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Posted by: misha Jun 15 2007, 11:30 AM

Real Madrid are reportedly ready to offer Milan a world record fee of £53m for star man Kaka.

The Brazilian has often been paired with the Merengues over the past year and Los Blancos are allegedly ready to dig deep in order to convince the Milanese to sell their most prized asset.

Friday’s edition of Tuttosport claims that Real directors Franco Baldini and Predrag Mijatovic travelled to Italy this week to start talks.

They allegedly met with the player’s father and agent Gaetano Paolillo, as the South American is currently on holiday with his wife, to discuss a possible move.

Both Real officials confirmed that President Ramon Calderon is ready to invest over £50m to net the 25-year-old and fulfil the promise made to fans during his election campaign last year.

As part of the deal, Kaka – who recently admitted that he was honoured to be a Real target – would allegedly earn a massive £7m a season.

However, convincing the European champions to sell the former Sao Paulo ace is going to be more problematic.

Although the club have acknowledged Real’s interest in the attacking midfielder, they have again confirmed that he is not for sale – at any price!

Posted by: rhy_A4 Jun 15 2007, 11:53 AM

why cant they get it into there stupid spanish heads hes not leaving this is really pissing me off now

Posted by: Tennie Jun 15 2007, 12:34 PM

From the club website:

[Milan knew about the meeting because Kaka's father told them about it. Galliano confirms that Milan won't sell Kaka. He adds that the offer comes out of the fact that due to income tax differences in the respective countries, players in Spain earn more than players in Italy.]

MILANO - La notizia dell'incontro fra i dirigenti del Real Madrid e l'ingegner Bosco Leite, papà di Kakà, non ha colto impreparati i massimi dirigenti rossoneri. Proprio Adriano Galliani, amministratore delegato del Milan, dichiara al sito ufficiale rossonero: "Confermiamo che non cederemo Kakà, ma di questo incontro sappiamo tutto perchè siamo stati prontamente informati dal papà di Kakà e da Gaetano Paolillo. Quindi, il Milan conferma che certamente non cederà Kakà ma queste offerte sono figlie della diversa fiscalità fra Italia e Spagna che dà vantaggi ai top club spagnoli rispetto ai top club italiani. In pratica nell'offerta di ingaggio ad un giocatore, con la stessa somma lorda investita e proposta da una società italiana e da una società spagnola ad un grande campione, nel nostro paese al giocatore va il 50% della cifra, in Spagna invece il suo guadagno è del 75%".

Posted by: rooboy Jun 15 2007, 12:43 PM

QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Jun 15 2007, 09:53 PM)
why cant they get it into there stupid spanish heads hes not leaving this is really pissing me off now
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don't worry man ..... they are a club in decline and they're desperate.
why not sell the impossible dream to your supporters?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 15 2007, 01:27 PM

Guys - why don`t we make one topic dedicated to the "Kaka to Real move"...cause all the season long we are under bombardment with these rediculous and annoying news...one topic for all those shitty claims - the summer is close, so we can expect that once a week some version of the same "possible transfer" will appear. Till Kaka gets tired and stops playing football...

Man...lets clone him, and send them the duplicate...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 15 2007, 01:57 PM

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Friday’s edition of Tuttosport claims that Real directors Franco Baldini and Predrag Mijatovic travelled to Italy this week to start talks.

It'd be a bit of a wasted trip, all the way to Italy to hear 'no'. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 15 2007, 02:05 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 15 2007, 03:57 PM)
It'd be a bit of a wasted trip, all the way to Italy to hear 'no'.  rolleyes.gif
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If they are coming to Italy they can take Oliveira from us.

Posted by: redbabies Jun 15 2007, 02:38 PM

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"Practically, the gross sum offered to a top player by an Italian club is 50% of the [net] figure while in Spain it is 75%."


Can somebody explain to me what does this mean?

If I'm understanding it correclty in Italy the player gets 50% of the transfer fee, but I'm confused coz the transfer fee is paid to the club and the player doesn't have any percantage from that - the player is paid only by the wage he agrees in contract.

cool.gif ???

Posted by: rhy_A4 Jun 15 2007, 03:22 PM

QUOTE (rooboy @ Jun 15 2007, 11:43 AM)
don't worry man ..... they are a club in decline and they're desperate.
why not sell the impossible dream to your supporters?
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True dat i hope they decline and become like Nottingham Forrest tongue.gif not saying i dont respect Nottingham forrest they got Champions league cups more then Chelski LOL

Posted by: Tennie Jun 15 2007, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (redbabies @ Jun 15 2007, 09:38 AM)
Can somebody explain to me what does this mean?

If I'm understanding it correclty in Italy the player gets 50% of the transfer fee, but I'm confused coz the transfer fee is paid to the club and the player doesn't have any percantage from that - the player is paid only by the wage he agrees in contract.

cool.gif ???
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It's because income tax is higher in Italy than it is in Spain. It doesn't have to do with transfer fees.

Posted by: redbabies Jun 15 2007, 04:21 PM

thanx Tennie smile.gif

Posted by: pacang Jun 15 2007, 06:16 PM

hands off kaka..

just spend the money trying to keep Beckham instead..

buy him a new car or a new boat etc..

