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Danny
post Jan 25 2020, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2020, 11:27 AM) *
Am I the only one who thought Ibra was good? He's doing exactly what I hoped for, holding the attack by himself and providing different options.


Interesting, he lost the ball 3 times, joint second worst on the pitch, only Castillejo lost it more. He also lost control of it 6 times, worst on the pitch. Not sure you're seeing what's there, just what you want to.

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People seem to be underestimating this aspect. With Piatek we would have barely shot on target last night.


We had four on target last night. Last match Piatek played in we had 9.

Your hatred for this player is a bit silly.

I agree his form was shot by the end, but Ibra isn't doing much better.

In fact, the difference so far has been the full backs, especially Theo. We're getting better width now and Theo is having a licence to attack. Plus the main defence is tighter, Kjaer helping a lot there.

In this Milan, with the chances we're now starting to create, I think a goalscorer would thrive.

Ibra just seems to have lost his clinical edge, not as sharp as he used to be. Not blaming him for that, he's 38.
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post Jan 25 2020, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 25 2020, 04:11 AM) *
The signing of Ibra isn't working - he looks absolutely terrible, and one goal doesn't change that.

Leao was poor tonight, made no real impact, and Brescia will be cursing an inspired Donna who was the reason for that result.

Rebic came on and again was the difference, midfield barely functioned.

I'm not into Bennacer at all, find him utterly ordinary, but defence was good - Romagnoli and Kjaer are working quite well and both FBs are doing a solid job, especially Theo.

But the fact we were outplayed by the second bottom side indicates that nothing has changed and the signing of Ibra doesn't alter that.


I understand your sentiment. Certainly, Ibra is not scoring every game, but facts are facts. Since Ibra came, we've been winning all of our games. Whether that's down entierly to him or not is another debtate. But, I think he signficantly contributed to that.

I agree about Donna, the guy just had an amazing game it seems. Rebic is clinical at the moment, and we should start him.

For me from the 10 min video I got to watch, I felt the defence was quite exposed. Whether it was on Romagnoli and Kjaer or the midfield I don't know though.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2020, 01:27 PM) *
Am I the only one who thought Ibra was good? He's doing exactly what I hoped for, holding the attack by himself and providing different options. People seem to be underestimating this aspect. With Piatek we would have barely shot on target last night.

I also liked Bennacer. He takes so much initiative and is always pressing off the ball. Hakan was alright as well.

Honestly, I didn't think we were terrible last night. Yes, we suffered, but this one of those games against a relegation side at home that's fighting for survival. The stadium was full and chanting them till the very end. These are complicated games, and the fact we managed to snap 3 points is a big plus.


Nice to see someone positive..I mean we won four games in a row now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 25 2020, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 25 2020, 04:14 PM) *
Interesting, he lost the ball 3 times, joint second worst on the pitch, only Castillejo lost it more. He also lost control of it 6 times, worst on the pitch. Not sure you're seeing what's there, just what you want to.



We had four on target last night. Last match Piatek played in we had 9.

Your hatred for this player is a bit silly.

I agree his form was shot by the end, but Ibra isn't doing much better.

In fact, the difference so far has been the full backs, especially Theo. We're getting better width now and Theo is having a licence to attack. Plus the main defence is tighter, Kjaer helping a lot there.

In this Milan, with the chances we're now starting to create, I think a goalscorer would thrive.

Ibra just seems to have lost his clinical edge, not as sharp as he used to be. Not blaming him for that, he's 38.


The thing with Ibra is it's also the mental grit that he brings to the team. As well as he can only get better now he is coming back to match fitness.

The fullbacks are certainly a big positive at the moment. Theo (and sometimes Conti) always seems to provide the needed support for attack.

We need Leao to get better and better..he is certainly an important piece of the puzzle.
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post Jan 25 2020, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 25 2020, 02:40 PM) *
I understand your sentiment. Certainly, Ibra is not scoring every game, but facts are facts. Since Ibra came, we've been winning all of our games. Whether that's down entierly to him or not is another debtate. But, I think he signficantly contributed to that.


