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Posted by: misha Jun 10 2007, 05:22 PM

Group A :
Israel
Holland
Portugal
Belgium

Group B :
Italy
England
Serbia
Czech Republic

Four best teams going to Olimpics games.

Posted by: misha Jun 10 2007, 05:38 PM

Today games:

Netherlands 18:15 Israel

Portugal 20:45 Belgium


Czech Republic 18:15 England

Serbia 20:45 Italy

Posted by: Portikins Jun 10 2007, 05:42 PM

I'm watching Holland-Israel.

25' 1-0

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 10 2007, 07:12 PM

biggrin.gif MVB'll be keeeping his eyes open...current team is cr@p. Mainly coz none of them remember how to play the 4-3-3. Except maybe Robben.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 10 2007, 07:16 PM

Holland 1-0 Israel FT
Decent start for the hosts, I thought they were a little disappointing though.

Just looked at the line-ups for the Portugal - Belgium games.

I believe I've only heard of a couple of players from either side, they must play club football in their own country or something.

Antunes had better come on for Portugal at some point, I need to see the kid for myself. biggrin.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 10 2007, 07:22 PM

sad.gif sad.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 10 2007, 07:33 PM

I expected the Netherlands to trounce Israel in the first game; I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Israeli U21s played. There are some very good young players on the team. They could easily have gotten an equalizer.

The Portuguese U21s are...wow. A very strong team. A pretty good percentage of the starters are from Sporting (Nani, Moutinho, Veloso at least. I think a couple more?). I'm looking forward to seeing how they do.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 10 2007, 07:45 PM

misha...I know ur heartbroken...but any dutch bloke u saw, who could be good?

I need to place a call through to Marco...

Posted by: Tennie Jun 10 2007, 08:03 PM

Ryan Babel is good for the Netherlands, Jack.

Watching the Belgium-Portugal game now (0-0 in the 17th min). The Belgians look like they're trying to foul Nani out of the game.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 10 2007, 08:08 PM

Ahh yes..Babel the Ajax kid...actually I'd prefer it if we bagged Eto'o and then nailed this kid(on the transfer market...b4 all the dirty minds on the forum go bark! tongue.gif).

So he's also a wing forward. Right footed kid who plays sublime on the left. Can be exactly like Henry, play outside on the left and cut in and bring players in.

Heck if MVB says, he's got the potential to be better than Henry, who the f@ck are we to argue??!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 10 2007, 08:11 PM

I can bet you anything Babel has no future on the left hand side of the Dutch national team.

He only has Robin van Persie, Rafael van Der Vaart and Arjen Robben's superb left foot to contend with. tongue.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 10 2007, 08:17 PM

Well Marco mostly plays RVP on the right...coz he needs someone with brains on the wing forward role. You could see Robben and RVP carry that Dutch side....last WC

Robben gets injured pretty easily, so that's no issue. And as for Van der Vaart, he's like their number 10 isn't he?

He can play down the middle for them...Babel will get his chance...

Posted by: Tennie Jun 10 2007, 08:18 PM

Er. Robben, Van der Vaart and Van Persie are AMs, correct? Babel is a number 9. No conflict between him and them.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 10 2007, 08:20 PM

van Der Vaart and van Persie play in their respective positions because Robben has the left wing nailed down.

The World Cup showed this with van Persie on the right and van Der Vaart on the bench. How a player of his quality is on the bench is beyond me, even if you play him out of position, get him on the pitch!

Posted by: misha Jun 10 2007, 08:23 PM

Apart from Babel, Aissati can became a very good player. He played today only 40 min cuz of injury. He's small, fast ,has a very good technique and playing RAM or SS.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 10 2007, 08:33 PM

Portugal 0-0 Belgium HT
Portugal haven't been that impressive, but they've had their players kicked all over the place. Belgium are alot better than I thought, might make that group a little more interesting.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 10 2007, 09:01 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 10 2007, 07:33 PM)
The Portuguese U21s are...wow. A very strong team. A pretty good percentage of the starters are from Sporting (Nani, Moutinho, Veloso at least. I think a couple more?). I'm looking forward to seeing how they do.
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I don't think our U21 is strong. Have 4 or 5 good players, the others are average.

Strong teams: Italy, Holland + France and Spain, although the last 2 are not in the European.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 10 2007, 09:35 PM

0-0, bad match, bad result for us. We're not gonna make the semis.

Now, on Wednesday, we'll get r*ped by Holland.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 10 2007, 10:01 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 10 2007, 08:01 PM)
I don't think our U21 is strong. Have 4 or 5 good players, the others are average.

Strong teams: Italy, Holland + France and Spain, although the last 2 are not in the European.
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I'm quietly confident England can finally win a trophy, our recent results shows we're very strong.

