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Jul 31 2019, 12:02 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 31 2019, 10:17 AM) I think expecting Leao and Bennacer to be immediate starters is a pipe dream. Especially counting on Leao to be a starter seems to me naive: the kid scored 8 goals and made 2 assists, he must adapt to the system and we must se if he can pull off a SS. I think he's mainly here because he's young and because we wanted a 2 in 1 striker who could pull off both positions. If we don't sign Correa our attack is insufficient.
As for Bennacer, we shall see. Much praise for the kid makes me hope he'll turn out good. But expecting him to fill Bakayoko's position immediately isn't realistic. It will be either Biglia starting, or (I hope) we manage to ship Biglia off to Genoa and sign a experienced organizer. Leao will start simply because we have no one else to pair with Piatek, unless we also sign Correa. And Bennacer is a sure starter. Given what I've seen of him, his superb performance at the Africa Cup and the comments I've read, I'm expecting great things from him. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 31 2019, 10:17 AM) You got me wrong back few days ago. When I said Milan must sign experienced players I wasn't thinking about Ronaldo or Bale who are unattractable. Nor did I mean has-beens like Higuain. I meant the thing Monaco did by signing experienced and intelligent players like Moutinho or Falcao. We need those kind of players (not them specifically because they are now too old). Because starting Serie A with a team full of kids and question marks and having a coach with zero experience at big clubs is a sure recipe for disaster. Especially now that the calendar is set and we can expect things heating up immensely around November. Monaco splashed 60M for Falcao, not exactly spare change. Moutinho cost 25M, but in 2013 that was easily the equivalent of, what, 35-40M right now? They also signed James for 70M during that summer. Monaco isn't exactly the perfect example to prove your point. Nowadays everyone costs, a lot. An unproven youngster like Leao costs 30M, a more well-known one like Correa costs 50M, and a proven and experienced player costs much, much more. We're simply outclassed in this aspect.
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Jul 31 2019, 03:02 PM
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Duarte and not Musacchio? This is hilarious. Won't even comment. Yes, Monaco spent much during that summer but those were just examples. If we have the money to bring a complete unknown quantity like Leao for more then 30 million, we should be able to sign someone like A. Witsel who signed for Dortmund for 20 million. Again, perhaps Falcao wasn't a good example but you know what I meant anyway (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And what... you think we'll start the season with 2 strikers and zero subs? I don't think so. I really think Leao has been signed as kind of a multiple option player or versatile striker. But I think what we need now is a older and solid backup striker. Also - I fear that we are relying too much on Piatek. If only we had someone like Dzeko or Immobile who could pull this off. With Piatek I'm unsure.
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Jul 31 2019, 11:38 PM
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Last I've seen is that Milan wants a fee.
@X-O: why do you have to be so black and/or white? I'm not against it, but if someone (like Zapata) is good or serves a purpose, I'm all against shipping him off just because he's 30+ or 28+ or whatever the demarcation is.
And for the last time I repeat: young and talented players - yes. No experienced players at all? No, I don't think this is the way to achieving something. Especially with that kind of coach.
As for the strikers, Silva is as good as gone. So we have Piatek and Leao as starters and Borini as backup. If Piatek gets injured we're f@cked and down the drain goes everything. Perhaps even with Correa.
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Aug 1 2019, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 31 2019, 11:38 PM) Last I've seen is that Milan wants a fee.
@X-O: why do you have to be so black and/or white? I'm not against it, but if someone (like Zapata) is good or serves a purpose, I'm all against shipping him off just because he's 30+ or 28+ or whatever the demarcation is.
And for the last time I repeat: young and talented players - yes. No experienced players at all? No, I don't think this is the way to achieving something. Especially with that kind of coach.
