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post Sep 28 2012, 11:22 AM
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Not an easy game. They sit one point beneath us, but have already played Juve, Napoli and Fiorentina. Donadoni has done a decent job since taking over - don't forget that they went on a 7 game winning steak at the end of last season, beating Inter in the process.

Will the win on Wednesday be enough to kick-start Milan's season?
Will Allegri's return to the bench act as motivation for the players?
Should Bojan start?
Will Traore misplace a pass?

So many questions!
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post Sep 28 2012, 11:35 AM
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Thing is, these mid-table Serie A teams have cohesion within the team. Our problem is that we don't have that.
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post Sep 28 2012, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 28 2012, 11:35 AM) *
Thing is, these mid-table Serie A teams have cohesion within the team. Our problem is that we don't have that.

We won't have that anytime soon either if Allegri keeps changing the team every game. He needs to stick to a midfield 3 for at least 5 matches before we can say it's truely not working. Every game he's moving things around, starting players that have no business starting for us because they can never hold down a starting position, playing players out of position. It's an endless list of questionable and stupid decisions.

And the probable line-ups from Gazzetta show no end in sight for this endless cycle of stupid decisions.

Ideally we should go for something like this and stick to it for a couple of games to have that cohesion in the team

Abate--Mexes--Zapata--De Sciglio
Boateng--De Jong--Monto
Robinho--Bojan--El Shaa


Arguably our best 11 options right now to start, get them to play matches together without changing things around, let them build an understanding with each other. My only change would be the obvious Pazzini problem we currently have, he's clearly ot working out, no point in insisting on him.

On the other hand you have Gazzatta's line-up

De Sciglio--Bonera--Zapata--Antonini
Monto--Ambro--Nocerino
Urby--Pazzini--El Shaa


Look at this mess!!! He keeps changing around the defensive line, that's asking for headaches right there, because cohesion in the defense is the most crucial element and you can't have that if you field a different back 4 in every game which is what Allegri is doing.

Once again, changing the composition of the midfield 3. Let De Jong, Monto and Boateng start together for a couple of games, let them build a relationship and understanding between each other. We will never play even decent football if he keeps messing about with the 3 players in the midfield in every game

Don't get me started on the attacking line and keeping insisting on Urby as the right wing attacker.
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post Sep 28 2012, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2012, 03:09 PM) *
We won't have that anytime soon either if Allegri keeps changing the team every game. He needs to stick to a midfield 3 for at least 5 matches before we can say it's truely not working.


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post Sep 28 2012, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 28 2012, 12:15 PM) *

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post Sep 28 2012, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2012, 03:09 PM) *
We won't have that anytime soon either if Allegri keeps changing the team every game. He needs to stick to a midfield 3 for at least 5 matches before we can say it's truely not working. Every game he's moving things around, starting players that have no business starting for us because they can never hold down a starting position, playing players out of position. It's an endless list of questionable and stupid decisions.

And the probable line-ups from Gazzetta show no end in sight for this endless cycle of stupid decisions.

Ideally we should go for something like this and stick to it for a couple of games to have that cohesion in the team

Abate--Mexes--Zapata--De Sciglio
Boateng--De Jong--Monto
Robinho--Bojan--El Shaa


Arguably our best 11 options right now to start, get them to play matches together without changing things around, let them build an understanding with each other. My only change would be the obvious Pazzini problem we currently have, he's clearly ot working out, no point in insisting on him.

On the other hand you have Gazzatta's line-up

De Sciglio--Bonera--Zapata--Antonini
Monto--Ambro--Nocerino
Urby--Pazzini--El Shaa


Look at this mess!!! He keeps changing around the defensive line, that's asking for headaches right there, because cohesion in the defense is the most crucial element and you can't have that if you field a different back 4 in every game which is what Allegri is doing.

Once again, changing the composition of the midfield 3. Let De Jong, Monto and Boateng start together for a couple of games, let them build a relationship and understanding between each other. We will never play even decent football if he keeps messing about with the 3 players in the midfield in every game

Don't get me started on the attacking line and keeping insisting on Urby as the right wing attacker.


