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Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 25 2018, 07:20 PM

All January transfer talk here smile.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 25 2018, 09:22 PM

Can we buy a whole new team?

Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2018, 01:16 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 25 2018, 09:22 PM) *
Can we buy a whole new team?

I'd settle for a whole new midfield. Our attackers and defenders are good. Especially one Caldara and Romagnoli start playing regularly next to each other.

But that midfield has always been our kryptonite. It's the most importabt area on the pitch and we've continually left it to crumble year after year

Maybe leo can dip into the January window to bring in a proper creative player but I'm not holding my breath

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2018, 07:07 PM

If only we could have signed Rabiot. It would have been a massive step forward.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2018, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 26 2018, 07:07 PM) *
If only we could have signed Rabiot. It would have been a massive step forward.

We'll see what happens. A lot of sources saying Leo is trying to convince him for next summer, which would be huge for us as h'd come in for free.

Not going to be easy as Juve and Barca also want him

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2018, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 26 2018, 08:30 PM) *
We'll see what happens. A lot of sources saying Leo is trying to convince him for next summer, which would be huge for us as h'd come in for free.

Not going to be easy as Juve and Barca also want him


We needed solutions now, not next summer.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2018, 09:24 PM

What happened to Fabregas? For a short term solution he'd have been great. He keeps warming the bench at Chelsea, especially now that they got Kovacic, too.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 26 2018, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 26 2018, 10:24 PM) *
What happened to Fabregas? For a short term solution he'd have been great. He keeps warming the bench at Chelsea, especially now that they got Kovacic, too.

We think bayako is more creative and was needed from Chelsea

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 26 2018, 11:01 PM

I really think Bakayoko was a colossal miscalculation.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 27 2018, 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 26 2018, 11:01 PM) *
I really think Bakayoko was a colossal miscalculation.


He was signed as a sub for Kessie, but given how badly he performed against Napoli, I'd rather play Bertolacci instead.

Also, Rodriguez and his agent met with Leonardo and Maldini today, meeting that lasted two hours. There are rumors about a PSG offer of 30M.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/milan/milan-rodriguez-in-bilico-summit-con-il-suo-agente-c-e-sotto-il-psg-160-_1233259-201802a.shtml

That would be a blessing. 30M for this dud? Yes please!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 27 2018, 10:38 PM

But in a situation when we lack creative options wasn't it better we targeted more offensive or creative players rather then backup players? Anyway, I still think that Gattuso plans on using them both; I believe he has something like the old Ambro-Rino partnership in mid, Rino being Bakayoko and Ambro being Kessie. Not that any of them resemble but well...

I'd be all in for shipping off Rodriguez. For that kind of money we could buy a midfielder and a backup fullback. Or try and use both Calabria and Conti.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2018, 02:05 PM

Looks like Rodriguez has declined PSG and Bayern offers and will stay with us. dry.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 28 2018, 03:43 PM

Sadly.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2018, 06:11 PM

Martial being mentioned on the various outlets. We tried to sign him in January, but ManU asked 40M, we offered 23M. We'll try in January as his contract ends in 2019 and he doesn't seem to be interested in renewing.

He would be a dream signing.


Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 29 2018, 08:21 AM

Again, not what we need. But he could be a nice addition.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 29 2018, 10:31 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2018, 08:21 AM) *
Again, not what we need. But he could be a nice addition.


Picky, aren't you? He's a world class talent.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 29 2018, 08:17 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 28 2018, 06:11 PM) *
Martial being mentioned on the various outlets. We tried to sign him in January, but ManU asked 40M, we offered 23M. We'll try in January as his contract ends in 2019 and he doesn't seem to be interested in renewing.

He would be a dream signing.

He'd be great.

But I think if Mourinho were to get sacked he;d want to stay there. So I wouldn't hold me breath

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2018, 08:21 AM) *
Again, not what we need. But he could be a nice addition.

Well, he can either player as a striker or on that LW. He'd be a great pick up if we can get him on the cheap, but it's a long shot

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 29 2018, 10:47 PM

He’s just a very expansive potential who had so far one good season. I don’t get why everyone is so worked up about him. What did Martial achieve so far?

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 30 2018, 01:23 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2018, 10:47 PM) *
He’s just a very expansive potential who had so far one good season. I don’t get why everyone is so worked up about him. What did Martial achieve so far?


He’s too young to have achieved anything yet. His selling point is his talent. Have you ever seen him play? The kid is great.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Aug 30 2018, 05:07 AM

new rumours suggest that he will be singing extension with Man U

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 30 2018, 09:13 AM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Aug 30 2018, 05:07 AM) *
new rumours suggest that he will be singing extension with Man U


Depends if Mourinho stays or not.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 30 2018, 08:42 PM

Looking likely that Mourinho will barely last the season at this point, so Martial will probably stay

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 30 2018, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2018, 03:23 AM) *
He’s too young to have achieved anything yet. His selling point is his talent. Have you ever seen him play? The kid is great.

He has 22 years and is a potential. He has a miserable scoring record in ManUtd and is nowadays barely used despite the hefty price paid for him. He has speed and technique but lacks precision and intelligence. I think he's mostly overrated. Don't get me wrong, he'd still be a good option and an upgrade, but I think he's not what we need.

And yes, I've seen him play. Many times.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 30 2018, 09:31 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2018, 08:48 PM) *
He has 22 years and is a potential. He has a miserable scoring record in ManUtd and is nowadays barely used despite the hefty price paid for him. He has speed and technique but lacks precision and intelligence. I think he's mostly overrated. Don't get me wrong, he'd still be a good option and an upgrade, but I think he's not what we need.

And yes, I've seen him play. Many times.


So, if Leonardo gave you the possibility, who would you buy as LFW for us?

Posted by: han2503 Aug 31 2018, 10:10 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2018, 09:31 PM) *
So, if Leonardo gave you the possibility, who would you buy as LFW for us?

I think that depends a lot on whether we will be sticking with the 4-3-3 for the foreseeable future.

And honestly, I don't think we have much room to be picky here

Martial would be huge, but I'd have been more than happy with someone like Depay for example


But again, I'd concentrate on bringing in an LCM before a LW, especially if 4-3-3 is going to be our go to formation

Posted by: Forza Milan! Sep 5 2018, 03:49 PM

Looks like B&G are in negotiations to buy S.S. Monza (that is, the other team from Milano). Maybe we can sell them Monto and a couple of others ...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 5 2018, 05:14 PM

If this happens really I can see some old players and legends returning to B&G, from player roles to managerial posts. Could be interesting to watch.

Posted by: Forza Milan! Sep 5 2018, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 5 2018, 06:14 PM) *
If this happens really I can see some old players and legends returning to B&G, from player roles to managerial posts. Could be interesting to watch.

Agreed. Though I do not believe we are at risk for either Leo or Malidini. Or, for that matter, Gattuso (as long as he remains our coach).

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 5 2018, 06:31 PM

Agreed.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 5 2018, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Sep 5 2018, 06:07 PM) *
Agreed. Though I do not believe we are at risk for either Leo or Malidini. Or, for that matter, Gattuso (as long as he remains our coach).


Who would want to join Monza over Milan?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 5 2018, 10:08 PM

Well...

Posted by: Forza Milan! Sep 6 2018, 11:39 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 5 2018, 11:06 PM) *
Who would want to join Monza over Milan?

One can only hope ... Monto, Abate, ...

(BTW, looks like the deal may close by the end of the month, with the ambition of bringing the club to Serie A)

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 6 2018, 02:55 PM

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Sep 6 2018, 11:39 AM) *
One can only hope ... Monto, Abate, ...


In other words, Milan rejects.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 7 2018, 08:57 PM

Milan rejects and old faces. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pato (if there is nor grudge with Berlusca), Robinho and a few others taking some roles. It would really be fun IMO.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 8 2018, 12:07 PM

Continuous rumors about an interest in Fabregas for January. The player's contract expires in 2019.

