that happen?
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 18 2005, 11:40 PM
He was playing for Italy against Scotland a month or so ago.
He was marking Kenny Miller who plays for Wolverhampton Wanderers, who play in the English First Division and Nesta just couldn't cope with him.
Posted by: xudong Oct 18 2005, 11:42 PM
He was marking Kenny Miller who plays for Wolverhampton Wanderers, who play in the English First Division and Nesta just couldn't cope with him.
I didn't see that match. I will take your words for it though. I guess Nesta was probably having a bad day. Was that the one when Pirlo scored two freekicks?
Posted by: AC_Milan>* Oct 19 2005, 03:05 AM
I think he's one of the best, not the best though. 
DugiNesta - I love your avatar. 
Posted by: xudong Oct 19 2005, 05:46 AM
DugiNesta - I love your avatar.
A question for you and those who insist that Nesta is only one of the best: who do u think is the best CB in the world?
Note that I am not asking who is in the best form right now.
Posted by: DugiNesta Oct 19 2005, 10:34 AM
i don't say he is the best player in the world but he is the best center back in the world
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 19 2005, 10:43 PM
No it was Hampden Park (Scotland's Ground).
I think the final score was 1-1.
Yes Nesta was having a bad day.
Posted by: xudong Oct 21 2005, 05:24 AM
I think the final score was 1-1.
Yes Nesta was having a bad day.
thanks for the info.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 21 2005, 08:59 PM
Ha ha no problem and to be fair Nesta was having a very off day he is not usually like that.
Posted by: goyez Oct 24 2005, 08:41 PM
Nesta is the best center back! not only is he physically talanted but also mentally. He is very consistent and a steadfast player.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 08:43 PM
That is very true
Posted by: xudong Oct 24 2005, 09:04 PM
i was astonished to see Nesta's name left out of the final 50 candidates for Golden Ball while Dopers have nine in it.
on another note, there is no Zambrotta in the nine zebras. 
one of dopers' players i don't mind taking to Milan.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 09:09 PM
on another note, there is no Zambrotta in the nine zebras.
one of dopers' players i don't mind taking to Milan.I know some of the names in the top 50 are bemusing.
Posted by: xudong Oct 24 2005, 09:12 PM
what's the criteria anyway? Nedved almost missed the whole season, and he was still nominated? 
Well, not that he will be crowned anyway, but still...
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 09:32 PM
Exactly, why was Luis Garcia nominated? What all you've got to do is score one good goal then you get nominated
I think the criteria is the people the French like
Posted by: xudong Oct 26 2005, 02:22 AM
I think the criteria is the people the French like
to be honest, luis garcia impressed me quite much when he eliminated Bayer and Juve. the goal against Chelsea was pure lucky though.
but I heard that he is not even starting for Liverpool now, is it true?
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 26 2005, 03:03 PM
but I heard that he is not even starting for Liverpool now, is it true?
Yes but I thought to be European Footballer Of The Year you have to play well in your respective division as well which Garcia did not do.
No, he is still starting for them, he didn't play last night but that was only a league cup tie.
Posted by: dst Feb 8 2006, 08:38 PM
that was me talking?? 
Posted by: GULLIVER Feb 10 2006, 12:28 PM
this season sucks, period!!
No, and again no.
Can you explain why, or you just didn't like his game?
Posted by: Nova Feb 10 2006, 02:22 PM
You might as well put Paolo Maldini and kaka on the butchter table ... Nesta had like the hardest job on the planet without maldini
Posted by: dst Feb 11 2006, 08:04 PM
Can you explain why, or you just didn't like his game?
I was not talking about any specific game
On which part do you disagree?wasn't (with the exception of his first year as I alreasy said) playing better for Lazio?gee I'm not saying he's become useless (I'd be really stupid if I said that) he's playing pretty well BUT at the level Dario Simic can also play NOT at his own level!!that's all!!He'd be my favourite defender if it wasn't for our captain!!
really true and a factor to be considered but Nesta wasn't at his best last year too...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Feb 11 2006, 10:54 PM
The trouble with Nesta(and in some respects Dida as well) is that he's trying to cover for too many of our defenders on his own. Think back to when we first signed him and San Paolo was younger, all Sandro had to worry about was his own man. But since our defence has got worse as it has got older, Sandro is desperately trying to hold it all together on his own. Once we get some decent replacements in then I'm sure you'll see Sandro(and maybe Dida) back to his best.
Posted by: amancik Feb 16 2006, 07:28 PM
nesta has been picking up form lately ... when maldini recovers ... he will get his confidence back ... and play how he likes ...
Posted by: dst Feb 17 2006, 11:28 PM
hope that's what's wrong!!FORZA NESTA!!!
Posted by: DugiNesta Feb 18 2006, 06:49 PM
He is the only Defender in Milan
Posted by: dst Feb 18 2006, 09:35 PM
Um I think we've got another one...what was his name??something like Maldini???
hey guys don't get me wrong all I wanted to say is that from what I had seen during his time at Lazio and his first season with us,his performance is worse (this year sucks was kind of stupid to say!!!)but then again I might be wrong!!!
Posted by: milan00047 Feb 21 2006, 05:21 AM
When Maldini retires who's going to take up the responsinbility.It has to be Nesta.
This is the period he has to gear himself up for the hard days in , maybe, after 2007.
Posted by: leone1899 Feb 23 2006, 03:18 PM
Nesta played so well at Arena !!!
Posted by: milan00047 Mar 19 2006, 01:08 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY NESTA.TURNS 30 TODAY.
Posted by: Portikins Mar 19 2006, 01:18 PM
Congrats, grande Alessandro!
Posted by: m1ke Mar 19 2006, 01:28 PM
Happy Birthday Nesta 
May he play in Red&Black for another 10 years
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 19 2006, 01:34 PM
May he play in Red&Black for another 10 years
yeah im for that too, may he.
Posted by: naurif Mar 19 2006, 01:55 PM
Happy Birthday Nesta 
may he continue to play with milan forever
Posted by: Rivaldo Mar 19 2006, 03:02 PM
Happy Birthday Sandro!!!
Posted by: dst Mar 19 2006, 04:49 PM
May he play in Red&Black for another 10 years
Happy birthday Rossonero!!!!
Posted by: Rossonero13 Mar 20 2006, 08:34 AM
Happy Birthday SANDRO!
You Are Simply the Best!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Mar 22 2006, 01:51 AM
I have a feeling Nesta will play his best football of his career in the next 3-4 seasons for Milan. He is just going through a difficult time right now. The problem is of a psycological one. It's not physical or technical. But unfortunately your physical ability is affected by psycological issues and that's what exactly the case with Nesta. Once he overcomes those problems, he'll be back and there will be no defnder better than him.
Posted by: dst Mar 23 2006, 09:17 AM
I have that feeling too!!!
Posted by: milanezos7 Mar 27 2006, 04:29 PM
All the players have their bad monents.The best defender has passed his bad period.I saw him alone to battle with two or three opponents and i undestood that only Italians are the best defenders in the world.After Baresi and Maldini is the next defence's leader!!!FORZA GRANDE SANDRO!!!
Posted by: amancik Apr 14 2006, 01:07 PM
hey ... did anyone notice ... that the last two games against Lyon and Chievo ... Nesta went forward a few times to try to score ... which is something quite rare for him to do ... and that goal vs Chievo was sweet ...
Posted by: Costacurta Apr 16 2006, 01:26 AM
I feel we're all forgetting the other great Alessandro that has formed part of Milan's indomitable defences over the years- Billy. Everyone rants about Maldini and Baresi, and they should, they were genuine ledgends, still are. But had Costaucrta not played at the same time he would not have been overshadowed in te fashion he has. He was just as crucial to Milam's vanguard as anyone else, and should always be mentioned alongside Maldini and Baresi.
As for Nesta, I have the utmost respect for him, and beleive that, of CB in their prime, he is an arguable contender for best CB in the world. I am always impressed by him, he seems to resuce the situation, alleviate the impending danger. Please, just remeber Billy who is still a rock in the Milan defence at virtually 40. That is true class.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 17 2006, 09:38 PM
Yes, you are completely right...replacements are needed to reduce the pressure! Dario Simic should get more chances, maybe also in the central defence. After all he is a standard player in the Croatian national team!
Posted by: amancik Apr 17 2006, 09:42 PM
but the problem is ... it's hard to find a defender as good as Nesta these days ...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 17 2006, 09:50 PM
Sure. Nesta is in the top (central)defender class, with maybe six or max. ten other players in the world. But well, I suppose we need one more central (we have Simic, Nesta and Kaladze, course if Simic stays) and one or two more wing-full backs (Cafu, Maldini, Serginho, Costacurta are great, but still some fresh power will be needed). Stams departure will be the biggest problem
Posted by: Costacurta Apr 19 2006, 12:23 AM
I agree, some new defenders have to be brought in. However, I despairingly agree with Amancik- top CB are nigh on impossible to come-by at the moment. There are some badly hyped ones- players like Terry are good in the the air, and he is obviously a great leader, but as for defnding on the ground so to speak, tackling etc, the staple work of a CB, I'm a long way off being convinced. All I would say is that if you want a good CB, don't look to England, sadly.
Having said that, Italy is not the fertile land it once was for defenders. What to do I don't know. Persist with the old guard until genuine improvements can be found, and try to train some of our own- Costacurta and Maldini were our own products! -where is the next generation?
Posted by: dst Apr 19 2006, 12:31 PM
we seem to be seeking immediate success as of lately...I think a new policy (which probably means a new coach) is needed to "push" some new guys on...
Posted by: milan00047 Apr 21 2006, 08:43 AM
Yeah who's next?
What's Franco Baresi doing?
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 21 2006, 06:55 PM
From our Youth team Lino Marzorati seems a promising player
Strong, Quick, Intelligent has what it takes to be a good player
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 21 2006, 09:17 PM
Strong, Quick, Intelligent has what it takes to be a good player
Indeed, Lino is promising. Also what about George Weah Junior? I would not agree that at this level a coach change would be wise. But, if it would happen, Baresi is not considered, he is in the youth team. Roberto Danadoni and Frank Rijkaard are next in line! But to be honest, I am kind off convinced that Ancelotti is the right man for the job
Posted by: anano1214 Dec 26 2006, 01:28 AM
Alessandro Nesta with family in Miami 
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 26 2006, 02:11 AM
Not the prettiest of wives ...
Glade he is finally getting the break he deserves after such a looong period of consistency
Posted by: dst Dec 27 2006, 05:39 PM
Nestaaaaaaaaa!!
Posted by: anano1214 Dec 31 2006, 03:41 PM
more pics
Posted by: dst Dec 31 2006, 04:01 PM
He's taken the "thing" (how's that called really" off his arm!!
anano are you spying on Nesta!? Thanks!!
Posted by: anano1214 Dec 31 2006, 04:21 PM
Posted by: rhy_A4 Dec 31 2006, 04:28 PM
by the way Gilardino was seen in dubai
Posted by: pacang Jan 1 2007, 10:42 AM
give him some time.. everyone who suffers an injury won't play at his peak as soon as he recovers aite?
juz wait.. when he's back in form, that's when we'll say 'the world best CB has returned'
Posted by: anano1214 Jan 6 2007, 01:06 AM
more
Posted by: anano1214 Jan 6 2007, 01:06 AM
Posted by: dst Jan 9 2007, 07:14 PM
I feel so sad about Nesta!! 