Maybe he's doing some rotation to avoid injuries...Seems like the only possible reason to start Traore over Nocerino.
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post Sep 28 2012, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 28 2012, 12:25 PM) *
Maybe he's doing some rotation to avoid injuries...Seems like the only possible reason to start Traore over Nocerino.

Nah. He's trying to "change" things becuase of the awful results. The problem is things keep getting worse and worse. Winning against Cagliari only prolonged Allegri's presence here at Milan but the result still covers the terrible display from the team. We were on the back foot against 10 man Cagliari! Can't get any worse than that

He has no problem playing Urby, Pazzini, Bonera, etc in every game so this is definately not about rotation
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post Sep 28 2012, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 28 2012, 02:09 PM) *
Abate--Mexes--Zapata--De Sciglio
Boateng--De Jong--Monto
Robinho--Bojan--El Shaa


That would be a great line-up! Or rather:

Monto - De Jong
El Shaa - Boateng - Robinho
Bojan


This is Mediaset's line-up: Abbiati; De Sciglio, Zapata, Bonera, Antonini; Ambrosini, Montolivo, Nocerino; Emanuelson, El Shaarawy, Pazzini.

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post Sep 28 2012, 02:56 PM
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He is still insisting on Urby...oh gosh.He'll play him 100 games..he'll score a goal.Then he'll start talking about how we should not criticize him and he'll become something big...err
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post Sep 28 2012, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 28 2012, 04:56 PM) *
He is still insisting on Urby...oh gosh.He'll play him 100 games..he'll score a goal.Then he'll start talking about how we should not criticize him and he'll become something big...err


Déjà vu? He kept playing him as AM last season when Boateng was injured, the guy scored one goal against frigging Cesena, and everyone was like 'See, Allegri was right'. Give me a f@cking break!
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post Sep 28 2012, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 28 2012, 03:46 PM) *
Monto - De Jong
El Shaa - Boateng - Robinho
Bojan

That lineup would get run over. Can't play a 2 when one of them is Montolivo unless we completely dominate possession.
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post Sep 28 2012, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 28 2012, 05:23 PM) *
That lineup would get run over. Can't play a 2 when one of them is Montolivo unless we completely dominate possession.


Not if we push and run for the whole 90 minutes.

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post Sep 28 2012, 04:11 PM
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Guys, read the whole press conference. He has an explanation for some of his decisions. Still not for everything though.




MILANELLO – Here’s what the Rossoneri coach had to say during the pre Parma-Milan press conference

“If the young players are playing, it’s because they deserve to and it’s also thanks to the club’s work with the youth sector. El Shaarawy has improved a lot, most of in his off the ball movements. He looks more secure. He has a lot of technical and physical quality. He has to understand that he hasn’t done anything yet. In football the sign of a great player is to stay at the highest levels for a long time and to do that you can’t let things stick to you. He’s an intelligent lad and he understands this. It’s an important moment for him and the club. As I’ve said before there’s only one Milan, not ten of them. Everyone’s objective is to improve and keep things tight”.

“I’ll have to evaluate things today. We spent a lot of energy at Udine as well. There are a few players who have played a lot of football. Boateng will defitely be back, the others I don’t know about. We’re all fine though. Bojan might start, he’s not doing badly. Pazzini has come from a three month period when he didn’t play. I’m happy with what he done, he ran a lot against Cagliari”.

“The team had a good first half on Wednesday and they conceded little or nothing when it was time to defend. We have to make less mistakes and keep on playing. Against Udinese after 20 minutes the game was evenly balanced. We have to manage possession better and we have to be more calm. When we go ahead like we did against Bologna we seem to drop back a bit and we have to stop that from happening. There are positives though, we concede very little space in defense and we defende as a unit. That’s a step forward but we have to improve in how we control the game”.