Posted by: dst Jun 15 2007, 06:39 PM

Make that E70m and Gago and he's all yours!! cool.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 15 2007, 06:49 PM

Oh..and and...we get first option on all under 20 talents Madrid purchase. And Madrid pays Ronaldo's food bills for the next 3 seasons. And Silvio buys us Quaresma and R10 to patch things up.

Posted by: Warchant Jun 15 2007, 07:51 PM

*snore*

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jun 15 2007, 08:06 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 15 2007, 09:09 PM)
Make that E70m and Gago and he's all yours!!  cool.gif
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Still not enough!

I want Nistelrooy + Ramos + £30 million for Kaka, minimum! seriously!

Posted by: florenti1 Jun 15 2007, 08:17 PM

I want to see KAKA playing for another 7 or 8 years in MILAN's shirt

Real doesn't have a competitive squad anymore and they need to sign a big name

This is one of the reasons not to sell Kaka + we have a competitive squad and we should stay like that -KEEP ALL THE BIG NAMES- because we have many competitions to play + KAKA will be the next Pallon d'Or

Posted by: dst Jun 15 2007, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 15 2007, 10:06 PM)
Still not enough!

I want Nistelrooy + Ramos + £30 million for Kaka, minimum! seriously!
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That seem less than what I suggested in my view... plus RVN is too ugly for Milan! So, get me Gago! cool.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 15 2007, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 15 2007, 11:18 PM)
That seem less than what I suggested in my view... plus RVN is too ugly for Milan! So, get me Gago!  cool.gif
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If R10 got a green light then that barrier is breached wink.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 16 2007, 12:48 AM

Though I dislike him, Ruud reminds me so much of MVB .. The shape of his face is similar and they are both tall, with the same hair style, etc etc ..

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 16 2007, 06:48 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 15 2007, 05:48 PM)
Though I dislike him, Ruud reminds me so much of MVB .. The shape of his face is similar and they are both tall, with the same hair style, etc etc ..
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Their biggest similarity? Scoring sh1t load of goals. They both have ridiculous goalscoring ratios. Especially Van Basten... king.gif

Posted by: javierk128 Jun 16 2007, 09:14 AM

yeah...off course rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif sleep.gif
i would like kaka will be in milan for many years.. but actually... i don´t know, i just think in what sheva did to us....
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i jist hope so...

KAKA.. i just hope you will be our hope for so many years.. and this CL just was the beginning freak.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 16 2007, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 15 2007, 09:18 PM)
That seem less than what I suggested in my view... plus RVN is too ugly for Milan! So, get me Gago!  cool.gif
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I want 0 Mill + Kaká.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jun 16 2007, 04:03 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 15 2007, 11:48 PM)
That seem less than what I suggested in my view... plus RVN is too ugly for Milan! So, get me Gago!  cool.gif
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Gago... I like him a lot (despite being an Argentinian!). But the fact is that he hasn't impressed yet; Nothing special IMO, at least for now.

On the other side there's Ruud. I don't want him now, I wanted him last summer. But Real were smarter and got him. If they win the La Liga tomorrow they should be grateful to Ruud more than anybody else.
He's definitely Real's most successful signing since Zidane. sleep.gif
Wouldn't it be better if we had Ruud instead of a ***** Oliveira?! huh.gif ...

As for Ramos, he is somehow my dream signing, but I know we'll never get him.
He's one the five best defenders in the world. A perfect player who can even score...

Posted by: dst Jun 16 2007, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 16 2007, 05:42 PM)
I want 0 Mill + Kaká.
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And I want Kaka + the desire to play for Milan + not constant Real Madrid dreams. Since I ain't got that I can wave goodbye to Ricky!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jun 16 2007, 06:57 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2007, 08:15 PM)
And I want Kaka + the desire to play for Milan + not constant Real Madrid dreams. Since I ain't got that I can wave goodbye to Ricky!
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I don't wanna be rude at all, smile.gif but may I ask who gave you that idea? dry.gif No really... What do you base your idea on?!..

What more should he do to prove his loyalty? What else is left to say for him to keep me and you satisfied?! He's said he wants to stay (not just once, dozens of times). he's said he wants to honor his contract, which runs till 2011. He's said he wants to win everything with Milan. He's said he owes Milan fans.... If it's not loyalty, then what is it? huh.gif I think if he hadn't enough desire and concentration to play for Milan, we wouldn't be European Champions by now! That's a fact...

P.S.: I feel I must say it again that I have a lot of respect for you, because you're one of the oldlines of milanfan.com forums

(Was oldline the right word?! I must improve my English... wacko.gif )

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 16 2007, 07:17 PM

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P.S.: I feel I must say it again that I have a lot of respect for you, because you're one of the oldlines of milanfan.com forums


Hmm...I'd think oldie or veteran is a better choice of words. Don't mean to patronize, but u asked. wink.gif


And as for the respect bit...fuggedaboutit...so many people respect him, he doesn't know what to do with it all...

I guess...what dst means is that while Kaka says all these lines u talked about...he always ends it up ambiguosly. Like Right now Milan is where I wanna be. And then something else like, Real is a great club and I've always dreamt of playing for it.

After Sheva, naturally we're all suspicious. Since we know for a fact Milan does not compromise on it's salary cap for the players and that Madrid does. So it's all a little murky.

We'd rather he said something like, I'm not gonna play for Madrid ever, rather then Right now I play for Milan, but it's a great honour to be considered by Madrid coz I always dreamt..blah blah.