He certainly does not feel as if he deserves to be called a World Champion... he was the only one who didn't show up last night in the award ceremony... OK I know about his injury but don't you think he'd still have attended the ceremony if things had been as should for him in the World Cup??
... 
Posted by: milanistar Jan 10 2007, 07:25 AM
He certainly does not feel as if he deserves to be called a World Champion... he was the only one who didn't show up last night in the award ceremony... OK I know about his injury but don't you think he'd still have attended the ceremony if things had been as should for him in the World Cup??
...
Yeah, clearly
And I'm sure it affected his season debut!
Posted by: arivanjj Feb 27 2007, 12:26 PM
Nesta Finally Back From South Beach
Alessandro Nesta returned to Italy from Miami today, and is now ready to help the Rossoneri in the final stretch of the season.
“I feel good, my shoulder has healed completely,†the Milan defender told reporters minutes after stepping off the flight that brought him back to Italy after a two and half month stay in Miami, Florida.
The 2006 World Cup winner operated his shoulder on December 4th, and then went to the United States to undergo a long rehabilitation program.
“The rehabilitation should have been even longer, around three months, but I think I’m close to a return. In fifteen days I should be ready, now I have to start training again,†the former Lazio icon explained.
“It has been a hard year for me, a year full of injuries. Now I want to return to a certain level soon,†he added.
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=243774
... we've really missed him!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 27 2007, 12:30 PM
... we've really missed him!yes we have
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2007, 06:21 PM
Well in 3 weeks time he's finally returning.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2007, 08:46 PM
He certainly does not feel as if he deserves to be called a World Champion... he was the only one who didn't show up last night in the award ceremony... OK I know about his injury but don't you think he'd still have attended the ceremony if things had been as should for him in the World Cup??
...
He is a Champion and he should feel it. He did his job, even if injuried, he did the "team job", outside the pitch. I`d allways appreciated the presence of either veteran players like Cannigia (ehem, well his presence ended rather disturbing, but I can`t remember any better example right now..) or youngsters like Ronaldo in 94 or Kaka 02. Those ones played little, or even not at all, but certainly did affect the winning team. The same goes on Nesta. He was injuried, but he had his role in the road for the title...
The only thing that makes me mad is that Materazzi steped in...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 11 2007, 12:19 AM
Carlo: "Nesta is fine and should be available next week and could be on the bench for Atalanta."
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 11 2007, 12:21 AM
Nice...welcome back Sandro
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 11 2007, 01:37 AM
Thank god! Now paolo can get some deserved rest without worrying that simic is not up to the task
Posted by: dst Mar 13 2007, 10:12 PM
3/13/2007 5:41:00 PM
Alessandro Nesta and Serginho trained with the rest of the team today, undergoing technical-tactical work and a training game
The players started with a game of keep-ball before training began and then at 15.30 CET the team started on the strengthening phase of the session. The players then warmed up by taking alternating high and low passes through an obstacle course. Paolo Maldini also participated in this part of training, before going to work in the gym.
The group then moved to the raised pitch for 45 minutes of technical-tactical work. The first exercise focused on ball possession on the half pitch and then everyone started on a drill where they ran with the ball through obstacles to improve ball control. Then Carlo Ancelotti started the players on a tactical exercise based on offensive and defensive moves. This training game ended at 16.30 CET.
Another training game concluded the session, but this one was on the whole pitch with two goals. Zeljko Kalac and Marco Storari were the keepers for the two sides. The sides had to take turns attacking. Nelson Dida continued to work apart from the group in a personalized session on the lower field with goalkeeping coach Villiam Vecchi. Alessandro Nesta and Serginho trained with the rest of the group.
Nice!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 13 2007, 11:52 PM
Forza Nesta
Our defence will be much stronger with him around
Posted by: dst Mar 14 2007, 07:07 PM
3/14/2007 3:31:00 PM
MILANELLO - Alessandro Nesta touched on various topics during this afternoon’s press conference at Milanello.
HIS RETURN
‘I hope to return soon, maybe even by Sunday. I am working hard to get in an acceptable physical condition. As soon as the coach sees me doing well then he will put me in. I’ve been experiencing problems for a year now, since Messina before the return leg with Barcelona. Perhaps I played a lot or wasn't doing well enough when I returned. I really don’t know, but the fact is that I have had a lot of problems. Now my objective is return to the pitch, but above all else to return in top condition.’
HIS CONTRACT
‘Handing out contracts to injured players wouldn’t be a good bet for the club and their investment. I want to play and from the club’s side they want to see what kind of condition I am in. I am totally confident. I have already made it clear to Milan that I want to return and finish my career here. I don’t know how many years I’ll be able to play for, but I want to play here for as long as I can. When I am doing well, then we will sit and talk about a contract. Rome is my home, but there are no premises for my return. Milan have given me a lot and I want to end my career here. If I leave it mean I am not doing well, but I am confident that this won’t be the case. I have had six operations. I understand the situation but I will overcome even this. After every operation I have gotten back to where I should be, both mentally and physically. I must return to playing because I really miss football. I miss the splendid nights at the San Siro.’
THE TEAM
‘Perhaps we had a bit more polish in other years, but this year started like it did. We rushed back from vacation and underwent an inadequate preparation that has followed us up until today. However, this is certainly not the fault of the coaches because they have did everything they could. Now, I must regain my physical condition. I have a strong desire to play. I want to make my contribution to the team. The defence are doing really well. I saw every game and Bonera is having a great season.’
VARIOUS TOPICS
‘I spoke with Azzurri national coach Roberto Donadoni before going to Miami. I think that I can continue to play for the Italy national team, but we’ll see how things go at a physical level. We must evaluate things day by day. As for Sunday’s game, if the coach thinks that I can give a hand then he will put me on the bench. I am trying to become a bit quicker because I couldn't run any sprints in Miami. Inter are the team of the moment, but Juventus aren’t here this season. We’ll see what happens next year when we all start from the same place. When we are in good form, the exact same Milan of today can hold its own against anyone.’
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 14 2007, 08:56 PM
FORZA NESTAAA!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 15 2007, 10:29 AM
He's baaack
Posted by: anano1214 May 20 2007, 04:13 PM
FESTA PER L' ADDIO AL CALCIO DI BILLY COSTACURTA
Posted by: Tennie May 21 2007, 11:16 PM
Er. Did I miss the post or did nobody notice that Nesta has renewed his contract? Til 2011 or 2012. (Can't recall offhand, but it was all over Gazzetta on Saturday).
Posted by: KillerMax May 21 2007, 11:31 PM
Yeah, it's 2011.
Posted by: Tennie May 31 2007, 12:20 PM
Awww. Sandro got married yesterday. (http://goal.com/it/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=316579)
Guess this really is why he asked not to be called up for the two games.
Posted by: dst May 31 2007, 12:49 PM
I'm sorry Tennie... 
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 6 2007, 11:47 PM
Great comp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je1EzMiE3dI&mode=related&search=
Posted by: anano1214 Jun 15 2007, 08:00 PM
Gabriela & Sandro Nesta
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Posted by: anano1214 Jun 15 2007, 08:00 PM
NESTA AND GF GABRIELA AT ZAMBROTTA'S WEDDING :
HQs
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Posted by: anano1214 Jun 15 2007, 08:00 PM
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Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 4 2007, 03:24 PM
Alessandro Nesta admits he still feels hurt by the injury he obtained during the 2006 World Cup and he also gives his reasons for retiring from international football.
The Milan star has been one of the best defenders of the past generation and won 78 caps during a ten-year career with the Azzurri. The 31-year-old was part of Italy’s World Cup winning squad in Germany last summer but after picking up an injury in the final group game against the Czech Republic, he did not play any further part in the tournament.
This deeply hurt Nesta, who was very reserved during the after-celebrations in Berlin and Rome, and he later admitted that he did not feel part of the success as he had not made any contribution during the knock-out games.
“The World Cup was a big regret. It really hurt me,†Nesta told Sky Sports Italia. “I only felt partly a World Champion. However the more that time goes by, the more I feel as though I played my part.
“I mean I played all the qualification games and also the first two matches in the group in Germany.â€
Nesta finally hung up his Azzurri boots this summer and he believes he had no choice given his injury problems in recent years.
“During the season I never have a rest. I play every game and by the end of the season I have made 60 appearances and I arrive at a major championship with a big risk of something happening.
“I took the decision by myself. I arrived at a point where my health had to come first. I have had many injuries over my career.
“I still have an excellent relationship with all the Azzurri boys, with Buffon, Cannavaro, Zambrotta and all the others.
“I remember my time with great pleasure, I was lucky to play with these extraordinary players and magnificent human
Posted by: Tennie Dec 1 2007, 12:21 PM
There's an interview with Nesta in today's Gazzetta (print edition. not reproduced anywhere I can see in the online edition. goal.com's Italian page did reproduce the relevant bits, though.) http://www.goal.com/it/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=499136
What did you do in Miami? After returning, you haven't missed any games.
"I had the luck to be in a good situation: a clinic specializing in shoulder problems, a place I liked that was far away from the polemics. Being there I recovered my head and legs, my body responded and I felt better."
You did like Maldini in leaving the Azzurri.
"Certainly being able to rest has helped me. My body hasn't allowed me to do more, and honestly I couldn't continue to do two things (Milan and the Azzurri) at the same time. I was always exhausted at the end of the season, it was a signal."
You seem like the perfect heir to Maldini.
"In one thing we're very different: I won't have his longevity. He's got something more than others: his head. Paolo is an ox, he never gives up, he still likes to train and play. I don't think that I'll still be the same in four or five years."
What sort of Milan-Juve will it be?
"A great occasion to move up in the table. And above all it won't be easy because Juve is a strong squad, they play and won't close up. It'll be a super game."
The scudetto for Milan is a utopia?
"Before considering the discussion closed, it's best to wait a bit."
Your favorite Milan-Juve games?
"The game form October 2005, when Pirlo scored on a free kick and we won 3-1 and the one from 2003 when Sheva and Inzaghi scored and we won 2-1."
The next Pallone d'oro from Milan?
"Pirlo. The result this year isn't his real position (nb, Pirlo finished fifth): he won more and did more, and aside from Kaka, is in fifth place against people who did worse than he did."
Posted by: dst Dec 1 2007, 01:36 PM
Nesta... I love him!!!!!!!!
YOU deserve a Golden Ball for you're The Milan Wall!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Dec 1 2007, 06:58 PM
^^^
Oasis
Posted by: Tennie Mar 19 2008, 02:10 PM
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
TANTI CARI AUGURI SANDRO!
19/03/2008
MILANO - Proprio nel giorno del suo probabile ritorno in campo dopo gli infortuni con l'Arsenal, Sandro Nesta festeggia una bella ricorrenza: il suo 32esimo compleanno! Tanti auguri da parte di tutti i Milanisti al campione rossonero arrivato al Milan il 31 Agosto 2002. Auguri!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 19 2008, 04:41 PM
Happy birthday hero...