Would be a great addition, the kind of midfielder we've been missing.

Another player whose contract expires in 2019 is Rabbiot.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 8 2018, 12:47 PM

That's Rabiot. And yes, we've been linked with him as well. Hopefully Leo can help in this case.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 12 2018, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 8 2018, 12:07 PM) *
Continuous rumors about an interest in Fabregas for January. The player's contract expires in 2019.

Would be a great addition, the kind of midfielder we've been missing.

Another player whose contract expires in 2019 is Rabbiot.

What's happening with Cesc these days anyway?

He rarely ever plays at Chelsea, has been left out of the Spanish team for a while now as well. If we do go for him, we need to be cautious about what we offer him

We can't have a situation where he's earning huge wages and on a long contract if he's not able to contribute due to decline

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 8 2018, 12:47 PM) *
That's Rabiot. And yes, we've been linked with him as well. Hopefully Leo can help in this case.

Rabiot will be very difficult. Juve and Barca want him so we would need to off him something really great to get ahead of those clubs

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 20 2018, 04:06 PM

Seems like Gazidis to Milan is a done deal

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 20 2018, 05:53 PM

Hard to say what impact this would have. Certainly the role of leo and maldini will get limited amd our current ceo/president was not very actively involved in day to day management

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2018, 04:41 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 20 2018, 04:06 PM) *
Seems like Gazidis to Milan is a done deal

Yep, confirmed by Arsenal

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 20 2018, 05:53 PM) *
Hard to say what impact this would have. Certainly the role of leo and maldini will get limited amd our current ceo/president was not very actively involved in day to day management

Well that's because Galliani monopolised all 3 roles and meshed them up so he could control everything. Which is why things got so badly mismanaged

The CEO's role has nothing to do with the transfer market in terms or player selection. That's why we have a Sporting Director now. Galliani used to carry out both roles in the past.

Gazidis will still have input in terms of how the budget is spent and how much that will be but he won't run the transfer market as that is not part of the CEO's job description

Posted by: han2503 Oct 6 2018, 02:32 PM

Lot's of talk about Zlatan coming on loan in January in a deal similar t what we did with Beckham back in the day. What do you think?

I personally think it would be a genius move, and hopefully pushes Rino away from the 4-3-3

Some talk about Fabregas and Lucas Paqueta as well.

The general consensus from the media is that we'll sign 3 players in the winter.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 6 2018, 05:21 PM

I think the priority should be Barella. This kid will become great, we can't let the possibility slip our hands.

Fabregas would be great, obviously, and hell yeah, I'd accept Ibra with arms wide open.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 7 2018, 01:36 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 6 2018, 05:21 PM) *
I think the priority should be Barella. This kid will become great, we can't let the possibility slip our hands.

Fabregas would be great, obviously, and hell yeah, I'd accept Ibra with arms wide open.

Saw him mentioned. But I can't see us signing him in January. I agree that he'd be a massive get and one we shouldn't let slip by. He reminds me so much of Verratti in his style. I really hope Leo goes for him

Cesc and Ibra would add much needed experience and creativity into this team. We'd make a step up in quality with just those 2

Also, what's your opinion on Ramsey? He's being mentioned as a possible free signing next summer, especially with the Gazidis link now. The problem is that he'll want massive wages not to mention big agent fees.

But he'd be a tremendous signings. He'd be the perfect fit instead of Bonaventura in our midfield imo

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 7 2018, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 7 2018, 01:36 PM) *
Saw him mentioned. But I can't see us signing him in January. I agree that he'd be a massive get and one we shouldn't let slip by. He reminds me so much of Verratti in his style. I really hope Leo goes for him

Cesc and Ibra would add much needed experience and creativity into this team. We'd make a step up in quality with just those 2

Also, what's your opinion on Ramsey? He's being mentioned as a possible free signing next summer, especially with the Gazidis link now. The problem is that he'll want massive wages not to mention big agent fees.

But he'd be a tremendous signings. He'd be the perfect fit instead of Bonaventura in our midfield imo


Ramsey would be a good addition, no doubt. But I would also look for a LFW.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 7 2018, 05:04 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 7 2018, 04:02 PM) *
Ramsey would be a good addition, no doubt. But I would also look for a LFW.

But if we get Ibra, do you think that would be necessary?

It think if we go that way, Rino could explore different options to the 4-3-3

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 7 2018, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 7 2018, 05:04 PM) *
But if we get Ibra, do you think that would be necessary?

It think if we go that way, Rino could explore different options to the 4-3-3


If we get Ibra then it definitely will be 4-2-4 with him and Higuain up front.

But if we don't, then I think a wide left forward is necessary. I just think Hakan is being wasted so wide.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 10 2018, 11:17 AM

Looks like a done deal for Paquetà in January. 35M + bonuses.

Is this guy any good? Cos for that money we could have signed Barella. Also, he’s a trequartsita, and we already have Hakan.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 10 2018, 02:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2018, 11:17 AM) *
Looks like a done deal for Paquetà in January. 35M + bonuses.

Is this guy any good? Cos for that money we could have signed Barella. Also, he’s a trequartsita, and we already have Hakan.

I read he mainly plays as a side midfielder and he's one of the highest rated players in the Brazilian league atm

We'll see. PSG and Barca were also following him closely as well apparently

Posted by: han2503 Oct 10 2018, 03:16 PM

Now @DiMarzio confirms Lucas Paqueta to Milan is a done deal for around €35m + bonuses.

Paqueta had a €50M release clause in his contract but Leonardo exploited the excellent relationship with Flamengo and the player's agent to negotiate the price down. PSG was very far in the negotiations for the player but were beaten by Milan in the end. [@DiMarzio]


It's basically confirmed

And I think the idea for him is to take Bona's place in the near future

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 10 2018, 06:35 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 10 2018, 03:16 PM) *
And I think the idea for him is to take Bona's place in the near future


Good.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 10 2018, 06:59 PM

I found a couple of resources for anyone who wants to go over them about him

https://soundcloud.com/world-football-index/lucas-paqueta-scout-report

http://www.squawka.com/en/news/who-is-lucas-paqueta-the-brazilian-wonderkid-milan-want-to-make-the-next-kaka/1063085#TqHu58ivpOWvsLyy.97

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kooNKyCR35c

For now I'll choose to trust that Leo wouldn't throw 35m at anyone, he must have followed him enough to think he's worth that kind of money

I think this is an encouraging sign, not only for this season but our near future, which is in very good hands.

The Ibra links also seem to be persisting, let's see what happens there. He'd be such an instant boost to the team. We'd still need one other right footed winger this January in order to be covered though, so let's see what Lo can do in that regard as well

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 10 2018, 08:04 PM

35 m although is a lot but lets hope he is good and fits into the team well

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 10 2018, 08:47 PM

Saw some images on YouTube. Not sure what to make of him yet. I'm usually reserved when it comes to players who overuse tricks and dribbles, especially from the Brazilian league.

We'll have to wait and see. Everyone speaks greatly about him, and I trust Leo. Also, position-wise, he seems like the perfect Bona replacement.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 10 2018, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 10 2018, 08:47 PM) *
Saw some images on YouTube. Not sure what to make of him yet. I'm usually reserved when it comes to players who overuse tricks and dribbles, especially from the Brazilian league.

We'll have to wait and see. Everyone speaks greatly about him, and I trust Leo. Also, position-wise, he seems like the perfect Bona replacement.

Well, he won't walk into the team that's for sure. Bona has been doing well this season compared to last. He'll need to work hard to take away that spot from Bona.

And I agree about the tricks and flicks, those will have to go away as soon as he starts playing in Italy and he'll learn that quickly

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 10 2018, 09:52 PM

We'll see.

Posted by: William405 Oct 10 2018, 10:15 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 10 2018, 11:52 PM) *
We'll see.