Though in his defence, I think it's a very classy thing to say(provided he means nothing by it), coz to say anything else would be to belittle Madrid. Which along with Milan is one of football's great institutions.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jun 16 2007, 08:06 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 16 2007, 09:47 PM)
I guess...what dst means is that while Kaka says all these lines u talked about...he always ends it up ambiguosly. Like Right now Milan is where I wanna be. And then something else like, Real is a great club and I've always dreamt of playing for it.

We'd rather he said something like, I'm not gonna play for Madrid ever, rather then Right now I play for Milan, but it's a great honour to be considered by Madrid coz I always dreamt..blah blah.

Though in his defence, I think it's a very classy thing to say(provided he means nothing by it), coz to say anything else would be to belittle Madrid. Which along with Milan is one of football's great institutions.
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That's exactly the point. everybody knows how moral he is. he just feels he should somehow pay back all these love and respect from Madrid! so he comes out and says 'I'm flattered by Madrid interest... Real is a great club (which is a fact)' etc...
He cannot come out and say 'I'll never leave Milan, I'm never gonna play for Real or I don't like playing for Real' etc.
But why? because:
1. It'd be disrespect towards them.
2. He's a very religious guy. These kind of people never talk about future with certainty. He cannot guarantee that he'll always stay at Milan because you never know what tomorrow brings... especially after that freaking pool accident... I hope you know what I mean.
3. It's not all up to him. maybe one day Milan decided to sell him to Real, for economic reasons. what should he do then?

I think If I were Kaka, I would approach the situation exactly as he did.

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he always ends it up ambiguosly

That's your misunderstanding. He's not ambiguous, he's reasonable.
That's how I interpret his words... maybe I'm wrong!

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Hmm...I'd think oldie or veteran is a better choice of words. Don't mean to patronize, but u asked. wink.gif

Ohhh... that's right. 'veteran'... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 16 2007, 08:36 PM

Well...I agree with all u said. But remember the part where u said 'I interpret his words'?

That's what's scary. We interpreted Sheva's words wrong once...don't want to repeat the same mistake. So people would rather he came out and said it, than leave it to interpretation.

Personally I'm surprisingly not worried. If Kaka screws us and leaves, Silvio will be so pissed, he's gonna probably buy Messi and Pato out of sheer spite and then rub it in Real's face.

Hell next time we meet Real I'm banking on a 5-0 repeat.

So no worries. I love Kaka, but I love Milan more. king.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 16 2007, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2007, 05:45 PM)
And I want Kaka + the desire to play for Milan + not constant Real Madrid dreams. Since I ain't got that I can wave goodbye to Ricky!
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I'm certain that it is his desire to play for Milan, and as already stated I don't think Ricky made any serious comment suggesting he might or wants to leave us, so....
Ricky is not a stupid person, he knows he can't leave us like that. Especially considering what he said before. He didn't do it last summer, and he won't do it this summer after he won the CL with us! Plus, Silvio and Galliani always said they won't allow any otehr star to leave the club like Sheva did.


P.S. Of course, nothing is 100% certain...

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jun 16 2007, 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 16 2007, 11:06 PM)
Well...I agree with all u said. But remember the part where u said 'I interpret his words'?

That's what's scary. We interpreted Sheva's words wrong once...don't want to repeat the same mistake. So people would rather he came out and said it, than leave it to interpretation.

Personally I'm surprisingly not worried. If Kaka screws us and leaves, Silvio will be so pissed, he's gonna probably buy Messi and Pato out of sheer spite and then rub it in Real's face.

Hell next time we meet Real I'm banking on a 5-0 repeat.

So no worries. I love Kaka, but I love Milan more. king.gif
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I'm not worried either. because this is Milan... Milan alway carries on at high. Champions like Sheva and Kaka come and go. here'll surely be another Kakas and Shevas (not so sure about Maldini)... It won't be the end of the world for me if he left for Madrid. Cause he'll always be my number one, wherever he goes. king.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Jun 16 2007, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 16 2007, 03:49 AM)
Oh..and and...we get first option on all under 20 talents Madrid purchase. And Madrid pays Ronaldo's food bills for the next 3 seasons. And Silvio buys us Quaresma and R10 to patch things up.
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Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 16 2007, 11:52 PM

It seems to me that we all have to accept the reality right now - that Kaka want`s to stay with us. But aslo, the possibility of a future transfer to Real.

All these things...Sheva at Chelski, or Kaka been linked with Madrid...well, I see them like real relationships. Ševčenko had a wonderfull marriage with Milan which brought him two very important trophies. But then he got charmed away by a much younger girl (Chelsea). Maybe he`d realize his mistake and come back. I think sooner or later he`d be at least try to come back. It depends then which kind off wife Milan is...

Same goes for Kaka, but he is younger so let`s say - Milan is his fiancee, but honestly, do we (men) ever burn all our bridges to some other beautiful girls down just because we are momentarily in love? I mean, Kaka isn`t stupid. He knows right now everything is more then great. But he also is aware that he is only 25, and many things can happen to the club in about 3-4 years (many, many things,...I don`t won`t to be morbid or something like that so I just leave it up to you guys..). cool.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 17 2007, 01:27 AM

I'm sorry, I must have accidentally visited the marriage advice forum.

Posted by: mchanna Jun 17 2007, 01:40 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 16 2007, 11:52 PM)
It seems to me that we all have to accept the reality right now - that Kaka want`s to stay with us. But aslo, the possibility of a future transfer to Real.