Posted by: dst Mar 19 2008, 05:42 PM
You ****ing legend!!!
Posted by: Darunia Mar 20 2008, 12:05 AM
Happy B-day Nesta! It's too bad he won't be able to celebrate it with a win. I'm sure they'll still have fun tonight though
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 20 2008, 03:03 AM
GODLIKE LEGEND! BEST defender in the world hands down.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 20 2008, 02:41 PM
Okay. Nesta has a good excuse for not playing well last night:
SANDRO DI NUOVO PAPA': BENVENUTO TOMMASO!
20/03/2008
MILANO - E' nato questa mattina Tommaso Nesta, il secondogenito di Sandro e Gabriela. Il fratellino della piccola Sofia ha visto la luce presso la clinica 'La Madonnina' di Milano. Al nostro campione due volte papà e alla mamma, la signora Nesta, vanno le più sentite e affettuose congratulazioni da parte di tutti i milanisti e di tutti gli appassionati di calcio.
[This morning, Tomasso Nesta, the second child of Sandro and Gabriela, was born. The little brother of Sofia was born at the clinic 'La Madonnina' of Milan. To our champion and to Mrs. Nesta go our most sincere congratulations.]
Welcome Tommaso!
Posted by: dst Mar 20 2008, 04:52 PM
Yes! A new Nesta!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 1 2008, 06:41 PM
Suspended Nesta skips Juve
The defender was sent off for dissent in the final minutes of Sunday’s 2-1 home defeat to Atalanta.
The Disciplinary Commission received the report from the referee and has judged his comments worthy of a two-match ban.
As the Rossoneri are already without the injured Marcos Cafu, Marek Jankulovski and Serginho, this leaves Carlo Ancelotti with limited options at the back.
Cagliari Coach Davide Ballardini will also be in the stands for the Milan tie due to a touchline ban.
The players suspended for one match are Manuele Blasi (Napoli), Paul Codrea (Siena), Mario Frick (Siena), Ousmane Dabo (Lazio), Vincenzo Grella (Torino), Giuseppe Mascara (Catania) and David Pizarro (Roma).
Football Italia
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 1 2008, 06:43 PM
Bonera must start against Cagliari to get into gear.
I want Oddo Bonera Kaladze Maldini against Juve.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Apr 1 2008, 07:21 PM
I want Oddo Bonera Kaladze Maldini against Juve.
Oddo is out
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 1 2008, 11:43 PM
bonera=kaladze=maldini=janku
Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 1 2008, 11:52 PM
Isn't Janku also out?
Posted by: acid911 Apr 2 2008, 01:26 AM
Oh, dear. Look at the bright side, we still have Favallinho, so I'm pretty suer we can scrap together a back line. Alternatively, we can always play 3 on the back. How this fares against Inter is any body's guess. 
Bonera - Kaladze - Favali - Maldini
Posted by: Habitant Apr 2 2008, 03:44 AM
i'd rather something like this
cafu-bonera-madini-kaladze
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 2 2008, 03:49 AM
cafu-bonera-madini-kaladze
if cafu is fit i'd have the same except like this
cafu=bonera=kaladze=maldini
Posted by: acid911 Apr 2 2008, 03:51 AM
I'm not sure Cafu is a 100% - or so I've heard. 
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 2 2008, 04:28 AM
Posted by: dst May 8 2008, 11:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95fvdGeFBYY 
This guy is awesome! I wish Tennie were his wife so I could meet him... then again, if Tennie were his wife she would not be lurking in football forums...
Posted by: morgoth May 8 2008, 01:40 PM
With all the confusion about your gender, I'm not sure she'll let you approach him anyway
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 8 2008, 04:48 PM
With all the confusion about your gender, I'm not sure she'll let you approach him anyway
Posted by: amancik May 10 2008, 10:44 PM
This guy is awesome! I wish Tennie were his wife so I could meet him... then again, if Tennie were his wife she would not be lurking in football forums...
since when did he learn to tackle like that?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 10 2008, 10:48 PM
Nesta is Nesta
Posted by: dst May 10 2008, 11:16 PM
Since he first stepped on the green!
Posted by: KillerMax May 11 2008, 07:25 AM
Haha... He is being silly... Someone please tell me he is being silly...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 11 2008, 07:42 AM
He is being silly
Posted by: LaPalma May 11 2008, 10:05 AM
Since he first saw it.
Posted by: amancik May 11 2008, 05:42 PM
Come on man, u know I was being silly ... I like Maldini's sliding tackles more though
Posted by: dst Jul 16 2008, 08:59 PM
Wednesday 16 July, 2008
Veteran Milan defender Alessandro Nesta has insisted that he won't return to the Azzurri side under Marcello Lippi.
With the return of Lippi to the Italy bench, there have been suggestions that Francesco Totti and Nesta could retract their international retirement.
Nesta hasn’t represented his country since October 2006 when he played in a Euro 2008 qualifier against Georgia and he claims that he won’t be tempted back to the fold.
“The national team is a closed chapter,” Nesta stated emphatically.
“Leaving the Azzurri had nothing to do with Roberto Donadoni, I had major physical problems that stopped me from playing.”
The former Lazio man also commented on Milan’s summer transfer campaign.
“The club has done well in the market,” he said. “And this year we can challenge for the Scudetto as well as the UEFA Cup, which seems to be less difficult than the Champions League on paper.
“As we don’t have the Champions League as an objective, we can focus on domestic affairs because we haven’t done so well in Serie A for a few years.”
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul16j.html
See Totti? That's what men do!
I love Nesta!!!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 17 2008, 08:46 AM
Get in line biaatch...yep that long queue starting with Tennie.
Posted by: Mook Jul 23 2008, 11:46 AM
Nesta Injury Alarm For Milan
According to the Corriere dello Sport, Milan are likely to go into the market and buy another defender following an injury blow to Alessandro Nesta.
Centre back Nesta has endured a rather injury prone career, all dating back to a serious problem he picked up during the 1998 World Cup in France.
His niggling and chronic injuries, particularly around the groin and back area, eventually led him to retire from international football in 2007. Having played no internationals, the 32-year-old’s fitness has improved, however he still missed around a quarter of last season.
During pre-season training, Nesta’s back problems have resurfaced, and this is proving a cause of concern for the Milan technical team. As a result, the Rossoneri are almost certain to go into the market and sign another centre back as cover for the new season.
General manager Adriano Galliani had stated last week that no one else would arrive following the purchase of Ronaldinho, but Nesta’s situation will surely cause him to re-think this standpoint.
Milan only currently have Paolo Maldini, Kakha Kaladze, Daniele Bonera, and Dario Simic as centre back alternatives, the latter of whom has been tipped to leave the club this summer.
Roberto Rossi
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=788038
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 23 2008, 11:51 AM
*sigh* One small knock, and the world topples down?? 
Can't say I'm too worried this season. Next season yes, but this season no. Next season we need to worry about a new CB, and if our GK woes don't cease, then that too.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 23 2008, 11:53 AM
Yeah, everyone agrees we need one more CB, and a world class one. Kaladze is mistake-prone, Nesta is injury-prone. Maldini is 40 and we can't expect miracles as slightest injuries could rule him out for weeks. Bonera is good but not world class. Darmian is untested while Digao is a joke. I hope Nesta's recent injury will be good for something and we buy a good CB. if that happened, it'd be our best transfer window in years!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 23 2008, 01:12 PM
^^
The fact is there is nobody out there. Sergio Ramos?? Puhleeze as if we stand a chance realistically. And almost all who are affordable are Kaladze class.
I certainly will say one thing, Milan does know how to pick defenders. I mean we were all harping about Barzagli, and how we were being stupid, but one match in the Euros certainly showed how much of a big thing Barzagli is.
There are a lot of promising talents out there. Like 10ster's favourite Santacroce and Chiellini. But if Milan choose to go with their own talent, I'm not complaining. No point paying 300% more for a player who's 40% better than the one you got is there?
Look at the big names and you have people like Ramos, Terry, Toure, Puyol all of whom are as valuable to their respective clubs as Nesta is to ours.
The only guy, who might be worth a gamble is that Ivanovic guy. But it still remains a gamble. He might turn out as good as Chiellini did for the zebras or he might be another white elephant. But for a team that is on a tight budget this season, gambles might not be an option. That's why I said, go for next season, when you can promise something both money wise and budget wise. I'm inclined to think, if Milan do bring in a new CB, it will be a Flamini type transfer, find some guy who's haggling over his contract, and force him out.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 23 2008, 03:54 PM
^^
Well, I certainly didn't mean someone as good and as expensive as Ramos. a good CB can be found in smaller Serie A teams. one of those young and lesser known defenders that have the potential to be a good sub at Milan.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 23 2008, 03:56 PM
This is bad news 
But considering a transfer ? You never know, if Nesta's injury is serious, then you might see someone come in.
But I doubt it cuz when Nesta regains his fitness, that new guy will be demoted to the bench. And as Jack said, this season it's not a real cause for worry.
Posted by: dst Jul 28 2008, 09:08 PM
Some highlights from Nesta's season. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxiGmQhXRjk!
He's so ****ing great! 
Posted by: han2503 Jul 28 2008, 10:58 PM
He's so ****ing great!
I forget that game against Inter.
Made Zlatan look like a school kid
Nesta
Posted by: Tennie Jul 28 2008, 11:19 PM
Nesta!
(now if only he'd stop hurting his back when he picks up his kids....)
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 29 2008, 05:50 AM
I don't think Nesta was the only one who maintained his level, but nice compilation anyway.
Posted by: dst Jul 29 2008, 11:08 AM
Made Zlatan look like a school kid
Nesta In both games against Inter he was there!
He did stop Zlatan in the first one but the Swede still managed to create problems cause our defense as a whole was bad...
I believe he and Ambrosini are the only ones that gave their all in almost every match. There's also Pato and Kalac but they played half a season.
Posted by: Mook Aug 2 2008, 05:06 PM
Nesta in new surgery call
Alessandro Nesta could be forced to have surgery after his back problem reared its head again.
The Milan defender has been struggling with the recurring injury for several months and up until now the club had always firmly denied there would be the need for an operation.
However, he is still not training with the full squad and Carlo Ancelotti did not want to be drawn on naming a date for his comeback.
According to newspaper Tuttosport, Nesta is undergoing daily physiotherapy sessions, but is still having difficulty even walking.
The now retired Italian international has a problem in his back caused by the compression of two vertebrae and has not trained with the squad all summer.
It is now reported that the Rossoneri medical staff are seriously considering surgery as the only option to clear this up once and for all.
If they were to take this option, it would rule Nesta out for several months.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug2l.html
Posted by: Tennie Aug 2 2008, 05:16 PM
I'm going to call BS on this one. It's Tuttosport, which is reliable for Juve and Toro news (as it's a Turin-based paper) but...not at all reliable for other news.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 2 2008, 06:54 PM
hopefully he gets back till about 15 september bcoz b4 that our fixtures are not that hard but against inter we defintly need him
Posted by: MizNelson Aug 2 2008, 07:02 PM
It makes absolutely no sense for a Turin-based paper to report on Milan news. I've looked at Gazzetta several times and don't see any Juve coverage.