“The team is working hard and the players have to show each other respect as this is what makes a good group. A coaches job is clear. He has to give instructions, chose the right players and can’t have favorites and he needs to have a compact group that works together for the result. When the players win it’s because they’re a good group with respect for one another. I had hoped we’d have had more points, we’ve made some mistakes but the league this year looks more evenly balanced even though Juventus are still the favorites. Napoli have their Europa League commitments but that’s not as heavy as the Champions League. We shouldn’t forget Inter and Roma. We’ll need balance in the difficult times. Having 2 or 3 extra points would be better but we don’t so now we’re thinking of Parma and then Zenit after that. The derby is the last game before the break”.

“Parma will be tough, they’re well organized and good at the back. We’ll have to very alert. It’s the third game in a week and there could be some fatigue. The bench will be very important tomorrow as when the players on the pitch start to fade, they can play their part. We have to start not conceding goals away from home as well and show some continuity. I think the team will do better tomorrow”.

“if you’re off the pitch, the game is less intense but you can see things better. I wasn’t worried on Wednesday and the team did well and of course Mauro was on the bench”.

“More than talking about formations and numbers, I think the game has to be played with the right concepts and good technique, defending all together. This year it’s tougher than ever to score in Italy and so the defense becomes ever more fundamental. You need to concede little to win the title”.

“Mauro Tassotti has important moral values that he has shown in his 32 years with the club. I’m happy to work with him and the others at the club. I haven’t spoken about the Cagliari result with the president. We needed the win and we got it. We could have played better but the important thing was to win”.

“With Pazzini we have to change the way we play up front and we need that capability. We’ll have to be good to change the way we play based on whether he’s there or nor”.

“Flamini has a swollen knee and after surgery that can happen, he was back after 6 months but you need time to get fitness levels back”.

“Pato is working well and when we get back from St Petersburg, he’ll join up with the rest of the team and I’ll evaluate if he’ll be available for the derby or not. I might ask him to play a couple of games with the youth team to build up his confidence”.

“Nocerino and bate went to the Euros and have been playing no stop. Abate is getting his fitness back and Nocerino gave us a lot of intensity against Udinese. It’s not strange with the way we’re playing now that he sees less of the ball when we’re pushing forward but he’s been working well in the defensive part of his game. When we get more fluidity it’ll be easier for him to get forward more”.

"Traorè played on Wednesday as I thought he’d be able to put in a good performance in the first half but he was late to the ball a few times which is normal as it’s his first game in a league that’s different o the one he comes from”.

“De Jong plays the ball well on the ground. He had a good first half but tactically he has to improve. Boateng is an all-round midfielder so it makes little difference if he plays a bit forward or a bit back”.

“I think from here on out, we have to make the most of the characteristics of the players we have. The team has to play better for the whole 90 minutes”.


Taken from www.acmilan.com
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post Sep 28 2012, 04:17 PM
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Good read, and this is the kind of thing I'm talking about:

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We have to manage possession better and we have to be more calm. When we go ahead like we did against Bologna we seem to drop back a bit and we have to stop that from happening.

Doesn't matter whether you're Ferguson or a newbie coach, the above is something that is difficult to near impossible to control as a coach.
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post Sep 28 2012, 04:39 PM
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It's funny because I could have written what Allegri said in his conference or anyone here right now for that mattter who sees the obvious problems in this team. Too bad Allegri does not practice what he preaches!!

Playing the best 11? Not having favourites? Making the best use out of the group you have? Utilising possession smartly when you have it? Playing as a united group?

These are all the main problems we as a club are experiencing because the coach we have does not pick the best 11, clearly has his favourites and players he doesn't like, plays the guys he has available to him out of position, his team probably has the worst passing record in the league as I can't even begin to count the number of times we lose the ball in each game because of terrible passing and finally, how can you play as a united group if you keep switching things around??? We need to find some rythm and that will only happen if a select 11 (preferbly our BEST 11) get a good run of games under their belt TOGETHER.

This means no f@cking around with the defensive line, picking your best 3 or 4 mids and letting them find an understanding with each other and picking the forwards that will work best in this system. Until he does all these thing we'll continue to play as we currently are, even if we manage to scrape a couple of results here and there, they do not cover the problems we obviously still have
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