All these things...Sheva at Chelski, or Kaka been linked with Madrid...well, I see them like real relationships. Ševčenko had a wonderfull marriage with Milan which brought him two very important trophies. But then he got charmed away by a much younger girl (Chelsea). Maybe he`d realize his mistake and come back. I think sooner or later he`d be at least try to come back. It depends then which kind off wife Milan is...

Same goes for Kaka, but he is younger so let`s say - Milan is his fiancee, but honestly, do we (men) ever burn all our bridges to some other beautiful girls down just because we are momentarily in love? I mean, Kaka isn`t stupid. He knows right now everything is more then great. But he also is aware that he is only 25, and many things can happen to the club in about 3-4 years (many, many things,...I don`t won`t to be morbid or something like that so I just leave it up to you guys..).  cool.gif
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right... when you see it like that:

Shevchenko was my (milan's) husband, and after 7 years marriage he got a bit bored with the daily life (getting trophies), so he decided to divorce me (milan), and married a moneygrabber - secretarylike girl (whose name was Chelsea). After a (short) while my exhusband (sheva) notices how plastic Chelsea is. He already married her though, slept with her, and all the things, now he regrets the farce his marriage with Chelsea is, so he wants to come back to me.

Would I take him back?

//about the topic:

no chance RM will get Kaka in the soon future!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 17 2007, 03:07 AM

He was "married" to his "first love", and we took him away, remember that. wink.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 17 2007, 06:22 AM

^^^Naah kurt, that was what you'd call a high school crush. Sheva and Kiev just went to prom together. tongue.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 17 2007, 08:40 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 17 2007, 06:22 AM)
^^^Naah kurt, that was what you'd call a high school crush. Sheva and Kiev just went to prom together. tongue.gif
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More and more you`re getting "in" the game... wink.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 17 2007, 10:14 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 17 2007, 05:22 AM)
^^^Naah kurt, that was what you'd call a high school crush. Sheva and Kiev just went to prom together. tongue.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

This boy's a genius. cool.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 17 2007, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 16 2007, 08:57 PM)
I don't wanna be rude at all,  smile.gif  but may I ask who gave you that idea?  dry.gif  No really... What do you base your idea on?!..
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I'm not certain of course... but I feel he sees Milan as a stepping stone... and I don't like that! Of course there is desire to play for Milan otherwise he would be gone already.

It's just that Madrid keep going for him. And that is what he allows to happen... and his comments are delusional. It's not like when Abramovic talked to Sheva cause those two seem to get along well, playing golf together and stuff, doing their English teacher or whatever they do together... Abramovic is the godfather of his second son too. Now, don't tell me Kaka has anything in common with that pr!ck that is Ramon Calderon. The guy's just an @sshole and a complete idiot!

Ricky could and should have taken this pressure of Milan already! Just for a while and just for the team to be reassured.

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 17 2007, 02:21 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 17 2007, 01:45 PM)
I'm not certain of course... but I feel he sees Milan as a stepping stone... and I don't like that! Of course there is desire to play for Milan otherwise he would be gone already.

It's just that Madrid keep going for him. And that is what he allows to happen... and his comments are delusional. It's not like when Abramovic talked to Sheva cause those two seem to get along well, playing golf together and stuff, doing their English teacher or whatever they do together... Abramovic is the godfather of his second son too. Now, don't tell me Kaka has anything in common with that pr!ck that is Ramon Calderon. The guy's just an @sshole and a complete idiot!

Ricky could and should have taken this pressure of Milan already! Just for a while and just for the team to be reassured.
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Well I think he uses Madrids ongoing interest to increase his current wage at Milan...

Posted by: redbabies Jun 17 2007, 03:40 PM

Kaká Snubs 12 Million A Year Salary

Reports in Italian daily sports paper Gazzetta dello Sport (Sports Gazette) are claiming that Real Madrid have made a startling offer to the AC Milan and Brazil star but the man himself has turned down a veritable fortune…

The Gazzetta dello Sport pointed to a telephone call with ex-Real Madrid number 8 Pedja Mijatovic in which the Brazilian thanked the player-turned-exec for his offer but repeated that he wants to stay at AC Milan rather than make the much-rumoured move to Madrid next season.

This supposed Merengue offer almost doubles existing salaries of some of the most coveted and expensive players on the planet and would convert the AC Milan number 22 into the best paid footballer in history, but it appears that not all that glitters is gold to Kaká.

The 25 year-old was the epicentre of a recent meeting between mover-and-shaker Franco Baldini (on behalf of Real Madrid) and Kaká’s father (and representative) Bosco Izecson Pereira Leite, something that Galliani didn’t like but was forced to accept it.

"We know everything about that meeting because Kaká’s father promptly informed us of it", explained the Milan man before stressing that the player wasn’t for sale. The fruitless meeting apparently led to the follow-up phone call from Mijatovic pleading Kaká to tell Milan that wants to make the move with the added carrot of 60 million Euros over the next five years.

Kaká apparently – we have no recording to back up the Gazzetta claims – replied that "I am very honoured by the Real proposal but I am good at Milan". The refusal is seen by some as the last straw and tip Real Madrid to make a swoop for the long-overdue Zidane replacement elsewhere…although others are betting everything on a final offensive from the White House…

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source: http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=330054

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END OF THREAD!

END OF TALKS ABOUT "KAKA TO REAL"!