Either way, it's an unfortunate situation for Nesta. It's weird reading about extensive injury problems like this, because it soon starts to give you the impression that it seems like an eternity since the last time they played.
Posted by: Mook Sep 1 2008, 08:06 PM
Milan Leave Nesta Out Of UEFA Cup
Milan have confirmed their squad for the 2008/09 UEFA Cup competition and Alessandro Nesta will not be taking part.
The former Italian international has been suffering from a back problem which wasn’t thought to be serious, but he was not included to play for the Rossoneri in Europe.
This has led to rife speculation that Nesta will be out of action for the whole season and that he may even consider retirement.
Milan have always stated the back problem was nothing to dangerous but leaving Nesta out seems to suggest that something is not right.
The rest of the team makes the list and old war horses like Paolo Maldini and Giuseppe Favalli have been included by Carlo Ancelotti.
Here is the 25 man squad which the club have submitted to UEFA:
Goalkeepers: Dida, Abbiati, Kalac.
Defenders: Maldini, Kaladze, Zambrotta, Jankulovski, Favalli, Senderos, Bonera, Darmian, Pasini, Antonini.
Midfielders: Emerson, Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Flamini.
Strikers: Pato, Inzaghi, Seedorf, Borriello, Kakà, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho.
The Rossoneri will be challenging for the UEFA Cup this term and they are amongst the favourites to win the tournament but they will need to find some form after a poor start to Serie A.
Salvatore Landolina
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=844908
Posted by: acid911 Sep 1 2008, 08:07 PM
There goes my UEFA Cup dream! Carlo sure would be happy.
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 1 2008, 08:08 PM
Typical Goal.com crap. They relish pulling stuff like this out of their asses.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 1 2008, 08:09 PM
his problem is very serious i suppose
Posted by: vahid Sep 1 2008, 08:11 PM
What the hell? out for the whole season and even consider retirement? 
If it's true,We're official fu**ed!
Posted by: Mook Sep 1 2008, 08:14 PM
I'm hoping were just trying to reduce the number of matches he plays and have him for most of the Serie A season.
Posted by: MizNelson Sep 1 2008, 08:33 PM
If it's true,We're official fu**ed!
Maybe you missed http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=761&view=findpost&p=170026.
Posted by: han2503 Sep 1 2008, 08:35 PM
That's what I'm thinking, this clearly shows our intentions towards the UEFA Cup...
If it's better for Nesta's fitness to reduce his number of matches then I'm all for it.
Or maybe he'll take a couple of months before coming back (hopefully not) and they didn't think it was neccissary to include him in this squad but he'll be included in the one after the winter transfer window closes...
Who knows, I'm sure someone from the club will shed some light on the situation
Posted by: KillerMax Sep 1 2008, 08:43 PM
If Nesta retires... I... Just... 
No.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 1 2008, 08:56 PM
WHAT!?
THis can't be true, surely. If it is then 2 World class CBs are necessary in Jan '09.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 1 2008, 09:04 PM
Nesta. Won't. Retire. Not. Now.
Posted by: misha Sep 1 2008, 09:04 PM
That's just goal.com bullshit.
Till February we won't have any problem in the Uefa cup anyway, and we can add Nesta to the squad then. With his injury problems it make sense that the club want to take it easy on him. There is no need to panic yet.
Posted by: acid911 Sep 1 2008, 09:12 PM
Exactly Misha. No need to hit the panic button now, guys. Besides it's Goal.com. I'd have expect those funkers to reports Nesta is dead, if he had fallen out of bed yesterday and bruised his thigh. Yes, they'd go that far.
I only visit Goal.com for funny stories more so, even funnier comments. 
It isn't the Herald Tribune, you know.
Posted by: gal_kenny Sep 1 2008, 09:20 PM
Guys its official..Nesta wasn't in the squad for the UEFA Cup
Posted by: arivanjj Sep 1 2008, 10:21 PM
MILAN - The list of 25 players:
GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Abbiati, Kalac;
DEFENDERS: Maldini, Kaladze, Zambrotta, Jankulovski, Favalli, Senderos, Bonera, Darmian, Pasini, Antonini;
MIDFIELDERS: Emerson, Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Flamini;
ATTACKERS: Pato, Inzaghi, Seedorf, Borriello, Kakà, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho.
Posted by: gal_kenny Sep 1 2008, 10:28 PM
I really think we need a defender..Kaladze is such a joke..We should've gotten Micah Richards..He's a very stubborn defender that doesn't give in like that...He's good and young
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 1 2008, 10:35 PM
i think we should use darmain and make him ready we cant replace nesta on transfer market some are not gud while other who are they have a big price tag the solution is youth team players specially for the defence i think it is time to give darmain and the other the chance and this is the best way to replace maldini and nesta ( he still can play 2-3 years but rite now we need someone to replace him and tha should be darmain or someone from the youth team)
Posted by: han2503 Sep 1 2008, 10:56 PM
Till February we won't have any problem in the Uefa cup anyway, and we can add Nesta to the squad then. With his injury problems it make sense that the club want to take it easy on him. There is no need to panic yet.
Exactly.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 2 2008, 12:32 PM
Wait a moment,..who is Pasini now?
I don't think Nesta will retire NOW, after the transfer period is over? I think he would have made that decision early this summer if he had to. But he'll be back,..
Posted by: Tennie Sep 2 2008, 12:38 PM
Nesta's running - it's a small step but it's a step. He'll be back, though it may not be til winter that we see him. I'm not too concerned that he's not been included in the UEFA Cup list. The first set of games (those played before Christmas) are generally the games that the A team isn't fielded anyway. For example, last year Fiorentina didn't start their strongest 11 in these games, nor did Bayern.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 2 2008, 12:38 PM
Another youth guy. We do that a lot. I was kinda hoping Osuji would be in the lineup.
Posted by: morgoth Sep 4 2008, 11:53 AM
I hope to see him back on his feet very soon without him our defence looks like Wigan's 
Come back soon Sandro!
Posted by: Tennie Nov 4 2008, 12:57 PM
Tuttomercatoweb (haven't looked elsewhere yet) is reporting that Nesta's back isn't better and that he may go to the same rehab place in Miami that he went to for his shoulder. They're saying that NOW he may be available to play after the Christmas break.
EDIT: The same story is repeated in Gazzetta and Mediaset.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 4 2008, 01:28 PM
Tuttomercatoweb (haven't looked elsewhere yet) is reporting that Nesta's back isn't better and that he may go to the same rehab place in Miami that he went to for his shoulder. They're saying that NOW he may be available to play after the Christmas break.EDIT: The same story is repeated in Gazzetta and Mediaset.
Oh FFS
He's the one crucial player we need and we can't seem to recover him any time soon.
I'm thinking this back problem could spell the end of Nesta's carreer
He can't seem to recover from it. Next season we should look into buying atleast 3 defenders and all should be class if not world class, Paolo is retiring, if this keeps up with Nesta he won't be around much longer, Kaladze is also very injury prne and out for half a season, Favalli will be another one out in the summer we shouldn't keep him any longer. That leaves us with just Bonera, Zambrotta, Senderos (big maybe, because if he doesn't recover from his injuries anytime soon and play some games Milan won't make his stay permanent), Janku, Darmian (who has a snowballs chance of getting into the first team), Kaladze and Antonini.
That leaves us with just 3 center backs and 3 fullbacks.
The defence needs a MAJOR overhaul in the summer, even the goalkeeper. Abbiati and Dida or not good enough anymore, Abbiati has been lucky that none of him mistakes have resulted in goals so far and I can't even imagine how many times Dida would have screwed up already if he was playing regularly
Posted by: rhy_A4 Nov 4 2008, 02:15 PM
Nesta can't shake injury Tuesday 4 November, 2008
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Milan defender Alessandro Nesta has suffered yet another setback in his recovery from a back problem.
The 32-year-old stopper is now unlikely to feature until after the winter break when the Rossoneri travel to Dubai for a mid-season training camp.
Nesta has not been available to Coach Carlo Ancelotti since July 13 when a disk slipped in his back and crushed two vertebrae.
After several weeks of therapy, Nesta returned to first team action on October 14 in a friendly played in Albania.
The following Sunday, Nesta was on the bench for Milan's game with Sampdoria, but felt pain once more.
“It will take a little more time,” said Ancelotti. Worryingly, former Milan left-back Serginho suffered from the same affliction and had to retire, albeit aged 35.
Nesta has already had an operation on his back and an investigative procedure recently showed that it is healing fine, making the real cause of his injury a mystery.
The former Lazio captain has since returned to Miami, where he has a holiday home, to complete his recovery.
Nesta's prolonged absence gives Ancelotti a headache at centre-back. Philippe Senderos has been at Milan for two months now and has been injured three times.
Paolo Maldini has had a scan after complaining of muscular pain and Kakha Kaladze is only just returning to full fitness.
That leaves Daniele Bonera as Milan's only healthy central defender. hes a class Centre back Forza Bonera !!!! keep the backline organised while Capitano isnt playing!!!!
Channel 4 News
Link: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/nov4g.html
Posted by: acid911 Nov 4 2008, 02:32 PM
Darn, that's bad. So many players on the injured list, I was hoping Nesta to be back!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 4 2008, 02:40 PM
I hope he is back soon ... I believe in the long run Milan will need him. So far, Bonera has produced really good displays and the more he plays, the more he will get better.
We also have Maldini, who will contribute his last efforts before hanging up his boats (obviously)
Kakha is strong and firm at the back
And though Nesta would be a HUGE boost to the back line .. I am confident that the team can go on without him in the short run. As the results have shown in the past six games.
EDIT: And Senderos has yet to contribute ... I am hoping for Stam-like performances from him
Posted by: han2503 Nov 4 2008, 03:07 PM
We also have Maldini, who will contribute his last efforts before hanging up his boats (obviously)
Kakha is strong and firm at the back
And though Nesta would be a HUGE boost to the back line .. I am confident that the team can go on without him in the short run. As the results have shown in the past six games.
EDIT: And Senderos has yet to contribute ... I am hoping for Stam-like performances from him
Bonera has been really good so far, just like he was when we lost Nesta because of the shoulder injury, he and Maldini together were rock solid and we didn't conceed any goals for a long period of time. But when the game start coming thick and fast and we can't even rely on Maldini to play in most of them we'll start having real problems.
Kaladze might be strong but he's not a firm defender. He's the opposite of that, I would much rather see Bonera starting in every match we have then Kaladze, he makes an average of 2-3 mistakes in every game he plays.
Nesta is desperately needed imo. Although we've managed to keep cleansheets or just conceed a single goal in these last few games we have been rather lucky in not conceeding. Our defence is anything but solid atm, and if Nesta doesn't return soon we'll start conceeding cheap goals again.
As for Senderos, I had high hopes for him, but at the rate things are going his entire loan spell with Milan could be spent on the treatment table. Which is too bad because we could really use someone with his physique in our defence
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 4 2008, 03:15 PM
So very true han ..
But the fact that Milan hasn't conceded much is because of the fusion solid midfield that Milan has. The DMs play real close to the defense, that they form a part of it when the pressure is on.