ENGLAND 1-0 GERMANY
Baines 77

GERMANY 0-2 ENGLAND
Walcott 84, 90

HOLLAND 0-1 ENGLAND
Hoyte 12

ENGLAND 2-2 SPAIN
Soldado 35
Marin 45
Nugent 49
Lita 79


ENGLAND 3-3 ITALY
Gianpaulo Pazzini 1, 53, 68
David Bentley 30
Wayne Routledge 52
Matt Derbyshire 58


ENGLAND 5-0 SLOVAKIA
Richardson (pen) 35
Reo-Coker 61
Taylor 77
Huddlestone 82
Lita 84


We've shown that against some of the top teams (Italy, Germany, Spain & Holland) That we're more than good enough to match them, or beat them.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 10 2007, 10:45 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 10 2007, 10:01 PM)
I'm quietly confident England can finally win a trophy, our recent results shows we're very strong.

How could I forget such an arrogant b*stards? biggrin.gif

Yes. England is in the top-teams too. Much better than Portugal. You'll go to the Olympics, for sure.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 10 2007, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 10 2007, 09:45 PM)
How could I forget such an arrogant b*stards?  biggrin.gif

Yes. England is in the top-teams too. Much better than Portugal. You'll go to the Olympics, for sure.
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Spain have a pretty solid U21 team, not sure if there in the championship though

Are they?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 10 2007, 10:54 PM

We'd better make it to the Olympics.

How does the tournement work?
Top 2 from each group go through (And qualify for the Olympics) and then it's just a knockout between those 4 for the winner?

QUOTE
Spain have a pretty solid U21 team, not sure if there in the championship though

Are they?

No. Israel, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, England, Italy, Czech Republic and Serbia.

Posted by: amancik Jun 11 2007, 03:19 AM

Why isn't France in it?
Did I miss anything?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 03:25 AM

They must not have qualified.

Posted by: amancik Jun 11 2007, 03:35 AM

Damn, I won't get to see Gourcuff then
How come Nasri is in the senior squad and he isn't?

Posted by: misha Jun 11 2007, 07:12 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 10 2007, 11:35 PM)
0-0, bad match, bad result for us. We're not gonna make the semis.

Now, on Wednesday, we'll get r*ped by Holland.
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I don't think so. Holland ain't that strong

QUOTE (amancik @ Jun 11 2007, 05:19 AM)
Why isn't France in it?
Did I miss anything?
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Israel eliminated them.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 11 2007, 11:43 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 10 2007, 10:54 PM)
We'd better make it to the Olympics.

How does the tournement work?
Top 2 from each group go through (And qualify for the Olympics) and then it's just a knockout between those 4 for the winner?
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Y. cool.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 11 2007, 06:05 PM

HT. England 0 - Czech Republic 0.

2 yellow cards for England (Nugent & Richardson).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 06:27 PM

Carson just made another outstanding save. Hopefully he leaves Liverpool, he has no future there.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 07:03 PM

First right decision the referee made all night, clear handball in the area.

England, as usual, miss the penalty ('87). rolleyes.gif

FT: 0-0.

We're going to really struggle to go through now.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 11 2007, 07:14 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 11 2007, 07:03 PM)
England, as usual, miss the penalty ('87).  rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Always the same good Ol'Ingurlund. biggrin.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 07:20 PM

If we weren't so bad at penalties, we'd have won about 3 World Cups by now, easily. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 11 2007, 07:21 PM

they must take three pts or else all the pressure on them to get results against england and czechs.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 11 2007, 07:22 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 11 2007, 01:20 PM)
If we weren't so bad at penalties, we'd have won about 3 World Cups by now, easily.  rolleyes.gif
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lol ur not the only ones who have been screwed on penalties. our win against france was our first ever shoutout win at the WC. and we did lose a final on penalties rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 07:24 PM

Losing penalty shoot-outs is fair enough. But NOBODY should ever miss a penalty, I don't see how you can not be accurate from 12 yards, f*ck even I can score penalties!

Posted by: misha Jun 11 2007, 07:25 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 11 2007, 09:20 PM)
If we weren't so bad at penalties, we'd have won about 3 World Cups by now, easily.  rolleyes.gif
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One max. Maybe in 1990. None of them was in the final.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 07:30 PM

Yeah. Just the 2 World Cups then. I forgot '96 was a Euro year.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 07:39 PM

Italy U21 - Serbia U21

Italy Line-up:

------------------- Curci -------------------

Raggi - Mantovani - Andreolli - Chiellini

----------------- Nocerino -----------------

------------ Aquilani -- Motolivo ---------

Rosina --------------------------- Palladino

------------------- Pazzini ------------------

Posted by: Tennie Jun 11 2007, 07:51 PM

The Azzurrini are playing in their white (away) kit. Hopefully it'll be lucky for them!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 08:08 PM

Goalkeeper change for Italy. Curci out (Muscle injury by the looks of things), Viviano in.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 11 2007, 08:14 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 11 2007, 02:08 PM)
Goalkeeper change for Italy. Curci out (Muscle injury by the looks of things), Viviano in.
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damn!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 08:23 PM

Maybe it's because they're opening games, maybe it's the very poor refereeing on show. But this tournement has been pretty awful as of yet, only 1 goal to show for in 300 minutes, let's hope it improves.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 11 2007, 09:02 PM

*hop* Rossi is warming up.