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Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 17 2007, 04:05 PM

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Kaka ignores Real millions 


Kaka has rejected Real Madrid’s offer to double his wages and earned the title of ‘Best in the world’ from Pele.

Ramon Calderon has repeatedly announced his intention of bringing the Brazilian to Spain, but Milan have been just as adamant that he is going nowhere.

This week both clubs confirmed that Real representatives met with Kaka’s father – who acts as his agent – but that it was only to officially turn down the proposal of £8m per season.

That is double what he currently earns at the San Siro, although the Rossoneri will improve his contract this summer to pay £4.3m until 2012.

It is also reported that the new deal to keep him in Italy will include the signing of younger brother Digao – currently playing in Serie B with Rimini – and a firm attempt to bring good friend Andriy Shevchenko back to Milan.

Failing that, then Ronaldinho is the next player down on the list of transfer candidates.

Kaka was the top scorer with 10 goals in this season’s Champions League and lifting the trophy in Athens makes him the runaway favourite to win the Ballon d’Or.

Now he has also received the seal of approval from his hero, Brazilian legend Pele.

“Cristiano Ronaldo is without doubt the best player in England, as everyone recognised this year, but that’s a long way off being the best in the world,” said ‘O Rey’ at a charity event in Angola.

“Kaka, on the other hand, is a player with qualities that make him better than Cristiano Ronaldo and that will allow him to be among the greatest of all time.”


Football Italia

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 17 2007, 04:06 PM

So this answers it for everyone wink.gif

If Kaka wanted to move to Madrid .. It should have been now. But he rejected a 12M/year contract to stay with Milan.

I believe he has answered everyone, by his desire to stay at Milan. king.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 17 2007, 05:54 PM

My apologies Ricky for doubting you...blame it on the happy Greek. tongue.gif j/k

Till 2012 then!! Who knows we might even want to sell him then...tongue.gif I'm a bit of a sadist sometimes.

Posted by: misha Jun 17 2007, 05:55 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 17 2007, 04:21 PM)
Well I think he uses Madrids ongoing interest to increase his current wage at Milan...
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I don't think that is the problem. If he wants more money all he should do is ask. Silvio won't say 'no' to him.

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"I am very honoured by the Real proposal but I am good at Milan". The refusal is seen by some as the last straw and tip Real Madrid to make a swoop for the long-overdue Zidane replacement elsewhere

Let's see if that would make them finally drop the whole thing.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 17 2007, 06:09 PM

Kaka aside, I wonder where they'll go next. Real's rep has really taken a beating lately. But still with their wage package and history almost everyone from B-Class Clubs (Newcastle level and below) will be glad to switch...

Don't know about the next Zidane though...it's not like he's Dalai Lama to pop up every generation.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 17 2007, 06:21 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 17 2007, 06:09 PM)
Kaka aside, I wonder where they'll go next. Real's rep has really taken a beating lately. But still with their wage package and history almost everyone from B-Class Clubs (Newcastle level and below) will be glad to switch...

Don't know about the next Zidane though...it's not like he's Dalai Lama to pop up every generation.
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Ibrahimovic? Adriano? De Rossi? Joaquin? Robben? Van der Vaart? Daniel Alves?

There are many top-players that they can buy this Summer with more or less 100M to spend.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 17 2007, 06:25 PM

Robben? No De Rossi? No Zlatan? No

Alves...nope...they have too many RBs. Van der Vaart? Nedved thinks he's comin to Juve. Adriano? Ok..this is a possibility.

But the next Zidane?? None of these people can remotely make the kind of impact u'd expect from a player who is meant to be the next Zizou.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 17 2007, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 17 2007, 06:21 PM)
Ibrahimovic? Adriano? De Rossi? Joaquin? Robben? Van der Vaart? Daniel Alves?

There are many top-players that they can buy this Summer with more or less 100M to spend.
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Ibra and Joaquin wont move this summer...
Robben also..

They need a AM, or better someone who can be a fantasista. Not many of them left..

Posted by: misha Jun 17 2007, 06:27 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 17 2007, 08:21 PM)
Ibrahimovic? Adriano? De Rossi? Joaquin? Robben? Van der Vaart? Daniel Alves?

There are many top-players that they can buy this Summer with more or less 100M to spend.
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Adriano biggrin.gif . I can see him in the white next year. He's exactly what Real likes. Big player who will sell shirts but in decline and they don't really need him.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 17 2007, 06:30 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 17 2007, 06:27 PM)
Adriano  biggrin.gif . I can see him in the white next year. He's exactly what Real likes. Big player who will sell shirts but in decline and they don't really need him.
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Adriano + RvN = total faliure - they can`t play together...

Posted by: Portikins Jun 17 2007, 07:02 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 17 2007, 06:30 PM)
Adriano + RvN = total faliure - they can`t play together...
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You never know.

Adriano has talent. Just needs motivation. A new club, a new country (new discos too biggrin.gif ) could do it.
But I agree it's dificult to see a Adriano + Ruud partnership.

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Van der Vaart? Nedved thinks he's comin to Juve.


Van der Vaart's family have spanish roots and he said he'd only leave Hamburg for Real (to Bild some weeks ago).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 17 2007, 10:50 PM

Don't just put the whole Kaka' thing to one side.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4996270.stm

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He added: "I've never played in Spain and never will. This is my last contract."