Tactically, this is 100% Carlo's doing and with experienced players like Ringo & Ambro, I think the team can hold on with the options available to us atm.
Posted by: KillerMax Nov 4 2008, 03:30 PM
I hope dst doesn't see this.
And damn it I was looking forward to see Nesta and Maldini play together again.
Posted by: Il Diavolo Nov 4 2008, 03:33 PM
This sux! Nesta is without a doubt our best defender. Only Bonera has the potential to reach Sandro's class. We will experience problems in defence very soon. These clean sheets are very surprising. Bonera, Kaladze and Maldini are our key central defenders and two of them are often not available. It's time for Darmian, Carlo. And bring back Digao this summer. Let's develop young defenders. Piccolo from Empoli is another option. He's played for Lazio and Juventus.
Get better, Sandro!
Posted by: han2503 Nov 4 2008, 04:05 PM
But the fact that Milan hasn't conceded much is because of the fusion solid midfield that Milan has. The DMs play real close to the defense, that they form a part of it when the pressure is on.
Tactically, this is 100% Carlo's doing and with experienced players like Ringo & Ambro, I think the team can hold on with the options available to us atm.
I think you know what I think of the bolded part already R7. I don't think it has anything to do with the defensive mids. We've been playing this 2 DMF system for more then 2 years now and it's never really worked out aside from some CL games, infact I see it more as a liablity, we struggle to retain possession when we have the 2 defensive mids instead of Seedorf and Pirlo with just 1 defensive mid, because Ambro and Rino are not the best passers around and Ambro also causes us more problems because he tends to dwell on the ball far too long and then loses it.
So far I think we've been solid at the back because of a combination of luck, the back four finally jelling well together and not having Kaladze on the field. It doesn't have anything to do with the extra defensive mid.
But I know what you're going to say, that the extra defensive mid is crucial for us and Carlo is a genious for coming up with the whole system
But let me give you a SINGLE example of how the 2 defensive mids don't really work and they're just an illusion of better defensive play
It's Wednesday 4th of May 2005. Milan go into the second leg of the semi-finals of the CL against PSV Eindhoven carrying a 2-0 lead from the first leg in the San Siro courtesy of a first half Sheva strike and a late goal from Tomasson. In the first game Milan go out with their preferred formation a 4-1-2-1-2 diamond setup
Milan win the game comfortably and they already have a foot in the final.
Carlo Ancellotti goes into the second leg with a conservative mindset, with preserving a 2-0 lead in mind. He chooses to drop one of the strikers in favour of a 4-3-2-1 formation with both Ambrosini and Gattuso flanking Pirlo and Seedorf and Kaka supporting Shevchenko.
PSV Eindhoven proceed to rip through our midfield scoring 3 goals in the process while Milan are unable to get a lookin. The midfield can't keep possession of the ball while Shevachenko is not being supplied any balls. In the end it turns out to be a lucky night for Carlo because Milan manage a last gasp goal and go through to the final.
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This entire game basically sums up the last 2 seasons for us while playing with Carlo's master stroke of a system
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 4 2008, 04:45 PM
Top post han 
SHAME ABOUT NESTA unfortunately because of his condition he can't be relied on anymore. he will be a big bonus when his finally fit, but he's going to be constantly on and off the squad because this problem simply won't let go of him. it's a serious problem. much more serious than Maldini's knee problems. back injury is no joke.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Nov 4 2008, 05:32 PM
Tuttomercatoweb (haven't looked elsewhere yet) is reporting that Nesta's back isn't better and that he may go to the same rehab place in Miami that he went to for his shoulder. They're saying that NOW he may be available to play after the Christmas break.EDIT: The same story is repeated in Gazzetta and Mediaset.
Ohhh FcvK!!!!! Noooooooo!!!
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Nov 4 2008, 05:36 PM
We also have Maldini, who will contribute his last efforts before hanging up his boats (obviously)
Kakha is strong and firm at the back
And though Nesta would be a HUGE boost to the back line .. I am confident that the team can go on without him in the short run. As the results have shown in the past six games.
EDIT: And Senderos has yet to contribute ... I am hoping for Stam-like performances from him
I don't know why ppl keeping saying this, its a bit much to expect of someone who hasn't had a great past to speak of, to expect him to perform like Jaap Stam.
Seriouly - so they're both tall, bald, fair skined and slow in speed.
That doesn't fit well enough for me to be linked to each other.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Nov 4 2008, 05:51 PM
Nice post han, you've raised some really good points and what not concerning our formation containing both 1 DM & 2 DMs over those 2 legs vs PSV. While it can be said that the number of DMs could have attributed to the difference in our style of play and possesion, you also have to take in to account that the Backline setup was also different, certain players didn't play (or played in different positions all together), a player's form and mind set could have been completey different to that of the first game as well etc.
So while looking at the DMs as the only thing that may have caused a flucuation in our play, it wasn't necessarily the only thing.
And yes, for the record I too am a fan of the diamond mid-field set up with 2 strikers ahead.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 4 2008, 07:19 PM
So while looking at the DMs as the only thing that may have caused a flucuation in our play, it wasn't necessarily the only thing.
And yes, for the record I too am a fan of the diamond mid-field set up with 2 strikers ahead.
Well in the 2nd leg only Maldini was missing and in his place was Kaladze, but what has to be taken into account is the fact that the CB pairing was the same in both games, Nesta and Stam. In the LB position Maldini is replaced by Kaladze, but imo it's doesn't really make that much of a difference, Kaladze has always been solid at LB it's when he's played at CB that he messes up so much. In fact Maldini was more attacking minded at that time then Kaladze was.
The fact that we couldn't control the tempo of the game and couldn't even get a grip on the game imo has nothing to do with the defence and all to do with the midfield
Posted by: dst Nov 4 2008, 07:24 PM
Come ooooooooooooooonnnn!!!
WHY?!?!?
Why the **** why? This is ****ing unfair. Why Paolo? Is it because I wish for That-Guy-Who's-Name-I-Won't-Speak-In-This-Holy-Thread to get injured all the time? Is this how you punish me, my God?
COME ON! I want Nesta!! Bring me Nesta. Kill the Georgian and give his back to Alessandro, come on Milan Lab! Do somethingggrrrrrrrrrr!!!
**** OFF... this is annoying... and now that the abomination is back we'll even fear Simone Inzaghi...
Posted by: han2503 Nov 4 2008, 07:32 PM
WHY?!?!?
Why the **** why? This is ****ing unfair. Why Paolo? Is it because I wish for That-Guy-Who's-Name-I-Won't-Speak-In-This-Holy-Thread to get injured all the time? Is this how you punish me, my God?
COME ON! I want Nesta!! Bring me Nesta. Kill the Georgian and give his back to Alessandro, come on Milan Lab! Do somethingggrrrrrrrrrr!!!
**** OFF... this is annoying... and now that the abomination is back we'll even fear Simone Inzaghi...
I don't think wishing death upon the Georgian is a good way to get on God's good side
Posted by: dst Nov 4 2008, 07:39 PM
No no I meant he will offer his life for the greater good and in exchange he will stay forever in Milan... in one of the city's graveyards.
Posted by: acid911 Nov 4 2008, 07:45 PM
That's actually the best wish you've ever given for Kaladzity.
He still can be an absolutely terrible defender when he's not in the mood, to be quite honest.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 5 2008, 02:38 PM
So far I think we've been solid at the back because of a combination of luck, the back four finally jelling well together and not having Kaladze on the field. It doesn't have anything to do with the extra defensive mid.
But I know what you're going to say, that the extra defensive mid is crucial for us and Carlo is a genious for coming up with the whole system
But let me give you a SINGLE example of how the 2 defensive mids don't really work and they're just an illusion of better defensive play
It's Wednesday 4th of May 2005. Milan go into the second leg of the semi-finals of the CL against PSV Eindhoven carrying a 2-0 lead from the first leg in the San Siro courtesy of a first half Sheva strike and a late goal from Tomasson. In the first game Milan go out with their preferred formation a 4-1-2-1-2 diamond setup
Milan win the game comfortably and they already have a foot in the final.
Carlo Ancellotti goes into the second leg with a conservative mindset, with preserving a 2-0 lead in mind. He chooses to drop one of the strikers in favour of a 4-3-2-1 formation with both Ambrosini and Gattuso flanking Pirlo and Seedorf and Kaka supporting Shevchenko.
PSV Eindhoven proceed to rip through our midfield scoring 3 goals in the process while Milan are unable to get a lookin. The midfield can't keep possession of the ball while Shevachenko is not being supplied any balls. In the end it turns out to be a lucky night for Carlo because Milan manage a last gasp goal and go through to the final.
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This entire game basically sums up the last 2 seasons for us while playing with Carlo's master stroke of a system
Good post buddy
About the second line up .. Didn't Ambro score the winning goal
Still I am not convinced that with two DMs, Milan is handicapped. I have stated it many times, what Cesare Maldini commented on when he was asked about the 2 DM formation.
I have watched the derby from the stands and I have seen first hand how the DMs reshuffle and take to the wings when the full backs are forward. When inter had possession the DMs were the first to react forcefully to regain possession. The tactical set up changes while the game is underway with the DMs being crucial to ensure control over the midfield.
It is very easy to point fingers when things are in hindsight, but to assess something thoroughly, you would need to look at it from all the angles and comprehend all the possible alternatives to YOUR opinion. You might be right and I might be wrong, in the end it doesn't change much .. What remains unchanged is that the person in question is still on the Milan bench for a reason, of which you are not comprehending.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 5 2008, 03:12 PM
About the second line up .. Didn't Ambro score the winning goal
Shut up I have watched the derby from the stands and I have seen first hand how the DMs reshuffle and take to the wings when the full backs are forward. When inter had possession the DMs were the first to react forcefully to regain possession. The tactical set up changes while the game is underway with the DMs being crucial to ensure control over the midfield.
It is very easy to point fingers when things are in hindsight, but to assess something thoroughly, you would need to look at it from all the angles and comprehend all the possible alternatives to YOUR opinion. You might be right and I might be wrong, in the end it doesn't change much .. What remains unchanged is that the person in question is still on the Milan bench for a reason, of which you are not comprehending.
Like I've said many times I think it works reasonably well against big teams, mainly ones that use wingers Like for example Man U a couple of seasons back and Mourinho's Inter. The DMFs are really important in that case because they help to double up on the opponents with the fullbacks, but in games against teams who defend a lot (practically all the teams in Serie A that are behind the top 4) it never works. Simply because it's like running into a wall every time. The attack is too disconnected from the midfield and we still somehow manage to conceed on the quick counters.
In the game against PSV, we used that approach and PSV literally ripped us apart. Our midfield coudn't string 3 passes together, PSV went through the middle with so much pace that we literrally couldn't keep up while our defence and attack were both stranded.
I know what Maldini said, but it's obvious that's he's not going to say anything in the negetive regarding anything our coach would do. Way too classy for that sort of thing.