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Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 12 2018, 05:26 AM

a lot about Barella being a Milan derby next transfer window

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 12 2018, 11:33 AM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 12 2018, 05:26 AM) *
a lot about Barella being a Milan derby next transfer window


Please yes!

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 15 2018, 08:54 PM

What do you guys think of Leandro Paredes? He's being linked with us recently for January.

I like him a lot, would be a perfect replacement for Biglia. Although I'm still hoping for Barella.

Anyway, it's a good thing we're finally paying attention to the midfield.

Posted by: William405 Oct 15 2018, 09:42 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 15 2018, 10:54 PM) *
What do you guys think of Leandro Paredes? He's being linked with us recently for January.

I like him a lot, would be a perfect replacement for Biglia. Although I'm still hoping for Barella.

Anyway, it's a good thing we're finally paying attention to the midfield.


I never watched him play. Though, he does seem like an upgrade. What type of player is he?

I still think we would need a big name in midfield. But, him and Paqueta would be very very positive moves for our midfield. Also, I read that Bakayoko will be sent back to Chelsea as soon as possible. Good news too.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 19 2018, 10:08 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 15 2018, 08:54 PM) *
What do you guys think of Leandro Paredes? He's being linked with us recently for January.

I like him a lot, would be a perfect replacement for Biglia. Although I'm still hoping for Barella.

Anyway, it's a good thing we're finally paying attention to the midfield.

Problem is that Biglia right now is crucial to our defensive game, his positioning and ball winning ability are irreplaceable to us atm. His passing sometimes does leave a bit to be desired as we know he has the ability to dictate and keep the ball moving as this was his main role at Lazio. So far he hasn't really lived up to those performances, but he's showing a lot of improvement in recent games

Paredes is a good player no doubt, and he'd be a nice addition to have, but I can't see him taking Biglia's place, maybe if we played with a double pivot he'd be a great shoe-in for the first 11 but for now, I don't think he'd take that position from Biglia as he doesn't offer the same defensive solidity as Biglia does imo

As for Barella, the longer it goes on, the higher his price tag will be. And I don't see him as a traditional regista, he's much more versatile, imo, he's like a Verratti in that regard, aggressive, quick, very good with short quick passes, has a good shot etc. He'd be a dream signing, but there's a lot of competition with 50m being the quoted price...

In my mind, he'd take over the position from Bona or Kessie on either side of Biglia, not be a replacement for him

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 20 2018, 12:03 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 19 2018, 10:08 PM) *
Problem is that Biglia right now is crucial to our defensive game, his positioning and ball winning ability are irreplaceable to us atm.


I'll stop you right there.

Irreplaceable? I think you overrate Biglia a lot. Sure, tactically he's a smart player, but he is far from being irreplaceable. In modern football you can't just be good at something and hope to be a crucial asset. It's why there are no one-dimensional players like Gattuso and Inzaghi anymore.

A holding midfielder has to be good not only at holding his position and keeping the midfield tight, but also to dictate play, to play smart balls, to makes assists and goals etc. Biglia contributes very little when we have the ball. He's very limited in that aspect, and that makes him very replaceable in my eyes.

Posted by: X-Offender Oct 20 2018, 12:06 AM

As for Barella, he can play any position in midfield. Since we have (apparently) signed Paqueta and I expect Gattuso to play him as LCM, an eventual signing of Barella would make much more sense having him in the holding mid role. The fact we're also after Paredes makes me think that we want to find a Biglia replacement for next season.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 20 2018, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2018, 12:03 AM) *
I'll stop you right there.

Irreplaceable? I think you overrate Biglia a lot. Sure, tactically he's a smart player, but he is far from being irreplaceable. In modern football you can't just be good at something and hope to be a crucial asset. It's why there are no one-dimensional players like Gattuso and Inzaghi anymore.

A holding midfielder has to be good not only at holding his position and keeping the midfield tight, but also to dictate play, to play smart balls, to makes assists and goals etc. Biglia contributes very little when we have the ball. He's very limited in that aspect, and that makes him very replaceable in my eyes.

Woah, I think you misunderstood me there. I'm not saying Biglia is irreplaceable because he's an elite player who cannot be replaced by an outside source. But right now in this squad he is and that is something that is common knowledge for every Milan fan. And if Paredes is our target Biglia would still be irreplaceable as I don't think Paredes is good enough to be the jump in quality we need.

Don't get me wrong, he's good, but he's not as positionally good as Biglia and with Kessie's undisciplined style you absolutely need someone who is capable of sitting and positioning himself to be a cover for the defence. I actually said that his passing game is not up to par, but his replacement has to be someone who's good in the defensive phase as well as a very good passer and I don't think Paredes ticks both those boxes

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 20 2018, 12:06 AM) *
As for Barella, he can play any position in midfield. Since we have (apparently) signed Paqueta and I expect Gattuso to play him as LCM, an eventual signing of Barella would make much more sense having him in the holding mid role. The fact we're also after Paredes makes me think that we want to find a Biglia replacement for next season.

True, but you have to look at the kind of midfield we're building

Paqueta--Barella--Kessie looks good on paper but it certainly has weaknesses, especially defensive ones.

We'll have to see what Paqueta is like, but he strikes me as a more attack minded mid, so we'd have to see how all these elements could fit in there. For me Kessie has to be more disciplined in his positioning for us to have someone like Barella and Paqueta playing next to him.

Posted by: William405 Nov 4 2018, 12:07 PM

https://www.football-italia.net/130235/ibrahimovic-wants-longer-milan-deal

I like the idea of him retiring with us. smile.gif

He would be a great assest just with his leadership and mentality, forget about everything else. He is not asking a lot for the salary too.

Posted by: Forza Milan! Nov 5 2018, 11:46 PM

https://www.football-italia.net/130306/%E2%80%A8wenger-close-milan

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 6 2018, 04:22 AM

I don't get why this wenger thing is suddenly being reported. Although everone is quoting the particular French paper

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 6 2018, 07:58 PM

It's probably just BS.

Here's an interesting question. If you could choose only one between Fabregas, Paredes e Barella in January, who would you go for?

Posted by: maldini03 Nov 7 2018, 02:15 PM

For me I would want Barella the guy is amazing but I think that we need a player like Paredes more

Posted by: han2503 Nov 7 2018, 09:01 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 6 2018, 07:58 PM) *
It's probably just BS.

Here's an interesting question. If you could choose only one between Fabregas, Paredes e Barella in January, who would you go for?

Barella, he's for now and the future

I love Cesc, I've been a huge fan since his Arsenal days, but if it's a choice of him or Barella than it's a no brainer at this point

I'm very indifferent about Paredes tbh, I thik he's a good player but not someone that will give us a huge boost imo

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 17 2018, 06:19 PM

Current Milan president spoke of Galliani stating "“Galliani is a real Rossoneri fan and a great expert of football. If he speaks then I listen to him."

So I guess he is clueless yeah? tongue.gif

Posted by: han2503 Nov 23 2018, 05:24 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 17 2018, 06:19 PM) *
Current Milan president spoke of Galliani stating "“Galliani is a real Rossoneri fan and a great expert of football. If he speaks then I listen to him."

So I guess he is clueless yeah? tongue.gif

That's one man's opinion. Doesn't actually make it correct. Galliani was a genius of football... a decade ago, now he's just one huge bad decision

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 23 2018, 08:22 PM

Didn't know Scaroni's opinion was absolute fact. Good to know.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 29 2018, 03:17 PM

Seems like we are very close to reaching an agreement with Chelsea for Fabregas in January.

32 years old in May, bench player at Chelsea for the past year and a half, but still this would be a very exciting signing. I've wanted Fabregas since his days at Arsenal, and I think he's still got it to be an important player for us. With him and Paqueta our midfield would improve immensely.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 2 2018, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 29 2018, 03:17 PM) *
Seems like we are very close to reaching an agreement with Chelsea for Fabregas in January.