Henry said Arsenal's performance in the 2-1 defeat to Barcelona had been key to his decision to commit his future to the club.

"But I think with my heart and my heart told me to stay."

This is Henry this time last year. Remembering he's been there 8 years now, so he has a real connection with the club.

One disappointing or average season changes things drastically. What if we don't perform well next year, Madrid re-show their interest in Kaka', he may want out next time.

He's here for next season for sure, that's as far as it goes. Then we'll have to go through this next season.

Posted by: mchanna Jun 17 2007, 10:54 PM

Money doesnt matter the world to him!!

KAKAKAKAKA wub.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 17 2007, 10:57 PM

It has nothing to do with money, and neither will Henry's decision to leave.

We're not going to win something every year, when we have a disappointing season, Madrid will definetly go for him. He may not be so eager to re-sign with us after a bad year, that is when he shows his loyalty. It's easy to stay at a team that's just won the European Cup. wink.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 17 2007, 11:03 PM

We already had two bad season before this one and Madrid was on his tail at that time too... do not forget he signed his last contract when we didn't even know which league we'll be playing in!

I don't think he'll leave because of a bad season or two, if he ever leaves it will be because of his dream or ambition... He's said himself that teams move on cycles and this Milan team is close to it's ending it's cycle while Madrid seems to be getting on a new one...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 17 2007, 11:07 PM

With that theory, he'll be gone soon enough. sad.gif

I'm not sure about him, he acts like he wants to stay, but I'm not sure if it's what he really wants. Well only time will tell, at least we've got another season with him gracing the San Siro. cool.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 18 2007, 12:32 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 01:07 AM)
With that theory, he'll be gone soon enough.  sad.gif

I'm not sure about him, he acts like he wants to stay, but I'm not sure if it's what he really wants. Well only time will tell, at least we've got another season with him gracing the San Siro.  cool.gif
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What is up with all this "Kaka is leaving.." hehe .. Isn't there something else to talk about, like solving world hunger tongue.gif

Kaka already turned down a 12M Euro/season contract`from Madrid wink.gif Do you think Madrid can offer more ?! huh.gif I doubt it, I have yet to see a player (atm) with such a contract, neither has it happened before. Therefor, I would conclude that he is staying, because he is at ease in Milan.

Don't forget, he has Maldini and Costacurta hovering over his concience and the fact that Shevchenko failed after moving away from Milan, gives him something to think about rolleyes.gif

Then you have Ronaldo who has the worst relationship with the Madrid managment; bet you he has already explained to Kaka about his 'personal experience' with Madrid.

Then you have Bronzetti .. Who has reiterated today (or yesterday) that Kaka is staying at Milan and that Silvio and co. will keep him. Cuz Madrid are leaning on false hope. ... I mean, a 12M/year contract turned down ohmy.gif I bet you that is a clear message from Kaka to all the fans cool.gif

p.s. Kaka aint leaving for at least 2 or 3 years .. Then who knows, we might be in Armagedon rolleyes.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jun 18 2007, 12:39 AM

It's not very pleasing to see everybody suspects Milan's best player...



That's exactly what I wanted to hear:

"We already had two bad season before this one and Madrid was on his tail at that time too... do not forget he signed his last contract when we didn't even know which league we'll be playing in!"

Posted by: misha Jun 27 2007, 03:28 PM

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Madrid To Offer Emerson And Baptista In Kaka Deal?

An cash plus player deal involving three Brazilians is the latest plan Real Madrid seem to have devised in order to land Kaka.

With Barcelona having signed Thierry Henry, the pressure is growing on Real Madrid, and in particular president Ramon Calderon, to respond with a star signing.

He has yet to sign any of the stars he promised during his election campaign last summer, and needs to come good on at least one following the Frenchman's move to the Camp Nou.

With Capello likely to leave the club, it will be even more important to sign a star to help tide over any hiccups.

Contrary to recent claims, Real Madrid are not willing to dish out 80 million euros for one player. However, that does not mean thay have given up on Kaka.

According to reports in Spain, the Merengue president has devised an offer that he believes might just be too good for Milan to refuse. It involves Milan target Emerson, forward Julio Baptista, and a cool 50 million.

Madrid are determined to sign Kaka at any cost, but will keep the 80m cash offer as a last resort.

Kaka, as earlier reports have already indicated, will earn 12 million per season. Such is the difference between Italy and Spain that it will still be a bargain for Los Merengues, as they estimate that the income thanks to the player will be between 15 and 20 million.

goal.com

Posted by: dst Jun 27 2007, 03:52 PM

^^^

HA HA HA !!!!

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Try Gago + Ruud + 60m and then try to sh_t the f@ck up suckers!!

Ricky's nickname doesn't sound so bad now, does it?? rolleyes.gif



They want to give us the Beast... laugh.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 27 2007, 04:01 PM

OOOOOh, nooo....here they come again...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 28 2007, 04:53 PM

This is just getting silly. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 1 2007, 09:02 AM

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KAKÁ PIDE A BERLUSCONI QUE LE DEJE IR AL MADRID

El soñado fichaje de Kaká por el Real Madrid sigue quemando etapas que permiten vislumbrar un final feliz. Kaká había estado remiso hasta la fecha, dado su carácter introvertido y su poca pasión por la confrontación, a plantarle cara a ese mando bicéfalo que maneja todos los hilos en el Milán (Berlusconi & Galliani). Se limitaba a enviar mensajes amorosos sobre un hipotético futuro blanco a través de los medios de comunicación.