As for why Carlo is still on the bench. I personall still wanted Carlo after the 04/05 and 05/06 seasons, even though many were already starting to get fead up with him. I though he should have another season to prove himself. 06/07 came and it was a disgrace of a season that ended with a CL victory thanks to Kaka, who imo dragged the entire team by their hair through the entire competition. Without him we probably wouldn't have made it out of our VERY easy group, that's how important he was. But we won the CL so ok even if Carlo is not good enough for the team anymore, Galliani decided to let him stay for the duration of the contract, we should respect that. But after that 07/08 campaign, were we got humiliated more times then I can count on 2 hands thanks to Carlo's cagey and cowardly tactics it's a miracle he's still on that bench.
Silvio clearly has other things more important then Milan on his mind. Because if the things that happened to us last season happened at any other time in the past be sure that Carlo wouldn't have lasted more then a month from the beginning of last season.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 5 2008, 03:16 PM
Anyway back to the Nesta topic
And it's more bad new if this turns out to be true
Milan defender Alessandro Nesta could be forced to retire from football at just 32 years of age as a result of on-going injury problems, according to La Stampa...
Will injury spell the premature end to the distinguished career of AC Milan's centre-back Alessandro Nesta?
The Rossoneri stopper has spent more time in the treatment room than on the pitch over the past few seasons with an on-going back problem.
He has missed a number of important games for his side and he may end up missing the rest of this season - as well as future campaigns.
Turin-based newspaper La Stampa claims the former Italian international may have no choice but to hang up his boots as a result of his injury.
It is believed Nesta has a problem with a slipped disc in his back, and he has been allowed to fly back to Miami to see a specialist.
Reports suggest the stopper may even need an operation which could put his career in jeopardy. If Nesta does need surgery then the chances of his returning to the game will be slim.
The Italian has been a great servant to the club since joining them from Lazio in 2002.
Milan fans will be hoping the World Cup-winning defender doesn't need surgery so he can return to the pitch sooner rather than later.
Posted by: dst Nov 5 2008, 03:35 PM
Bull.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Nov 5 2008, 03:38 PM
I sure do hope this is just a case of media-fabrication!
btw...where is it sourced from han?
Posted by: acid911 Nov 5 2008, 04:28 PM
If it's true, that would be worst news I've heard all year. But I can sense it's just some journalist scavenging some food for his family - meaning fabricating things, as Trini just said. Nesta will be back, I know.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 5 2008, 04:29 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO
Posted by: Rivaldo Nov 11 2008, 04:23 PM
It is great, that Sandro doesn't play for National Team, if he would play, he might retire at the end of this season.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 13 2008, 03:39 PM
He won't 'quit' football all of a sudden, but saying he won't be able to play regularly again is not bullsh1t imo. I mean, Sergio is there for all to see. he rarely played in his last years with us.
It's a serious back problem we're talking about.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 30 2008, 10:48 AM
When will Sandro return? Any update?
Posted by: vnata001 Nov 30 2008, 11:20 AM
i fear the worst. every time it seems like he's a week away it somehow turns into "injury flames up out for another month..." realistically the rest of his stay at milan will resemble fat-naldo's stay with us..
Posted by: Tennie Nov 30 2008, 11:46 AM
The most recent theoretical return was that he'd rejoin the squad for the winter ritiro to Dubai. Haven't heard a word about how he's doing in Miami tho.
Posted by: Zed.D Dec 17 2008, 11:26 AM
The injury-plagued stopper is about to leave Florida, but could be forced to undergo surgery, and the Rossoneri are already weighing up potential January recruits to replace him...
Alessandro Nesta’s injury woes continue, as he looks set to turn to surgery in order to resolve his back problems once and for all.
The 32-year-old has yet to make his official debut this season, as he has only featured in a friendly game in Albania on October 14.
However, just when he seemed on the verge of returning to action, his back pain flared up again and Milan granted him permission to fly out to Miami to undergo a course of physiotherapy.
But Sportmediaset reports this morning that his intercontinental journey was to no avail, and he is expected to skip the Rossoneri winter camp in Dubai after Christmas.
It is alleged that the medical staff are mulling over the possibility of operating on the disc protrusion that has been tormenting him since last July, and the Diavoli are already in the process of scouring the transfer market for replacements.
Their main target seems to be Palermo centre-back Andrea Raggi, who is struggling to settle in at the Stadio Renzo Barbera, but Atalanta man Leonardo Talamonti could also be a viable option.
I don't know how reliable this news is. doesn't sound like BS to me..
Posted by: dst Dec 17 2008, 11:35 AM
If having a surgery means he'll get over it then he should have it even if it means he'll be out until next season. 
Damn I want to see him play again! It's so unfair...
Talamonti... that's my nickname on the field...
Posted by: Tennie Dec 17 2008, 01:01 PM
^^ It's a more or less accurate translation of the Mediaset article, zd. While I don't necessarily trust goal.com, Mediaset is usually reliable when it comes to this sort of thing.
Posted by: MizNelson Dec 18 2008, 02:46 AM
The Stampa article is pretty much BS, which can be said for just about any Italian Milan-related news outside Gazzetta dello Sport.
Posted by: Zed.D Jan 5 2009, 11:32 AM
Monday 5 January, 2009
Milan defender Alessandro Nesta is close to returning to action and is in a defiant mood.
The former Azzurri star has been unable to make a contribution to the Rossoneri cause this term due to injury problems.
There have been suggestions that the 32-year-old could be headed for retirement, but Nesta has no intention of hanging up his boots as he prepares to return from Miami where he has been recovering.
“I will be back in Italy on January 14 and the day after that I will be back at Milanello for physical preparations,” Nesta told Il Giornale.
“I know everything that is happening in Italy as I keep in touch and know exactly what is written.
“I know that you journalists have been predicting the worst and have said that I will never recover physically.
“However, the work I have done has paid off. I worked hard during these weeks and I am ready to return to Italy. I will not end my career yet.”
Hehe!
Posted by: Tennie Jan 5 2009, 12:28 PM
Very good news. Forza Nesta!
Posted by: Ry4n Jan 5 2009, 12:38 PM
Forza Nesta !!!!! 
Posted by: dst Jan 5 2009, 02:25 PM
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God!!! YES!!! YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! ****ING...
YEAH!!!
... what a sweet day! 
Posted by: Rivaldo Jan 5 2009, 03:18 PM
Forza Sandro! We need you.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jan 5 2009, 06:03 PM
^ [^ ...What Dst Said ^] ^
*patiently waiting* (as we did before with Pippo) - Nesta will return!
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 6 2009, 03:23 AM
Oh man... Pippo's return was magical... I hope it's the same with Nesta.
Posted by: Zed.D Jan 6 2009, 11:49 AM
I wish he could do a Maldini and play at least until he's 38... too bad he's injury prone.
Posted by: Tennie Jan 21 2009, 06:50 PM
from the ticker on gazzeetta's webpage:
[Alessandro Nesta is feeling better and is ready to return to Italy. The Milan defender has overcome the back problems that have tormented him for months and is now ready to return from Miami, where he was being treated. "I'm packing my bags and tomorrow will return to Italy," stated Nesta to Radio Raido, "Have I recovered? I feel good now, I feel really good."]
FINALLY.
Posted by: dst Jan 21 2009, 07:12 PM
I like him way too much and I don't want to get disappointed again so can't but have doubts over whether this is a full recovery or not...
Please Alessandro... come protect us and never leave us again!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jan 21 2009, 07:35 PM
wont believe anything until he is on the first team list playing a official game
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Jan 21 2009, 10:48 PM
What dst said:
Please Alessandro... come protect us and never leave us again!
I hear you bro!
Hope this time, its best for both parties Nesta as well as the club! (no rushed recoveries to result in injuries again)
*fingers crossed*
Forza NESTA!!!
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 21 2009, 11:09 PM
if hes back then we dont need to sign another defender. Forza nesta oh how we have missed you.
Posted by: kaka_sheva Jan 22 2009, 01:14 AM
[Alessandro Nesta is feeling better and is ready to return to Italy. The Milan defender has overcome the back problems that have tormented him for months and is now ready to return from Miami, where he was being treated. "I'm packing my bags and tomorrow will return to Italy," stated Nesta to Radio Raido, "Have I recovered? I feel good now, I feel really good."]
FINALLY.
he was here in the states??? woah.
I'm really excited for his return, and hopefully he'll be injury-free for a long time.
I miss his face...and his defending of course =P ...truly admirable.
Posted by: Zed.D Jan 22 2009, 01:20 AM
... +1 ... .
Posted by: Tennie Jan 22 2009, 01:23 AM
I'm really excited for his return, and hopefully he'll be injury-free for a long time.
I miss his face...and his defending of course =P ...truly admirable.
kakasheva, he's been in Miami since...october, I think. living somewhere on South Beach and doing rehab at a specialty clinic.
I miss him too, lots. When in form, I think he's the best centerback in the world.
As for his other attributes.... we both have to fight dst for dibs on him!
Posted by: Tennie Jan 22 2009, 01:01 PM
(from tuttomercatoweb)
[Alessandro Nesta has returned to Milan. The player landed at Linante this morning and is on his way to Milanello. After treatment in Miami, where he was for 3 months, the player declared himself 'ready to work. Remaining are tests on the field to prove there's no more danger.]
Posted by: Tennie Feb 14 2009, 03:02 AM
So. Nesta pulled up in training yesterday (Thursday) with pain in his lower back. There'll be exams and meetings tomorrow to plan the way forward.
Maybe we'll see him on the pitch again...sometime.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 14 2009, 03:14 AM
This is NOT funny anymore...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 14 2009, 04:34 AM
I'll be honest. I nearly laughed when I read that. It's so sad it's funny.
We either have too many injury prone players, or Milan Lab really need looking at! Their recovery projections and such have been terrible of late.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 14 2009, 12:48 PM
very sad to hear but we need to think abt life after maldini and nesta now
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 14 2009, 03:44 PM
this friggin suckssssssssss
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 14 2009, 05:49 PM
And no one expected that? 
I think if surgery can fix this problem, he should do it. he's wasting his time with all the recovery ****. he's still young for a Milan defender, and even if surgery requires 1 year away from football, it's still worth it. he's been returning since August 2008 for ****'s sake!
Posted by: Darunia Feb 14 2009, 06:44 PM
Surgery at this age? Sadly, I think retirement is a better option.
Posted by: pacang Feb 14 2009, 09:19 PM
truth always hurts..
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 14 2009, 09:56 PM
Plus Sergio did that surgery on his back and had to hang up his boots. Sad that it had to come to this for Nesta too
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 15 2009, 06:48 AM
I just don't know anymore. The surgery's been great for Paolo, but ruined Sergio. So... I just dunno. This sucks!
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 15 2009, 10:27 AM
The surgery was great for Paolo because it was on his knee... the back is a whole different story.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 15 2009, 10:33 AM
yea back i think is the most senstive part
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 15 2009, 11:24 AM
I think if surgery can fix this problem, he should do it. he's wasting his time with all the recovery ****. he's still young for a Milan defender, and even if surgery requires 1 year away from football, it's still worth it. he's been returning since August 2008 for ****'s sake!
You see, I get an allergy every time I see such posts. Same story as the retire-posts. And my response still is the same - it's easy to sit in a warm room and write down "don't waste time go to surgery". Try at least a little less ****'s and a bit more compassion.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 15 2009, 12:08 PM
It's your problem you have allergy to such posts not mine. I really like Nesta and I'm as angry and sad about this as everybody else. and I think he's wasting his time as he has been coming back since the start of the ******* season. open your eyes!!
