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post Sep 29 2017, 11:21 AM
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Bonucci is becoming a shocking signing.

Cutrone is a hero.

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post Sep 29 2017, 04:03 PM
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Didn't see the match, but from the highlights Bonucci looked terrible.
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post Sep 30 2017, 03:31 PM
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I thought the entire defence had a nightmare, not just Bonucci, everyone simply looks confused out there.

This is just not working and I fail to see how Montella can get a handle on things with the difficult fixtures we have coming up
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post Sep 30 2017, 04:52 PM
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On paper, you have a bunch of good/very good individuals. There's no discussion there. If the team is underperforming it's down to the coach and no one else.
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post Sep 30 2017, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 30 2017, 04:52 PM) *
On paper, you have a bunch of good/very good individuals. There's no discussion there. If the team is underperforming it's down to the coach and no one else.

Agreed there

I do expect more from individuals like Bonucci. He's supposed to be the one organizing that defence but he's been as culpable as the rest. I get that he's coming out of the Juve bubble where everything ran smoothly though. Montella to me seems like he's lost the team
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post Oct 1 2017, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 30 2017, 04:52 PM) *
On paper, you have a bunch of good/very good individuals. There's no discussion there. If the team is underperforming it's down to the coach and no one else.


While Bonucci seems to be disproving the 'don't become a bad player overnight' cliche, otherwise I agree. Montella is getting considerably less out his players than the squad is capable of.

He has gone from, last November, the best coach in Serie A (said by almost all of us) to a pile of turd.

He just isn't very good.
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post Oct 1 2017, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 1 2017, 11:32 AM) *
While Bonucci seems to be disproving the 'don't become a bad player overnight' cliche, otherwise I agree. Montella is getting considerably less out his players than the squad is capable of.

He has gone from, last November, the best coach in Serie A (said by almost all of us) to a pile of turd.

He just isn't very good.

I think sometimes players have a hard time clicking in a different environment and that's probably what's going on with Bonucci. He's been in such a bubble at Juve, a very comfortable one, especially since he's never left it's comfort even while with the NT, that now that it's burst, he's finding it difficult to get into the rhythm he had before.

I think the tactics are a mess and everyone seems confused about what they should be doing. a 3-5-2 is not the way to go. If we're using 3 at the back it should be a 3-4-3 or 3-4-1-2. 5 across the midfield with the players we have makes absolutely no sense

Either that or we try the 4-2-3-1 as X-off suggested. And play all 3 of Hakan, Bona and Suso in their preferred position
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post Oct 1 2017, 03:45 PM
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You have to also consider the fact that Bonucci has had the luxury of never having to be the out and out leader. He has played with Buffon and Chellini throughout his career. His performances have never been too scrutinized because he came up with players who were much better than him. Here, he is the top dog and the pressure is on to be the leader. It's going to take a little bit of time to adjust.

That being said, I say we give Montella the game against Rome today and the game against Inter. That will say a lot about where this team is headed with him as the coach.
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Wrong thread.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Oct 1 2017, 04:32 PM
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (maldini03 @ Oct 1 2017, 03:45 PM) *
You have to also consider the fact that Bonucci has had the luxury of never having to be the out and out leader. He has played with Buffon and Chellini throughout his career. His performances have never been too scrutinized because he came up with players who were much better than him. Here, he is the top dog and the pressure is on to be the leader. It's going to take a little bit of time to adjust.

That being said, I say we give Montella the game against Rome today and the game against Inter. That will say a lot about where this team is headed with him as the coach.

Problem is we already lost against Roma, and we'll most likely lose against Inter too. Those are our 2 biggest competitors for the CL spots and the more this goes on, the more ground we lose on them.

I say we do it now before things spiral anymore

I like Montella, but I just can't see him recovering from this
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