And....goal Milanovic in the 63rd min. Serbia 1 - Italy 0. mad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 09:04 PM

Serbia 1-0 Italy

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 11 2007, 09:15 PM

huge blow

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 09:22 PM

I think it's the worst possible news for England, if Serbia win I think we'll have to beat Italy, which I don't see us doing, or we're out. sad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 11 2007, 09:36 PM

Serbia 1-0 Italy FT
This is a very bad result. England - Italy on thursday is HUGE

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 11 2007, 09:58 PM

well terrible result for italy but, hey if they wanna win the comp they'll have to beat teams like england and czechs. so you can't just count on the "easier" like serbia.

Posted by: dst Jun 13 2007, 02:12 PM

Curci is definitely the best goalie of the tournament. He's a great talent and I hope he will be available for the next matches! Too bad he's a Roma product, those lads come out faithful! dry.gif biggrin.gif

The other two I like from the Italian team are Montolivo wub.gif and Pazzini. Both Fiorentina players. I guess most of you have already heard about Pazzini but Montolivo is something else... we should go for him, no doubt. He's so reminiscent of Pirlo and I'm almost certain that he's going to be his replacement in the Italy NT. I hope he'll replace him in Milan too!

From the other teams I like the following: (I LIKE THEIR FOOTBALL SKILLS!!!)
Portugal: Moutinho, the short one and Machado... the latter will hopefully play in one of the following games.
England: Leroy Lita. Not great but his name is cool! tongue.gif
Serbia. I think they have a very good team. Many of those youngsters will be in the Euro '08 if the senior team go through! Rukavina, Babović and ToÅ¡ić.
Israel: Ben Sahar is good but not that good. He's a Chelsea player isn't he? They know better than me of course...

Now get me Riccardo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! king.gif king.gif wub.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 13 2007, 02:22 PM

I like Moutinho too, dst. Even if he IS a Sporting player.

Fiorentina have a very good crop of young players -- Montolivo is one to watch.

The one Israeli player I really like, though he didn't show best form in the first game, is Toto Tamuz.

Be interesting to see what happens in today's big game: Portugal v. Netherlands part three. Hopefully NOT a record number of cards....

Posted by: misha Jun 13 2007, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 13 2007, 04:22 PM)
The one Israeli player I really like, though he didn't show best form in the first game, is Toto Tamuz.
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He came to the tournament a little bit injured.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 13 2007, 02:40 PM

Today it's Israel-Belgium at 17:15 (GMT) and Netherlands-Portugal at 19:45.

Posted by: misha Jun 13 2007, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 13 2007, 04:12 PM)
Israel: Ben Sahar is good but not that good. He's a Chelsea player isn't he? They know better than me of course...
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In 2-3 years he will be a starter in EPL. BTW he's the youngest player in the competition (17).

Posted by: Tennie Jun 13 2007, 05:29 PM

Man. The Belgians aren't taking any prisoners. Very physical team.

Posted by: misha Jun 13 2007, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 13 2007, 07:29 PM)
Man. The Belgians aren't taking any prisoners. Very physical team.
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And they were rewarded with red card. We need to take advantage of this.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 13 2007, 07:55 PM

Israel 0-1 Belgium
18' [Red Card] M. Fellaini
82' [0 - 1] K. Mirallas

Great result for Belgium, to play that long with 10 men, and to win, is very impressive.

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Holland - Portugal is ten minutes young, from the start it shows signs of being a top game.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 13 2007, 08:23 PM

Holland 1-0 Portugal.

Babel penalty. It clearly wasn't, awful decision by the ref in my opinion.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 13 2007, 08:40 PM

It was a clear penalty. Stupid keeper. Just like our coach.

Anyway... we're sh!t. We don't deserve the Olympics.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 13 2007, 08:44 PM

On seeing the half time replays I'm uncertain from all angels. As the ref I wouldn't have given it, I wouldn't be 100%.

I really don't think it matters that you lose today. If you beat Israel (Very likely) and Holland beat Belgium (Can you see Holland doing Belgium any favours? laugh.gif ), You have a chance to go through, if it goes on goal difference. So I wouldn't panic yet.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 13 2007, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 13 2007, 08:44 PM)
So I wouldn't panic yet.
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Panic? Cmon... this is a u-21 European Championship... not a AA World Cup. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 13 2007, 09:06 PM

Maybe the wrong choice of words there. tongue.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 13 2007, 09:17 PM

Holland 2-0 Portugal. Game over. '75.

EDIT: Maybe not, superb free-kick from Veloso. 2-1. '77.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 13 2007, 09:25 PM

Onighted fans must be thinking "We paid 25,5 million euros for Nani. What a robbery. The **** is not worth even half of that." rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 13 2007, 09:28 PM

I've not heard his name all tournement. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 14 2007, 02:15 AM

Finally getting a chance to watch today's games. Veloso really was rather impressive. But the Portuguese goalie....I believe the right word in Portuguese is 'frango'. Oy. It'd be nice if the youth setups could produce a goalie and striker or two instead of a succession of world-class wingers.