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 15 2009, 03:52 PM
I feel sorry for Sandro, it can't be easy to think that the injury is behind you and get another huge setback. We should have bought Agger so Sandro did not have feel the pressure of returning to fast.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 15 2009, 04:21 PM
Then again, we should have done a lot of things.
And not done a lot of things, recently.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 15 2009, 04:28 PM
It's not a question of opening eyes. It's a question of taste.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 15 2009, 06:13 PM
Taste?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 15 2009, 06:27 PM
Yes. I think you comment is tasteless. But taste is unempiricall so I could be as much as wrong as right.
And "de gustibus non est disputandum" so it's my bad.
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 15 2009, 06:36 PM
Oh, I got it. saying Nesta will not be able to make a comeback like this and he's wasting his time as recurrent injury setbacks have undone his recovery program for the past 6 months is a tasteless comment... 
Fillipo, sometimes truth hurts. that's all I can say to you.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 15 2009, 06:40 PM
How about we all try to play nice in the sandbox?
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 15 2009, 06:47 PM
I'm OK with it
Posted by: dst Feb 16 2009, 02:53 PM
Monday 16 February, 2009
Milan defender Alessandro Nesta could be forced to retire early, as he goes under the knife again to resolve a chronic back problem.
The 32-year-old former Lazio captain has made just one appearance for the Rossoneri this season in a friendly against Albanian side Tirana in October.
Nesta was expected to make the squad for last night's Derby della Madonnina but it has now been revealed that he suffered a severe pain in his back on Wednesday.
The Italy international reportedly had trouble sleeping throughout the week and a decision to operate was made this morning.
It is the third time in the last year Nesta has suffered a relapse and frequent trips to a specialist in Miami appear to have done little good.
Milan have already moved to cover his position should he retire. Philippe Senderos is on loan from Arsenal and Thiago Silva will be available to play at centre-back next season.
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb16h.html
So... has it been decided? Will he be operated? It's for the best...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 16 2009, 02:59 PM
A.C. MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
16/02/2009
MILANO - L’ A.C. Milan comunica che il calciatore Alessandro Nesta verrà sottoposto domani mattina ad intervento chirurgico. L’operazione, coordinata dall’equipe medica del prof. Maurizio Fornari, verrà effettuata presso la clinica La Madonnina.
[AC Milan announces that the footballer Alessandro Nesta will have surgery tomororw. The operation, by the medical team of Professor Maurizio Fornari, will take place at the La Madonnina clinic.]
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 16 2009, 03:03 PM
Hope we'll win this Madonnina battle...
Posted by: dst Feb 16 2009, 03:13 PM
I wish it goes well and he lives a healthy life whether he continues to play football or not.
It's so unfair... he's the best and still has so much to give...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 16 2009, 03:19 PM
Agreed. What a disaster it is to loose the 2 world best defenders in one season...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 17 2009, 03:38 PM
17/02/2009
L'A.C. Milan comunica che il calciatore Alessandro Nesta è stato sottoposto questa mattina all'intervento chirurgico, annunciato nella giornata di ieri, effettuato dal Prof. Maurizio Fornari. L'intervento stesso è riuscito, il giocatore si è ripreso dall'anestesia e verrà dimesso nella giornata di domani. Per quanto riguarda i tempi, il Milan si riserva di valutare l'evoluzione della patologia nelle prossime settimane.
[AC Milan announces that the footballer Alessandro Nesta had surgery this morning, as previously announced. Professor Maurizio Fornari operated. The player is resting under anesthesia and will be released from hospital tomorrow. Milan will evaulate the results of the operation next week.]
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 19 2009, 01:43 PM
Those lines should usually come along with a "the surgery was successful', shouldn't they? 
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 19 2009, 01:47 PM
It was successful Zd .. And he is expected to make an appearance in the coming months
Posted by: Zed.D Feb 19 2009, 01:51 PM
It isn't mentioned in the official communication that it's been successful, hence the line "Milan will evaulate the results of the operation next week". I meant successful as in the problem's been fixed.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 19 2009, 01:55 PM
Only God knows that
Posted by: Tennie Mar 19 2009, 12:23 PM
19/03/2009
MILANO - Proprio nel giorno della Festa del Papà, Alessandro Nesta festeggia il suo compleanno. Doppi auguri per Sandro: in quanto papà, auguri che estendiamo a tutti i papà rossoneri per la giornata di oggi, e in quanto protagonista della propria festa di compleanno. Nato il 19 Marzo 1976, Nesta spegne oggi 33 candeline. Tanti Auguri!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SANDRO!
[On Father's Day, Alessandro Nesta celebrates his birthday. Double greetings for Sandro: as a father, as we wish for all rossoneri fathers a happy day, and also for his birthday. Born March 19, 1976, he's 33 today. Best wishes!]
19/03/2009
MILANO - Un sorriso speciale oggi per il festeggiato rossonero: sua moglie Gabriella, infatti, ha acquistato una mezza pagina della Gazzetta dello Sport in cui appare un coloratissimo "Tanti auguri Papà", firmato dai figli Sofia e Tommaso, raffigurati in un disegno in cui impugnano un aquilone.
NESTA'S BIRTHDAY: SIGNORA GABRIELLA'S GIFT
[A special smile today for the rossoneri birhtday boy: his wife Gabriella bought a half page advertisement in Gazzetta dello sport in which appears a brightly colored 'Best wishes Papa' signed by his children Sofia and Tomasso, wish a picture of children and a kite.]
Awww!
Posted by: dst Mar 19 2009, 01:13 PM
Happy Birthday!!! I LOVE YOU!!!
Please get back in the field!
Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 19 2009, 04:50 PM
Happy birthday! A year without nesta, it just doesn't feel the same.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Mar 20 2009, 01:23 AM
Happy Bday Alessandro.
May the Nesta Force return!
Posted by: Tennie Mar 20 2009, 01:51 AM
Trini!
Fishdoll +1 cookie cos he missed seeing you around!
Posted by: Ry4n Mar 20 2009, 03:05 AM
Happy birthday Alessandro !!!
Posted by: Zed.D Mar 20 2009, 11:35 AM
Happy-Birthday to Nesta!
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Mar 20 2009, 02:49 PM
Fishdoll +1 cookie cos he missed seeing you around!
Tell the fishdoll I said thanks!
Just been really busy since... pop in & out still from time to time.
Don't post as often though!
Oh Well don't worry MF will carry on just fine, with or without me
Posted by: Darunia Mar 20 2009, 06:51 PM
Happy Birthday Nesta! =D
Posted by: Tennie May 11 2009, 01:24 AM
"Il calcio mi manca molto, manco dal palcoscenico da un anno pero' sto iniziando a vedere la luce, ho ripreso ad allenarmi con la squadra e forse potrei tornare in campo già in questa stagione, se poi non sarà così rientrerò la prossima.
Chi ha scritto le cattiverie sul mio ritiro si prenderà le sue responsabilità la mia risposta la darò in campo.
Ancelotti? Penso che Carlo resterà con noi
[Alessandro Nesta spoke to Sky Italian before Milan-Juve:
'I've missed football a lot, having been out of the action for a year. Now I'm starting to see the light; I've started training with the team and might return to the pitch in this season, if not then then next.
Those who have written mischief about my retirement should take their responsibility; I'll give my response to them on the pitch.
Ancelotti? I think Carlo will stay with us.']
Better news to Fishdoll than a win over the Gobbi would have been!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 11 2009, 09:29 AM
no pint coming this season imo next season where he will get the summer to recover as well
Posted by: dst May 11 2009, 10:28 AM
Please let this be true. I cannot lose both my favorite players in a single season!!
Posted by: MizNelson May 12 2009, 07:55 PM
With Alessandro Nesta struggling to recover from his latest injury setback, Dave Taylor thinks it might be time for the stopper to retire
With reports that Milan have asked about Barcelona defender Carlos Puyol, it appears they are planning for a future without Alessandro Nesta – and maybe they should.
The 33-year-old defender sadly appears too injury prone to be relied upon and it seems the Via Turati powerbrokers feel, like myself, that the highly regarded Spanish international is probably the nearest thing to Nesta on the world stage.
When you factor in the retirement of Paolo Maldini it makes sense to bring in a top class, experienced European stopper. There is certainly no way Milan can continue to rely on midfielders moving back into defence or the likes of Kahka Kaladze, Giuseppe Favalli or Philippe Senderos if they want to make a splash next season, even with the arrival of Thiago Silva.
Like most Italian football fans I will be disappointed to see a player of the stature of Alessandro quit, if that is indeed what happens. His singular lack of games this term means he has lost almost a year of top class football and that, at his age, is a massive handicap.
It’s a real shame that we will no longer have the pleasure of watching him and Maldini share the field of play. The pair were absolute pillars in the five years leading up to 2007 European Cup Final. In that game Nesta’s brilliant last minute tackle on Liverpool’s Steven Gerrard was typical of the security he brought to Milan’s back line, something I doubt we will witness again.
Yet Maldini, who appears to have more faith in Nesta than the club, is insisting that his teammate will be back stronger than ever. I fear that on this occasion he is mistaken. Nesta might feel that he could carry on, but he should quit now and retire at the top.
I had no idea he was 33 already. Jeepers.
Posted by: Tennie May 12 2009, 08:32 PM
Fishdoll two-fin-salute to Channel 4!
Especially after Nesta's comments on Sunday.
Posted by: Tennie May 13 2009, 04:34 PM
(from today's training report on acmilan.com's italian page)
TAKE THAT, CHANNEL 4!
Posted by: Zed.D May 13 2009, 04:38 PM
Good news indeed!
Posted by: dst May 13 2009, 04:39 PM
I don't want to get excited as I don't want to get disappointed in case he doesn't come back.
I am happy and I wish he makes it!
As for the channel4 article... I don't know who the guy who wrote it is but he seems like a quitter to me!
Posted by: TriniKing_CE May 13 2009, 07:11 PM
Forza NESTA!!!
SuperPippo returned & so can you, I'm keeping the faith as always!
Posted by: dst May 31 2009, 10:35 PM
I can't believe he's back. I had convinced myself not to believe in his return so that I would not get disappointed... it's incredible!
We had the chance to experience the Nesta / Maldini partnership for one last time today...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 1 2009, 01:41 PM
After Pato's goal ... The footage didn't show the substitution, not did the commentary even know of it .. Until, the camera focused and zoomed on him. I nearly chocked on my snack and I just couldn't believe it was Nesta & Maldini !!!
Well, for that, never say Carlo didn't surprise you
Posted by: 6Best Jun 1 2009, 03:17 PM
Well, for that, never say Carlo didn't surprise you
Yeah , Carlo did a good thing before leaving .
Posted by: Minami Jun 1 2009, 03:37 PM
I was really happy to see him playing again, because the injury he had really seemed worse than I thought...
So I am even more happy that he made it. he could play with Maldini one last time...
Forza Nesta and a great next season !!!