32 years old in May, bench player at Chelsea for the past year and a half, but still this would be a very exciting signing. I've wanted Fabregas since his days at Arsenal, and I think he's still got it to be an important player for us. With him and Paqueta our midfield would improve immensely.

Where did you read that we were close x-off? I know we've been linked but nothing I've read has said that we're close.

Wuld be a huge signing if true though

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 2 2018, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Dec 2 2018, 08:20 PM) *
Where did you read that we were close x-off? I know we've been linked but nothing I've read has said that we're close.

Wuld be a huge signing if true though


Mediaset a few days ago, reporting rumors from the English tabloids. Chelsea want 12m though, so we have to negotiate that.

I’m sure we’ll sign him. As I’m sure Ibra will come as well. There are no reasons for it not to happen.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 8 2018, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 23 2018, 08:24 PM) *
That's one man's opinion. Doesn't actually make it correct. Galliani was a genius of football... a decade ago, now he's just one huge bad decision


Not any ordinary man han, that's the #1 man at Milan, it's president.

Posted by: han2503 Dec 8 2018, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 2 2018, 08:39 PM) *
Mediaset a few days ago, reporting rumors from the English tabloids. Chelsea want 12m though, so we have to negotiate that.

I’m sure we’ll sign him. As I’m sure Ibra will come as well. There are no reasons for it not to happen.

Let's hope so. They'd be a huge boost, and not just in the footballing sense. And with many of the players returning from injury after the new year this could be what cements our position in the top 4 of the table

Posted by: William405 Dec 9 2018, 01:56 PM

Let's get hyped up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAKyG6U4CrE

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 18 2018, 10:27 PM

In the end, neither Ibra nor Cesc will come. We'll stick with Mauri and Higuain as AM.

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 21 2018, 10:33 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 18 2018, 10:27 PM) *
In the end, neither Ibra nor Cesc will come. We'll stick with Mauri and Higuain as AM.


Ibra won't come, that's decided. Fabregas is very likely.

Posted by: William405 Dec 22 2018, 02:01 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 22 2018, 12:33 AM) *
Ibra won't come, that's decided. Fabregas is very likely.


Yes? Just like Ibra was very likely? XD

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 22 2018, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 22 2018, 02:01 PM) *
Yes? Just like Ibra was very likely? XD


Believe what you please.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 23 2018, 12:26 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 22 2018, 06:58 PM) *
Believe what you please.

Well you were the one who stated tha Ibra to Milan has no reason not to happen. So we should go easy...”

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 23 2018, 12:59 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Dec 23 2018, 12:26 AM) *
Well you were the one who stated tha Ibra to Milan has no reason not to happen. So we should go easy...”


I didn't say he was 100% coming. Just like most likely doesn't mean for sure. But if you read what the press writes every day, and I do, then Fabregas is our most realistic target at the moment.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 24 2018, 12:37 AM

Perhaps, but does are just speculations. Ibra was also realistic at a certain time.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Dec 30 2018, 05:33 PM

Milan are loaning Muriel?

I hope that means Milan go by a two forward system, having Higuaín play alongside Muriel or Cutrone (rotating, or one as sub for the other, whatever works best).

This 4-3-3 has got no chance to succeed. Having only Cutrone and Higuaín as real striker options, and only wingers that are better options for more of a midfield role, is simply a hopeless case. Having the most creative player as the right wing forward, who barely knows how to finish, and a high profile striker playing on an island. It looks so inspiration less.

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 30 2018, 05:42 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 30 2018, 05:33 PM) *
Milan are loaning Muriel?

I hope that means Milan go by a two forward system, having Higuaín play alongside Muriel or Cutrone (rotating, or one as sub for the other, whatever works best).

This 4-3-3 has got no chance to succeed. Having only Cutrone and Higuaín as real striker options, and only wingers that are better options for more of a midfield role, is simply a hopeless case. Having the most creative player as the right wing forward, who barely knows how to finish, and a high profile striker playing on an island. It looks so inspiration less.


I disagree. I think 4-3-3 is the best solution for this team, but for it to work we need a right-footed left winger with more scoring qualities than creative ones like Suso. Hakan not only has been disappointing, but he's not even a winger to begin with.


Posted by: CHU-LIP Dec 30 2018, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 30 2018, 07:42 PM) *
I disagree. I think 4-3-3 is the best solution for this team, but for it to work we need a right-footed left winger with more scoring qualities than creative ones like Suso. Hakan not only has been disappointing, but he's not even a winger to begin with.

How many good fits do Milan currently got for the wide forward positions then? Milan needs to buy for sure two quality wide forwards for it to work. Otherwise, I think Milan is better off playing with two real forwards.

Despite Castellijo his good goal, and Suso his well dribbling and making things happen, they are not what you need as wide forwards. Having then Higuaín as only real goalscorer. It is no wonder Milan rarely scores a goal.

Like you say, Hakan is not even a winger to begin with. Milan plays with wingers (or wide forwards) who are much better fit as a midfielder. With this current squad, I would not opt for 4-3-3 as there's a lack of real quality wingers. Or yes, exactly what you say: a goalscoring winger, instead of a creative Suso. Put more and real creativity and playmaking in the midfield, and have got more goalscoring powers on the wings, and then I can agree 4-3-3 makes for a good formation. Seems you wish for the same, but right now with the current squad it does not make 4-3-3 a good formation in my opinion. I much rather see both Cutrone and Higuaín on the pitch than only Higuaín with another midfielder put as winger.

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 30 2018, 11:07 PM

Suso plays best in the 4-3-3. It's his ideal formation. Unlike Hakan, he's not a midfielder. A 4-3-3 doesn't necessarily require two goal-scoring wingers. Rather, having a goal-scoring winger and a dribbler/assistman is more balanced and would work much better.

But if you wanna play Suso, a left winger, and two forwards, we're basically playing 4-2-4. Not only it's unbalanced, but where would Paqueta fit?

With the big hope of signing Fabregas, my wish would be to sign a LFW in January, and play like this:

Donnarumma
Conti - Musacchio - Romagnoli - Rodriguez
Kessie - Fabregas - Paqueta
Suso - Higuain - LFW


Btw, apparently we had reached an agreement with Sevilla for Muriel on loan, but he chose Fiorentina over us. And I'm kinda glad. I don't think Muriel is the solution for us right now. We need someone good.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 31 2018, 11:18 AM

Paolo Maldini concurred it, unless Milan finishes in CL place, Milan won't be able to make signings. That includes Higuin and Bakayoko.

Further, Milan will have to sell before they buy.

Any movement in this winter shall be a loan.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 31 2018, 11:25 AM

We dodged a bullet with Muriel, but I doubt there are better players available on loan. I here Fenerbahce also want Fabregas and are negotiating with Chelsea.

Posted by: X-Offender Dec 31 2018, 12:47 PM

We dodged a bullet with Muriel but we might get hit by a canon ball. Rumors about us being interested in Gabbiadini.

What is wrong with these people? Do we want another Borini? I would much prefer staying as we are than signing someone as rubbish as Gabbiadini, we has scored only one goal for Southampton and hasn't started a game since 5 December. In other words, after a Sunderland reject, now a Southampton reject. FFS Leo!!! mad.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 1 2019, 11:30 PM

Well, Fabregas is off to Monaco apparently, so I guess we can consider this mercato (which hasn't even started yet) an utter failure.

Perhaps we were better off with Mirabelli...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jan 2 2019, 05:10 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 2 2019, 12:30 AM) *
Well, Fabregas is off to Monaco apparently, so I guess we can consider this mercato (which hasn't even started yet) an utter failure.

Perhaps we were better off with Mirabelli...