The Dutch looked pretty good, as one would expect.

The Israelis looked good, but just weren't able to put away the chances they had.

The Belgians...man. Bunch of thugs, that lot.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 02:21 AM

Does anybody know why the Dutch keeper went off, I was listening to music at the time so I didn't hear a reason?

Posted by: Tennie Jun 14 2007, 02:28 AM

Waterman had a back injury, I think.

Speaking of keepers, it looks like Curci is definitely out of tomorrow's Italy-England game. His injury is 'being evaluated'.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 02:48 AM

I'll see that as good news for us.

They don't even need a keeper with the way we played in the first game, even the penalty was a complete miss.

I'm not too sure how I want the Serbia - Czech game to go, whichever result will benefit both England and Italy, I wouldn't like to see either miss out on the olympics. sad.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 14 2007, 08:03 PM

Anybody saw Lita's SUPER MISS? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Italian keeper is sh!t. Pure sh!t.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 08:19 PM

It's a shame to see Italy go out, but I'm confident we can go all the way on the display we've put in on this first half hour, we've ripped them to shreds. cool.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 14 2007, 08:20 PM

GOOLLLL! ITALIA! Lucky goal.

2-1. Anyway... England is MUCH BETTER than Italy. Way way better.

Juventus's Chiellini scored.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 08:20 PM

Me and my big mouth. rolleyes.gif

Should be 2-2 great header, even better save. Phew.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 14 2007, 08:49 PM

Ashley Young = England best player.
That Nuggent guy is not bad. Preston player isn't it? Historic team.

The keeper, Carson (Liverpool's right?) is very good too.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 08:55 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 14 2007, 07:49 PM)
Ashley Young = England best player.
That Nuggent guy is not bad. Preston player isn't it? Historic team.

The keeper, Carson (Liverpool's right?) is very good too.
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I'd like to think Ashley's our best player. biggrin.gif

Yep, Preston are pretty similar to us, won loads of trophies early on. We were like United and Liverpool of the 19th century. rolleyes.gif
He's going to leave Preston though, they've made the play-offs 4 times in the last 5 years and not won promotion. He's an Everton fan so is favourites to go there.

Carson is a Liverpool keeper, but needs to leave. He's only going to get worse because he's never going to be better than Reina.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 14 2007, 09:06 PM

Geez. James Milner is 21? I thought he was 26 or something... laugh.gif rolleyes.gif


Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 09:10 PM

He doesn't look good for his age at all. He could become a top player.

2-2. Aquilani, great strike. We're being owned at the moment, we need to make some subs. rolleyes.gif

If we can hold on for a draw, a win against Serbia will surely put us through. This isn't TOO disasterous for us.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 14 2007, 09:11 PM

2-2. Nice shot.

England seems really tired.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 09:15 PM

Give Ashers the ball, let him run at their right back. There's only going to be one winner.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 14 2007, 09:37 PM

I have to say I've been very disappointed at the referees in this tournement, they've been sh!t. Way too many yellow cards have been shown, Ashley Young's now suspended for the next game. sad.gif

England 2-2 Italy FT
Italy, on their second half showing, are by far the best team in the World at this level, they had 31 shots in the game, that's unbelievable. We robbed them of two points in my opinion. Thankfully it's still in our hands to go through.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 15 2007, 03:22 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 14 2007, 03:37 PM)
I have to say I've been very disappointed at the referees in this tournement, they've been sh!t. Way too many yellow cards have been shown, Ashley Young's now suspended for the next game.  sad.gif

England 2-2 Italy FT
Italy, on their second half showing, are by far the best team in the World at this level, they had 31 shots in the game, that's unbelievable. We robbed them of two points in my opinion. Thankfully it's still in our hands to go through.
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it's a shame italy is probably going out. serbia dont have to do anything to be first place, although it will be the same with czechs for italy

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 15 2007, 03:36 AM

I think we'll beat Serbia to go through, facing the Dutch in the semi's. dry.gif

I thought Italy would win the group, clearly, what a disaster it's been for them.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 16 2007, 05:12 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 14 2007, 09:36 PM)
I think we'll beat Serbia to go through, facing the Dutch in the semi's. dry.gif

I thought Italy would win the group, clearly, what a disaster it's been for them.
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i had a feeling something like this would happen, ah well can't win em all...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 10:45 AM

I can't say I'm too bothered, if Italy go out it just gives us better chance. wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 11:39 AM

QUOTE
Pierluigi Casiraghi claims Stuart Pearce is 'not the nicest person' after Italy Under 21s drew 2-2 with England.
Pearce is not a favourite with the Italians following his performances against the Azzurri during his England playing career.

His conduct as a coach has also been brought into question after England squandered a 2-0 lead in their European Under 21 Championship game in Arnhem.

Casiraghi confronted Pearce at the end of the game and, whilst playing down the row, he concedes he is not a fan of the former Nottingham Forest full-back.

"The match was a little bit nervous and during the game sometimes it's difficult for coaches to hold," said Casiraghi.