As for the strikers, Silva is as good as gone. So we have Piatek and Leao as starters and Borini as backup. If Piatek gets injured we're f@cked and down the drain goes everything. Perhaps even with Correa. I was not happy with Zapata (or Abate) leaving either, so why do you say I'm being black and white? I'm just saying that having a project with the focus on talented youngsters rather than on free agent and old has-been's like in the Galliani days is a good direction. QUOTE If Piatek gets injured we're f@cked and down the drain goes everything. Perhaps even with Correa. You tend to do this. You exaggerate when you're being negative. If Piatek gets injured, we'll still have Correa-Leao, with Borini or even Suso in case of emergency as back-ups. So, how exactly would we be f@cked?
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Aug 1 2019, 03:14 PM
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Well...
Firstly, you say I'm not fair when judging you for having a black & white perspective. Then you bring in Galliani. Where did I exactly say we have to be like Galliani and bring in has-been's and freebies? I said our teams lacks experience which is dangerous considering the overall constellation.
Freebies can turn out great or bad: not every singing of a +30 player or a free agent has automatically to do with Galliani's thinking.
As for the second part - do I really exaggerate?? You're honestly bringing in Suso as an option? The guy can barely play a consistent season playing his best position. Now you would not only move him to AM but also try him as a striker in times of need? Correa is far from signed (Tottenham interest now), so all we have right now is a departing Silva and Leao, one of which should be a starter.
And again you're missing the bigger context. Giampolo's system thrives on dynamics and the striker pairing. Not only we don't know that Leao and Piatek will link, we also don't have any viable sub for Piatek who will be crucial to the new system. No, I really don't think this is something less important...
Also, consider the bigger picture. Inter just got stronger with Conte and their revamp, especially in defense. Juventus is piling up stars although I have my doubts considering Sarri - but they certainly don't look weaker. Roma is also doing everything to avoid last seasons scenario. Napoli will surely be much stronger in their second season under Ancelotti. Now let me ask you this: with our current signings and departures, are we much stronger then last season?
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Aug 1 2019, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 1 2019, 03:14 PM) Well...
Firstly, you say I'm not fair when judging you for having a black & white perspective. Then you bring in Galliani. Where did I exactly say we have to be like Galliani and bring in has-been's and freebies? I said our teams lacks experience which is dangerous considering the overall constellation.
Freebies can turn out great or bad: not every singing of a +30 player or a free agent has automatically to do with Galliani's thinking. I didn't say you mentioned Galliani. I brought him up because we lived under his transfer management for many years, so that's my benchmark when comparing the new direction. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 1 2019, 03:14 PM) As for the second part - do I really exaggerate?? You're honestly bringing in Suso as an option? The guy can barely play a consistent season playing his best position. Now you would not only move him to AM but also try him as a striker in times of need? Correa is far from signed (Tottenham interest now), so all we have right now is a departing Silva and Leao, one of which should be a starter.
And again you're missing the bigger context. Giampolo's system thrives on dynamics and the striker pairing. Not only we don't know that Leao and Piatek will link, we also don't have any viable sub for Piatek who will be crucial to the new system. No, I really don't think this is something less important...
Also, consider the bigger picture. Inter just got stronger with Conte and their revamp, especially in defense. Juventus is piling up stars although I have my doubts considering Sarri - but they certainly don't look weaker. Roma is also doing everything to avoid last seasons scenario. Napoli will surely be much stronger in their second season under Ancelotti. Now let me ask you this: with our current signings and departures, are we much stronger then last season? Suso is a forward. A winger, but still he plays in attack. So, I don't see how that is an exaggeration as an emegency 5th option in attack. And as for you question, I certainly think so. What departures are you talking about? Zapata, Abate, Montolivo, Bertolacci, Jose Mauri and Cutrone? They were hardly part of our team last season, save for Cutrone, whom I don't rate at all.
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Aug 2 2019, 11:57 AM
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https://www.football-italia.net/141569/rafa...milan-sacrificeInteresting read. I also don't think he will be a first team player directly. In my opinion, we will try to ship off Andre Silva, and then buy Correa. This would leave us with Piatek-Correa partnership in front with Leao being backup. We could play something like this: Donnarumma Conti - Musacchio - Romagnoli - Theo/Rodriguez Kessie - Bennacer/Biglia - Paqueta Suso/Hakan Correa(Leao) - Piatek/*
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