Monaco are 19th currently in the league.. i beelive this is due to us trying to sign him for free only dry.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 2 2019, 03:38 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 2 2019, 05:10 AM) *
Monaco are 19th currently in the league.. i beelive this is due to us trying to sign him for free only dry.gif


I think he's going there for free since he rescinded with Chelsea.

Honestly, if he's going there only because he's friend Henry is manager, then maybe we're better off without him. I mean, who in their right frame of mind would choose Monaco over Milan? Good luck playing in Ligue 2 next year, chump.

Although, what I last read was that our agreement with Fabregas was that, if by the end of January he had not found a club and we had not found a midfielder, then we'd sign him. Which makes even less sense.

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 2 2019, 03:47 PM

Anyway, latest names we're being linked with:

Stefano Sensi (CM, Sassuolo). The guy seems like a good player, plus he's young. But Sassuolo won't let him go for less than 25M

Carrasco (LFW, DL Yifang). We all know him. Really good and proven player, would be a welcome addition.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 3 2019, 05:03 PM

We don't need a young midfielder, we need an experienced creator.

And well... I told you so regarding Fabregas. It was all very foreseeable.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 5 2019, 10:20 AM

So no buying only loans. Any buying will depend on CL qualification at the end of the season or if Milan sells a player another may be brought in.

If Milan fails to qualify, players will be sold; not to be replaced by another, but to cover the losses.


Let's not forget post FFP Milan is not 'that attractive' club we all fell in love with. Those days are gone. Even a wealthy benefactor can not restore the issue Milan faces. The issue is simple, low revenue coupled with high costs render losses. What Milan needs more than anything is a stadium that enhances it's income and qualify for CL. That should enhance the value of the club and allow it more space to operate, because as of now the club is operating in the red.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 5 2019, 06:53 PM

That's a grim perspective, especially since I'm almost certain that we won't make it to the CL.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 7 2019, 07:49 PM

This is the truth Pippo, FFP is restricting clubs that are not generating revenues enough to cover high transfer fees, salaries and related expenses.

Milan's revenue had been on a decline since 2004/5 ... Coincidentally EPL, La Liga, and Bundesliga started getting higher revenues than Serie A clubs since then. So player fees (in the form of out bidding Milan) kept Milan out of attracting top players.

Silvio cashed out of the club because of that declining trend. Milan got Li who went on a frenzy and was penalized by FFP. Milan now have Elliott who are under watch by FFP regulators.

What Milan needs is a consistent run of good results, re-enter CL while maintaining a team that is 'FFP compliant'. All this dreaming of the next BIG thing happening at Milan is not realistic. We all were caught off guard by our expectations, while the reality of the matter is Milan just can not afford it.

Case in point UEFA confiscated Milan's Europa League money because of FFP breaches.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 7 2019, 07:52 PM

But Boban's right you know, something has to change.

https://www.ilsussidiario.net/news/calcio-e-altri-sport/2019/1/4/fifa-vs-uefa-boban-fair-play-finanziario-va-cambiato-zorro-attacca-blocca-crescita-club-milan-e-inter/1831284/

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 7 2019, 08:22 PM

Until FFP laws are amended, Milan are forced to adhere to it. This is what the new Milan directors are telling the fans:

QUOTE
Milan director Paolo Maldini gives the condition for signing Gonzalo Higuain and Tiémoué Bakayoko outright - “the Champions League is binding”.

Both players are on loan with the Rossoneri, with options to buy from Juventus and Chelsea respectively.

However, the club is operating under Financial Fair Play restrictions, so without a top four finish it’s unlikely they can afford a permanent deal.

“We’re absolutely convinced we can get fourth place,” Maldini told reporters at Milanello.

“We’re not happy with how things have gone this month, of course, when we’ve had a lot of injuries and therefore great difficulty in terms of numbers.

“Despite that we expected more, and [Coach Gennaro] Gattuso knows that too. We need to change the attitude during the game, we can’t lie down and we can’t look for sixth.

"Bakayoko and Higuain? We’ve been clear with the players: the Champions League is binding.”


QUOTE
Leonardo tells Milan fans not to expect big signings in January - “not because we don’t want to, but because we can’t”.

The Rossoneri are operating under Financial Fair Play controls, so there won’t be big investment in Gennaro Gattuso’s squad next month.

“We signed [Lucas] Paquetà in October and got a letter in which they [UEFA] disputed that kind of investment,” technical director Leonardo revealed, speaking to various reporters at Milanello.

“So far we haven’t received our UEFA prize money. There won’t be big signings. We need to work on opportunities.

“The January market is complicated, so we need to be alert to opportunities.

“We have 30 players in the squad right now, so there will definitely have to be some exits. We won’t buy, not because we don’t want to, but because we can’t.

“We spent almost zero in the summer between exits and incomings. The only point of increase was [Gonzalo] Higuain. Higuain was the only real investment, the rest were all exchanges.

“Those who stay here will stay because they want to stay, otherwise goodbye and thank you. We’ll get to where we want to get, that’s what Milan is, with or without us.”

Posted by: William405 Jan 12 2019, 10:10 AM

Can someone explain to me how we can buy Paquetta for 35million, but can't afford to give a contract to Fabregas? Hence, losing the competition to a club which is in the last standings of the french division.

I cannot wrap my head around it.

Posted by: William405 Jan 12 2019, 10:11 AM

Also, I don't like Leonardo. He's a traitor.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Jan 12 2019, 02:54 PM

Not sure Milan should want to buy Higuaín for all that money anyways...

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 12 2019, 05:41 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 12 2019, 02:54 PM) *
Not sure Milan should want to buy Higuaín for all that money anyways...


Higuain's too a good a striker to say no to, given our situation.

Anyway, we're in deep sh*t. We have money but we can't spend it. FFP is driving clubs like us to the ground. We don't have enough revenues to cover for all the crazy player fees circulating in today's football. Hence why wealthy clubs like Barca, Madrid, Juventus, Bayern etc. are dominating Europe.

Unless we build a new stadium, for starters, we're going nowhere.

Posted by: William405 Jan 13 2019, 06:09 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 12 2019, 07:41 PM) *
Higuain's too a good a striker to say no to, given our situation.

Anyway, we're in deep sh*t. We have money but we can't spend it. FFP is driving clubs like us to the ground. We don't have enough revenues to cover for all the crazy player fees circulating in today's football. Hence why wealthy clubs like Barca, Madrid, Juventus, Bayern etc. are dominating Europe.

Unless we build a new stadium, for starters, we're going nowhere.


I think Higuain will leave us. Let's see. It is really a shame. We take one step foward, and two steps back because we are limited with FFP.

I'm the most dissapointed with Ibra/Fabregas transfers because they would have been practically free, and with reasonable wages. Nevermind, the obvious boost they would have provided to our team. Two big players even if they are past their prime. Instead, we get Paquetta for 35million paying the highest transfer fee for a brazilian coming to Italy. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with Paquetta. But, if we don't get to champions leauge, we might need to sell him very soon if the opportunity arises. We needed players who can give us an immediate success so that our chances for CL qualification increase.

I hope I'm not too pessimistic.


Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 13 2019, 10:58 PM

Paqueta means little to nothing, he's just a kid. Not getting Ibra and Cesc, keeping Hakan and definitively alienating Higuain thanks to Leonardo - will cost us dearly. Another 6th place is in the makings, at best.

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 13 2019, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 13 2019, 10:58 PM) *
Paqueta means little to nothing, he's just a kid. Not getting Ibra and Cesc, keeping Hakan and definitively alienating Higuain thanks to Leonardo - will cost us dearly. Another 6th place is in the makings, at best.


Keeping Hakan will cost us? The hell are you saying? And why is it Leonardo's fault that Higuain wants to leave? I think you're making some wild assumptions here.

Not getting Cesc, yes, that was a huge mistake. Even if it meant paying 10M to Chelsea we still should have gone for it.