I don't argue with that point - the Ibra factor has helped with this run, but it's helped more in morale than actual contribution I feel. And tbh I don't have an issue with that. Just saying his signing, in terms of his own play, hasn't exactly blown me away.

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I agree about Donna, the guy just had an amazing game it seems. Rebic is clinical at the moment, and we should start him.

For me from the 10 min video I got to watch, I felt the defence was quite exposed. Whether it was on Romagnoli and Kjaer or the midfield I don't know though.


How could the defence being exposed be on the defenders - the very idea of being exposed is to be revealed by someone else - so if the defence looks vulnerable, it means the midfield has been violated too easily, and the defence is having to plug the gaps - which it did. 13 clearances from all four defenders.

Midfield isn't good enough, and I don't like Bennacer at all.
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 25 2020, 02:44 PM) *
The thing with Ibra is it's also the mental grit that he brings to the team. As well as he can only get better now he is coming back to match fitness.


He was already mostly in match fitness buddy, October 25th was his last game before Milan. Add in the winter break and he isn't far behind! Agree on the grit, he's a born winner. That attitude will rub off on others.

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The fullbacks are certainly a big positive at the moment. Theo (and sometimes Conti) always seems to provide the needed support for attack.

We need Leao to get better and better..he is certainly an important piece of the puzzle.


I liked him in the last match but not so good v Brescia.
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post Jan 25 2020, 04:08 PM
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I'm not a stats guy, really. I never look at them, never cared about them. Zlatan for me has elevated this team's level of quality. When he has the ball everyone is aware, the opposition feels the danger. He might not have the same pace and agility he had 10 years ago, but the class is still there. And at 38, my friend, I think asking for more would be exaggerated.
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post Jan 25 2020, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2020, 04:08 PM) *
I'm not a stats guy, really. I never look at them, never cared about them. Zlatan for me has elevated this team's level of quality. When he has the ball everyone is aware, the opposition feels the danger. He might not have the same pace and agility he had 10 years ago, but the class is still there.


The opposition kept taking the ball off him. 9 times. They didn't fear him. I know stats and facts are irrelevant to you, but you can't then expect me to completely take your argument when it's based 100% on what you believe you are seeing.

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And at 38, my friend, I think asking for more would be exaggerated.


I wasn't, though? I was the one who expected nothing from this signing? So even getting something is more than I predicted.

I guess I'm just concerned that you believe us being outplayed by the second bottom side in Serie A is a sign of the elevation of Milan's quality.

Don't get me wrong, my enthusiasm has increased a bit too, and Ibra's a big reason for that, but I'm finding the improvement overall is down to a bunch of factors. Not just Ibra.
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post Jan 25 2020, 10:12 PM
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If there is one thing I can blame Ibra for, it was his miss during the first half. That was inexcusable. Other than that, I saw the whole game and I liked what I saw from him. Didn't really pay attention to the lost balls as you say, once or twice I can remember. Maybe the others weren't that relevant. That's why I think just looking at the stats is not sufficient to judge a performance.
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post Jan 25 2020, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 25 2020, 10:12 PM) *
If there is one thing I can blame Ibra for, it was his miss during the first half. That was inexcusable. Other than that, I saw the whole game and I liked what I saw from him. Didn't really pay attention to the lost balls as you say, once or twice I can remember. Maybe the others weren't that relevant. That's why I think just looking at the stats is not sufficient to judge a performance.


End of the day, as long as we're winning, I don't really mind if Piatek and Ibra go out there and do the shimmy in their underwear while juggling oranges.

A win is a win.
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So far Zlatan has been nothing but good for us. He keeps pushing our team, he keeps us moving and we're attacking overall much better. Now I also could be down to the fact that we played weak opposition, I agree. We'll see in the coming few games..

Lautaro out for the Madonnina? And Inter in a small crisis mode?
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