"He is not the nicest person, we exchanged opinions, but it's nothing important.

"On the pitch during the game he was not very correct towards myself.

"There was just a short exchange of views on the pitch, but it was nothing important."

Italy must now beat Czech Republic to hold any chance of reaching the semi-finals and Casiraghi accepts drawing with England was not the desired result.

He added: "It was a bad result. We conceded two goals and it could have been even worse.

"But we had a good second half and could have changed the result completely."

I claim: Casiraghi is a girl.

Some people complain about anything. Does he really think Pearce got the nickname 'Psycho' for being the nicest person on the planet? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 07:41 PM

Belgium - Holland
Portugal - Israel


Simultaneous kick-offs.

I think there may be another fixed match in order, between two rivals, to make sure they both go through. Similar to that of Denmark vs Sweden from Euro 2004.

Belgium and Holland to draw. Portugal to win.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 07:54 PM

ohmy.gif

Belgium 1-0 Holland. I still think it'll be a draw.

EDIT: Belgium 1-1 Holland. rolleyes.gif

EDIT 2: Belgium 1-2 Holland. Israel 0-1 Portugal. As it stands Portugal go through with Holland.. I think? Maybe not? huh.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 16 2007, 08:32 PM

Israel 0-2 Portugal at the HT. 2 great goals.
1st by M.Fernandes... amazing midfielder (he said today that he's probably back in Benfica next season after 2 seasons on-loan in the EPL). The 2nd by Bolton's kid Vaz Te, nice header.

Belgium 1-2 Holland

With this... Portugal gets the 2nd place. We'll see what happens in the 2nd half.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 16 2007, 08:36 PM

That Vaz Te goal was pretty. Forca Portugal!

Edit: But Veloso's free-kick and Nani's piledriver were nicer. ohmy.gif

Portugal 4- Israel 0.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 08:59 PM

Wow, I only went to get something to eat, I come back and it's 4-0. ohmy.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 09:12 PM

Belgium 2-2 Holland. Poor goalkeeping, not that he didn't mean to do it. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 16 2007, 09:12 PM

Nani injuried. rolleyes.gif

Belgium 2-2 Holland. We're fvcked. 3rd place... great goalkeeping by Holland. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 16 2007, 09:34 PM

So predictable... 2-2 in Holland-Belgium. Just like the Denmark-Sweden in the Euro 2004 when they sent Italy out of the tournament.

I guess we've to wait to see if England goes trought and then we might go to the 3rd place playoffs to the Olympics with the 3rd place in England's group.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 16 2007, 09:45 PM

Don't worry, you'll get that 3rd place play-off. wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 16 2007, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 16 2007, 09:45 PM)
Don't worry, you'll get that 3rd place play-off.  wink.gif
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Then we'll get fvcked by Italy. biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 17 2007, 05:30 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 16 2007, 11:34 PM)
So predictable... 2-2 in Holland-Belgium. Just like the Denmark-Sweden in the Euro 2004 when they sent Italy out of the tournament.
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Sorry for Portugal they played good yesterday. Too bad it wasn't enough.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 17 2007, 07:50 PM

Italy 1 - Czech Republic 0 (Aquilani) 3d minute
England 1 - Serbia 0 (Lita) 4th minute

Italy 1 - Czech Republic 1 (Papadopulos) 14th minute

Italy 2 - Czech Republic 1 (Chiellini) 29th minute

Italy 3 - Czech Republic 1 (Rossi!) 45th minute

England 1 - Serbia 0 (Derbyshire) 77th minute

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 17 2007, 10:29 PM

Did anybody see the Serbia players after England scored the second goal? They were practically hitting Derbyshire. They had a player down and we didn't kick it out, Derbyshire was through, what did they expect him to do.. Miss on purpose?

Let's hope Serbia and Belgium kill each other in the semi-finals, neither of them know how to play football, just fight. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 04:51 AM

QUOTE
Lita: Hoyte 'racially abused'

Stuart Pearce's side reached the semi-finals of the European Under 21 Championship with the victory in Nijmegen, but the headlines are likely to be dominated by events off the field.

The announcer in Nijmegen had to appeal to Serbia fans to stop levelling racist abuse at Nedum Onuoha in the first half, and both teams clashed in the tunnel after a controversial second goal from Matt Derbyshire.

Uefa could well act after receiving their delegate's report of the game, and Lita has given them further food for thought by claiming that Arsenal defender Hoyte was the subject of racist abuse in the tunnel.

Full Article: http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=472383&CPID=445&clid=114&lid=2&title=Lita:+Hoyte+'racially+abused'&channel=football_home&

Surely people still don't result to this?

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 18 2007, 06:19 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 17 2007, 04:29 PM)
Did anybody see the Serbia players after England scored the second goal? They were practically hitting Derbyshire. They had a player down and we didn't kick it out, Derbyshire was through, what did they expect him to do.. Miss on purpose?