Posted by: William405 Jan 14 2019, 09:16 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 14 2019, 12:58 AM) *
Paqueta means little to nothing, he's just a kid. Not getting Ibra and Cesc, keeping Hakan and definitively alienating Higuain thanks to Leonardo - will cost us dearly. Another 6th place is in the makings, at best.


Agreed. I guess there is someone who sees it the same way I do.

Posted by: William405 Jan 14 2019, 09:17 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 14 2019, 01:06 AM) *
Keeping Hakan will cost us? The hell are you saying? And why is it Leonardo's fault that Higuain wants to leave? I think you're making some wild assumptions here.

Not getting Cesc, yes, that was a huge mistake. Even if it meant paying 10M to Chelsea we still should have gone for it.


Leonardo had some negative things to say about Higuain, hence Pipo's statement.

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 14 2019, 01:56 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 14 2019, 09:17 AM) *
Leonardo had some negative things to say about Higuain, hence Pipo's statement.


What did he say?

Posted by: William405 Jan 14 2019, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 14 2019, 03:56 PM) *
What did he say?

https://acmilan.theoffside.com/2019/1/8/18173827/so-its-come-to-this-ac-milans-leonardo-calls-out-gonzalo-higuain-in-a-press-conference

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jan 19 2019, 05:00 AM

So it seems that by Tuesday higuin will leave for Chelsea and his replacement will be Piatek from Genoa who is also costing 40 odd million. How are we paying 40 m for him when we could not spend anything earlier? Is it simply related to out higuin liability settlement I suppose

P.S How good is Piatek btw?

Posted by: William405 Jan 19 2019, 12:49 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 19 2019, 07:00 AM) *
So it seems that by Tuesday higuin will leave for Chelsea and his replacement will be Piatek from Genoa who is also costing 40 odd million. How are we paying 40 m for him when we could not spend anything earlier? Is it simply related to out higuin liability settlement I suppose

P.S How good is Piatek btw?


So, I never watched him play. But, he is top scorer in Serie A behind CR. He certainly has immense potential. It is simply an exchange
The money we were going to pay on Higuain..we will pay on Piatek.

I prefer the move. Higuain is obviously not motivated and happy here.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Jan 19 2019, 01:08 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 19 2019, 02:49 PM) *
So, I never watched him play. But, he is top scorer in Serie A behind CR. He certainly has immense potential. It is simply an exchange
The money we were going to pay on Higuain..we will pay on Piatek.

I prefer the move. Higuain is obviously not motivated and happy here.

Higuaín is struggling here at the age of 31, and is not belly fit, so age can matter a lot for him. It's not working out great, so better go for a 23 year old, much better long term, and could easily be better deal short term as well, looking at how we've been upfront lately.

I am not familair with the 23 year old as well, so I can't say if scouting has done well.

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 19 2019, 05:49 PM

Piatek is your typical poacher from what little I've seen of him. He thrives on service, so I think he will struggle a lot.

It's unbelievable that in this window, which we were supposedly going to use to fill our holes in midfield and attack, we are wasting it on changing strikers. If by the end of January we haven't signed a decent mid and a decent left winger, then we're royally f*cked.

Posted by: maldini03 Jan 20 2019, 02:34 PM

Yeah, I am a little disappointed with the way January has gone, but we are still facing problems with FFP. I think I will withhold judgment until the end of the month. I have a feeling they are going to bring someone else in to make the push for CL.




Posted by: han2503 Jan 20 2019, 03:07 PM

Not getting a winger is what will hold us back this season. I'm p!ssed off about Higuain, but it's not like he was scoring for fun, he hasn't been the same since that Juve game when he missed the penalty

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 20 2019, 05:49 PM

You know who's a player I would have gone after? Duvan Zapata. I've always liked the guy, and this season he's on a rampage. Scored 4 goals today against Frosinone.

Posted by: drucurl Jan 21 2019, 06:10 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 12 2019, 01:41 PM) *
Higuain's too a good a striker to say no to, given our situation.

Anyway, we're in deep sh*t. We have money but we can't spend it. FFP is driving clubs like us to the ground. We don't have enough revenues to cover for all the crazy player fees circulating in today's football. Hence why wealthy clubs like Barca, Madrid, Juventus, Bayern etc. are dominating Europe.

Unless we build a new stadium, for starters, we're going nowhere.

Good old X-Offender graduated.gif
I fear that in Piatek we haven't plugged the gap left by Higuain's departure.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 21 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 20 2019, 07:49 PM) *
You know who's a player I would have gone after? Duvan Zapata. I've always liked the guy, and this season he's on a rampage. Scored 4 goals today against Frosinone.

Inter is after him... We're set to sign Piatek.

Posted by: han2503 Jan 21 2019, 08:21 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Jan 21 2019, 06:10 AM) *
Good old X-Offender graduated.gif
I fear that in Piatek we haven't plugged the gap left by Higuain's departure.

That being said, it's not like Higuain has left a huge gaping wound behind him, he's been missing in most games for a while now, probably since that Juve game, he hasn't been the same. I'd rather have a lesser player who is 100% motivated to play for our shirt than someone who's not happy to play for this club

Posted by: CHU-LIP Jan 22 2019, 02:51 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 21 2019, 10:21 PM) *
That being said, it's not like Higuain has left a huge gaping wound behind him, he's been missing in most games for a while now, probably since that Juve game, he hasn't been the same. I'd rather have a lesser player who is 100% motivated to play for our shirt than someone who's not happy to play for this club

Agreed. If it's not working out with a very expensive 31 year old, moving forward should the way to go.

It doesn't help he doesn't look belly fit either. Then you'll get old very fast.

Posted by: han2503 Jan 22 2019, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 22 2019, 02:51 PM) *
Agreed. If it's not working out with a very expensive 31 year old, moving forward should the way to go.

It doesn't help he doesn't look belly fit either. Then you'll get old very fast.

Meh, I feel like he never really wanted to be here, we were his last resort.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Jan 22 2019, 10:07 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 22 2019, 08:26 PM) *
Meh, I feel like he never really wanted to be here, we were his last resort.

That's sad, for both him and us. Seperation is good. Higuaín project disappointment. His time with us is embarrassing compared to all his previous seasons. That's not without reason.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jan 23 2019, 12:53 AM

Meaning what?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 24 2019, 12:39 PM

Okay so this is why FFP restricts Milan;


QUOTE
Milan revenue growth stagnant


Milan are the top European club with the least growth in revenue over the last 10 years, just 2% compared to Inter’s 66.7%, claim Calcio e Finanza.

The website focusing entirely on the financial aspects of the sport calculated the revenue increases from 2008 to 2018, finding some intriguing results.

During the closing years of Silvio Berlusconi’s reign and during the controversial Yonghong Li period, Milan’s revenue remained practically unchanged.

It went from €209.5m in December 2008 to €213.7m in June 2018, a growth of just 2% with an annual increase of 0.18%.

In comparison, city rivals Inter increased their revenue by 66.7% during the same period, going from €172.9m in 2008 to €288.2m a decade later.

More importantly, the revenue increase spiked after 2017 with the influence of new owners Suning.

Juventus stand out by taking their revenue from €167.5m – less than Milan in 2008 – to €402.3m in 2018, largely boosted by their stadium and extended Champions League runs.

Over the last 10 years, Milan have dropped from eighth in the Brand Finance list with a brand value of approximately £134m to 18th place in 2018 at £226m.


So it isn’t a conspiracy really, whether we have Gazidis, Fassone or Galliani as CEO. Whether we have Singer’s Elliott fund, Li or Berlusconi as owner. Milan’s revenue CAGR of just 2% is indicative of the constraints it has on the transfer market. If anything you guys should lower your expectations even further now and stop considering this club as a top club. It is a ‘historic’ club, but so is Leeds in that sense. Until the club gets a new stadium and a consistant CL run, nothing changes from the current situation.