Pero el crack del Milán forzó hace dos semanas un encuentro que puede variar radicalmente el curso de los acontecimientos. Según pudo saber AS, Kaká se vio personalmente con Silvio Berlusconi en el despacho profesional del dueño del Milán en la primera quincena de junio, días antes de irse el jugador de vacaciones a Nueva York.

Ruego.
Dicha reunión sirvió para que por primera vez Berlusconi escuchase de boca de su joya más preciada la expresión que más daño le podía hacer: "Presidente, lo he ganado todo con el Milán y he dado todo por este club en los años que llevo aquí. Pero ahora me llama el Real Madrid y me hace ilusión ese reto. Decida usted, por favor. Sólo le pido que al menos les escuche...".

Kaká le tiene un respeto reverencial a Berlusconi y por eso optó por un primer sondeo que no sonase a una declaración en rebeldía, sino más bien un ruego del 'hijo' a su padre deportivo. Pero al menos Kaká cumplió su objetivo, porque el magnate del actual campeón de Europa se puso muy nervioso y desde entonces ha radicalizado su discurso para hablar del asunto. Ayer, sin necesidad de ir más lejos...

Berlusconi.
El dueño del Milán concedió una entrevista a los compañeros de La Gazzetta dello Sport, en la que se mostraba firme y visiblemente molesto al referirse a la posible marcha de Kaká al Bernabéu: "Esta historia nos está cansando. Kaká no se va y se lo deben meter bien en la cabeza".

Mijatovic maneja el asunto con calma. Sabe que el verano es largo y que el fichaje de Kaká será el culebrón que nos tenga en vilo hasta el cierre del mercado de agosto. Pero cuenta con el aval de la voluntad del crack, a la espera de que al regreso de los entrenamientos del Milán (20 de julio) muestre una actitud más firme y convincente que obligue a Galliani a sentarse a negociar con los hombres fuertes de la planta noble del Bernabéu.

Pedja sabe que si finalmente logra contratar a Kaká nadie más dudará de su capacidad como director deportivo. Además, hay 80 millones de euros en caja. Un arma letal...

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Kaka/pide/Berlusconi/le/deje/ir/Madrid/dasftb/20070701dasdaiftb_29/Tes/

As quoting Kaka asking Silvio to leave: "I have won everything with Milan and did my best for the club, but Madrid's challenge excites me, and I ask from you at least to listen to their offer"

rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif They are far beyond pathetic.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 1 2007, 09:13 AM

This is far beyond every decent behaviour. It is obvious by now that their tactic is to exhaust us and Kaka with does fake quotes and pictures so that at the end they could make it as their advantage,...

I cant stand them,... realmad.gif

Why th f*** are we even thinking of negotiating over Emerson and Cassano with them? Why do we allways play the oldfashioned chivalrous game,..

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 1 2007, 09:20 AM

rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 1 2007, 09:26 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 1 2007, 11:13 AM)
It is obvious by now that their tactic is to exhaust us and Kaka with does fake quotes and pictures so that at the end they could make it as their advantage,...
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They did the same sh!t last year:

http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2785&hl= rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 1 2007, 11:31 AM

I think it's Kaka' and Milan fault too. Why don't we just renew to shut'em up?

Posted by: dst Jul 1 2007, 12:27 PM

I'm (almost) sure Ricky would never do that!

But they are getting more and more ridiculous... utterly pathetic! puke.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 1 2007, 12:29 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 1 2007, 11:27 AM)
I'm (almost) sure Ricky would never do that!

But they are getting more and more ridiculous... utterly pathetic! puke.gif
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It really is.

Tomorrow they'll have him posing with a Real shirt, saying they've signed him. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 1 2007, 12:58 PM

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Mijatovic On Kaká

"It's not impossible because nothing is impossible, but we can't plan the future of Real Madrid around Kaka because getting him out of [Italy] is difficult."

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=340616


Adidas has really hit him! rolleyes.gif But he's not getting Ricky out of here... cool.gif

Posted by: fresh_prince7 Jul 1 2007, 01:05 PM

Kaka pleads with AC Milan to "listen to" Real Madrid offer
tribalfooball.com - July 01, 2007

Kaka has asked AC Milan president Silvio Berlusconi to allow him to join Real Madrid, it has been revealed.
AS says Kaka met with Berlusconi at the Milan supremo's plush offices at the beginning of June - before he left for his summer break in New York.

The meeting was the first time that Kaka had expressed a wish to leave Milan in front Berlusconi, with the Brazilian reportedly saying: "President, I have won everything with Milan and have given everything for this club in the years that I have been here.

"But now Real Madrid calls me and that challenge does excite me. Please decide. I only ask you that you listen to them ..."

Meanwhile, Real sports director Pedja Mijatovic sees the capture of Kaka as a personal mission. Mijatovic knows that if he can land the midfield ace, he will silence the snipers who have questioned his work in the market in the last 12 months.


Heres the english version of bullsh*t. Beyond pathetic, why would he want to leave when we have everything to compete for next season. Real seriously need to shut the f*ck up.

Posted by: han2503 Jul 1 2007, 11:09 PM

QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Jul 1 2007, 12:05 PM)
"President, I have won everything with Milan and have given everything for this club in the years that I have been here.