Let's hope Serbia and Belgium kill each other in the semi-finals, neither of them know how to play football, just fight.  rolleyes.gif
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dude... the only reason he was thru was because the whole left flank was completly open because of the injured serb. i dint see the whole play but all i see is derbyshire taking advantage of an injured player.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 09:19 PM

If I remember rightly their player went down in an earlier attack. Our move broke down and they cleared the ball down field. Why not kick it out of play to get him treatment? They had the chance to kick it out, as did we. They didn't, so why should we?

This is where European football needs to learn from the Premiership. The referee is in charge, nobody else. If a plyer is down and the ref feels he needs to stop the game then he'll blow the whistle, otherwise it's play on.

It stops divers and cheats.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 20 2007, 05:52 PM

Semifinals are now underway.

England and the Netherlands are goalless in the 30th minute. Lot of fouls by the Dutch, but they've also had 5 shots on goal compared to England's 1.

EDIT: But it's England's Leroy Lita who scores in the 39th.

EDIT 2: And Rigters equalizes for the Netherlands in the 89th minute. Pretty goal.

Looks like it's going to extra time.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 07:41 PM

I think it's almost pointless England going through now. We've got 4 suspensions and 2 or 3 injured from our first team. We'll just end up with heartbreak in the Final. Unless of course miracles do happen.

FT: Penalties it is.

Whether we lose or win it doesn't matter. We've played with 10 men throughout extra time, against the hosts, holders and the best team. It's simple maths though. England + Penalties = We all know. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 20 2007, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 20 2007, 06:41 PM)
England + Penalties = We all know.  rolleyes.gif
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Surely we can win once rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 07:52 PM

Super Ashley Young! 1-0. cool.gif

Babel 1-1

Milner 2-1!

Drenthe hit the post - 2-1 England!

Noble 3-1!

Janssen - 3-2 England

Hoyte saved 3-2. The keeper was on the penalty spot when he kicked it. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 20 2007, 07:53 PM

Holland also have a bad history with Penalties

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 20 2007, 07:56 PM

How is the keeper getting away with it?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 07:57 PM

Derbyshire 4-3. Holland MUST score.

gone to 5-4 England. Carson scored. tongue.gif

7-6 England. Rosenior, sorry I've been messing the numbers up. tongue.gif

7-7

Reo-Coker - Saved. 7-7.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 08:08 PM

Well we're back to the start. Trust there to be different rules for England though.

Young scores, England lead.

Dutch score. Level.

Milaner scores, back in front!

Level again. laugh.gif

Noble.. England lead. biggrin.gif

11-11. laugh.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 20 2007, 08:11 PM

I'm currently watching it on Eurosport....man...that's the most boring PK shootout I've ever seen...seems to me they don't want to win...

Posted by: dst Jun 20 2007, 08:13 PM

I think England should be awarded the Cup right now... they have scored more penalties than they have done in their entire history!! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 08:14 PM

Hoyte for England.. GOAL!!

They've levelled it up.

Derbyshire has his saved. sad.gif

SAVED. Justice!

Fvck, we surely can't save again.

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 20 2007, 08:15 PM

F****g hell we lose again on f*****g penalties, can we just not enter anymore, this is seriously getting pointless rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 08:16 PM

There you have it. Cheats do prosper.

The best shoot-out I've ever seen. But their keeper was ridiculous, he was on the 6-yard-line when every penalty was taken. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 20 2007, 08:16 PM

England players learning from an early age how to lose on penalties devil.gif

Edit: But I wanted them to win this time

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 20 2007, 08:18 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 20 2007, 07:16 PM)
The best shoot-out I've ever seen. But their keeper was ridiculous, he was on the 6-yard-line when every penalty was taken.  rolleyes.gif
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No surprises, apply the letter to the law on Taylor even though he was injured, but it's against England we will allow the keeper to come of their line, just like Ricardo rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 08:20 PM

I think it shows we can take penalties. Any other day we'd have won that, it's not very often it goes to 15 penalties each. tongue.gif

Holland can keep their Under-21 Title. But they'll never win a World Cup. cool.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 20 2007, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 20 2007, 10:20 PM)
Holland can keep their Under-21 Title. But they'll never win a World Cup.  cool.gif
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Maybe if you give them to host once... wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 08:37 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 20 2007, 07:28 PM)
Maybe if you give them to host once... wink.gif
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It wouldn't make a difference. They're just simply not good enough. tongue.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 20 2007, 09:01 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 20 2007, 08:16 PM)
England players learning from an early age how to lose on penalties devil.gif

Tradition. devil.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 09:31 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 20 2007, 08:01 PM)
Tradition.  devil.gif
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It doesn't make any sense. English club teams I would say are the best at penalty shoot-outs, but the NT just doesn't seem to have it.