Posted by: han2503 Jan 25 2019, 05:20 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 24 2019, 12:39 PM) *
Okay so this is why FFP restricts Milan;




So it isn’t a conspiracy really, whether we have Gazidis, Fassone or Galliani as CEO. Whether we have Singer’s Elliott fund, Li or Berlusconi as owner. Milan’s revenue CAGR of just 2% is indicative of the constraints it has on the transfer market. If anything you guys should lower your expectations even further now and stop considering this club as a top club. It is a ‘historic’ club, but so is Leeds in that sense. Until the club gets a new stadium and a consistant CL run, nothing changes from the current situation.

I think we all know that, the problem with Fassone was that he was quoting UEFA astronomical numbers of money coming in from the Chinese market, which at the end of the fiscal year turned out to be lower than even a million and this ended up p!ssing off UEFA more than anything else

I don't think the new management will make miracles, we need to get on the Stadium issue for sure, but with smart management, things can be improved, look at Juve as the example of a club playing in the same league as us who have managed to hit marketing goal we can only dream on today, and this is a club who were in Serie B just over a decade ago and have never had anywhere near the international success that we do

Posted by: X-Offender Jan 25 2019, 11:55 PM

I don't think Napoli's or Roma's revenues are anything to brag about, yet they've been in the top flight of Italian football for years. We just need some smart investments and grow in confidence. Milan is not a 6th place club, FFP or not.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jan 26 2019, 10:12 AM

Any logic behind Kevin Prince move to barca. Also henry sacked by Monaco. I beleive main reason behind cesc move there

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jan 31 2019, 10:17 AM

no winger coming in will be a huge failure of this market

Posted by: han2503 Feb 3 2019, 11:56 AM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jan 31 2019, 10:17 AM) *
no winger coming in will be a huge failure of this market

It is a let down and will no doubt cost us in some way. But Paqueta and Piatek look to be very good moves so far and will probably be crucial to our push for 4th

Posted by: William405 Feb 3 2019, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 3 2019, 01:56 PM) *
It is a let down and will no doubt cost us in some way. But Paqueta and Piatek look to be very good moves so far and will probably be crucial to our push for 4th


True

Apparently, we didn't find someone that will provide the jump in quality. I think our squad is good for 4th place without the injuries etc...

It seems better to wait for the right winger instead of shelling out 20mill for someone who we know won't change the quality of our football.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 3 2019, 08:41 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 3 2019, 05:28 PM) *
True

Apparently, we didn't find someone that will provide the jump in quality. I think our squad is good for 4th place without the injuries etc...

It seems better to wait for the right winger instead of shelling out 20mill for someone who we know won't change the quality of our football.

Yes, that is a good point, but even someone like Deulofeu would have been good. Hakan and Suso are both mostly creative wide players with limited pace. We just need someone who is direct and can beat players with pace and the dynamic of this entire team would change. I still think we should have just shelled out for someone with that kind of profile tbh

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 3 2019, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 3 2019, 08:41 PM) *
Yes, that is a good point, but even someone like Deulofeu would have been good. Hakan and Suso are both mostly creative wide players with limited pace. We just need someone who is direct and can beat players with pace and the dynamic of this entire team would change. I still think we should have just shelled out for someone with that kind of profile tbh


Agreed.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 15 2019, 06:15 PM

A lot depends on CL.

This thread will only be attractive and exciting if Milan cements 4th place, even then there is the qualifiers. Otherwise the club will have to put some players up for sale

Posted by: han2503 May 25 2019, 09:10 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 15 2019, 06:15 PM) *
A lot depends on CL.

This thread will only be attractive and exciting if Milan cements 4th place, even then there is the qualifiers. Otherwise the club will have to put some players up for sale

Just to clarify, there are no qualifiers anymore for the 4th place teams from Italy, England and Spain (not sure if Germany is in there as well)

Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 26 2019, 04:49 PM

I must have missed something... That's great! Cause its a load of rubbish having to play qualifiers. This should definitely bring the quality of the tournament up.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 26 2019, 08:26 PM

Well, this year was the first year to apply the new rules. You are really missing out man...

Posted by: Forza Milan! Jun 13 2019, 08:03 PM

Have not been on this forum for some time ... looks rather "slow" ... and no summer '19 transfer thread.

Would be interested in hearing how everyone feels about recent news :-).

Me, I am mildly hopeful. Would prefer to see a "big name" coach and "big name" signings, but ... let's face it, priority right now should be to fix the financial mess we are in. Constantly losing money (80M this year!) is not going to work for us. Even if Elliott is willing to fund us, we are seriously at risk of being barred from European cups (FFP).

The current strategy appears consistent with the goal of cleaning up finances. Giampaolo may not be the top of excitement, but he appears to have the ability of getting players with promise to actually fulfill their promise, and that's what we need right now. Also, he seems to play an attractive game, which will help.

I would expect a couple of painful sales (Donna and Suso are my guess, hopefully not Crutone), and more Krunic-like signings (players with some potential that have gone under the radar). Maybe we will see one signing that can get us moderately excited (two tops). OTOH, we are getting rid of a number of expensive bench-warmers (Monto, Berto, and even Mauri).

Leo's departure is consistent with the overall strategy (I like Leo but he spends big, and that's not we need right now). I have mixed feelings about Rino's leaving, but I am excited about Maldini and Boban.

As for next year, I see Inter challenging for second or maybe even first place, and Juve and Napoli staying at the top. That means we will have to fight for a CL spot with the likes of Roma, Lazio, Atalanta (and maybe others). Will be interesting ...

Posted by: Danny Jun 14 2019, 04:20 PM

Hi FM, thank you for breaking the silence on here!

I've seen life sentences move faster than MF lately. It's a dying forum sad.gif

I think the issue is there's very little Milan to be excited about now. It's all half-baked ideas and no real plan.

It isn't Milan any more, and may not be for a long time, if ever.

Donna and Suso are welcome to leave, like you I'd keep Cutrone. Only players I actually like these days are Cutrone, Piatek, Reina, maybe Jack and that's really it. And only a few of them are as good as we need for where we need to be.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 14 2019, 04:23 PM

Why not Romagnoli? Calabria? Conti? I think we have a good young batch that needs support. Sure, Milan isn't that great anymore but I still think we have a brand that simply cannot fall into oblivion like Leeds or Forest did. Milan has more history then both mentioned.. and history is still a great value.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 14 2019, 07:13 PM

If history is willing to put on shorts and charge down San Siro Im all for it Pippo tongue.gif

Posted by: Forza Milan! Jun 14 2019, 08:11 PM

Again, I am actually mildly optimistic. Would be very optimistic except recent history has me somewhat spooked.

Much of our problems have been how we have handled finances. B&G went for "have beens" (I can think of a few of those) or "special deals" from "friends" like Preziosi. Good ol' "yellow tie" seemed to get real excited about "parametro zero" players without taking into account that (1) if nobody wants the dude there probably is a reason and (2) the burden of ridiculously high salaries had a massive financial impact, not to mention (3) if the player does not work out ... who will buy him ... and why would he leave when he can make silly money just by warming the bench.

Then we got Fasso and Mira. Actually got really excited about the two, but the big money we spent yielded no results on the field and a massive financial burden (we are struggling to unload flops like Silva). They did a few things right, but overall it just made a bad situation worse.

My hope is that Elliott will start running us like a real business. Reduce salaries, generate money on plusvalenze, and (hopefully) find other sources of revenue (that's why we got Gaddiz, I think). Let's face reality, it will be painful for a few years. Signings like Giampaolo and Krunic are not what we have gotten used to, but they are in line with what appears to be Elliott's strategy, and (more important) I do not think we have a choice.