"But now Real Madrid calls me and that challenge does excite me. Please decide. I only ask you that you listen to them ..."
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This bit sounds so fake that you can't help but think that they copied it off some cheasy romance noval laugh.gif

They are getting really pethethic now, with the fake pictures and fake quotes rolleyes.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Jul 2 2007, 12:11 AM

these people are a disgrace to football. they should be shot! mad.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 2 2007, 12:14 AM

They're burning with jealousy, Let's let 'em burn well...

Posted by: Warchant Jul 2 2007, 04:42 AM

that's gotta be the lowest a newspaper can go

absolutely amazing

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jul 2 2007, 06:58 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 1 2007, 05:09 PM)
This bit sounds so fake that you can't help but think that they copied it off some cheasy romance noval  laugh.gif

They are getting really pethethic now, with the fake pictures and fake quotes  rolleyes.gif
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i think we've just invented a new term, just combine the two (and oddly enough you can't spell really with real) :"realthetic"= the highest point of patheticism

Posted by: Bluesummers Jul 2 2007, 07:27 AM

I know its fake and all for sure, but heres my question.


Can we if possible take legal action against this newspaper for false and misleading articles stating things that have never occurred?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 2 2007, 11:30 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 2 2007, 06:27 AM)
I know its fake and all for sure, but heres my question.
Can we if possible take legal action against this newspaper for false and misleading articles stating things that have never occurred?
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I'd have thought so.

If not, we should announce the signing of Nistelrooy tomorrow to really wind them up. tongue.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 2 2007, 12:16 PM

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Angry Milan Will Not Respond To AS

The Rossoneri do not want to continue being involved in the Kaka stories being published by the Spanish newspaper 'AS'.

The war between Milan and AS continues as the Rossoneri have taken a stand against the Spanish newspaper and will not continue responding to the 'invented' stories by AS.

In fact, on Sunday, AS published a story where it stated that Kaka has demanded a move to Madrid, something which the Italian giants categorically denied.

In the meantime, Milan have published an announcement on their official website.

"AC Milan announces that from today onwards, they will not respond to the lies published by the daily Spanish newspaper 'AS' with regards to the unreal transfer of Kaka to Real Madrid."

However, this will unlikely stop AS from publishing further stories on this transfer as the Merengues will continue to try to convince the newly crowned European Champions to let their star player go.


http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=341467

Posted by: dst Jul 2 2007, 12:35 PM

Nice, we shall not let them drag us down to their level! smile.gif

Posted by: misha Jul 21 2007, 04:57 PM

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Question Of The Day: Kakà For €104m, The Daftest Yet?

Real Madrid are preparing to offer a deal worth €104m to join them from AC Milan next summer, according to an outlandish report in Italy.

After missing out on the Brazilian star this summer, the story states that los Merengues will put forward a proposal that the player could not refuse.

An eight-year contract will be laid on the table by Madrid that will see Kaká earn €13m-per-year for eight seasons at the Bernabéu.

If such an outrageous bid is made then it will be the most expensive transfer in football history.

This year has seen some far-fetched reports stretch the imagination, but by predicting events in 12 months time appears to be a new angle.

Madrid president, Ramón Calderón, included Kaká in his election campaign last year as one of three players he would sign, but he has yet to deliver.

Milan have dug their heels in and refused to even talk about the transfer, leaving the Spanish champions without a star signing so far this summer.

While an approach for Cesc Fàbregas fell flat, the link to FC Barcelona's Andrés Iniesta was denied by both the Blaugrana and Madrid.

Now it's next summer rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Jul 21 2007, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 21 2007, 10:57 AM)
Now it's next summer rolleyes.gif
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since he's value keeps going up we should wait 5 years then sell him for 300m biggrin.gif yess they can have them then cool.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jul 29 2007, 02:48 PM

QUOTE


Non poteva mancare la domanda sulle promesse elettorali non mantenute, Robben, Cesc e Kakà. "Arriveranno tutti entro la fine del mio terzo anno di mandato: potremmo ipotizzare che Robben arrivi subito, Cesc tra un anno e Kakà il seguente".


In a interview yesterday Ramon Calderon said about the players he promised to Real fans last year:
"All of them will be Real Madrid players until the end of my 3rd year as Madrid president.
"We can say: Robben can arrive now, Cesc Fabregas in 1 year, and Kaka' in the next one."


So this mean that we'll have Kaka' until the end of 2008/09. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW, more rumours about a 100M/euros offer by Madrid today.

Posted by: mchanna Jul 29 2007, 03:09 PM

100m euros?

the madridisti told me that they are sure 90m euros is the limit laugh.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jul 29 2007, 03:22 PM

Ok signing no players is one thing, get rid of Kaka wave goodbye to Milan as you know it rolleyes.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 29 2007, 03:45 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 29 2007, 05:18 PM)
In a interview yesterday Ramon Calderon said about the players he promised to Real fans last year:
"All of them will be Real Madrid players until the end of my 3rd year as Madrid president.
"We can say: Robben can arrive now, Cesc Fabregas in 1 year, and Kaka' in the next one."


So this mean that we'll have Kaka' until the end of 2008/09.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

BTW, more rumours about a 100M/euros offer by Madrid today.
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Disgusting abject **** mad.gif puke.gif

Posted by: rhy_A4 Jul 29 2007, 07:58 PM

go to hell Calderon .....doesnt he look like dracuala by the way

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