It's about time we win one, let's just hope it's a big one. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 20 2007, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 20 2007, 10:37 PM)
It wouldn't make a difference. They're just simply not good enough.  tongue.gif
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Come on, Holland have a brilliant squad .. They just don't have, mmm, luck biggrin.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 20 2007, 09:34 PM

When I saw the PK shootout between Chelsea and Liverpool the german commentator invented one of the silliest terms I ever heard of (or maybe the english press invented it...anyway). After Lampard scored he said that Ballack teached him in the art of the "Mercedes Penalty" laugh.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 20 2007, 10:15 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 20 2007, 08:31 PM)
It's about time we win one, let's just hope it's a big one.  biggrin.gif
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It's always the same, we are going to win it, then a week before we have no chance, then we win one game and have every chance again, we reach the quarters by this time everyone in the country is watching then we lose on penalties, it's about as obvious as Steffi Graff's nose that we aren't going to win anything for a long time rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 20 2007, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 21 2007, 12:15 AM)
It's always the same, we are going to win it, then a week before we have no chance, then we win one game and have every chance again, we reach the quarters by this time everyone in the country is watching then we lose on penalties, it's about as obvious as Steffi Graff's nose that we aren't going to win anything for a long time  rolleyes.gif
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biggrin.gif True

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 20 2007, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 20 2007, 09:15 PM)
It's always the same, we are going to win it, then a week before we have no chance, then we win one game and have every chance again, we reach the quarters by this time everyone in the country is watching then we lose on penalties, it's about as obvious as Steffi Graff's nose that we aren't going to win anything for a long time  rolleyes.gif
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If we win Euro 2008, you change your name to Kurt Is God. wink.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 20 2007, 10:50 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 21 2007, 12:47 AM)
If we win Euro 2008, you change your name to Kurt Is God.  wink.gif
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And if not you change yours to 'Kurt is Brilliant's b!tch' wink.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 21 2007, 01:20 AM

A nice human interest story has come out of the U21s.

During the Italy-England game, Aquilani took a free kick that flew into the stands and the ball broke the arm of a young Dutch fan who'd come with his youth team to watch the game.

The Italian FA heard about this and invited the boy and his parents to meet the team. The boy (who, incidentally is a big fan of Milan) got autographs from the players and coaches, got an Aquilani jersey, and played pingpong with some of the players.

It was a nice thing for the Italian team to do.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Nazionale/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/20/aquilani.shtml

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 21 2007, 05:48 AM

Darn...so now he's gonna be a Roma fan.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 07:24 PM

3rd places Portugal and Italy play for the Olympics at 19:30 (7 minutes).

Italy will beat us easily. Attention on Nocerino: very good. Juventus just signed him

Posted by: misha Jun 21 2007, 07:27 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 21 2007, 09:24 PM)
Italy will beat us easily.

Give your team some credit. You have very talented players. It will be a close game.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 07:49 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 21 2007, 07:27 PM)
Give your team some credit. You have very talented players. It will be a close game.
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Players we have. The problem is that we don't have "a team". Specially with a coach like Couceiro. [Scolari in the other hand is amazing changing the mentality of group, that's why he's a top coach]

Couceiro was the coach that "gave" Benfica the title in 2005... he was in FCPorto on the last 4 months of that season.

Plus, we DON'T HAVE strikers. It's our BIG problem. Not only in Scolari squad - AA team - but in all of our young NT's.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 07:52 PM

I pick Italy to win 2-1.

They've played pretty well in every game, just been very unlucky. As Porty said, even thuogh they did get 4 last time out, they don't really have a striker.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 08:35 PM

anyone watching italy v portugal live? porty?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 08:39 PM

I am, it's not been the greatest game.

I just want to see another huge penalty shoot out. biggrin.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 21 2007, 02:39 PM)
I am, it's not been the greatest game.

I just want to see another huge penalty shoot out.  biggrin.gif
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ya on tv, over the net???

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 21 2007, 07:40 PM)
ya on tv, over the net???
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On tv. Sky Sports has had the whole thing live. smile.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 08:47 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 21 2007, 02:46 PM)
On tv. Sky Sports has had the whole thing live.  smile.gif
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lucky sad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 08:51 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jun 21 2007, 07:47 PM)
lucky sad.gif
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It's a real bonus about living in England. We get so much football, especially with Sky Sports being the almight God of sports tv. cool.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 21 2007, 08:57 PM

Pazzini sure didn't have a good tournament. (Am following online and just saw the sub).

I've been impressed with Portugal's Veloso, though.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 08:57 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 21 2007, 02:51 PM)
It's a real bonus about living in England. We get so much football, especially with Sky Sports being the almight God of sports tv.  cool.gif
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ahhh i hate canada! i predict in 10 years football will be the no.1 sport here but till then... i was pretty embarrased wacthing the adds on tv for the U20 world cup. they show diff kids around 8-12 years old doing diff. skills with a ball and they say: argentina is coming, poland is coming,brazil is coming,etc. rolleyes.gif i mean they could of showed goals and highlights from previous U20 games or even clips from the last world cup but since no one here knows **** about football it would mean nothing to them so they put some childish add...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 09:09 PM

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no one here knows **** about football

I've noticed that football, in North America, seems to be played by young kids and girls. It doesn't seem to have caught on with many people yet. Unfortunately I don't see you getting another World Cup for a very long time, so we'll just have to hope Beckham can get everybody into it. tongue.gif
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I've been impressed with Portugal's Veloso, though.