FWIW:
- We are already deep in trouble for FFP violations, it would do us no good to spend big on players only to see us banned from European competitions. Hence, finances come first.
- We are going to struggle attracting top talent if the best we can do is qualify for EL (only option is to to offer high salaries, which would not help and will only attract the "mercenary type" we have seen in recent times).
- Look at Inter. People made fun of Suning and his "fozza Inda", but he got the financials back in shape, got them out of "FFP trouble", and now they can spend money again (and attract talent).
- Maldini and Boban were big critics in past years ... and they appear to have bought into the new project

Hence my cautious optimism ...

Posted by: Forza Milan! Jun 14 2019, 08:36 PM

Lots of rumors going on. What do you think should be our priorities and targets? My take ...

GK:
- I would love to keep Gigio, but I think he has to go - why? real high salary and good plusvalenza if we act now (at risk of getting less money next year if he does not renew)
- If Gigio goes, we got other options (Reina and Plizzari was quite impressive at the U20 WC). But ... is that enough? And, if not, who would you go for?

Back line:
- We are down to two healthy CBs, so I think we need a couple more. We appear to be linked with Lovren and Manolas (either would bring much needed experience, but neither fits the profile that will satisfy Gadiz / Elliott).
- As I understand it, Giampaolo's style of attack relies on fast wingbacks, and arguably we have gaps in this area as well.

Midfield:
- Needs a a lot of work. We lost Monto, Berto, and Mauri. No no big loss on any of them, but we need starters and decent backups. I am hoping to see at least one reasonably high profile signing in this area.

Attackers:
- Apparently Giampaolo likes to play with two up front. Suso likely to be going (he is asking for 6M salary, and we could use the plusvalenza). Silva not likely to come back (plus he is coming out of two unimpressive seasons). Piatek and Cutrone fit the same profile, and I am not sure we will keep Cutrone just as a sub (so we may sell or loan him). I have seen people argue that our biggest gap is SS.

Thoughts?

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 15 2019, 08:18 PM

Not sure 4-3-1-2 is the way to go. You can't compete today without wingers. They are the essence of dynamic football. For 4-3-1-2 to work you would need an especially fantastic midfield, and two top strikers. We don't have any of that.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 15 2019, 08:23 PM

By the way, what do you guys think of Stefano Sensi? Seems like our main objective now with Bakayoko's departure.

Posted by: Forza Milan! Jun 16 2019, 02:58 AM

Interesting article (http://spielverlagerung.com/2016/05/13/team-analysis-empoli/)

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 16 2019, 09:09 AM

Nothing special IMO.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 16 2019, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 16 2019, 09:09 AM) *
Nothing special IMO.


Yeah, not sold on him either. I also read that we offered 37M to Arsenal for Torreira but they declined.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 20 2019, 09:09 AM

Gazzetta linking us to Schick this morning.

If we're going to play 4-3-1-2, given the names we're being liked with, I'd like us to play like this:

Reina
Conti - Musacchio - Romagnoli - Rui
Krunic - Torreira - Paquetà
Calhanoglu
Schick - Piatek


OUT: Donnarumma, Kessie, Cutrone. Would keep Suso as I still think he's our best player. Though less functional in this kind of formation, he could still play as SS or even AM.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 20 2019, 10:45 AM

Schick is completely overrated. I wouldn't go for him, only if he's for free.

I'd also sell Suso and Kessie as well as Donna. This should balance our books.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 20 2019, 11:37 AM

So, Juve got Sarri. Inter got Conte. Napoli have Anceloti. We got Giampaolo. dry.gif

Posted by: Danny Jun 20 2019, 02:58 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 20 2019, 11:37 AM) *
So, Juve got Sarri. Inter got Conte. Napoli have Anceloti. We got Giampaolo. dry.gif


Didn't even know it was confirmed.

Season is a write off before it starts.

I'll still use MF for the sh*ts giggles and banter but f*ck me this club is dead.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 20 2019, 03:08 PM

He might still very well surprise us. Some view him as a professor of football. I view him as a small-time coach who's managed in the Serie A for more than 10 years but never landed a big club.

Posted by: Danny Jun 20 2019, 07:39 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 20 2019, 03:08 PM) *
He might still very well surprise us. Some view him as a professor of football. I view him as a small-time coach who's managed in the Serie A for more than 10 years but never landed a big club.



Like you said though - Sarri, Conte, Carlo - we get a bargain bin Miha successor biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 20 2019, 09:46 PM

I'd rather go with Giampaolo then with Sarri to be honest.

Posted by: Forza Milan! Jun 21 2019, 04:58 AM

Good to see some life in MF !!!

For those of you disappointed in Giampaolo and some of our signings / prospects. In a way, I am disappointed as well. That said, we are not going to get out of the mess we are in unless we resolve our financial issues. So success in the next few years will be measured primarily by "player value increase" (aka plusvalenze). Results will be secondary, and best we can hope for (right now) is that 4th CL spot.

With that in mind, Giampaolo *may* get us where we need (though, of course, we will have to see). If things work out to plan, they will be thinking about an "upgrade" (in both coach an players) in 2-3 year. If not ... well, we keep sinking lower ...

Posted by: Forza Milan! Jun 21 2019, 05:11 AM

I have seen a few links with Ceballos, especially with the "dynamic duo" (Maldin and Boban) in Madrid. Thoughts?

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Jun 21 2019, 12:27 PM

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 21 2019, 06:11 AM) *
I have seen a few links with Ceballos, especially with the "dynamic duo" (Maldin and Boban) in Madrid. Thoughts?

isnt it like half of Madrid being linked with us. Each paper saying a two different players

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 22 2019, 07:14 PM

New management team and another new beginning.

The team restarts again from the bottom and this will definitely be a long road to the top.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 23 2019, 07:01 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 20 2019, 09:46 PM) *
I'd rather go with Giampaolo then with Sarri to be honest.

A bit late but why?

Sarri imo is by far the better coach. Sad to see him go to Juve, now they'll still bulldoze over the entire league while playing actual good football.

Anyways, opened a summer transfer thread.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 23 2019, 07:37 PM

What does by far mean to you?

I'm very skeptical about Sarri. Yes, he's playing nice football but I don't think it's sexy football what Juve need right now. Like Danny said, he's been a manager for decades, won recently his first big trophy with over 60 years of age. I really don't think he's "that" good and he has a lot to prove. I think the whiners and soreheads at Juventus will soon start a revolt against his rigid tactical outlook.

Posted by: X-Offender Jun 23 2019, 10:25 PM

He made Napoli play some great football. He finished second with 91 points, more than what Juve made this year. And he also got Chelsea 3rd winning them the Europa League.

He's a good coach, far better than Allegri. Juve are certainly stronger with him.

I have faith in Giampaolo for some reason. On paper I would have never signed him, but I'm hoping he'll do well with us.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 24 2019, 12:00 AM

Not impressed. But we'll see.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 24 2019, 09:22 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 23 2019, 07:37 PM) *
What does by far mean to you?

I'm very skeptical about Sarri. Yes, he's playing nice football but I don't think it's sexy football what Juve need right now. Like Danny said, he's been a manager for decades, won recently his first big trophy with over 60 years of age. I really don't think he's "that" good and he has a lot to prove. I think the whiners and soreheads at Juventus will soon start a revolt against his rigid tactical outlook.

I mean he's a far better choice than Giampaolo. That's imo of course.

Do I think him and Juve mesh well? Probably not. Juve are all about winning and have never cared about how it came about, Sarri cares a lot about the quality of football produced. And I disagree about his football, I think his teams play beautiful football, even his Empoli played exciting stuff

I would have loved to have him join us that's for sure

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 23 2019, 10:25 PM) *
He made Napoli play some great football. He finished second with 91 points, more than what Juve made this year. And he also got Chelsea 3rd winning them the Europa League.

He's a good coach, far better than Allegri. Juve are certainly stronger with him.

I have faith in Giampaolo for some reason. On paper I would have never signed him, but I'm hoping he'll do well with us.

Agreed. Although I do think that Juve and Allegri were far more in sync in terms of footballing philosophy

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