Posted by: Tennie Jun 2 2009, 02:10 AM
When I saw the call ups for the game, my Scottish friend Caroline couldn't understand why I started squealing and jumping up and down excitedly. I was just opposite the Milan bench on Sunday and couldn't quite stop the smile when I saw him trot out with the subs. However, Fishdoll didn't disown me. I managed, just, not to squeal when he started warming up. It was only 15 minutes and he was understandably a bit rusty but there were a couple of moments of brilliance. It really was great to see him back.
Posted by: Minami Jun 2 2009, 01:22 PM
you take your fishdoll to milan games??
Posted by: Tennie Jun 2 2009, 02:04 PM
Yes, yes I do. Just ask dst.
Posted by: Minami Jun 2 2009, 02:22 PM
I know that she's your witness...
You were to both games? I thought you just went to the one at the San Siro..
Good to see you back. How was it in Italy?
Posted by: Tennie Jun 2 2009, 02:32 PM
Yep, I went to both games. Honestly, the second one was a far better game, rain notwithstanding.
Had a grand time in Italy -- good friends, good wine, lots of cool stuff to see (not counting the games), really nice hotels. It isn't often one pays 79 euros a night for a room with antique furniture, frescos on the ceiling, and a jacuzzi tub. That was particularly nice!
Posted by: Minami Jun 2 2009, 03:02 PM
wow so you had a great time there....
you know I wanted you to ask to send me a postcard from Italy as you offered to do so...but I thought that you don't know me as much as others....perhabs you'll be so kind to send me one the next time you go there. of course just if you don't mind. and I don't want to be pushy...not that you get me wrong...
Posted by: Tennie Jun 2 2009, 03:07 PM
Hah. I'm happy to send postcards to folks! Just let me know where/when. And I do send a lot of postcards so one more is in no way a problem!
Posted by: Minami Jun 2 2009, 03:33 PM
thank you a lot
just tell me when you want to travel again
Posted by: Tennie Jul 30 2009, 05:17 PM
Fishdoll is still not over all the squealing his person has been doing but even he is glad that Nesta is back and (nightmares in Munich aside) seems to be approaching good form.
Posted by: Danny Sep 1 2009, 11:03 AM
But his legs aren't.
That's 3 or 4 times in the opening 2 matches of the season he's let his man get inside him without any difficulty at all, and he's not had the pace to track back fast enough. Sometimes it's cost a goal, sometimes it hasn't.
I am the world's biggest Nesta fan, and I hope this is just a lack of match sharpness and fitness, but the opening 2 matches of the season don't bode well for him personally.
And I know there's a thread on Nesta in the player forum but I wanted to discuss this as its own issue if that's ok. If not, feel free to merge.
Posted by: m1ke Sep 1 2009, 03:09 PM
^^ Hi Danny,
As this is player specific, I'm going to merge it with Nesta's thread in the Players section (it'll probably get more attention there too).
Posted by: Locke Lamora Sep 1 2009, 03:17 PM
I can testify to that.
Posted by: Tennie Sep 1 2009, 03:22 PM
Do the entire Brigade have postcards now, Locke?
As for Nesta, I'm going to ascribe the lapses to match fitness for now. He WAS out all of last season (save 13 minutes on the last matchday). Thing is, we're very used to Nesta making no mistakes so to an extent it does remain to be seen.
Posted by: Danny Sep 1 2009, 06:27 PM
As for Nesta, I'm going to ascribe the lapses to match fitness for now. He WAS out all of last season (save 13 minutes on the last matchday). Thing is, we're very used to Nesta making no mistakes so to an extent it does remain to be seen.
I will too, and I will pray the old Nesta returns and that this poor start is not permanent.
Posted by: Danny Sep 1 2009, 06:28 PM
As this is player specific, I'm going to merge it with Nesta's thread in the Players section (it'll probably get more attention there too).
No worries
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 2 2009, 12:47 AM
That's 3 or 4 times in the opening 2 matches of the season he's let his man get inside him without any difficulty at all, and he's not had the pace to track back fast enough. Sometimes it's cost a goal, sometimes it hasn't.
I am the world's biggest Nesta fan, and I hope this is just a lack of match sharpness and fitness, but the opening 2 matches of the season don't bode well for him personally.
And I know there's a thread on Nesta in the player forum but I wanted to discuss this as its own issue if that's ok. If not, feel free to merge.
He's 33. Its going to happen so we have to get used to it. The only thing we can hope for is that Thiago Silva picks up where nesta cannot. In other words he needs to work on his positioning so it can compliment nesta. Right now they have very little chemistry and it usually takes 4-6 months for central defenders to find an understanding. Now the entire defence takes about 8 months to fully click, give that the members are consisentely playing with each other.
At least thats what my books on UEFA A/B lisences say, not sure I personally agree with it. I think its done in less time but who knows. I hope its done in less time because really can't wait until february to be solid.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 2 2009, 06:48 AM
^^
Can you mail me a copy of those books. I wanna write those tests too. I think I'll get into football management too. I suddenly want to try thhis 3-5-2 formation somewhere.
I think I'll first learn the ropes at some mediocre club like Villa, before moving onto bigger clubs like Newcastle.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 2 2009, 09:35 AM
Can you mail me a copy of those books. I wanna write those tests too. I think I'll get into football management too. I suddenly want to try thhis 3-5-2 formation somewhere.
I think I'll first learn the ropes at some mediocre club like Villa, before moving onto bigger clubs like Newcastle.
no problem, but its going to cost you 600 pounds
Oh and the test is a practical not written. Also comon jack lets be fair. Calling Villa a mediocre club just isn't right.
I would go for something much lower
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 2 2009, 11:20 AM
How can you have a practical test?
Do you have a set of students sitting in a classroom playing Football Manager against each other?
Or do they just give you two teams, and ask you to play against each other.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 10 2009, 05:38 PM
Do you have a set of students sitting in a classroom playing Football Manager against each other?
Or do they just give you two teams, and ask you to play against each other.
You run a practice which is 30 minutes for a topic which they give you. They judge you on several things like voice, positioning, knowledge of the game, dress, attitude, practice plan, how you run the drill, what your key points are etc etc etc.
Then you get a team and you play against other coaches in 11v11 situations. But you can't just simply play the game you must run the game according to your topic. So If I was doing overlapping runs or wing play and you were doing killer balls or long balls, they would judge us on who would run the game plan more efficiently in the game.
Then they score you out of a 100. You need 80 to pass. The average for most people on the practical ranges from 50-65.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 11 2009, 05:54 AM
Let me guess. You scored a 70..and now want to show us you're above average?! Bah..Mourinho would score a 95+.
You'll never manage Milan..at this rate you won't even manage Villa.
EDIT: Would the other coach know what tactics you're supposed to play? Will you be rated according to how you stop the other guy's tactics as well. I mean it seem pretty one-dimensional if you know he's going to use wings and not the centre..while if you knew he's going to use longballs and nothing else. You just double team the target man.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 11 2009, 08:43 AM
Awesome, Jack.
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 11 2009, 05:12 PM
Bah..Mourinho would score a 95+. You'll never manage Milan..at this rate you won't even manage Villa.
EDIT: Would the other coach know what tactics you're supposed to play? Will you be rated according to how you stop the other guy's tactics as well. I mean it seem pretty one-dimensional if you know he's going to use wings and not the centre..while if you knew he's going to use longballs and nothing else. You just double team the target man.
LOL thanks for the words of encouragement jack
Nah I haven't done the test yet. I'm still a little young and have lots to learn. I probably wouldn't score even 70 if I went. Its an extremely difficult examination. They fail 2/3 applicants at the program. They've failed academy coaches before and ex pros. They've failed people who've done drills for the likes of harry redknap for years. Its an exam that tests you on how good you really are. To score an 80 you must be absoloutly worldclass in relation to the course. So If I'm doing B licensence, I must be able to do the exam like i've had the B lisence for years and same goes with UEFA A and Pro. It really is a difficult exam. Failure rate is 70% on average. Thats why were lucky that Leonardo was able to get a buy into his lisence otherwise he probably would have failed his UEFA A.-Also no you do not know what he is running. You do know that he is going to be running a topic, but its uknown. They also test you on if you can read the game and see what he is playing and suit your style towards edging him while staying on topic, which sometimes is very hard. So yes they look at every aspect.
Once you get the lisence you can make big money so its not a joke. They take it very seriously.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 11 2009, 06:30 PM
Hmm...this course seems more and more fascinating by the minute. Good luck. And I really mean it this time!
Posted by: Danny Sep 11 2009, 11:11 PM
Very important for Sandro that he dusts himself off after his rather poor derby showing (and slightly lax Siena display as well) and tries to get to grips with what we know he (was once) capable of.
He's better than he's shown so far.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 12 2009, 04:30 AM
You're bringing it back to topic. You're evil!!
Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 12 2009, 08:25 AM
haha thanks but I don't need luck. I am the heir of the special one and have been gifted with godlike potential like the special one. I'll ofcourse lead milan to victory with a 70% winning avg
Furthermore, I'll take lessons from the special one. With this man as my mentor, I will win it all
Posted by: Tennie Oct 5 2009, 02:43 PM
So, Alessandro Nesta got a rating of 8 for the Atalanta game -- something of a miracle compared to how badly the rest of the team played. An Italian acquaintance who watched the game said that he effectively covered the defense and the midfield and played partially as a trequartista, including when he provided the assist to Ronaldinho for the goal.
My acquaintance also commented that he's been the only one of the senators who's given 100% each game, who's spoken well when interviewed, even after crappy games like the Atalanta one, and that he, really, is the de facto captain of the squad -- he's the only one really leading both on and off the pitch. The acquaintance also commented that despite his past with Lazio (where he was also captain), Nesta is the one really deserving of the armband right now.
Posted by: dst Oct 5 2009, 03:19 PM
All of the above is correct. We surely would have lost another game against Atalanta if it was not for him. He did everything!
Posted by: Habitant Oct 5 2009, 04:02 PM
My acquaintance also commented that he's been the only one of the senators who's given 100% each game, who's spoken well when interviewed, even after crappy games like the Atalanta one, and that he, really, is the de facto captain of the squad -- he's the only one really leading both on and off the pitch. The acquaintance also commented that despite his past with Lazio (where he was also captain), Nesta is the one really deserving of the armband right now.
dint see the game but wow, are we that pathetic that nesta has to do this now?!?!?!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 5 2009, 06:16 PM
Then give him the bleeding armband. I want some leadership in this team, some goddamn..f@cking accountability.
And make them all watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk
Posted by: MizNelson Oct 5 2009, 07:03 PM
There are folks out there who continue to insist that Pato is our best player.
Posted by: Zed.D Oct 5 2009, 07:20 PM
Out where exactly? The Idiots' Forum?
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Oct 6 2009, 01:33 AM
+1 Always felt this way...
Posted by: Bluesummers Oct 9 2009, 07:38 AM
hey may be our best player but thats not saying much.
No one on this squad can be considered good enough for Milan.
Posted by: Danny Oct 9 2009, 01:07 PM
I said before the season started that he should have been given the armband. He was the only candidate then, and he's the only candidate now.
And he's not even at 100%, nowhere near it.
It says something for how dire we are that a sub-par Nesta is the best current player at the club, Storari and Abate's current form notwithstanding.
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