He, along with Holland's Drenthe, have been the players of the tournement for me.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 09:13 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 21 2007, 03:09 PM)
I've noticed that football, in North America, seems to be played by young kids and girls. It doesn't seem to have caught on with many people yet. Unfortunately I don't see you getting another World Cup for a very long time, so we'll just have to hope Beckham can get everybody into it.  tongue.gif

He, along with Holland's Drenthe, have been the players of the tournement for me.
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ya i guess not, i'd be pretty happy if it was in the states again. i'd go for sure.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 09:15 PM

ROSSI OFF, ****!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 09:15 PM

Rossi's been sent off for complaining about being fouled by the looks of it. huh.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 21 2007, 09:16 PM

Oops.

Red card for little Rossi.

EDIT: We clearly need to work on scheduling who gets to use the braincell when. wink.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 09:16 PM

SENT OFF THAT IS! that retarted american *******, he just cost italy a place at the olympics realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 09:18 PM

a striker has no reason to be sent off. with a midfielder or defender it happens cuz they gotta make tackles but for him to get too yellows.... he should have toned it down after the ifrts yellow... stupid ****!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 21 2007, 08:16 PM)
Oops.

Red card for little Rossi.

EDIT: We clearly need to work on scheduling who gets to use the braincell when.  wink.gif
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I agree. It does get silly sometimes. tongue.gif

I'm not really sure why he got sent off. Playing for United is bad enough I suppose. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 09:20 PM

portugal to win it in a SO

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jun 21 2007, 09:30 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 21 2007, 03:20 PM)
I agree. It does get silly sometimes.  tongue.gif

I'm not really sure why he got sent off. Playing for United is bad enough I suppose.  rolleyes.gif
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what more would you expect from a french ref rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 09:34 PM

Portugal 0-0 Italy FT
Every referee has been crap in this tournement, I've never seen so many cards fly around before, it's pretty ridiculous.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 21 2007, 09:40 PM

(Netherlands - Portugal, 2006 world cup. Great kicking match, that. There was even some football too).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 09:42 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 21 2007, 08:40 PM)
(Netherlands - Portugal, 2006 world cup. Great kicking match, that. There was even some football too).
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Portugal still managed to beat us in the next round. dry.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 09:50 PM

Our U21 is so sh!t that can't score against 10 italians... rolleyes.gif

Geez. Shame. I hope Italy wins.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 09:51 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 21 2007, 08:50 PM)
Our U21 is so sh!t that can't score against 10 italians...  rolleyes.gif

Geez. Shame. I hope Italy wins.
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Your NT couldn't score past 10 Englishman either, did you want us to win? biggrin.gif

EDIT: Half Time in Extra Time, scores still level at 0-0.

Posted by: Tennie Jun 21 2007, 09:56 PM

So, Porty, is the Portuguese U21 keeper as good at penalty saving as Ricardo is? Looks like it may be heading that way....

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 10:01 PM

Portugal just missed an open goal. ohmy.gif

EDIT: 0-0 FT. Portugal had two great chances at the end to win it, but it goes to penalties

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 21 2007, 09:56 PM)
So, Porty, is the Portuguese U21 keeper as good at penalty saving as Ricardo is? Looks like it may be heading that way....
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He's sh!t. Porto 3rd keeper I think. Always on loan. We'll lose this one.

@kurtsimonw: In the World Cup? The Netherlands "offered" England the match vs. Portugal. Our players were really tired and some couldn't play (ex: Deco). The dutch cvnts when knowing that they couldn't beat us they thought "We're gonna fvck them to their next match".

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 10:20 PM

Portugal vs Italy: Penalties
[1-0] Moutinho: Scores
[1-1] Pelle: Scores (That penalty took balls.)
[2-1] Nani: Scores
[2-2] Montolivo: Scores
[2-2] Fernandez: Saved by Viviano
[2-3] Criscito: Scores
[3-3] Veloso: Scores
[3-4] Palladino: Scores
[3-4] Antunes: Missed

Italy win.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 10:20 PM

ROTFLOL. You keeper just got humiliated on the first penalty. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 10:23 PM

AHAHAH. The best young portuguese CM just missed the penalty. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 21 2007, 10:26 PM

Thank you Italy.

Antunes, kurt's boy, missed the last one.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2007, 10:26 PM

Antunes has Villa qualities, that penalty was awful.

Posted by: dst Jun 21 2007, 11:33 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 22 2007, 12:17 AM)
The dutch cvnts when knowing that they couldn't beat us they thought "We're gonna fvck them to their next match".
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Oh please...

Posted by: Tennie Jun 23 2007, 08:04 PM

Nice goal. 1-0 Netherlands in the 16th minute. The Jong Oranje look good.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 23 2007, 09:14 PM

Holland lead 3-0. Babel just missed a penalty. rolleyes.gif

EDIT: 3-1, with 10 minutes to go.

EDIT 2: 4-1 Holland.

EDIT 3: Holland win the U21 Championships.

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